What ever happened to Crown HS?

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Imagine until 10th grade they’re with their friends, then they’re bused to a brand new high school.

No. They will walk to the new school in their neighborhood, along with all of their friends in the neighborhood.

Except crown area, who’s walkable to crown high school? Certainly not most of Wootton

Crown, Rio, those apartments on Shady Grove Road, Decoverly, some of the neighborhood across Muddy Branch from Belward Farm, maybe Lakelands Ridge... That's all on the one side of 270. There's more on the other side of 270, but I don't think MCPS would expect kids walk over 270 on Shady Grove Road, because that walk is awful. On the other hand, MCPS expects Blair kids to walk over the Beltway on University.

MCPS does run a school bus from Franklin Knolls and Montgomery Knolls just across University to Blair.

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Imagine until 10th grade they’re with their friends, then they’re bused to a brand new high school.

No. They will walk to the new school in their neighborhood, along with all of their friends in the neighborhood.

Except crown area, who’s walkable to crown high school? Certainly not most of Wootton

Typically, if you live within 2 miles of a HS, you're in the walk zone.

No nobody in Wootton is within 2 miles of crown except that triangle

Not true. Parts of Stone Mill and Lakewood are also within 2 miles of Crown.

More than 2 miles, but less than 2.5 miles

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Imagine until 10th grade they’re with their friends, then they’re bused to a brand new high school.

No. They will walk to the new school in their neighborhood, along with all of their friends in the neighborhood.

Except crown area, who’s walkable to crown high school? Certainly not most of Wootton

Typically, if you live within 2 miles of a HS, you're in the walk zone.

No nobody in Wootton is within 2 miles of crown except that triangle

Not true. Parts of Stone Mill and Lakewood are also within 2 miles of Crown.

More than 2 miles, but less than 2.5 miles

The neighborhoods along Darnestown Rd between Travilah and Muddy Branch are about 1.5 to 2 miles away.

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Imagine until 10th grade they’re with their friends, then they’re bused to a brand new high school.

No. They will walk to the new school in their neighborhood, along with all of their friends in the neighborhood.

Except crown area, who’s walkable to crown high school? Certainly not most of Wootton

Typically, if you live within 2 miles of a HS, you're in the walk zone.

No nobody in Wootton is within 2 miles of crown except that triangle

Not true. Parts of Stone Mill and Lakewood are also within 2 miles of Crown.

More than 2 miles, but less than 2.5 miles

The neighborhoods along Darnestown Rd between Travilah and Muddy Branch are about 1.5 to 2 miles away.

2.1 -2.5 miles from my map. If that neighborhood is rezoned to crown, Wootton district will not be continuous.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the presentation from the meeting last week. It is not about boundary study, more about the project team, schedule, and site:

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/facilities/construction/project/MCPS%20Community%20Work%20Session%201%20_20211028.pdf

Looks like they are putting a STEM/IT/Bioscience focus in the school. That's great. IMO, it will be great school.

Yes it will be a great school. But if your kids are the first ones going to a brand new high school, that’s still a big impact on their future.

Huh...how so?

A brand new school needs several years to establish and also let colleges familiarize with it.

A brand new school will attract some of the best, enthusiastic teachers to join the school. Colleges don’t need to be “familiar” with it. They know MCPS and the curriculum. Kids won’t be impacted just because they go to a new school.

Well they will be. Imagine until 10th grade they’re with their friends, then they’re bused to a brand new high school.

Many of their friends would be going with them

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College Gardens will go to Gaithersburg (or at least the King Farm neighborhood) and parts of Gaithersburg will go to Crown...focusing on pulling up the demographics of Gaithersburg.

I pray this is not the way it turns out...

It's 2.2 miles on foot from the King Farm Safeway to Gaithersburg HS, and 3.2 miles to Richard Montgomery HS. Maybe you should discuss your reluctance with that PP who keeps lying about the proportion of Montgomery County residents who believe students should be assigned to the nearest school.
It's 85 to 95% (depending on the area of the county) in support of attending the closest school. Almost no one would support sending kids another mile from home just to balance diversity.

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Most people who move to MoCo do it so their kids can thrive, not just survive. With survival as MCOS's benchmark, it's no wonder so many people are fleeing.

Where are all these fleeing people? We're still crowded in our schools.

Look at MCOS's demographics and which schools are overcrowded or underattened and it'll tell you exactly who and where the people fled from. Hint: UMC white people are leaving in droves white dirt poor Hispanics are flooding in. The problem is that those UMC white people are taking their UMC money with them.

Overcrowded schools like Churchill and WJ?

I mean sure. You'll find a few overcrowded W schools that haven't been renovated in decades. But for the most partz overcrowding is happening where Hispanic immigrants flock. And again, check MCPS demographic. Whitee is headed for greener (or more correctly redder) pastures.

Dp..

I don't think is accurate. If we look at HS with a high population of Hispanics:

SVHS before the redrawing of boundaries was under capacity.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/fy2019/schools/04104.pdf

Springbrook is also under capacity
https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/fy2019/schools/04798.pdf

Which schools have a high % of Hispanic immigrants?

My point was that UMC white people are fleeing the system and being replaced by poor Hispanics, mainly immigrants. This article backs that up:. https://bethesdamagazine.com/january-february-2020/figuratively-speaking-12

31.1 – Percentage of students who are Hispanic/Latino (up from 13.9%)

27.7 – Percentage of students who are white (down from 51.9%)

33.3 – Percentage of students participating in free and reduced-price meals (up from 22.5%

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Most people who move to MoCo do it so their kids can thrive, not just survive. With survival as MCOS's benchmark, it's no wonder so many people are fleeing.

Where are all these fleeing people? We're still crowded in our schools.

Look at MCOS's demographics and which schools are overcrowded or underattened and it'll tell you exactly who and where the people fled from. Hint: UMC white people are leaving in droves white dirt poor Hispanics are flooding in. The problem is that those UMC white people are taking their UMC money with them.

Overcrowded schools like Churchill and WJ?

I mean sure. You'll find a few overcrowded W schools that haven't been renovated in decades. But for the most partz overcrowding is happening where Hispanic immigrants flock. And again, check MCPS demographic. Whitee is headed for greener (or more correctly redder) pastures.

Dp..

I don't think is accurate. If we look at HS with a high population of Hispanics:

SVHS before the redrawing of boundaries was under capacity.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/fy2019/schools/04104.pdf

Springbrook is also under capacity
https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/fy2019/schools/04798.pdf

Which schools have a high % of Hispanic immigrants?

My point was that UMC white people are fleeing the system and being replaced by poor Hispanics, mainly immigrants. This article backs that up:. https://bethesdamagazine.com/january-february-2020/figuratively-speaking-12

31.1 – Percentage of students who are Hispanic/Latino (up from 13.9%)

27.7 – Percentage of students who are white (down from 51.9%)

33.3 – Percentage of students participating in free and reduced-price meals (up from 22.5%

That article says exactly nothing about white people "fleeing the system."

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Most people who move to MoCo do it so their kids can thrive, not just survive. With survival as MCOS's benchmark, it's no wonder so many people are fleeing.

Where are all these fleeing people? We're still crowded in our schools.

Look at MCOS's demographics and which schools are overcrowded or underattened and it'll tell you exactly who and where the people fled from. Hint: UMC white people are leaving in droves white dirt poor Hispanics are flooding in. The problem is that those UMC white people are taking their UMC money with them.

Overcrowded schools like Churchill and WJ?

I mean sure. You'll find a few overcrowded W schools that haven't been renovated in decades. But for the most partz overcrowding is happening where Hispanic immigrants flock. And again, check MCPS demographic. Whitee is headed for greener (or more correctly redder) pastures.

Dp..

I don't think is accurate. If we look at HS with a high population of Hispanics:

SVHS before the redrawing of boundaries was under capacity.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/fy2019/schools/04104.pdf

Springbrook is also under capacity
https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/fy2019/schools/04798.pdf

Which schools have a high % of Hispanic immigrants?

My point was that UMC white people are fleeing the system and being replaced by poor Hispanics, mainly immigrants. This article backs that up:. https://bethesdamagazine.com/january-february-2020/figuratively-speaking-12

31.1 – Percentage of students who are Hispanic/Latino (up from 13.9%)

27.7 – Percentage of students who are white (down from 51.9%)

33.3 – Percentage of students participating in free and reduced-price meals (up from 22.5%

That article says exactly nothing about white people "fleeing the system."

White student number have fallen like a rock in 20 years. How else should we interpret this?

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White student number have fallen like a rock in 20 years. How else should we interpret this?

Percent of people under 18 in the US who were white/non-Hispanic in 2000: 61%
Percent of people under 18 in the US who were white/non-Hispanic in 2020: 47%

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White student number have fallen like a rock in 20 years. How else should we interpret this?

Percent of people under 18 in the US who were white/non-Hispanic in 2000: 61%
Percent of people under 18 in the US who were white/non-Hispanic in 2020: 47%

Demographics for the win!

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White student number have fallen like a rock in 20 years. How else should we interpret this?

Percent of people under 18 in the US who were white/non-Hispanic in 2000: 61%
Percent of people under 18 in the US who were white/non-Hispanic in 2020: 47%

Demographics for the win!

You sure do love hiding behind your percentages. However, these numbers back up my assertion that's white people are fleeing MCPS

# white students in MCPS
2000 - 65,849
2005 - 58,780
2010 - 49,795
2015 - 47,331
2020 - 41,455

Total # MCPS kids 2000-2020
134,308 to 160,564

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You don’t understand much about population dynamics. Yes, there may be fewer white students, but it’s not because people are “fleeing”. We are past the echo boom millennials being in school. Some neighborhoods (e.g. Derwood) have those empty nesters deciding to age in place. Thus not enough housing turnover for the children of those Boomers (young MC families) to purchase starter homes in MoCo. On the flip side, the birth rate for immigrant families and Hispanic families is comparatively high, and those 1st and 2nd generation families are still living in relatively dense housing.

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You don’t know much about moving with your feet, do you?

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/frederick-md-was-the-fastest-growing-city-in-the-dmv-last-year/65-101cc81a-f796-4725-a284-8163870239c9

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White student number have fallen like a rock in 20 years. How else should we interpret this?

Percent of people under 18 in the US who were white/non-Hispanic in 2000: 61%
Percent of people under 18 in the US who were white/non-Hispanic in 2020: 47%

Demographics for the win!

You sure do love hiding behind your percentages. However, these numbers back up my assertion that's white people are fleeing MCPS

# white students in MCPS
2000 - 65,849
2005 - 58,780
2010 - 49,795
2015 - 47,331
2020 - 41,455

Total # MCPS kids 2000-2020
134,308 to 160,564

You could say that *all* of the students from 21 years ago have "fled" MCPS.