Why do uneducated people homeschool?

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Anonymous wrote:I have met a handful of moms in Florida who homeschool. I know for a fact they did not attend college. Their grammar is awful. I know I am not perfect myself but that's why I plan on sending my children to public or private school. Why do they homeschool? It seems so backwards. In my home country home schooling is not legal. We would see it as backwards.

Mostly crazy religious people.

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I thought our neighbors were weird religious freaks when we were growing up. The mum was a special needs teacher, dad was a commercial real estate broker. Super low-key spenders. Homeschooled boy and girl. The kids were so sheltered, but extremely polite, didn't rebel, very religious.

Fast forward 20 years. The boy is a multi-millionaire oral surgeon the daughter had a 4.0 thru undergrad, picked up an Ivy grad degree, works in management at a major non-profit.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought our neighbors were weird religious freaks when we were growing up. The mum was a special needs teacher, dad was a commercial real estate broker. Super low-key spenders. Homeschooled boy and girl. The kids were so sheltered, but extremely polite, didn't rebel, very religious.

Fast forward 20 years. The boy is a multi-millionaire oral surgeon the daughter had a 4.0 thru undergrad, picked up an Ivy grad degree, works in management at a major non-profit.

Also the kids tried local public school for a semester. Top public in the state. Hated it and asked to be homeschool rest of high school.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought our neighbors were weird religious freaks when we were growing up. The mum was a special needs teacher, dad was a commercial real estate broker. Super low-key spenders. Homeschooled boy and girl. The kids were so sheltered, but extremely polite, didn't rebel, very religious.

Fast forward 20 years. The boy is a multi-millionaire oral surgeon the daughter had a 4.0 thru undergrad, picked up an Ivy grad degree, works in management at a major non-profit.

Also the kids tried local public school for a semester. Top public in the state. Hated it and asked to be homeschool rest of high school.

Nice story but it's not relevant to the topic.

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Anonymous wrote:Woman I know (never attended college nor did her husband) homeschool her older daughter. It is sad how much that poor girl is missing. I can't imagine the daughter will ever get to college.

*shrug* We really, really need to get over this bizarre attitude that everyone needs to/should go to college.

+ a million.

This attitude has led to a watered down education , diploma factories, and meaningless advanced degrees.

I agree but I'm also mostly anti-homeschool. I have no problems if you actually educate your kid; the problem is all the idiots who rob their children of an education and those kids end up being a burden on society.

And what about the public school children who are robbed of an education? Attacked and killed in their classroom? Brutally ganged raped in the restroom? Given diplomas despite rarely even showing up for class? Being pushed to the next grade just to make the system look good? You just going to act like that doesn't exist?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/student-at-ballou-dies-nearly-three-weeks-after-being-attacked-in-classroom/2018/01/30/834ccad6-05e5-11e8-8777-2a059f168dd2_story.html?utm_term=.43317ecebe64

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/what-should-really-bother-you-about-the-rockville-high_us_590cea77e4b0f7118072448b

https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2017/11/28/564054556/what-really-happened-at-the-school-where-every-senior-got-into-college
Horrific situations. Where's the outrage there?

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Anonymous wrote:Woman I know (never attended college nor did her husband) homeschool her older daughter. It is sad how much that poor girl is missing. I can't imagine the daughter will ever get to college.

*shrug* We really, really need to get over this bizarre attitude that everyone needs to/should go to college.

+ a million.

This attitude has led to a watered down education , diploma factories, and meaningless advanced degrees.

I agree but I'm also mostly anti-homeschool. I have no problems if you actually educate your kid; the problem is all the idiots who rob their children of an education and those kids end up being a burden on society.

And what about the public school children who are robbed of an education? Attacked and killed in their classroom? Brutally ganged raped in the restroom? Given diplomas despite rarely even showing up for class? Being pushed to the next grade just to make the system look good? You just going to act like that doesn't exist?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/student-at-ballou-dies-nearly-three-weeks-after-being-attacked-in-classroom/2018/01/30/834ccad6-05e5-11e8-8777-2a059f168dd2_story.html?utm_term=.43317ecebe64

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/what-should-really-bother-you-about-the-rockville-high_us_590cea77e4b0f7118072448b

https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2017/11/28/564054556/what-really-happened-at-the-school-where-every-senior-got-into-college
Horrific situations. Where's the outrage there?

Are you mental?

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Anonymous wrote:Woman I know (never attended college nor did her husband) homeschool her older daughter. It is sad how much that poor girl is missing. I can't imagine the daughter will ever get to college.

*shrug* We really, really need to get over this bizarre attitude that everyone needs to/should go to college.

+ a million.

This attitude has led to a watered down education , diploma factories, and meaningless advanced degrees.

I agree but I'm also mostly anti-homeschool. I have no problems if you actually educate your kid; the problem is all the idiots who rob their children of an education and those kids end up being a burden on society.

And what about the public school children who are robbed of an education? Attacked and killed in their classroom? Brutally ganged raped in the restroom? Given diplomas despite rarely even showing up for class? Being pushed to the next grade just to make the system look good? You just going to act like that doesn't exist?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/student-at-ballou-dies-nearly-three-weeks-after-being-attacked-in-classroom/2018/01/30/834ccad6-05e5-11e8-8777-2a059f168dd2_story.html?utm_term=.43317ecebe64

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/what-should-really-bother-you-about-the-rockville-high_us_590cea77e4b0f7118072448b

https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2017/11/28/564054556/what-really-happened-at-the-school-where-every-senior-got-into-college
Horrific situations. Where's the outrage there?

Where's the outrage? Have you been under a rock? Parents and lawmakers and students themselves just had a walk out over gun violence in schools.

On the other hand, homeschooled kids have no such recourse or support if things aren't going well at home.

Finally, if your best defense about the lack of quality of homeschool education is to point out the problems at some of the worst performing public schools, you might be grasping at straws .

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Anonymous wrote:Homeschooler here. I know my own limitations, and would not attempt to teach high school level physics or chemistry to my own children... I'll send them to the local community college for those types of courses if I can not find an appropriate teacher/tutor among the homeschoolers that I know. When someone insinuates, however, that I'm not qualified to teach my six year old and nine year old children (after going through 12 years of public school and several semesters of college), then they are basically saying that the public school system taught me squat. Which, if that were true, would be one reason for not wanting one's own children in said system, right?

What? Saying you are not qualified to teach is not the same as saying the public school system taught you squat. My neighbor is very smart and well educated. She's a good attorney. But when I needed a root canal I didn't call her. Saying you are not qualified to do a certain job doesn't mean you are stupid or public school failed you. It means you are not qualified for every job.

Your logic is deeply flawed.

What's flawed is your own logic and argument tactics. We're not asking an attorney to do a root canal. We're asking an educated mother to teach her six-year-old math. Of course she can do that. Most people can do that who have a basic education.

Reading is fundamental. Read what you responded to. She is not talking about a 6 year old, she is talking about chem and physics so she plans to continue through high school, genius. If you want to argue, please stay on topic.

Look people can do what they want with their kids. Smoke around them, feed them crap. It's America. I don't agree with it, but I recognize their right. All I'm asking for are some basic standards to protect the children. They deserve an education and when a mom without a college education claims she can do it through high school she is deluding herself and her kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why aren't home-educated children held to the same minimum standards as public school students? I'm European and it's illegal in almost all European countries. This is absurd.

You don't know that they aren't. Regulations vary by state.

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Anonymous wrote:They should have a bachelors degree at minimum. I agree with you OP.

Why?

Because teaching is a profession. A trade. Something that requires training and experience.

Why don't you try to pull your own teeth, in the privacy of your own home? There's no law that says that you can't!

+1

Only in the US is something like this legal.

Typical. I don't agree with it, we must make it illegal.

And which of your constitutional rights will you give up in return?

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Anonymous wrote:Call me crazy but I’m a little suspicious of what OP considers “stupid” given the arrogance and self-importance of many DCUMers. It’s highly possible the person that prompted the post is actually not stupid and OP is just a salty b****.

OP here. One of the mothers I attend church with and she brags about creatively gaming the Welfare system. She's 22 with 3 children and has not attended college. I volunteer in the nursery with her and the entire time she "plays" on her phone. She's a paid employee. The other mother has 5 children and her grammar is truly awful. Most of her teeth are missing. She says things like, "Turn them lights own or I ain’t never seed this before or Zat yo’ car?"

Why don't you move to DCUM territory and see how YOU stack up against the women here?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Homeschooler here. I know my own limitations, and would not attempt to teach high school level physics or chemistry to my own children... I'll send them to the local community college for those types of courses if I can not find an appropriate teacher/tutor among the homeschoolers that I know. When someone insinuates, however, that I'm not qualified to teach my six year old and nine year old children (after going through 12 years of public school and several semesters of college), then they are basically saying that the public school system taught me squat. Which, if that were true, would be one reason for not wanting one's own children in said system, right?

What? Saying you are not qualified to teach is not the same as saying the public school system taught you squat. My neighbor is very smart and well educated. She's a good attorney. But when I needed a root canal I didn't call her. Saying you are not qualified to do a certain job doesn't mean you are stupid or public school failed you. It means you are not qualified for every job.

Your logic is deeply flawed.

As is yours. Dp here. Teaching a child to read, write and learn and memorize basic math facts is not dental surgery level stuff. My children could do all three before they started kindergarten and, no, they weren't red shirted.

[Anonymous]

I was home-schooled by a mom who thought algebra should be saved until college b/c “you never use it in the real world” unless you’re an engineer or something.

There’s a few reasons why we started home-schooling, but the ideas all came from Focus on The Family magazines.

Thankfully I made it to college and have turned out ok, am gainfully employed. I am not anti-homeschooling but I definitely think more kids’ education suffer than are bettered.

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Anonymous wrote:Homeschooler here. I know my own limitations, and would not attempt to teach high school level physics or chemistry to my own children... I'll send them to the local community college for those types of courses if I can not find an appropriate teacher/tutor among the homeschoolers that I know. When someone insinuates, however, that I'm not qualified to teach my six year old and nine year old children (after going through 12 years of public school and several semesters of college), then they are basically saying that the public school system taught me squat. Which, if that were true, would be one reason for not wanting one's own children in said system, right?

What? Saying you are not qualified to teach is not the same as saying the public school system taught you squat. My neighbor is very smart and well educated. She's a good attorney. But when I needed a root canal I didn't call her. Saying you are not qualified to do a certain job doesn't mean you are stupid or public school failed you. It means you are not qualified for every job.

Your logic is deeply flawed.

What's flawed is your own logic and argument tactics. We're not asking an attorney to do a root canal. We're asking an educated mother to teach her six-year-old math. Of course she can do that. Most people can do that who have a basic education.

Reading is fundamental. Read what you responded to. She is not talking about a 6 year old, she is talking about chem and physics so she plans to continue through high school, genius. If you want to argue, please stay on topic.

Look people can do what they want with their kids. Smoke around them, feed them crap. It's America. I don't agree with it, but I recognize their right. All I'm asking for are some basic standards to protect the children. They deserve an education and when a mom without a college education claims she can do it through high school she is deluding herself and her kids.

SoCal here. I know a number of homeschooled child actors. Education is enough to get a GED around the age of 14-15. Some had to do some sections multiple times. Once older, some take classes in CC, some go to regular university, some never take non-acting related classes. They are definitely not a burden on society without high school chemistry or English. Not everyone is preparing for a job in a big corporation. When a D is a grade that's enough to graduate or play sports, not much value is in being in the system for those striving for D average.

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Anonymous wrote:Homeschooler here. I know my own limitations, and would not attempt to teach high school level physics or chemistry to my own children... I'll send them to the local community college for those types of courses if I can not find an appropriate teacher/tutor among the homeschoolers that I know. When someone insinuates, however, that I'm not qualified to teach my six year old and nine year old children (after going through 12 years of public school and several semesters of college), then they are basically saying that the public school system taught me squat. Which, if that were true, would be one reason for not wanting one's own children in said system, right?

What? Saying you are not qualified to teach is not the same as saying the public school system taught you squat. My neighbor is very smart and well educated. She's a good attorney. But when I needed a root canal I didn't call her. Saying you are not qualified to do a certain job doesn't mean you are stupid or public school failed you. It means you are not qualified for every job.

Your logic is deeply flawed.

What's flawed is your own logic and argument tactics. We're not asking an attorney to do a root canal. We're asking an educated mother to teach her six-year-old math. Of course she can do that. Most people can do that who have a basic education.

Reading is fundamental. Read what you responded to. She is not talking about a 6 year old, she is talking about chem and physics so she plans to continue through high school, genius. If you want to argue, please stay on topic.

Look people can do what they want with their kids. Smoke around them, feed them crap. It's America. I don't agree with it, but I recognize their right. All I'm asking for are some basic standards to protect the children. They deserve an education and when a mom without a college education claims she can do it through high school she is deluding herself and her kids.

SoCal here. I know a number of homeschooled child actors. Education is enough to get a GED around the age of 14-15. Some had to do some sections multiple times. Once older, some take classes in CC, some go to regular university, some never take non-acting related classes. They are definitely not a burden on society without high school chemistry or English. Not everyone is preparing for a job in a big corporation. When a D is a grade that's enough to graduate or play sports, not much value is in being in the system for those striving for D average.

Are you serious? We should not be using Jennifer Lawrence dropping out in middle school as the paradigm for why you don't need high school science or English. Disgusting.