Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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Anonymous wrote:Crossfield now want a magnet school so they don’t get sent to KAA. Pathetic.

Where have they publicly advocated for this? Last I heard they were advocating for Option B of the four maps. I didn't hear anyone at a meeting say KAA should be a magnet. Are they lobbying school board members behind closed doors or something?

On their own website:

https://rootedinoakton.com/ourposition

This is not Crossfield's website. This is the website of maybe 20 people, most of whom have older kids already at Oakton and want their younger kids to go to the same high school. They've maybe joined up with 10 other people who have kids in Navy AAP and like all other Navy parents, are insane.

If it’s not crossfield’s website then why did the crossfield elementary school officially send out a newsletter with a link to this website last week?

Obviously the select few powers at be in the Crossfield PTO have their claws in the school and are driving the ship with this website and the school messaging itself. This should not come as a surprise to anyone who knows how the PTO operates.

The same people run the Crossfield PTO and the rooted website. Of courses they’re going to use Crossfield communications to promote the site. I’ve heard the Crossfield principal is heavily influenced by the PTO parents.

Who cares? Look at how the entire Town of Vienna government is throwing a fit to keep all TOV kids assigned to a high school that isn’t even in the TOV.

As long as Reid and the School Board pander to the loudest voices people are going to get louder, whether it relates to Western or any other desired or undesired school.

[Anonymous]

Option A is the cleanest. Just add the rest of Floris.
It makes the most sense.

1. Reduces overcrowding at Chantilly.
2. Reduces long bus trips to Oakton. KAA is closer and the trip is extremely long for most.
3. Eliminates crowding at Westfield.
4. Does not pull very many from South Lakes.
5. Those redistricted from Chantilly to Westfield are set to be moved in the Boundary study--so no difference here.
6. Centreville kids also are proposed to be moved in comprehensive boundary study.

And, it makes sense.

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Anonymous wrote:They don't need a magnet! Just set up a regular old high school. Its not hard! It really isn't.

Agreed. That said, what's the "may" in Cat2. The only rational answer I can cook up is they're not certain what the building capacity will actually end up being for two reasons 1) magnet size and 2) varying cost/affordability for different capacities as they are getting pushback over the impact on the renovation queue.

No. More likely they have not decided on the boundary.

They should do that now. They have the options. Be a "big boy/girl" School Board and choose one.

I was considering that there could actually be a rational explanation that's not just missing big boy/girl pants. The current options have significantly different student sizes - so impact magnet feasibility, capacity ratios, and building cost.

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Anonymous wrote:Crossfield now want a magnet school so they don’t get sent to KAA. Pathetic.

Where have they publicly advocated for this? Last I heard they were advocating for Option B of the four maps. I didn't hear anyone at a meeting say KAA should be a magnet. Are they lobbying school board members behind closed doors or something?

On their own website:

https://rootedinoakton.com/ourposition

This is not Crossfield's website. This is the website of maybe 20 people, most of whom have older kids already at Oakton and want their younger kids to go to the same high school. They've maybe joined up with 10 other people who have kids in Navy AAP and like all other Navy parents, are insane.

If it’s not crossfield’s website then why did the crossfield elementary school officially send out a newsletter with a link to this website last week?

Obviously the select few powers at be in the Crossfield PTO have their claws in the school and are driving the ship with this website and the school messaging itself. This should not come as a surprise to anyone who knows how the PTO operates.

The same people run the Crossfield PTO and the rooted website. Of courses they’re going to use Crossfield communications to promote the site. I’ve heard the Crossfield principal is heavily influenced by the PTO parents.

Who cares? Look at how the entire Town of Vienna government is throwing a fit to keep all TOV kids assigned to a high school that isn’t even in the TOV.

As long as Reid and the School Board pander to the loudest voices people are going to get louder, whether it relates to Western or any other desired or undesired school.

I don't live in the Town of Vienna, but I have friends who grew up there--and their parents did, as well.
Madison is very much supported by the residents and it would be a shame to split it up.

This is from the fcps.edu Madison profile from the principal's statement:

James Madison High School, a staple of the Vienna Community, has served its residents for over 59 years. Madison High School opened in September 1959 and has undergone three major renovations with the last one completed in 2003.

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Anonymous wrote:Option A is the cleanest. Just add the rest of Floris.
It makes the most sense.

1. Reduces overcrowding at Chantilly.
2. Reduces long bus trips to Oakton. KAA is closer and the trip is extremely long for most.
3. Eliminates crowding at Westfield.
4. Does not pull very many from South Lakes.
5. Those redistricted from Chantilly to Westfield are set to be moved in the Boundary study--so no difference here.
6. Centreville kids also are proposed to be moved in comprehensive boundary study.

And, it makes sense.

Agreed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Apparently Western High School Update will be discussed on November 12.

WHS: Proposed Opt-in and Transportation
• Full enrollment will be achieved with student opt-in categories
• Transportation will only be provided for those students in the final boundary
• Students opting out of WHS will ride buses with 11th and 12th graders to their former base school

Year 1 Grades 9 and 10 SY 2026-27
● Students opt-in to WHS according to phasing plan
● Transportation is provided for those in-boundary
Year 2 Grade 9 SY 2027-28
● 9th grade class is formed with in-boundary students
● Students may opt-out
● Students may opt-in according to phasing plan
Year 3 Grade 9 SY 2028-29
● 9th grade class is formed with in-boundary students
● Students may opt-in according to phasing plan

I am trying to understand Year 3. Does that mean students whose homes are in the final drawn boundaries have to go there, and students from the other 2 pyramids nearby that did not get included in the final boundaries could opt in to attend if they wanted to?

I feel like this will be a mess for them to implement, but it would probably lead to a lot of people backing off in their fight for whatever it is they do or don't want. Especially if they were to let younger siblings attend the same high school as the older one IF they will be in high school at the same time.

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Anonymous wrote:Crossfield now want a magnet school so they don’t get sent to KAA. Pathetic.

Where have they publicly advocated for this? Last I heard they were advocating for Option B of the four maps. I didn't hear anyone at a meeting say KAA should be a magnet. Are they lobbying school board members behind closed doors or something?

On their own website:

https://rootedinoakton.com/ourposition

This is not Crossfield's website. This is the website of maybe 20 people, most of whom have older kids already at Oakton and want their younger kids to go to the same high school. They've maybe joined up with 10 other people who have kids in Navy AAP and like all other Navy parents, are insane.

If it’s not crossfield’s website then why did the crossfield elementary school officially send out a newsletter with a link to this website last week?

Obviously the select few powers at be in the Crossfield PTO have their claws in the school and are driving the ship with this website and the school messaging itself. This should not come as a surprise to anyone who knows how the PTO operates.

The same people run the Crossfield PTO and the rooted website. Of courses they’re going to use Crossfield communications to promote the site. I’ve heard the Crossfield principal is heavily influenced by the PTO parents.

Who cares? Look at how the entire Town of Vienna government is throwing a fit to keep all TOV kids assigned to a high school that isn’t even in the TOV.

As long as Reid and the School Board pander to the loudest voices people are going to get louder, whether it relates to Western or any other desired or undesired school.

I don't live in the Town of Vienna, but I have friends who grew up there--and their parents did, as well.
Madison is very much supported by the residents and it would be a shame to split it up.

This is from the fcps.edu Madison profile from the principal's statement:

James Madison High School, a staple of the Vienna Community, has served its residents for over 59 years. Madison High School opened in September 1959 and has undergone three major renovations with the last one completed in 2003.

People who live in these "towns" shouldn't get preferential treatment as far as boundaries compared to any other FCPS student or area.

[Anonymous]

What's clear from the latest materials is that the KAA acquisition was anything but a "turnkey purchase," and the final cost will be well in excess of $150 million.

Taxpayers have been misled, and those sitting in older, unrenovated schools also have every right to toss out School Board members like Ricardy Anderson, Marcia St. John-Cunning, Karl Frisch, and Robyn Lady.

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Anonymous wrote:What's clear from the latest materials is that the KAA acquisition was anything but a "turnkey purchase," and the final cost will be well in excess of $150 million.

Taxpayers have been misled, and those sitting in older, unrenovated schools also have every right to toss out School Board members like Ricardy Anderson, Marcia St. John-Cunning, Karl Frisch, and Robyn Lady.

Disagree. Sure, adaptations will be necessary. But, adding more modulars is also expensive when schools become overcrowded.

You know what else is expensive? Hiring a contractor to do the work--like THRU. I'd love to know how much we have paid them so far--bet it is a lot more than that $500 K initial bid. Not to mention all the staff and expenses that have gone to all these meetings. etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What's clear from the latest materials is that the KAA acquisition was anything but a "turnkey purchase," and the final cost will be well in excess of $150 million.

Taxpayers have been misled, and those sitting in older, unrenovated schools also have every right to toss out School Board members like Ricardy Anderson, Marcia St. John-Cunning, Karl Frisch, and Robyn Lady.

Disagree. Sure, adaptations will be necessary. But, adding more modulars is also expensive when schools become overcrowded.

You know what else is expensive? Hiring a contractor to do the work--like THRU. I'd love to know how much we have paid them so far--bet it is a lot more than that $500 K initial bid. Not to mention all the staff and expenses that have gone to all these meetings. etc.

You’re comparing the cost of a modular to the western HS? Not even close.

It’s not too much to expect them to be honest both about the readiness and the cost of this facility. But that’s not in their wheelhouse, and it’s one reason why other schools end up overlooked and neglected.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What's clear from the latest materials is that the KAA acquisition was anything but a "turnkey purchase," and the final cost will be well in excess of $150 million.

Taxpayers have been misled, and those sitting in older, unrenovated schools also have every right to toss out School Board members like Ricardy Anderson, Marcia St. John-Cunning, Karl Frisch, and Robyn Lady.

Disagree. Sure, adaptations will be necessary. But, adding more modulars is also expensive when schools become overcrowded.

You know what else is expensive? Hiring a contractor to do the work--like THRU. I'd love to know how much we have paid them so far--bet it is a lot more than that $500 K initial bid. Not to mention all the staff and expenses that have gone to all these meetings. etc.

You’re comparing the cost of a modular to the western HS? Not even close.

It’s not too much to expect them to be honest both about the readiness and the cost of this facility. But that’s not in their wheelhouse, and it’s one reason why other schools end up overlooked and neglected.

The cost of preparing it is likely less than it would be to add modulars at overcrowded schools. The purchase was a bargain and is fulfilling a need.

This area has been promised a high school for years. The KAA site was given away once due to political pressure, it would have been egregious to let it go again.

It is a bargain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Crossfield now want a magnet school so they don’t get sent to KAA. Pathetic.

Where have they publicly advocated for this? Last I heard they were advocating for Option B of the four maps. I didn't hear anyone at a meeting say KAA should be a magnet. Are they lobbying school board members behind closed doors or something?

On their own website:

https://rootedinoakton.com/ourposition

This is not Crossfield's website. This is the website of maybe 20 people, most of whom have older kids already at Oakton and want their younger kids to go to the same high school. They've maybe joined up with 10 other people who have kids in Navy AAP and like all other Navy parents, are insane.

If it’s not crossfield’s website then why did the crossfield elementary school officially send out a newsletter with a link to this website last week?

Obviously the select few powers at be in the Crossfield PTO have their claws in the school and are driving the ship with this website and the school messaging itself. This should not come as a surprise to anyone who knows how the PTO operates.

The same people run the Crossfield PTO and the rooted website. Of courses they’re going to use Crossfield communications to promote the site. I’ve heard the Crossfield principal is heavily influenced by the PTO parents.

Who cares? Look at how the entire Town of Vienna government is throwing a fit to keep all TOV kids assigned to a high school that isn’t even in the TOV.

As long as Reid and the School Board pander to the loudest voices people are going to get louder, whether it relates to Western or any other desired or undesired school.

A handful of PTO Karens commandeering the official school email system to lobby for their special point of view is grossly inappropriate.

If I were a Crossfield parent who wanted to go to KAA I’d be furious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Crossfield now want a magnet school so they don’t get sent to KAA. Pathetic.

Where have they publicly advocated for this? Last I heard they were advocating for Option B of the four maps. I didn't hear anyone at a meeting say KAA should be a magnet. Are they lobbying school board members behind closed doors or something?

On their own website:

https://rootedinoakton.com/ourposition

This is not Crossfield's website. This is the website of maybe 20 people, most of whom have older kids already at Oakton and want their younger kids to go to the same high school. They've maybe joined up with 10 other people who have kids in Navy AAP and like all other Navy parents, are insane.

If it’s not crossfield’s website then why did the crossfield elementary school officially send out a newsletter with a link to this website last week?

Obviously the select few powers at be in the Crossfield PTO have their claws in the school and are driving the ship with this website and the school messaging itself. This should not come as a surprise to anyone who knows how the PTO operates.

The same people run the Crossfield PTO and the rooted website. Of courses they’re going to use Crossfield communications to promote the site. I’ve heard the Crossfield principal is heavily influenced by the PTO parents.

Who cares? Look at how the entire Town of Vienna government is throwing a fit to keep all TOV kids assigned to a high school that isn’t even in the TOV.

As long as Reid and the School Board pander to the loudest voices people are going to get louder, whether it relates to Western or any other desired or undesired school.

A handful of PTO Karens commandeering the official school email system to lobby for their special point of view is grossly inappropriate.

If I were a Crossfield parent who wanted to go to KAA I’d be furious.

Dude, you do not live within our boundrary. We are not, as I know my kids will be safer at base school.

But you might be furious because you can not sent yours to KAA.

[Anonymous]

Sell KAA to digital reality, then use the profits to expand Westfield's.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's clear from the latest materials is that the KAA acquisition was anything but a "turnkey purchase," and the final cost will be well in excess of $150 million.

Taxpayers have been misled, and those sitting in older, unrenovated schools also have every right to toss out School Board members like Ricardy Anderson, Marcia St. John-Cunning, Karl Frisch, and Robyn Lady.

Disagree. Sure, adaptations will be necessary. But, adding more modulars is also expensive when schools become overcrowded.

You know what else is expensive? Hiring a contractor to do the work--like THRU. I'd love to know how much we have paid them so far--bet it is a lot more than that $500 K initial bid. Not to mention all the staff and expenses that have gone to all these meetings. etc.

You’re comparing the cost of a modular to the western HS? Not even close.

It’s not too much to expect them to be honest both about the readiness and the cost of this facility. But that’s not in their wheelhouse, and it’s one reason why other schools end up overlooked and neglected.

The cost of preparing it is likely less than it would be to add modulars at overcrowded schools. The purchase was a bargain and is fulfilling a need.

This area has been promised a high school for years. The KAA site was given away once due to political pressure, it would have been egregious to let it go again.

It is a bargain.

That remains to be seen. We don’t know the final price or how much excess capacity we’ll be creating at a host of schools.

And if this was what they were originally claiming we wouldn’t be hearing about these convoluted opt-in plans now. They couldn’t do more if they tried to send a message that many may prefer to avoid this new school as long as possible.