Detroit Sheriff is short 150 deputies; receives zero job applications

Anonymous
^make more…
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When good cops protect bad cops, they’re culpable. The police need to do a better job of policing themselves.

The respect problem they have was earned.


When cops clean house, this issue will go away.


So my DH is a good cop on a shift full of good cops. They have tons of life-saving awards between them and no internal affairs investigations. They support each other and hold each other accountable. In short, they are exactly what you want police to be. So here’s the question: they receive the same anti-police hostility as every other police officer. What else can they possibly do to please the anti-police crowd? PP says they “earned” this problem. What more can they do to earn your respect? Sincerely... I would like to know. It pains ME to see how beat up he feels, and yet he walks out the door to do more good work in spite of the hate he receives.


No one thinks all police are "bad".

The GOP is pushing that and it's not true.

What we do know is DT defunded the police all over the county. PERIOD> FACT. He owes those departments millions of dollars what do Trump supporters think the police should do with those short falls?



DP. WTF?? 1). There most certainly are people who hate all police. Ever heard of ACAB? Educate yourself. 2). Please provide links to back up your BS claim that Trump defunded police. We’ll wait.


Psaki just made the laughably fake claim that the GOP is behind the movement to defund police.
Anonymous
https://www.cnn.com/factsfirst/politics/factcheck_675fff6a-791d-4092-8213-2e33a502656d

Trumps budget proposal called for defunding police. Like most budget proposals, it was never passed
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Anonymous wrote:The best way to solve bad cops is to have them hold malpractice insurance like doctors and get rid of their immunity. Bad cops won’t be around for long!


This is a terrible idea. Cops will become the get rich quick scheme.


Right now, taxpayers pay out millions in damages as a result of bad cops. Why not shift those costs directly to the bad cops?
Anonymous
When cops clean house, most of these problems will cease.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When good cops protect bad cops, they’re culpable. The police need to do a better job of policing themselves.

The respect problem they have was earned.


When cops clean house, this issue will go away.


So my DH is a good cop on a shift full of good cops. They have tons of life-saving awards between them and no internal affairs investigations. They support each other and hold each other accountable. In short, they are exactly what you want police to be. So here’s the question: they receive the same anti-police hostility as every other police officer. What else can they possibly do to please the anti-police crowd? PP says they “earned” this problem. What more can they do to earn your respect? Sincerely... I would like to know. It pains ME to see how beat up he feels, and yet he walks out the door to do more good work in spite of the hate he receives.


Technically, this could be any profession. Take teaching for example. DCUM has tarred and feathered every public school teacher based on social media claims about virtual learning. But either your DH is a good cop because he’s a good person (in which case he doesn’t need our respect) or he’s a good cop because of the carrot/stick. Which is it? A lot of cops right now need the stick of being afraid of being investigated, but we know that for every investigation, there are dozens more incidents that never are looked into.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The best way to solve bad cops is to have them hold malpractice insurance like doctors and get rid of their immunity. Bad cops won’t be around for long!


This is a terrible idea. Cops will become the get rich quick scheme.


Right now, taxpayers pay out millions in damages as a result of bad cops. Why not shift those costs directly to the bad cops?


In 2019, the City of Chicago paid out $45m in either settlements or jury awards to victims of police brutality, for wrongful deaths, for wrongful convictions based on doctored evidence, etc.

If we shifted these costs from the taxpayers to the precincts, individual officers, or insurance companies, that would provide a real incentive to clean up the bad cops.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When good cops protect bad cops, they’re culpable. The police need to do a better job of policing themselves.

The respect problem they have was earned.


When cops clean house, this issue will go away.


So my DH is a good cop on a shift full of good cops. They have tons of life-saving awards between them and no internal affairs investigations. They support each other and hold each other accountable. In short, they are exactly what you want police to be. So here’s the question: they receive the same anti-police hostility as every other police officer. What else can they possibly do to please the anti-police crowd? PP says they “earned” this problem. What more can they do to earn your respect? Sincerely... I would like to know. It pains ME to see how beat up he feels, and yet he walks out the door to do more good work in spite of the hate he receives.


No one thinks all police are "bad".

The GOP is pushing that and it's not true.

What we do know is DT defunded the police all over the county. PERIOD> FACT. He owes those departments millions of dollars what do Trump supporters think the police should do with those short falls?



DP. WTF?? 1). There most certainly are people who hate all police. Ever heard of ACAB? Educate yourself. 2). Please provide links to back up your BS claim that Trump defunded police. We’ll wait.


Psaki just made the laughably fake claim that the GOP is behind the movement to defund police.


This is what we know as “gaslighting.”

I would have loved to sit in on the damage control meeting where they discussed their strategy for trying to flip the script.
Pure comedy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When good cops protect bad cops, they’re culpable. The police need to do a better job of policing themselves.

The respect problem they have was earned.


When cops clean house, this issue will go away.


So my DH is a good cop on a shift full of good cops. They have tons of life-saving awards between them and no internal affairs investigations. They support each other and hold each other accountable. In short, they are exactly what you want police to be. So here’s the question: they receive the same anti-police hostility as every other police officer. What else can they possibly do to please the anti-police crowd? PP says they “earned” this problem. What more can they do to earn your respect? Sincerely... I would like to know. It pains ME to see how beat up he feels, and yet he walks out the door to do more good work in spite of the hate he receives.


"I want this court to know that none of these things are true, and that my son is a good man. He has a big heart and he always has put others before his own. The public will never know the loving and caring man he is. But his family does." - Derek Chauvin's mom



Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When good cops protect bad cops, they’re culpable. The police need to do a better job of policing themselves.

The respect problem they have was earned.


When cops clean house, this issue will go away.


So my DH is a good cop on a shift full of good cops. They have tons of life-saving awards between them and no internal affairs investigations. They support each other and hold each other accountable. In short, they are exactly what you want police to be. So here’s the question: they receive the same anti-police hostility as every other police officer. What else can they possibly do to please the anti-police crowd? PP says they “earned” this problem. What more can they do to earn your respect? Sincerely... I would like to know. It pains ME to see how beat up he feels, and yet he walks out the door to do more good work in spite of the hate he receives.


How many bad cops did they get fired or put behind bars?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When good cops protect bad cops, they’re culpable. The police need to do a better job of policing themselves.

The respect problem they have was earned.


When cops clean house, this issue will go away.


So my DH is a good cop on a shift full of good cops. They have tons of life-saving awards between them and no internal affairs investigations. They support each other and hold each other accountable. In short, they are exactly what you want police to be. So here’s the question: they receive the same anti-police hostility as every other police officer. What else can they possibly do to please the anti-police crowd? PP says they “earned” this problem. What more can they do to earn your respect? Sincerely... I would like to know. It pains ME to see how beat up he feels, and yet he walks out the door to do more good work in spite of the hate he receives.


"I want this court to know that none of these things are true, and that my son is a good man. He has a big heart and he always has put others before his own. The public will never know the loving and caring man he is. But his family does." - Derek Chauvin's mom


DP.
What’s your point? That a mom loves her son?



Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When good cops protect bad cops, they’re culpable. The police need to do a better job of policing themselves.

The respect problem they have was earned.


When cops clean house, this issue will go away.


So my DH is a good cop on a shift full of good cops. They have tons of life-saving awards between them and no internal affairs investigations. They support each other and hold each other accountable. In short, they are exactly what you want police to be. So here’s the question: they receive the same anti-police hostility as every other police officer. What else can they possibly do to please the anti-police crowd? PP says they “earned” this problem. What more can they do to earn your respect? Sincerely... I would like to know. It pains ME to see how beat up he feels, and yet he walks out the door to do more good work in spite of the hate he receives.


How many bad cops did they get fired or put behind bars?


DP


If this is a measure of being a good cop, society is screwed.
You seem to believe there are bad cops everywhere. There aren’t.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When good cops protect bad cops, they’re culpable. The police need to do a better job of policing themselves.

The respect problem they have was earned.


When cops clean house, this issue will go away.


So my DH is a good cop on a shift full of good cops. They have tons of life-saving awards between them and no internal affairs investigations. They support each other and hold each other accountable. In short, they are exactly what you want police to be. So here’s the question: they receive the same anti-police hostility as every other police officer. What else can they possibly do to please the anti-police crowd? PP says they “earned” this problem. What more can they do to earn your respect? Sincerely... I would like to know. It pains ME to see how beat up he feels, and yet he walks out the door to do more good work in spite of the hate he receives.



He can make it clear publicly that black lives matter to him, that he is committed to fair and just policing, that he agrees Derek Chauvin (as one example) was wrong to kneel on George Floyd's neck for 9 minutes, etc. Don's assume people just know you are one of the good guys. Say it. Show it. Condemn unwarranted police violence when it happens.

Awards awarded by policing institutions might carry less weight than making it clear that you condemn the treatment of Sandra Bland, or Philando Castile, etc. etc. The short hand to show that you agree with that is "Black Lives Matter".


DP. It seems like this issue of "there are some bad apples but most cops are good so why are they being treated bad like the bad ones" is similar to "there are some bad apples in the black community but many are good so why are they being treated bad like the bad ones".

It's interesting that some people seem to understand the situation on the black side but not the cops side. Cops can literally be shot dead in a second if they don't protect themselves properly.

Instead of just saying that cops should bend over backwards to prove that they aren't one of the bad apples, maybe the good black people should also bend over backwards to make it clear that they're not in the group that are going to fight an officer and use his weapon against him or randomly pull out a weapon of his own and fire it. But then people say why should people in that group (either group) need to do that.

I don't think anything is going to improve here until we get people on BOTH sides to acknowledge that each group could do more to show that they aren't one of the bad apples in their group. And to stop protecting the bad apples and do more to make sure that the bad apples in their group are in prison for as long as possible. With the bad apples all gone, people could relax more and we can have a better country.
Anonymous
DP. It seems like this issue of "there are some bad apples but most cops are good so why are they being treated bad like the bad ones" is similar to "there are some bad apples in the black community but many are good so why are they being treated bad like the bad ones".

It's interesting that some people seem to understand the situation on the black side but not the cops side. Cops can literally be shot dead in a second if they don't protect themselves properly.

Instead of just saying that cops should bend over backwards to prove that they aren't one of the bad apples, maybe the good black people should also bend over backwards to make it clear that they're not in the group that are going to fight an officer and use his weapon against him or randomly pull out a weapon of his own and fire it. But then people say why should people in that group (either group) need to do that.

I don't think anything is going to improve here until we get people on BOTH sides to acknowledge that each group could do more to show that they aren't one of the bad apples in their group. And to stop protecting the bad apples and do more to make sure that the bad apples in their group are in prison for as long as possible. With the bad apples all gone, people could relax more and we can have a better country.


You need to watch some of the footage of "good" Black folks who defer to police instructions and are still murdered in cold blood.

Philando Castille informed the officer that he had a licensed concealed weapon. He did EXACTLY what he was supposed to do, and was shot in cold blood in front of his GF and his GF's child.

John Crawford was walking through a Wal Mart with a pellet gun he got off the rack. Shot to death.

Caron Nazario was complying with all orders and still in uniform when he was pulled over, and was dragged from his car and pepper sprayed.

Botham Jean was just sitting in his living room watching television when he was shot by an off-duty police officer in his own apartment.

Andre Hill was killed because he was holding a mobile phone that police mistook for a gun, just weeks after another Black man was killed when police mistook his sandwich for a gun.

On and on and on. There is no level of "compliance" that works on killer cops. There's no magic word that Black moms can give their sons to keep them safe.



Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When good cops protect bad cops, they’re culpable. The police need to do a better job of policing themselves.

The respect problem they have was earned.


When cops clean house, this issue will go away.


So my DH is a good cop on a shift full of good cops. They have tons of life-saving awards between them and no internal affairs investigations. They support each other and hold each other accountable. In short, they are exactly what you want police to be. So here’s the question: they receive the same anti-police hostility as every other police officer. What else can they possibly do to please the anti-police crowd? PP says they “earned” this problem. What more can they do to earn your respect? Sincerely... I would like to know. It pains ME to see how beat up he feels, and yet he walks out the door to do more good work in spite of the hate he receives.


"I want this court to know that none of these things are true, and that my son is a good man. He has a big heart and he always has put others before his own. The public will never know the loving and caring man he is. But his family does." - Derek Chauvin's mom


DP.
What’s your point? That a mom loves her son?





I think the point is that the loved ones of police officers are not best situated to comment on whether they are "good cops." I mean, Chauvin was so well-regarded within the force that he was allowed to train recruits despite having numerous brutality accusations and having been involved in more than one suspicious death.
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