Proactive Policing

[Anonymous]

This traffic stop in Arlington took a dealer off the streets.

https://www.arlnow.com/2025/10/06/acpd-large-sum-of-cash-recovered-in-south-arlington-drug-arrest/

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Anonymous wrote:David Simon (The Corner, the Wire) put forth an thought-provoking point: bad policies aren't the problem in policing, bad police are the problem.

Is proactive policing bad policing?

If a person in a car with tinted windows makes an illegal turn at 2:15 a.m., and they get pulled over, what ancillary offenses would you like police to ignore?

Unlicensed operator
Uninsured vehicle
Unregistered vehicle
DUI
Drug possession
Drug possession with intent to distribute
Open container
Warrant for arrest
Illegal possession of a firearm
Stolen credit cards
Stolen merchandise

Why isn't an offense for an officer to NOT pull someone over at 4pm for speeding?

Why are the police chasing petty criminals around at 2:15am instead of arresting wage thieves and union busters at noon?

What makes you think they don’t pull over speeders at 4pm? Spoiler alert, they do.

Why should the county arrest someone for trying to run a business? Do you see them arresting 7-Eleven owners because they are open late at night?

Can you better explain your point?

Selling drugs that should have been legalized long ago shouldn't be a crime. Someone out at 2:15am making a living isn't a crime unless you want to start arresting everyone running a business late at night.

Have you ever actually lived in an area with drug problems? I do. Yes, police should be seeking out and arresting them. The crime where I live, including violent crime, is out of control. Last year someone killed a toddler to hide drugs in their body. Twice, I’ve stumbled across young men who OD’d, including at the playground I was taking my kids to. Cannabis is legal here, and I’ve known a couple people with family members who struck pedestrians while driving high.

Even if drugs were legalized, zero reason for people to have a business driving them around. We don’t have businesses randomly driving people cigarettes and alcohol. There are regulations and licensing.

It’s not running a business. It literally ruins people’s lives.

If you legalized drugs no one would be killing toddlers to hide drugs. DUI is the problem, not the drugs. ODs from tainted drugs is due to an underground market that isn't regulated. Legalization would solve these problems. Arresting people for driving around at 2:15am isn't going to solve anything.

Exactly! DUI is the problem. How do we find people driving under the influence? By pulling them over when they are doing things like making illegal turns, because that indicates someone is under the influence.

I’m not really sure what fantasy world you live in where we can magically identify people driving under the influence if they can’t be pulled over for behaving like someone driving under the influence. Do you suggest we wait until the hit and kill someone instead?

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Anonymous wrote:David Simon (The Corner, the Wire) put forth an thought-provoking point: bad policies aren't the problem in policing, bad police are the problem.

Is proactive policing bad policing?

If a person in a car with tinted windows makes an illegal turn at 2:15 a.m., and they get pulled over, what ancillary offenses would you like police to ignore?

Unlicensed operator
Uninsured vehicle
Unregistered vehicle
DUI
Drug possession
Drug possession with intent to distribute
Open container
Warrant for arrest
Illegal possession of a firearm
Stolen credit cards
Stolen merchandise

Why isn't an offense for an officer to NOT pull someone over at 4pm for speeding?

Why are the police chasing petty criminals around at 2:15am instead of arresting wage thieves and union busters at noon?

What makes you think they don’t pull over speeders at 4pm? Spoiler alert, they do.

Why should the county arrest someone for trying to run a business? Do you see them arresting 7-Eleven owners because they are open late at night?

Can you better explain your point?

Selling drugs that should have been legalized long ago shouldn't be a crime. Someone out at 2:15am making a living isn't a crime unless you want to start arresting everyone running a business late at night.

Have you ever actually lived in an area with drug problems? I do. Yes, police should be seeking out and arresting them. The crime where I live, including violent crime, is out of control. Last year someone killed a toddler to hide drugs in their body. Twice, I’ve stumbled across young men who OD’d, including at the playground I was taking my kids to. Cannabis is legal here, and I’ve known a couple people with family members who struck pedestrians while driving high.

Even if drugs were legalized, zero reason for people to have a business driving them around. We don’t have businesses randomly driving people cigarettes and alcohol. There are regulations and licensing.

It’s not running a business. It literally ruins people’s lives.

If you legalized drugs no one would be killing toddlers to hide drugs. DUI is the problem, not the drugs. ODs from tainted drugs is due to an underground market that isn't regulated. Legalization would solve these problems. Arresting people for driving around at 2:15am isn't going to solve anything.

Exactly! DUI is the problem. How do we find people driving under the influence? By pulling them over when they are doing things like making illegal turns, because that indicates someone is under the influence.

I’m not really sure what fantasy world you live in where we can magically identify people driving under the influence if they can’t be pulled over for behaving like someone driving under the influence. Do you suggest we wait until the hit and kill someone instead?

DUI should be addressed before the crime is committed. A public campaign to raise awareness of the issue should be all that's necessary. Going after people driving around at 2:15am seems like it is targeting minorities.

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Anonymous wrote:David Simon (The Corner, the Wire) put forth an thought-provoking point: bad policies aren't the problem in policing, bad police are the problem.

Is proactive policing bad policing?

If a person in a car with tinted windows makes an illegal turn at 2:15 a.m., and they get pulled over, what ancillary offenses would you like police to ignore?

Unlicensed operator
Uninsured vehicle
Unregistered vehicle
DUI
Drug possession
Drug possession with intent to distribute
Open container
Warrant for arrest
Illegal possession of a firearm
Stolen credit cards
Stolen merchandise

Why isn't an offense for an officer to NOT pull someone over at 4pm for speeding?

Why are the police chasing petty criminals around at 2:15am instead of arresting wage thieves and union busters at noon?

What makes you think they don’t pull over speeders at 4pm? Spoiler alert, they do.

Why should the county arrest someone for trying to run a business? Do you see them arresting 7-Eleven owners because they are open late at night?

Can you better explain your point?

Selling drugs that should have been legalized long ago shouldn't be a crime. Someone out at 2:15am making a living isn't a crime unless you want to start arresting everyone running a business late at night.

Have you ever actually lived in an area with drug problems? I do. Yes, police should be seeking out and arresting them. The crime where I live, including violent crime, is out of control. Last year someone killed a toddler to hide drugs in their body. Twice, I’ve stumbled across young men who OD’d, including at the playground I was taking my kids to. Cannabis is legal here, and I’ve known a couple people with family members who struck pedestrians while driving high.

Even if drugs were legalized, zero reason for people to have a business driving them around. We don’t have businesses randomly driving people cigarettes and alcohol. There are regulations and licensing.

It’s not running a business. It literally ruins people’s lives.

If you legalized drugs no one would be killing toddlers to hide drugs. DUI is the problem, not the drugs. ODs from tainted drugs is due to an underground market that isn't regulated. Legalization would solve these problems. Arresting people for driving around at 2:15am isn't going to solve anything.

Exactly! DUI is the problem. How do we find people driving under the influence? By pulling them over when they are doing things like making illegal turns, because that indicates someone is under the influence.

I’m not really sure what fantasy world you live in where we can magically identify people driving under the influence if they can’t be pulled over for behaving like someone driving under the influence. Do you suggest we wait until the hit and kill someone instead?

DUI should be addressed before the crime is committed. A public campaign to raise awareness of the issue should be all that's necessary. Going after people driving around at 2:15am seems like it is targeting minorities.

Yes, very easy to target minorities at 2 am when driving down the street. Lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:AI can’t replace the law enforcement function, but it is already being utilized to aggregate and analyze data to better focus efforts towards locations that warrant a reallocation of resources. That should benefit the law abiding citizens in areas that the police plus up their efforts. Hopefully technology and its utilization continues to evolve in a way that helps provide greater public safety.

Tie the AI into all the cameras in place, put a police robot on every corner, can cover 24x7x365. Use the video evidence of crime and transmit to all robots, find perpetrator, eliminate perpetrator, clean simple efficient.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:AI can’t replace the law enforcement function, but it is already being utilized to aggregate and analyze data to better focus efforts towards locations that warrant a reallocation of resources. That should benefit the law abiding citizens in areas that the police plus up their efforts. Hopefully technology and its utilization continues to evolve in a way that helps provide greater public safety.

Tie the AI into all the cameras in place, put a police robot on every corner, can cover 24x7x365. Use the video evidence of crime and transmit to all robots, find perpetrator, eliminate perpetrator, clean simple efficient.

Richard Jones approves.

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Anonymous wrote:People worry about illegal guns on the streets. A lot of those guns that are confiscated by police come from pretextual traffic stops. Proactive policing saves lives.

There is no such thing as an "illegal firearm" in US law. Only illegal "posession" exists.

A Glock handgun with an auto sear is, in fact, an illegal firearm.

I prefer to think of it as an undocumented firearm.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:David Simon (The Corner, the Wire) put forth an thought-provoking point: bad policies aren't the problem in policing, bad police are the problem.

In the next few years the combination of AI, Shot Spotter, internal police reports, FBI UCR data and publicly available news articles will make proactive policing so dialed in that it should have a meaningful impact within neighborhoods that are most impacted by assault/aggravated assault/homicide.

And then white liberals will declare it racist and will move heaven and earth to get it abolished.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here’s a daytime traffic stop that uncovered a stolen firearm with an altered serial number.

https://patch.com/virginia/arlington-va/weapon-charges-filed-against-md-man-arlington-police

If it had an altered serial number, how did they know it was stolen? If it was post-1968 mfg, then it's very likely it is stolen or was at one time.
Fun fact, firearms made pre-1968 with altered numbers is ok.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s a daytime traffic stop that uncovered a stolen firearm with an altered serial number.

https://patch.com/virginia/arlington-va/weapon-charges-filed-against-md-man-arlington-police

If it had an altered serial number, how did they know it was stolen? If it was post-1968 mfg, then it's very likely it is stolen or was at one time.
Fun fact, firearms made pre-1968 with altered numbers is ok.

Thanks Sherlock, I know the laws. Maybe the super criminal tried to remove the serial number and did a bad job. Whatever, a stolen gun was recovered and a bad guy arrested, good job by the police.

[Anonymous]

Below is a link to a podcast about proactive policing.

Key takeaways:

Officers need more than traffic stops in their toolkit: Proactive policing must go beyond generalized patrols. Officers need a diverse set of strategies — including problem-solving, community engagement and data-driven targeting — tailored to specific crime types and neighborhood needs.

Infrastructure and leadership support are essential: Effective proactivity isn’t possible without structural support. Departments must revise CAD systems, reward proactive behavior, provide mentorship and ensure consistent supervision at all ranks to encourage evidence-based practices.

Real deterrence comes from smarter engagement, not just presence: The “4 Gs” — go to, get out, go up to and go in — guide effective hotspot policing. Short, focused engagements can create a halo effect of deterrence, especially when officers return unpredictably and with purpose.

Technology is only as good as the strategy behind it: Tools like real time crime centers and crime analysis software can support proactive policing, but only if agencies use them strategically rather than reactively. Investing in analysts and integrating information is key.

Policing is an intellectual profession: To be truly proactive, officers must think critically, solve complex problems and engage communities empathetically. Evidence-based policing empowers officers with the knowledge and mindset to do just that — and it starts with a willingness to be open, learn and lead.

https://www.police1.com/patrol-issues/how-proactive-policing-can-move-forward-an-evidence-based-roadmap

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Anonymous wrote:David Simon (The Corner, the Wire) put forth an thought-provoking point: bad policies aren't the problem in policing, bad police are the problem.

Is proactive policing bad policing?

If a person in a car with tinted windows makes an illegal turn at 2:15 a.m., and they get pulled over, what ancillary offenses would you like police to ignore?

Unlicensed operator
Uninsured vehicle
Unregistered vehicle
DUI
Drug possession
Drug possession with intent to distribute
Open container
Warrant for arrest
Illegal possession of a firearm
Stolen credit cards
Stolen merchandise

Why isn't an offense for an officer to NOT pull someone over at 4pm for speeding?

Why are the police chasing petty criminals around at 2:15am instead of arresting wage thieves and union busters at noon?

What makes you think they don’t pull over speeders at 4pm? Spoiler alert, they do.

Why should the county arrest someone for trying to run a business? Do you see them arresting 7-Eleven owners because they are open late at night?

Can you better explain your point?

Selling drugs that should have been legalized long ago shouldn't be a crime. Someone out at 2:15am making a living isn't a crime unless you want to start arresting everyone running a business late at night.

Have you ever actually lived in an area with drug problems? I do. Yes, police should be seeking out and arresting them. The crime where I live, including violent crime, is out of control. Last year someone killed a toddler to hide drugs in their body. Twice, I’ve stumbled across young men who OD’d, including at the playground I was taking my kids to. Cannabis is legal here, and I’ve known a couple people with family members who struck pedestrians while driving high.

Even if drugs were legalized, zero reason for people to have a business driving them around. We don’t have businesses randomly driving people cigarettes and alcohol. There are regulations and licensing.

It’s not running a business. It literally ruins people’s lives.

If you legalized drugs no one would be killing toddlers to hide drugs. DUI is the problem, not the drugs. ODs from tainted drugs is due to an underground market that isn't regulated. Legalization would solve these problems. Arresting people for driving around at 2:15am isn't going to solve anything.

Exactly! DUI is the problem. How do we find people driving under the influence? By pulling them over when they are doing things like making illegal turns, because that indicates someone is under the influence.

I’m not really sure what fantasy world you live in where we can magically identify people driving under the influence if they can’t be pulled over for behaving like someone driving under the influence. Do you suggest we wait until the hit and kill someone instead?

DUI should be addressed before the crime is committed. A public campaign to raise awareness of the issue should be all that's necessary. Going after people driving around at 2:15am seems like it is targeting minorities.

Public awareness campaigns have been shown to be the least effective method of reducing DUIs. They have little to no impact.

Evidence based ways shown to have a statistically significant reduction in DUIs:

- Lowering BAC limits
-Highly public, visible sobriety checkpoints where everyone is checked
- Mandatory in-vehicle breathalyzers for convicted offenders
- Swift fines, license suspension, and vehicle impoundment.

Although, I’m pretty sure you’re a troll. Nobody actually thinks police need to stop pulling over drunk people and instead run an ad campaign.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:David Simon (The Corner, the Wire) put forth an thought-provoking point: bad policies aren't the problem in policing, bad police are the problem.

Is proactive policing bad policing?

If a person in a car with tinted windows makes an illegal turn at 2:15 a.m., and they get pulled over, what ancillary offenses would you like police to ignore?

Unlicensed operator
Uninsured vehicle
Unregistered vehicle
DUI
Drug possession
Drug possession with intent to distribute
Open container
Warrant for arrest
Illegal possession of a firearm
Stolen credit cards
Stolen merchandise

Why isn't an offense for an officer to NOT pull someone over at 4pm for speeding?

Why are the police chasing petty criminals around at 2:15am instead of arresting wage thieves and union busters at noon?

What makes you think they don’t pull over speeders at 4pm? Spoiler alert, they do.

Why should the county arrest someone for trying to run a business? Do you see them arresting 7-Eleven owners because they are open late at night?

Can you better explain your point?

Selling drugs that should have been legalized long ago shouldn't be a crime. Someone out at 2:15am making a living isn't a crime unless you want to start arresting everyone running a business late at night.

Have you ever actually lived in an area with drug problems? I do. Yes, police should be seeking out and arresting them. The crime where I live, including violent crime, is out of control. Last year someone killed a toddler to hide drugs in their body. Twice, I’ve stumbled across young men who OD’d, including at the playground I was taking my kids to. Cannabis is legal here, and I’ve known a couple people with family members who struck pedestrians while driving high.

Even if drugs were legalized, zero reason for people to have a business driving them around. We don’t have businesses randomly driving people cigarettes and alcohol. There are regulations and licensing.

It’s not running a business. It literally ruins people’s lives.

If you legalized drugs no one would be killing toddlers to hide drugs. DUI is the problem, not the drugs. ODs from tainted drugs is due to an underground market that isn't regulated. Legalization would solve these problems. Arresting people for driving around at 2:15am isn't going to solve anything.

Exactly! DUI is the problem. How do we find people driving under the influence? By pulling them over when they are doing things like making illegal turns, because that indicates someone is under the influence.

I’m not really sure what fantasy world you live in where we can magically identify people driving under the influence if they can’t be pulled over for behaving like someone driving under the influence. Do you suggest we wait until the hit and kill someone instead?

DUI should be addressed before the crime is committed. A public campaign to raise awareness of the issue should be all that's necessary. Going after people driving around at 2:15am seems like it is targeting minorities.

This was 38 years ago. We lose 80k-100k people to drug overdoses each year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:David Simon (The Corner, the Wire) put forth an thought-provoking point: bad policies aren't the problem in policing, bad police are the problem.

Is proactive policing bad policing?

If a person in a car with tinted windows makes an illegal turn at 2:15 a.m., and they get pulled over, what ancillary offenses would you like police to ignore?

Unlicensed operator
Uninsured vehicle
Unregistered vehicle
DUI
Drug possession
Drug possession with intent to distribute
Open container
Warrant for arrest
Illegal possession of a firearm
Stolen credit cards
Stolen merchandise

Why isn't an offense for an officer to NOT pull someone over at 4pm for speeding?

Why are the police chasing petty criminals around at 2:15am instead of arresting wage thieves and union busters at noon?

What makes you think they don’t pull over speeders at 4pm? Spoiler alert, they do.

Why should the county arrest someone for trying to run a business? Do you see them arresting 7-Eleven owners because they are open late at night?

Can you better explain your point?

Selling drugs that should have been legalized long ago shouldn't be a crime. Someone out at 2:15am making a living isn't a crime unless you want to start arresting everyone running a business late at night.

Have you ever actually lived in an area with drug problems? I do. Yes, police should be seeking out and arresting them. The crime where I live, including violent crime, is out of control. Last year someone killed a toddler to hide drugs in their body. Twice, I’ve stumbled across young men who OD’d, including at the playground I was taking my kids to. Cannabis is legal here, and I’ve known a couple people with family members who struck pedestrians while driving high.

Even if drugs were legalized, zero reason for people to have a business driving them around. We don’t have businesses randomly driving people cigarettes and alcohol. There are regulations and licensing.

It’s not running a business. It literally ruins people’s lives.

If you legalized drugs no one would be killing toddlers to hide drugs. DUI is the problem, not the drugs. ODs from tainted drugs is due to an underground market that isn't regulated. Legalization would solve these problems. Arresting people for driving around at 2:15am isn't going to solve anything.

Exactly! DUI is the problem. How do we find people driving under the influence? By pulling them over when they are doing things like making illegal turns, because that indicates someone is under the influence.

I’m not really sure what fantasy world you live in where we can magically identify people driving under the influence if they can’t be pulled over for behaving like someone driving under the influence. Do you suggest we wait until the hit and kill someone instead?

DUI should be addressed before the crime is committed. A public campaign to raise awareness of the issue should be all that's necessary. Going after people driving around at 2:15am seems like it is targeting minorities.

Public awareness campaigns have been shown to be the least effective method of reducing DUIs. They have little to no impact.

Evidence based ways shown to have a statistically significant reduction in DUIs:

- Lowering BAC limits
-Highly public, visible sobriety checkpoints where everyone is checked
- Mandatory in-vehicle breathalyzers for convicted offenders
- Swift fines, license suspension, and vehicle impoundment.

Although, I’m pretty sure you’re a troll. Nobody actually thinks police need to stop pulling over drunk people and instead run an ad campaign.

I don't know how you you could prove that those policies actually reduce drunk driving. There are a million studies (not scalable as well) in how to reduce crime that are also impossible to prove because there are so many factors that influence crime.

There has also been a massive cultural shift regarding attitudes towards drunk driving. Not that long ago it was almost the norm to get trashed and then fish tail down the road in your Chevelle.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:David Simon (The Corner, the Wire) put forth an thought-provoking point: bad policies aren't the problem in policing, bad police are the problem.

Is proactive policing bad policing?

If a person in a car with tinted windows makes an illegal turn at 2:15 a.m., and they get pulled over, what ancillary offenses would you like police to ignore?

Unlicensed operator
Uninsured vehicle
Unregistered vehicle
DUI
Drug possession
Drug possession with intent to distribute
Open container
Warrant for arrest
Illegal possession of a firearm
Stolen credit cards
Stolen merchandise

Why isn't an offense for an officer to NOT pull someone over at 4pm for speeding?

Why are the police chasing petty criminals around at 2:15am instead of arresting wage thieves and union busters at noon?

What makes you think they don’t pull over speeders at 4pm? Spoiler alert, they do.

Why should the county arrest someone for trying to run a business? Do you see them arresting 7-Eleven owners because they are open late at night?

Can you better explain your point?

Selling drugs that should have been legalized long ago shouldn't be a crime. Someone out at 2:15am making a living isn't a crime unless you want to start arresting everyone running a business late at night.

Have you ever actually lived in an area with drug problems? I do. Yes, police should be seeking out and arresting them. The crime where I live, including violent crime, is out of control. Last year someone killed a toddler to hide drugs in their body. Twice, I’ve stumbled across young men who OD’d, including at the playground I was taking my kids to. Cannabis is legal here, and I’ve known a couple people with family members who struck pedestrians while driving high.

Even if drugs were legalized, zero reason for people to have a business driving them around. We don’t have businesses randomly driving people cigarettes and alcohol. There are regulations and licensing.

It’s not running a business. It literally ruins people’s lives.

If you legalized drugs no one would be killing toddlers to hide drugs. DUI is the problem, not the drugs. ODs from tainted drugs is due to an underground market that isn't regulated. Legalization would solve these problems. Arresting people for driving around at 2:15am isn't going to solve anything.

Exactly! DUI is the problem. How do we find people driving under the influence? By pulling them over when they are doing things like making illegal turns, because that indicates someone is under the influence.

I’m not really sure what fantasy world you live in where we can magically identify people driving under the influence if they can’t be pulled over for behaving like someone driving under the influence. Do you suggest we wait until the hit and kill someone instead?

DUI should be addressed before the crime is committed. A public campaign to raise awareness of the issue should be all that's necessary. Going after people driving around at 2:15am seems like it is targeting minorities.

This was 38 years ago. We lose 80k-100k people to drug overdoses each year.

Now we can't afford the eggs,
drugs are hella cheap,
and gas stoves are being banned.