CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

[Anonymous]

This is from the press conference from the LTC in Washington.


https://www.bellevuereporter.com/news/life-care-center-of-kirkland-breaks-silence-at-saturday-press-conference/?amp&__twitter_impression=true


“Our experience with this so far has shown that the virus is volatile and unpredictable,” Killian said. “We’ve had patients who, within an hour’s time, show no symptoms to going to acute symptoms and being transferred to the hospital. And we’ve had patients die relatively quickly under those circumstances…We know very little about how fast this may act.”

This goes along with what doctors were saying out of China. (weeks ago)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of countries aren't doing broad testing of anyone who wants a test or has any symptoms of anything at all.

It seems to be a pretty common strategy in many places to only test those with some link to exposure or doc's recommendation based on specific symptom profile.

I know a few countries did very broad drive through testing but that doesn't seem to be the norm.

There has to be a reason why a lot of developed countries aren't just testing anyone who wants a test.

Right. And that country also has had the best success in containing it.

How is the limited testing working out in Europe?

Not going so well I am guessing. We have some people coming in from one of the more affected EU countries for a meeting next week and sent them our precautions--no handshaking, no one who has been in a hotspot country in the last 2 weeks, conference call line for those not meeting criteria, etc.

The person doing arrangements back in the EU country sent back an email in response, which indicates she felt our precautions were very refreshing to hear:

"Many thanks for your precision about the no handshaking policy. Well noted for the conference call line. That is very well thought out and organized.

Thank you for being so sensible."

[Anonymous]

There is no need to be face to face unless you want to have physical contact.

[Anonymous]

Italy now has the second highest case count, having surpassed South Korea today.

Italy: 7,375 cases 366 deaths

South Korea: 7,313 case 50 deaths

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of countries aren't doing broad testing of anyone who wants a test or has any symptoms of anything at all.

It seems to be a pretty common strategy in many places to only test those with some link to exposure or doc's recommendation based on specific symptom profile.

I know a few countries did very broad drive through testing but that doesn't seem to be the norm.

There has to be a reason why a lot of developed countries aren't just testing anyone who wants a test.

Right. And that country also has had the best success in containing it.

How is the limited testing working out in Europe?

Not going so well I am guessing. We have some people coming in from one of the more affected EU countries for a meeting next week and sent them our precautions--no handshaking, no one who has been in a hotspot country in the last 2 weeks, conference call line for those not meeting criteria, etc.

The person doing arrangements back in the EU country sent back an email in response, which indicates she felt our precautions were very refreshing to hear:

"Many thanks for your precision about the no handshaking policy. Well noted for the conference call line. That is very well thought out and organized.

Thank you for being so sensible."

This makes no sense. Why do any of them have to come? Tell them to stay put. I can't believe everybody urging the closing of schools, but won't stop unnecessary travel? You all think you're such big shots that you have to have your meetings. Jus stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Italy now has the second highest case count, having surpassed South Korea today.

Italy: 7,375 cases 366 deaths

South Korea: 7,313 case 50 deaths

What is up with the mortality rate disparity?! It will be very interesting to see how the data rolls out - age, general health, smoking, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When is testing (and therefore, I assume, the number of cases) going to pick up in the US? I've been watching https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

While yes, the total cases per day in the US has been increasing, it's been by very few each day. I'm worried there will be an explosion of cases when doctors everywhere finally have access to tests. Especially since so many people aren't taking this seriously because the "numbers" are so small.

I don’t know the answer to your question, but as you probably know the numbers will also explode at some point because the rate of spread is exponential.

Yes. But they are currently ticking up more slowly than expected the past few days. The rate of increase has actually dropped (the total has gone up obviously), with today on track for an even lower rate of increase and/or no increase at all. The number of cases reported doesn't even seem to capture the increase we'd expect to see at this point, based on the number of cases we have (especially since no big efforts to contain have been made by any level of government).

I would have much more faith in a statement that the rate of increase has slowed if we were actually testing people.

Exactly!! People are literally trying to get tested on doctors orders and they’re getting denied a test.

I’m the one who posted above (the original one quoted + the response that starts with “yes”) and that’s exactly my point. Numbers feel manipulated. There’s no way I buy that the rate of increase has slowed. Very worried for the numbers once there is widespread testing.

You do realize that if they test the whole DMV area and a ton test positive, the death rate drops tons, right?

[Anonymous]

Here's a thought:

You are sick. You might have COVID. Make the personal decision not to spread it. Call if your symptoms worsen and arrange to be seen in a safe way.

If YOU choose to self-isolate because you are sick, you won't spread it to others. You will limit the spread.

Remember the slogan "only YOU can prevent forest fires?"

THAT!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Up to 5 cases now in Maryland....

Because some morons said "I think I'll cruise during an epidemic! I DESERVE it"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is from the press conference from the LTC in Washington.


https://www.bellevuereporter.com/news/life-care-center-of-kirkland-breaks-silence-at-saturday-press-conference/?amp&__twitter_impression=true


“Our experience with this so far has shown that the virus is volatile and unpredictable,” Killian said. “We’ve had patients who, within an hour’s time, show no symptoms to going to acute symptoms and being transferred to the hospital. And we’ve had patients die relatively quickly under those circumstances…We know very little about how fast this may act.”

This goes along with what doctors were saying out of China. (weeks ago)

I'm not saying that we shouldnt be concerned about this , but this isn't that rate for elderly patients, especially when the disease is respiratory related. There is a reasons pneumonia is so dangerous for the elderly. Their system gets compromised and it goes downhill quickly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's a thought:

You are sick. You might have COVID. Make the personal decision not to spread it. Call if your symptoms worsen and arrange to be seen in a safe way.

If YOU choose to self-isolate because you are sick, you won't spread it to others. You will limit the spread.

Remember the slogan "only YOU can prevent forest fires?"

THAT!

Aren't you contagious before you have symptoms?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
When is testing (and therefore, I assume, the number of cases) going to pick up in the US? I've been watching https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

While yes, the total cases per day in the US has been increasing, it's been by very few each day. I'm worried there will be an explosion of cases when doctors everywhere finally have access to tests. Especially since so many people aren't taking this seriously because the "numbers" are so small.


I don’t know the answer to your question, but as you probably know the numbers will also explode at some point because the rate of spread is exponential.


Yes. But they are currently ticking up more slowly than expected the past few days. The rate of increase has actually dropped (the total has gone up obviously), with today on track for an even lower rate of increase and/or no increase at all. The number of cases reported doesn't even seem to capture the increase we'd expect to see at this point, based on the number of cases we have (especially since no big efforts to contain have been made by any level of government).


I would have much more faith in a statement that the rate of increase has slowed if we were actually testing people.


Exactly!! People are literally trying to get tested on doctors orders and they’re getting denied a test.


I’m the one who posted above (the original one quoted + the response that starts with “yes”) and that’s exactly my point. Numbers feel manipulated. There’s no way I buy that the rate of increase has slowed. Very worried for the numbers once there is widespread testing.


You do realize that if they test the whole DMV area and a ton test positive, the death rate drops tons, right?

Yes, and that's a good thing. They need to do widespread testing so that people who are positive will know it and take appropriate distancing steps. That will lower the death rate for sure. People will not be careful if they don't feel ill and think they don't have it.

[Anonymous]

Interesting thought:

The U Mass Boston student came directly from Wuhan and didn't spread it. Ditto the kid at the Arizona State.

Those were a while back

Biogen conference in Boston is responsible for almost all MA cases now. I'd be looking at why there and not the colleges. My guess is going to be handshakes, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's a thought:

You are sick. You might have COVID. Make the personal decision not to spread it. Call if your symptoms worsen and arrange to be seen in a safe way.

If YOU choose to self-isolate because you are sick, you won't spread it to others. You will limit the spread.

Remember the slogan "only YOU can prevent forest fires?"

THAT!

Aren't you contagious before you have symptoms?

The CDC says that's really not true. That maybe a day or two prior with low level symptoms. Idiots here are saying "two weeks without symptoms" "a month without symptoms" Does that even seem logical to you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's a thought:

You are sick. You might have COVID. Make the personal decision not to spread it. Call if your symptoms worsen and arrange to be seen in a safe way.

If YOU choose to self-isolate because you are sick, you won't spread it to others. You will limit the spread.

Remember the slogan "only YOU can prevent forest fires?"

THAT!

This is bad advice and contradicts the advice from all Departments of Health and the CDC.

Don't spread bad advice. B