RIP Johnson's -- Now let's move on

[Anonymous]

Ward 3 Vision's new agenda includes pushing changes to the DC Comprehensive Plan to enable the so-called "missing middle."

Anyone who lives within 6 blocks of a major street should pay attention to this, because it could mean up-zoning of single family residential streets for commercial use, "multiplex" apartment building, triplexes/quadplexes, etc. Here's an illustration of what Ward 3 Vision's vision entails -- expanding height and density off the major arterials and commercial districts into detached single family residential neighborhoods:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MMH_diagram_w_lables_for_sharing.jpg

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ward 3 Vision's new agenda includes pushing changes to the DC Comprehensive Plan to enable the so-called "missing middle."

Anyone who lives within 6 blocks of a major street should pay attention to this, because it could mean up-zoning of single family residential streets for commercial use, "multiplex" apartment building, triplexes/quadplexes, etc. Here's an illustration of what Ward 3 Vision's vision entails -- expanding height and density off the major arterials and commercial districts into detached single family residential neighborhoods:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MMH_diagram_w_lables_for_sharing.jpg

That is excellent. If you look at how Cleveland Park developed, there are high rises on the avenue and then the garden apartments, which are pretty high density despite being just 3 stories, and then it tapers to the single family homes. All of our metro neighborhoods should be like this. Thank you for sharing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ward 3 Vision's new agenda includes pushing changes to the DC Comprehensive Plan to enable the so-called "missing middle."

Anyone who lives within 6 blocks of a major street should pay attention to this, because it could mean up-zoning of single family residential streets for commercial use, "multiplex" apartment building, triplexes/quadplexes, etc. Here's an illustration of what Ward 3 Vision's vision entails -- expanding height and density off the major arterials and commercial districts into detached single family residential neighborhoods:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MMH_diagram_w_lables_for_sharing.jpg

That is excellent. If you look at how Cleveland Park developed, there are high rises on the avenue and then the garden apartments, which are pretty high density despite being just 3 stories, and then it tapers to the single family homes. All of our metro neighborhoods should be like this. Thank you for sharing.

Most of Cleveland Park's streets are single family homes. Their historic district likely would offer some protection if Ward 3 Vision gets its way. In Tenleytown, AU Park, Chevy Chase DC, which don't have an historic district or only have a very small one, it will become open season on tear-downs for denser development.

[Anonymous]

One thing that really turned me off about the post is the Ward 3 Vision spokesperson boasting about experience fighting against neighbors. That approach is sad to alarming, and suggests that Vision is just a shill for big $ development.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One thing that really turned me off about the post is the Ward 3 Vision spokesperson boasting about experience fighting against neighbors. That approach is sad to alarming, and suggests that Vision is just a shill for big $ development.

Except there are a lot of us who understand that if we want to continue to grow as a city and have affordable housing, then something has to give. You cannot encase every neighborhood in glass and say "no more" and expect the economy to grow without it getting even more expensive than it already is. One doesn't need to be part of Ward 3 Vision to understand and support that point of view.

It is myopic to think that is shilling for developers. Affordable housing advocates, transit advocates and environmental advocates all share the same view.

That developers are the conduits to take areas like the 5220 site and turn it into something more productive doesn't make them bad guys. Someone built your house, and before that, it was likely trees. Are they bad guys for having built that house, or are you a bad guy for living there now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ward 3 Vision's new agenda includes pushing changes to the DC Comprehensive Plan to enable the so-called "missing middle."

Anyone who lives within 6 blocks of a major street should pay attention to this, because it could mean up-zoning of single family residential streets for commercial use, "multiplex" apartment building, triplexes/quadplexes, etc. Here's an illustration of what Ward 3 Vision's vision entails -- expanding height and density off the major arterials and commercial districts into detached single family residential neighborhoods:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MMH_diagram_w_lables_for_sharing.jpg

That is excellent. If you look at how Cleveland Park developed, there are high rises on the avenue and then the garden apartments, which are pretty high density despite being just 3 stories, and then it tapers to the single family homes. All of our metro neighborhoods should be like this. Thank you for sharing.

Most of Cleveland Park's streets are single family homes. Their historic district likely would offer some protection if Ward 3 Vision gets its way. In Tenleytown, AU Park, Chevy Chase DC, which don't have an historic district or only have a very small one, it will become open season on tear-downs for denser development.

And it is focus on the transit corridors and it provides more housing opportunities, more retail opportunities, more jobs etc, then what is the issue? No one is proposing to raze existing single family neighborhoods.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ward 3 Vision's new agenda includes pushing changes to the DC Comprehensive Plan to enable the so-called "missing middle."

Anyone who lives within 6 blocks of a major street should pay attention to this, because it could mean up-zoning of single family residential streets for commercial use, "multiplex" apartment building, triplexes/quadplexes, etc. Here's an illustration of what Ward 3 Vision's vision entails -- expanding height and density off the major arterials and commercial districts into detached single family residential neighborhoods:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MMH_diagram_w_lables_for_sharing.jpg

That is excellent. If you look at how Cleveland Park developed, there are high rises on the avenue and then the garden apartments, which are pretty high density despite being just 3 stories, and then it tapers to the single family homes. All of our metro neighborhoods should be like this. Thank you for sharing.

Most of Cleveland Park's streets are single family homes. Their historic district likely would offer some protection if Ward 3 Vision gets its way. In Tenleytown, AU Park, Chevy Chase DC, which don't have an historic district or only have a very small one, it will become open season on tear-downs for denser development.

And it is focus on the transit corridors and it provides more housing opportunities, more retail opportunities, more jobs etc, then what is the issue? No one is proposing to raze existing single family neighborhoods.

In fact, that's exactly what they are proposing, through the Comprehensive Plan amendments. They would effectively expand the higher density commercial and mixed-use zones from currently .about one block of either side of the existing arterial corridors to several blocks into existing single family neighborhoods.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ward 3 Vision's new agenda includes pushing changes to the DC Comprehensive Plan to enable the so-called "missing middle."

Anyone who lives within 6 blocks of a major street should pay attention to this, because it could mean up-zoning of single family residential streets for commercial use, "multiplex" apartment building, triplexes/quadplexes, etc. Here's an illustration of what Ward 3 Vision's vision entails -- expanding height and density off the major arterials and commercial districts into detached single family residential neighborhoods:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MMH_diagram_w_lables_for_sharing.jpg

That is excellent. If you look at how Cleveland Park developed, there are high rises on the avenue and then the garden apartments, which are pretty high density despite being just 3 stories, and then it tapers to the single family homes. All of our metro neighborhoods should be like this. Thank you for sharing.

Most of Cleveland Park's streets are single family homes. Their historic district likely would offer some protection if Ward 3 Vision gets its way. In Tenleytown, AU Park, Chevy Chase DC, which don't have an historic district or only have a very small one, it will become open season on tear-downs for denser development.

And it is focus on the transit corridors and it provides more housing opportunities, more retail opportunities, more jobs etc, then what is the issue? No one is proposing to raze existing single family neighborhoods.

In fact, that's exactly what they are proposing, through the Comprehensive Plan amendments. They would effectively expand the higher density commercial and mixed-use zones from currently .about one block of either side of the existing arterial corridors to several blocks into existing single family neighborhoods.

This is provably untrue.

All of the comments & proposed Comp Plan amendments are here:

https://plandc.dc.gov/

Under the Proposed Amendments to the Text of the Comprehensive Plan During Open Call link and are easily searchable - please cite a single instance where someone proposed upzoning single family housing areas?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ward 3 Vision was exposed some years ago as an "astroturf" -- i.e, faux grass roots - organization that coordinates with large developers and real estate developers. When a major development project was proposed in Upper NW, a Ward 3 Vision leader wrote on what he thought was a private bulletin board that a local-seeming front group be formed to suggest public support for the project. He said that Ward 3 Vision was too controversial to be seen in the lead, but he offered behind the scenes help, writing that Ward 3 Vision had lots of experience in fighting against neighbors. Oops!

That was a story fraught with inaccuracies.

It is a 100% all volunteer group. There is no money involved with it whatsoever and the supporters chip in to put on events and what not.

Please provide proof of what big money is supporting the organization and who is receiving it.

From a 2008 W3V list serv posting:

"Hello Everyone:

I joined this listserve a few days ago though I live in Friendship
Heights but I have some experience fighting with neighbors about
development further up the corridor.

In April of 2007 I testified on behalf of Ward 3 Vision in favor of
the Akridge project at 5220 Wisconsin Avenue.

So I am posting to offer the option of Ward 3 Vision testifying on
behalf of this project as well and I also think it is a good idea
that you create a local group to seek party status at the PUD hearing.

The only real concern I would have about Ward 3 Vision testifying is
that if everyone decides they would support and want that is that we
would need to find someone who lives close by to actually testify....most of our
activist members live in Friendship Heights."

This is your smoking gun? LOL - are you getting your advice from Devin Nunes?

So someone from Ward 3 Vision suggested that someone local get involved in something in their neighborhood and somehow that is a grand conspiracy? I mean the email specifically suggests that someone local be the lead in advocating for something local - I'm really struggling to grasp the problem here? Is what this person suggested any different than what the folks trying to get Johnson's reopened are doing?

[Anonymous]

It's amazing how so-called Ward 3 liberals are actually self-centered conservatives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how so-called Ward 3 liberals are actually self-centered conservatives.

And it's amazing how many pretend-progressives are actually shills for Trump-like Big Development, Inc. Like there's a guy who's running against Phil Mendelson as a self-styled liberal progressive, and he's already raised a big campaign chest... from development interests who feel that Mendelson asks too many hard questions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how so-called Ward 3 liberals are actually self-centered conservatives.

And it's amazing how many pretend-progressives are actually shills for Trump-like Big Development, Inc. Like there's a guy who's running against Phil Mendelson as a self-styled liberal progressive, and he's already raised a big campaign chest... from development interests who feel that Mendelson asks too many hard questions.

Just because someone believes that more housing, more retail and a broader tax base is good for the city and neighborhood doesn't make them a shill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how so-called Ward 3 liberals are actually self-centered conservatives.

And it's amazing how many pretend-progressives are actually shills for Trump-like Big Development, Inc. Like there's a guy who's running against Phil Mendelson as a self-styled liberal progressive, and he's already raised a big campaign chest... from development interests who feel that Mendelson asks too many hard questions.

Just because someone believes that more housing, more retail and a broader tax base is good for the city and neighborhood doesn't make them a shill.

DC is already over-retailed. And Mendelson is second to none on sound tax planning on the counsel.

But go ahead, take your marching orders from JBG and Roadside.

[Anonymous]

Council, not counsel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how so-called Ward 3 liberals are actually self-centered conservatives.

And it's amazing how many pretend-progressives are actually shills for Trump-like Big Development, Inc. Like there's a guy who's running against Phil Mendelson as a self-styled liberal progressive, and he's already raised a big campaign chest... from development interests who feel that Mendelson asks too many hard questions.

Just because someone believes that more housing, more retail and a broader tax base is good for the city and neighborhood doesn't make them a shill.

DC is already over-retailed. And Mendelson is second to none on sound tax planning on the counsel.

But go ahead, take your marching orders from JBG and Roadside.

I happen to support Mendelson 100%. And I support the evil views of Ward 3 Vision 100%

What does that make me?