When will covid vaccines be done with the EMERGENCY approval status?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They need to review the safety data for real now. And the number of adverse events is astronomical. So it will be a long time (if ever) it's approved. So much data and backlogged.

Astronomical? Under what metric? Did you do a sophisticated analysis comparing data to background rates as well?

No I didn't do a study. It's public knowledge. Have you been under a rock? You didn't think there have been adverse events? Probably because millions of people vaccinated at once but regardless they need to study each and every event which is in the thousands.

I’m not denying adverse effects. Don’t misquote me.
Making exaggerated claims [“astronomical”] suggests bias on your end though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They need to review the safety data for real now. And the number of adverse events is astronomical. So it will be a long time (if ever) it's approved. So much data and backlogged.

Astronomical? Under what metric? Did you do a sophisticated analysis comparing data to background rates as well?

No I didn't do a study. It's public knowledge. Have you been under a rock? You didn't think there have been adverse events? Probably because millions of people vaccinated at once but regardless they need to study each and every event which is in the thousands.

They don't actually need to study every event. Lots of people report things like sore arms, fevers, muscle aches, etc. Those are normal side effects of vaccines, and they aren't going to investigate those. They are only going to look at serious adverse events, of which there are far fewer.

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Anonymous wrote:So what’s the difference between “approval” and “authorization”, as far as vaccines are concerned?

emergency use authorization is granted when certain criteria are met, including there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives. In this case, 2 months of data was required along with the fact that there was no adequate approved alternative.

approval requires 6 months of data

Tick tock. It's been 6 months. Should be approved any day no?

Yes, maybe by this afternoon.

So when the FDA waves its magic wand, will we see a jump in vaccination rate?

They will find something else...maybe they can start saying vaccines cause autism again.

Out of my family and circle of friends I was the first to line up for every other vaccine, flu, Tdap, hepatitis vaccines. I am not getting this one though, at least not until it has been approved for a year or so. Call me all the names you want, it’s help turning me off to the vaccines even more.

Then by all means, jump out of the gene pool.

Asshole.

Unfortunately, we’ve got a free rider problem now. Combined with very, very low mortality for people in their 20s and 30s.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what’s the difference between “approval” and “authorization”, as far as vaccines are concerned?

emergency use authorization is granted when certain criteria are met, including there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives. In this case, 2 months of data was required along with the fact that there was no adequate approved alternative.

approval requires 6 months of data

Tick tock. It's been 6 months. Should be approved any day no?

Yes, maybe by this afternoon.

So when the FDA waves its magic wand, will we see a jump in vaccination rate?

They will find something else...maybe they can start saying vaccines cause autism again.

Out of my family and circle of friends I was the first to line up for every other vaccine, flu, Tdap, hepatitis vaccines. I am not getting this one though, at least not until it has been approved for a year or so. Call me all the names you want, it’s help turning me off to the vaccines even more.

Then by all means, jump out of the gene pool.

Asshole.

Unfortunately, we’ve got a free rider problem now. Combined with very, very low mortality for people in their 20s and 30s.

Isn't it good news that "free riding" is possible and works? That is great for young children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to review the safety data for real now. And the number of adverse events is astronomical. So it will be a long time (if ever) it's approved. So much data and backlogged.

Astronomical? Under what metric? Did you do a sophisticated analysis comparing data to background rates as well?

No I didn't do a study. It's public knowledge. Have you been under a rock? You didn't think there have been adverse events? Probably because millions of people vaccinated at once but regardless they need to study each and every event which is in the thousands.

They don't actually need to study every event. Lots of people report things like sore arms, fevers, muscle aches, etc. Those are normal side effects of vaccines, and they aren't going to investigate those. They are only going to look at serious adverse events, of which there are far fewer.

Of course they aren't investigating sore arms. But there are many other adverse events to look into like strokes, TTP, ITP, a fib, hearing loss, myocarditis, shingles, brain fog, neuropathy, paralysis, vision loss and issues, myocarditis, deaths, pericarditis, chest pain. Thousands of things to investigate to make sure it's not just coincidence. Might be, but one can't assume. Since trials were 40k people, most adverse events don't show up in the short time or small number. They will then determine if the risk/benefit and what other treatments. Long process and not a given. Some EUA's never make it to approval. What was safe during the surge might not be forever

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what’s the difference between “approval” and “authorization”, as far as vaccines are concerned?

emergency use authorization is granted when certain criteria are met, including there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives. In this case, 2 months of data was required along with the fact that there was no adequate approved alternative.

approval requires 6 months of data

Tick tock. It's been 6 months. Should be approved any day no?

Yes, maybe by this afternoon.

So when the FDA waves its magic wand, will we see a jump in vaccination rate?

They will find something else...maybe they can start saying vaccines cause autism again.

Out of my family and circle of friends I was the first to line up for every other vaccine, flu, Tdap, hepatitis vaccines. I am not getting this one though, at least not until it has been approved for a year or so. Call me all the names you want, it’s help turning me off to the vaccines even more.

Then by all means, jump out of the gene pool.

Asshole.

Unfortunately, we’ve got a free rider problem now. Combined with very, very low mortality for people in their 20s and 30s.

What is a free rider problem?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what’s the difference between “approval” and “authorization”, as far as vaccines are concerned?

emergency use authorization is granted when certain criteria are met, including there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives. In this case, 2 months of data was required along with the fact that there was no adequate approved alternative.

approval requires 6 months of data

Tick tock. It's been 6 months. Should be approved any day no?

Yes, maybe by this afternoon.

So when the FDA waves its magic wand, will we see a jump in vaccination rate?

They will find something else...maybe they can start saying vaccines cause autism again.

Out of my family and circle of friends I was the first to line up for every other vaccine, flu, Tdap, hepatitis vaccines. I am not getting this one though, at least not until it has been approved for a year or so. Call me all the names you want, it’s help turning me off to the vaccines even more.

Then by all means, jump out of the gene pool.

Asshole.

Unfortunately, we’ve got a free rider problem now. Combined with very, very low mortality for people in their 20s and 30s.

What is a free rider problem?

This pp doesn't like that unvaccinated people (including young children) are benefitting from herd immunity. It's her ax to grind. The hesitant and outright refusing adults deserve to get sick and die, in her opinion. She's on a crusade. Herd immunity benefits our young children, that should be celebrated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what’s the difference between “approval” and “authorization”, as far as vaccines are concerned?

emergency use authorization is granted when certain criteria are met, including there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives. In this case, 2 months of data was required along with the fact that there was no adequate approved alternative.

approval requires 6 months of data

Tick tock. It's been 6 months. Should be approved any day no?

Yes, maybe by this afternoon.

So when the FDA waves its magic wand, will we see a jump in vaccination rate?

They will find something else...maybe they can start saying vaccines cause autism again.

Out of my family and circle of friends I was the first to line up for every other vaccine, flu, Tdap, hepatitis vaccines. I am not getting this one though, at least not until it has been approved for a year or so. Call me all the names you want, it’s help turning me off to the vaccines even more.

Then by all means, jump out of the gene pool.

Asshole.

Unfortunately, we’ve got a free rider problem now. Combined with very, very low mortality for people in their 20s and 30s.

What is a free rider problem?

This pp doesn't like that unvaccinated people (including young children) are benefitting from herd immunity. It's her ax to grind. The hesitant and outright refusing adults deserve to get sick and die, in her opinion. She's on a crusade. Herd immunity benefits our young children, that should be celebrated.

Exactly.