Chat GPT for Teachers - seriously

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Anonymous wrote:She touts “at no cost.” Reid just sold FCPS. if you're not paying for the product, you are the product.”

+1. OpenAI is not trustworthy. Should have signed up with Khan Academy if they wanted AI. Very poor decision making.

Khan Academy uses OpenAI

https://news.microsoft.com/source/features/ai/khan-academy-and-microsoft-partner-to-expand-access-to-ai-tools/

This article mentions a partnership with Microsoft, not OpenAI. Also, Khan Academy has AI products with safety and privacy guardrails. And it’s a nonprofit.

Microsoft Copilot is OpenAI.

Getting distracted. No matter who owns, a wrong choice by FCPS.

No, you tried to distract with Microsoft saying that it was fine not knowing the technology. It’s the same technology.

It’s not the wrong choice. It’s the right direction.

A responsible organization makes a difference. It’s not just about the technology. It’s also about the safeguards and guardrails used by an entity. And OpenAI is the opposite of a responsible company. Of course, it sounds like a teachers union created a partnership with this rogue company, so they’re the ones most at fault.

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The “I support teaching students how to use AI responsibly” argument is very naive. For years we’ve been told that kids need to learn how to use tech this or tech that so they don’t get left behind. The data from this experiment, however, is showing that the very thing we were told was necessary for advancement has actually hurt our kids ability to think and perform at high academic levels. Furthermore, are we really dumb enough to believe our teachers can effectively teach kids how to use AI responsibility”? What does that even mean?

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Anonymous wrote:The “I support teaching students how to use AI responsibly” argument is very naive. For years we’ve been told that kids need to learn how to use tech this or tech that so they don’t get left behind. The data from this experiment, however, is showing that the very thing we were told was necessary for advancement has actually hurt our kids ability to think and perform at high academic levels. Furthermore, are we really dumb enough to believe our teachers can effectively teach kids how to use AI responsibility”? What does that even mean?

And again: it’s here. Scream into the wind all you want, saying you don’t like it and that students are dumber for using it. That’s not going to stop them, nor is it going to stop universities and workplaces from using it.

I may be “just” a teacher in your eyes, and therefore I must lack the intelligence to know how to use something effectively. Still, I want my own children to know how to use it effectively and ethically. We used it at home the other night to create practice tests for my kid’s chemistry class. We used material from her study guide to create the test, and then she sat at the table and practiced. That’s effective and ethical use. She knows that. She also knows not to use it for an English essay. See? It can be taught, even by an unintelligent person like me.

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Why openai vs other companies?

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Anonymous wrote:Why openai vs other companies?

OpenAI is willing to front the licenses for a year to hook their mark. Look for property tax increases next year to cover the multi-million dollar annual license fees going forward.

There is no free lunch, although it looks like FCPS plans to offer one to everyone next year.

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Anonymous wrote:The “I support teaching students how to use AI responsibly” argument is very naive. For years we’ve been told that kids need to learn how to use tech this or tech that so they don’t get left behind. The data from this experiment, however, is showing that the very thing we were told was necessary for advancement has actually hurt our kids ability to think and perform at high academic levels. Furthermore, are we really dumb enough to believe our teachers can effectively teach kids how to use AI responsibility”? What does that even mean?

And again: it’s here. Scream into the wind all you want, saying you don’t like it and that students are dumber for using it. That’s not going to stop them, nor is it going to stop universities and workplaces from using it.

I may be “just” a teacher in your eyes, and therefore I must lack the intelligence to know how to use something effectively. Still, I want my own children to know how to use it effectively and ethically. We used it at home the other night to create practice tests for my kid’s chemistry class. We used material from her study guide to create the test, and then she sat at the table and practiced. That’s effective and ethical use. She knows that. She also knows not to use it for an English essay. See? It can be taught, even by an unintelligent person like me.

And using chat added to emissions and damage to environment, but hey, so long as kid got an A

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Anonymous wrote:Those who don't welcome LLM and AI will be left behind and so will your children.

Those who do will also be left behind and so will be their children. That’s the beauty of the moment.

Okay enjoy your typewriter.

I use AI daily that’s why I don’t want it near my child outside of a specific window dedicated to learning about it which is not what’s on the table.
And I don’t want my kids data to be fed to AI which it 100% will without my or their consent.

Please you are feeding your kids data to AI all day long with their location, demographics, etc.

This AI does less than what you do.

I do what I want with my data. I’m actually pretty paranoid about it but that’s not the point. FCPS for sure is doing what I don’t want it to do with my and even more so my children’s data. I have no option to opt out and I definitely don’t want more of that. I’m horrified that iPads are used as early as kindergarten. I hate that hours a day are spent in edtech apps monitoring and recording every click. I didn’t consent to this. I Didn’t consent to this data to then be passed to light speed, yet another platform linking me, my children and every click they make. Like all those apps that FCPS uses already have an account for me against my will. I want less of it not more.

Your data is used every time you do a Google search, or walk into a store with your phone, or use your credit card, or drive your car, I’ll go to a doctors appointment, or walk into a CVS, or have something delivered to your house.

You’re not consenting to all this it’s being taken from you and it has been for decades.

You don’t see the difference between an adult making decisions about their life and a kindergartener with a public school provided iPad who is mandated to spend whatever amount of time doing edtech?

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Anonymous wrote:Those who don't welcome LLM and AI will be left behind and so will your children.

Those who do will also be left behind and so will be their children. That’s the beauty of the moment.

Okay enjoy your typewriter.

I use AI daily that’s why I don’t want it near my child outside of a specific window dedicated to learning about it which is not what’s on the table.
And I don’t want my kids data to be fed to AI which it 100% will without my or their consent.

Please you are feeding your kids data to AI all day long with their location, demographics, etc.

This AI does less than what you do.

I do what I want with my data. I’m actually pretty paranoid about it but that’s not the point. FCPS for sure is doing what I don’t want it to do with my and even more so my children’s data. I have no option to opt out and I definitely don’t want more of that. I’m horrified that iPads are used as early as kindergarten. I hate that hours a day are spent in edtech apps monitoring and recording every click. I didn’t consent to this. I Didn’t consent to this data to then be passed to light speed, yet another platform linking me, my children and every click they make. Like all those apps that FCPS uses already have an account for me against my will. I want less of it not more.

Your data is used every time you do a Google search, or walk into a store with your phone, or use your credit card, or drive your car, I’ll go to a doctors appointment, or walk into a CVS, or have something delivered to your house.

You’re not consenting to all this it’s being taken from you and it has been for decades.

You don’t see the difference between an adult making decisions about their life and a kindergartener with a public school provided iPad who is mandated to spend whatever amount of time doing edtech?

I haven’t read much but I teach kindergarten and I have no idea what this would even look like. LOL we can barely get the handle on Lexia and ST math.

Also I don’t know how teachers are using it to plan lessons. 90% of my planning is hands on and visual things I have to make and prepare myself.

I know the upper grades are using AI to grade benchmark essays.

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Anonymous wrote:Can you please leave teachers alone and let them teach the kids instead of trailblazing any paths?! Then they will require another monthly early release for teachers to train AI

Bingo

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Anonymous wrote:Why openai vs other companies?

OpenAI is willing to front the licenses for a year to hook their mark. Look for property tax increases next year to cover the multi-million dollar annual license fees going forward.

There is no free lunch, although it looks like FCPS plans to offer one to everyone next year.

OpenAI is seeking high-quality teacher and classroom data, which its current models lack. By partnering with school systems across the U.S.—including but not limited to FCPS—OpenAI can access richer, real-world educational inputs. These partnerships are designed to help improve the instructional accuracy, classroom relevance, and overall educational effectiveness of their LLMs.

The wild card is if school districts start doing what some private schools have done--reduce teacher hiring and remove teachers from classrooms. It may be a long-term plan to deal with teacher shortages, which indirectly will influence the rate of teacher pay progress in the US.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Why openai vs other companies?

OpenAI is willing to front the licenses for a year to hook their mark. Look for property tax increases next year to cover the multi-million dollar annual license fees going forward.

There is no free lunch, although it looks like FCPS plans to offer one to everyone next year.

OpenAI is seeking high-quality teacher and classroom data, which its current models lack. By partnering with school systems across the U.S.—including but not limited to FCPS—OpenAI can access richer, real-world educational inputs. These partnerships are designed to help improve the instructional accuracy, classroom relevance, and overall educational effectiveness of their LLMs.

The wild card is if school districts start doing what some private schools have done--reduce teacher hiring and remove teachers from classrooms. It may be a long-term plan to deal with teacher shortages, which indirectly will influence the rate of teacher pay progress in the US.

WaPo reports that over a dozen school districts are in this pilot group.

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Anonymous wrote:Why openai vs other companies?

OpenAI is willing to front the licenses for a year to hook their mark. Look for property tax increases next year to cover the multi-million dollar annual license fees going forward.

There is no free lunch, although it looks like FCPS plans to offer one to everyone next year.

OpenAI is seeking high-quality teacher and classroom data, which its current models lack. By partnering with school systems across the U.S.—including but not limited to FCPS—OpenAI can access richer, real-world educational inputs. These partnerships are designed to help improve the instructional accuracy, classroom relevance, and overall educational effectiveness of their LLMs.

The wild card is if school districts start doing what some private schools have done--reduce teacher hiring and remove teachers from classrooms. It may be a long-term plan to deal with teacher shortages, which indirectly will influence the rate of teacher pay progress in the US.

It's not a wild card. That will happen. Larger classes too.

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The Alpha School has dominated headlines lately on using AI-based mastery-focused learning in classrooms and drastically reducing teacher:student ratio, gearing kids up for micro-learning opportunities that turn into mastery-focused instruction. Also, backed by all the MAGA tech-bros, from Attia to Liemandt to Theil to Karp to Andreesen to Sacks ... the list is looooong.

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Yes, the medium term forecast for schools will drastically reduce the number of teachers and lean in AI individual learning with babysitters in the room. Public education costs will go down as teachers won’t be necessary in large numbers. Of course, I am sure FCPS will still feel the need for a gigantic central office.

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its pretty neat.