Shooting at Blake

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to make some kind of MCPS zero tolerance policy for vaping, weapons, fighting, horrible behavior, etc. Zero tolerance, kid is expelled.

Don't know if it's possible, but the current status of so much is beyond insane and completely unacceptable

I don't think that's likely, but I do strongly believe in more utilization for alternative placements for kids who exhibit such dangerous behaviors. We need a Mark Twain-style alternative school to put such children. And they can return to their home schools if they complete a successful rehabilitation and restorative plan or treatment.

We have an Alternative School…it is called Blair G. Ewing. While it separates offenders from the general ed schools, it generally has poor outcomes.

No doubt, but there are two separate questions:

1. Can it be improved
2. Is it better than other existin options

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does the food deliveries have to do with the shooting? Was the shooter a food delivery driver? (That would just seem so unlikely...).

I have had kids at two different schools with open lunch and I VERY much hope they don't cancel open lunch. It would be an utter sh*t show to try to feel all those kids in the overcrowded building. Being able to exit the building to get food is a really important part of being able to focus for afternoon classes for many kids.

I don't know what happened today, but basically every time one of these shootings has happened, it has been some beef from the community where someone came to find the teen at school because they knew that's where to find them. Of course, I'm sure these kids aren't crack shots, so even when it's that kind of situation, there's always a good chance that they will hit someone other than the intended victim.

Someone asked what SROs could do -- one of the goals of the SRO program was to be tapped into the school community so that if some student became aware that a beef was brewing, they could alert the SRO who could then just happen to be present at the right time/place to avert the issue. Of course, this didn't happen 100% of the time, but it did happen at least sometimes --- and the public never heard about the fights that didn't happen because an SRO was standing there in the right place at the right time. Of course, gun control would be the most effective way to minimize school shootings, but the Supreme Court has said we can't have that in this country.

Also, the current ID system is a joke. I don't know how hard it would be to install ID readers at the entrances to all the high schools, like what most people have at their offices now. So even if you are going out to a portable, you would have to swipe to get back into the building.

Instead of prohibiting kids from eating lunch outside, why not work on better security measures to prevent randos from coming on campus to start fights with students?

The fights are coming from inside the building

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to make some kind of MCPS zero tolerance policy for vaping, weapons, fighting, horrible behavior, etc. Zero tolerance, kid is expelled.

Don't know if it's possible, but the current status of so much is beyond insane and completely unacceptable

I don't think that's likely, but I do strongly believe in more utilization for alternative placements for kids who exhibit such dangerous behaviors. We need a Mark Twain-style alternative school to put such children. And they can return to their home schools if they complete a successful rehabilitation and restorative plan or treatment.

We have an Alternative School…it is called Blair G. Ewing. While it separates offenders from the general ed schools, it generally has poor outcomes.

No doubt, but there are two separate questions:

1. Can it be improved
2. Is it better than other existin options

It could be a model program, but it lacks strong building-level and central-level leadership and commitment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Confirming that the 19 year old was a former Blake HS student. Hence why he was at the school to pick up a friend. He has ties to the Blake community and is known by many seniors.

Furthermore, the gun likely belonged to the student was shot. Which might mean he had the gun on him while he was in school.

Another thing: apparently the principal has been allowing students to eat lunch in their cars in the parking lot. So the reason why the kids were congregating in the parking lot was because the principal has been allowing them to spend lunch there. That seems like a really bone-headed call for him to have made.

I think that’s common in many HS. There isn’t really room in the cafeteria for people to eat. Our schools are very overcrowded.
I’m not really sure the solution. I think one issue is that when I was in HS, you could drop out after 16, so I think some of these kids that just didn’t want to be in school weren’t in school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Confirming that the 19 year old was a former Blake HS student. Hence why he was at the school to pick up a friend. He has ties to the Blake community and is known by many seniors.

Furthermore, the gun likely belonged to the student was shot. Which might mean he had the gun on him while he was in school.

Another thing: apparently the principal has been allowing students to eat lunch in their cars in the parking lot. So the reason why the kids were congregating in the parking lot was because the principal has been allowing them to spend lunch there. That seems like a really bone-headed call for him to have made.

I think that’s common in many HS. There isn’t really room in the cafeteria for people to eat. Our schools are very overcrowded.
I’m not really sure the solution. I think one issue is that when I was in HS, you could drop out after 16, so I think some of these kids that just didn’t want to be in school weren’t in school.

They still can drop out. Many of them choose not to because there's no real consequences for students who walk the halls all day. Why stay home by yourself all day when you can go and hang out with your buddies and "customers" all day with no worries?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Confirming that the 19 year old was a former Blake HS student. Hence why he was at the school to pick up a friend. He has ties to the Blake community and is known by many seniors.

Furthermore, the gun likely belonged to the student was shot. Which might mean he had the gun on him while he was in school.

Another thing: apparently the principal has been allowing students to eat lunch in their cars in the parking lot. So the reason why the kids were congregating in the parking lot was because the principal has been allowing them to spend lunch there. That seems like a really bone-headed call for him to have made.

I think that’s common in many HS. There isn’t really room in the cafeteria for people to eat. Our schools are very overcrowded.
I’m not really sure the solution. I think one issue is that when I was in HS, you could drop out after 16, so I think some of these kids that just didn’t want to be in school weren’t in school.

They still can drop out. Many of them choose not to because there's no real consequences for students who walk the halls all day. Why stay home by yourself all day when you can go and hang out with your buddies and "customers" all day with no worries?

Well, this would require MCPS to acknowledge student drug dealing is a thing, which MCPS refuses to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Confirming that the 19 year old was a former Blake HS student. Hence why he was at the school to pick up a friend. He has ties to the Blake community and is known by many seniors.

Furthermore, the gun likely belonged to the student was shot. Which might mean he had the gun on him while he was in school.

Another thing: apparently the principal has been allowing students to eat lunch in their cars in the parking lot. So the reason why the kids were congregating in the parking lot was because the principal has been allowing them to spend lunch there. That seems like a really bone-headed call for him to have made.

I think that’s common in many HS. There isn’t really room in the cafeteria for people to eat. Our schools are very overcrowded.
I’m not really sure the solution. I think one issue is that when I was in HS, you could drop out after 16, so I think some of these kids that just didn’t want to be in school weren’t in school.

Outside of MCPs there are high schools that schedule multiple lunches. Easy to combine lunch and advisory into one period to at least split lunches into 2.

In 2027, almost every HS building will have reduced enrollment due to the boundary changes and opening of Woodward. Seems like a great time to go back to closed lunches.

[Anonymous]

Given that the 17yo probably had the gun on him all morning INSIDE the school, the problem wasn't that they had lunch outside. Prohibiting outside lunch doesnt help the violence issue and doesnt keep our kids safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Confirming that the 19 year old was a former Blake HS student. Hence why he was at the school to pick up a friend. He has ties to the Blake community and is known by many seniors.

Furthermore, the gun likely belonged to the student was shot. Which might mean he had the gun on him while he was in school.

Another thing: apparently the principal has been allowing students to eat lunch in their cars in the parking lot. So the reason why the kids were congregating in the parking lot was because the principal has been allowing them to spend lunch there. That seems like a really bone-headed call for him to have made.

I think that’s common in many HS. There isn’t really room in the cafeteria for people to eat. Our schools are very overcrowded.
I’m not really sure the solution. I think one issue is that when I was in HS, you could drop out after 16, so I think some of these kids that just didn’t want to be in school weren’t in school.

Outside of MCPs there are high schools that schedule multiple lunches. Easy to combine lunch and advisory into one period to at least split lunches into 2.

In 2027, almost every HS building will have reduced enrollment due to the boundary changes and opening of Woodward. Seems like a great time to go back to closed lunches.

2027 will have no bearing on the NEC schools. Yes they will add Sherwood to the region but that won't make any of the schools less crowded in that region.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Given that the 17yo probably had the gun on him all morning INSIDE the school, the problem wasn't that they had lunch outside. Prohibiting outside lunch doesnt help the violence issue and doesnt keep our kids safe.

Agree with this. Talking about open lunch is like saying “gee, maybe if we shift some weight to the other side the boat won’t sink” on the titanic. The lunch isn’t the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Confirming that the 19 year old was a former Blake HS student. Hence why he was at the school to pick up a friend. He has ties to the Blake community and is known by many seniors.

Furthermore, the gun likely belonged to the student was shot. Which might mean he had the gun on him while he was in school.

Another thing: apparently the principal has been allowing students to eat lunch in their cars in the parking lot. So the reason why the kids were congregating in the parking lot was because the principal has been allowing them to spend lunch there. That seems like a really bone-headed call for him to have made.

I think that’s common in many HS. There isn’t really room in the cafeteria for people to eat. Our schools are very overcrowded.
I’m not really sure the solution. I think one issue is that when I was in HS, you could drop out after 16, so I think some of these kids that just didn’t want to be in school weren’t in school.

Outside of MCPs there are high schools that schedule multiple lunches. Easy to combine lunch and advisory into one period to at least split lunches into 2.

In 2027, almost every HS building will have reduced enrollment due to the boundary changes and opening of Woodward. Seems like a great time to go back to closed lunches.

The reasons that there is one lunch period is for clubs can meet and so kids can meet with teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Given that the 17yo probably had the gun on him all morning INSIDE the school, the problem wasn't that they had lunch outside. Prohibiting outside lunch doesnt help the violence issue and doesnt keep our kids safe.

This is what I’d like an answer to. Did Wilson have the gun on him in school all Wednesday morning? Was it in his car or someone’s car?

Signed,
A Blake teacher

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Confirming that the 19 year old was a former Blake HS student. Hence why he was at the school to pick up a friend. He has ties to the Blake community and is known by many seniors.

Furthermore, the gun likely belonged to the student was shot. Which might mean he had the gun on him while he was in school.

Another thing: apparently the principal has been allowing students to eat lunch in their cars in the parking lot. So the reason why the kids were congregating in the parking lot was because the principal has been allowing them to spend lunch there. That seems like a really bone-headed call for him to have made.

I think that’s common in many HS. There isn’t really room in the cafeteria for people to eat. Our schools are very overcrowded.
I’m not really sure the solution. I think one issue is that when I was in HS, you could drop out after 16, so I think some of these kids that just didn’t want to be in school weren’t in school.

Outside of MCPs there are high schools that schedule multiple lunches. Easy to combine lunch and advisory into one period to at least split lunches into 2.

In 2027, almost every HS building will have reduced enrollment due to the boundary changes and opening of Woodward. Seems like a great time to go back to closed lunches.

The reasons that there is one lunch period is for clubs can meet and so kids can meet with teachers.

We need to go back doing both of those things after school.

Lunch needs to be lunch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Given that the 17yo probably had the gun on him all morning INSIDE the school, the problem wasn't that they had lunch outside. Prohibiting outside lunch doesnt help the violence issue and doesnt keep our kids safe.

This is what I’d like an answer to. Did Wilson have the gun on him in school all Wednesday morning? Was it in his car or someone’s car?

Signed,
A Blake teacher

Have you asked your principal this question?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Confirming that the 19 year old was a former Blake HS student. Hence why he was at the school to pick up a friend. He has ties to the Blake community and is known by many seniors.

Furthermore, the gun likely belonged to the student was shot. Which might mean he had the gun on him while he was in school.

Another thing: apparently the principal has been allowing students to eat lunch in their cars in the parking lot. So the reason why the kids were congregating in the parking lot was because the principal has been allowing them to spend lunch there. That seems like a really bone-headed call for him to have made.

I think that’s common in many HS. There isn’t really room in the cafeteria for people to eat. Our schools are very overcrowded.
I’m not really sure the solution. I think one issue is that when I was in HS, you could drop out after 16, so I think some of these kids that just didn’t want to be in school weren’t in school.

Outside of MCPs there are high schools that schedule multiple lunches. Easy to combine lunch and advisory into one period to at least split lunches into 2.

In 2027, almost every HS building will have reduced enrollment due to the boundary changes and opening of Woodward. Seems like a great time to go back to closed lunches.

Mcps used to have multiple lunch times.