ED0 admitted student meeting….

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder, because of the voluminous data available regarding TO v SAT, that applying TO starts you off on a very negative foot?

Chicago own study showed that test scores are not a good predictor for success. That is why they stick to test optional, probably permanently. Chicago AO has indicated that test optional does not put an applicant in disadvantage.

Columbia also claims this, yet most accepted students had test scores.

I believe TO is almost exclusively for hooked applicants.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder, because of the voluminous data available regarding TO v SAT, that applying TO starts you off on a very negative foot?

Chicago own study showed that test scores are not a good predictor for success. That is why they stick to test optional, probably permanently. Chicago AO has indicated that test optional does not put an applicant in disadvantage.

Columbia also claims this, yet most accepted students had test scores.

I believe TO is almost exclusively for hooked applicants.

Do you have a cite which shows most accepted students to Columbia had test scores?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder, because of the voluminous data available regarding TO v SAT, that applying TO starts you off on a very negative foot?

Chicago own study showed that test scores are not a good predictor for success. That is why they stick to test optional, probably permanently. Chicago AO has indicated that test optional does not put an applicant in disadvantage.

Columbia also claims this, yet most accepted students had test scores.

I believe TO is almost exclusively for hooked applicants.

Our private still sends test optional kids to UC this year. Unhooked.

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Anonymous wrote:Uchicago? 1530 seems high for an average admit ED0 there.

Peer schools: Penn Duke JHU average 1550. 1530 is low.

Np, 1530 is not low and that fact that this was posted at all shows how idiotic some are here.

1530 is the 25%tile at other T20 schools.

A step down from Rice.

So much misinformation. According to the last available common datasets, UChicago and Rice both have 1510 as the 25 percentile, with fewer students submitted test scores to Rice.

DP.

JHU 25%tile is 1530.

https://oira.jhu.edu/common-data-set-2024-25/
page 10

About the same # submitters.

And the median for both UChicago and JHU is 1540. The 75 percentile is 1560 for both. Why are we splitting hairs?

Other reference points for test score ranges from CDS:

Yale: 1480-1530-1560
Princeton: 1500-1530-1560

HYP are of a different tier, they admit unicorns, future POTUS, SCOTUS, and nobel laureates. Unicorns are not bound by GPA or test scores. That's not the comparison to make. They can easily admit a 1350 over a 1600. Not an issue for them.

Enough with the unicorn nonsense! It's so silly and does not justify letting in kids with way low standards because they can become a POTUS. Sure... Most ridiculous thing I've read on here in a long time.

yeah and it's also not true. joe biden was admitted from HS to u of delaware. barack obama was admitted from HS to occidental college. donald trump was admitted from his reform school HS to fordham.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So the consensus is ED0 has at least a 30% admit rate?

Also, since UChicago is test optional, most likely less than half of the students submit an SAT score, and of those that do the average is around 1530?

Given that information, an ED0 applicant with a 1550 has a 90% chance at admission. Those are very good odds.

The ED0 admit rate is likely in the 25-30 range.

About 75 percent of UChicago applicants submit test scores. That could be higher for ED0 (we don’t know)

UChicago doesn’t care that much about test scores compared to other factors such as rigor of courseworks and essays.

Given the above, one should NOT conclude that an ED0 applicant with a 1550 has a 90 percent of admission.

The latest IPEDS data indicates that only 46% submit an SAT, wildly different than your 75% assertion.

https://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/institution-profile/144050#institution-characteristics

46 percent submit SAT
30 percent submit ACT

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A lot of them send both SAT and ACT to Chicago when both scores are available. The percentage of test submitters is in the range of 46-76%. The reality is probably close to 50-60% submitting scores to Chicago considering nowadays many applicants took both.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the consensus is ED0 has at least a 30% admit rate?

Also, since UChicago is test optional, most likely less than half of the students submit an SAT score, and of those that do the average is around 1530?

Given that information, an ED0 applicant with a 1550 has a 90% chance at admission. Those are very good odds.

The ED0 admit rate is likely in the 25-30 range.

About 75 percent of UChicago applicants submit test scores. That could be higher for ED0 (we don’t know)

UChicago doesn’t care that much about test scores compared to other factors such as rigor of courseworks and essays.

Given the above, one should NOT conclude that an ED0 applicant with a 1550 has a 90 percent of admission.

The latest IPEDS data indicates that only 46% submit an SAT, wildly different than your 75% assertion.

https://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/institution-profile/144050#institution-characteristics

46 percent submit SAT
30 percent submit ACT

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A lot of them send both SAT and ACT to Chicago when both scores are available. The percentage of test submitters is in the range of 46-76%. The reality is probably close to 50-60% submitting scores to Chicago considering nowadays many applicants took both.

People really making up stuff now. I doubt many people take both.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the consensus is ED0 has at least a 30% admit rate?

Also, since UChicago is test optional, most likely less than half of the students submit an SAT score, and of those that do the average is around 1530?

Given that information, an ED0 applicant with a 1550 has a 90% chance at admission. Those are very good odds.

The ED0 admit rate is likely in the 25-30 range.

About 75 percent of UChicago applicants submit test scores. That could be higher for ED0 (we don’t know)

UChicago doesn’t care that much about test scores compared to other factors such as rigor of courseworks and essays.

Given the above, one should NOT conclude that an ED0 applicant with a 1550 has a 90 percent of admission.

10-15% take both, on the higher end for ACT mandatory states (like Illinois). That's why the percentage of double submits (submitting both SAT and ACT) is so high for UChicago.

The latest IPEDS data indicates that only 46% submit an SAT, wildly different than your 75% assertion.

https://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/institution-profile/144050#institution-characteristics

46 percent submit SAT
30 percent submit ACT

Read before posting

A lot of them send both SAT and ACT to Chicago when both scores are available. The percentage of test submitters is in the range of 46-76%. The reality is probably close to 50-60% submitting scores to Chicago considering nowadays many applicants took both.

People really making up stuff now. I doubt many people take both.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the consensus is ED0 has at least a 30% admit rate?

Also, since UChicago is test optional, most likely less than half of the students submit an SAT score, and of those that do the average is around 1530?

Given that information, an ED0 applicant with a 1550 has a 90% chance at admission. Those are very good odds.

The ED0 admit rate is likely in the 25-30 range.

About 75 percent of UChicago applicants submit test scores. That could be higher for ED0 (we don’t know)

UChicago doesn’t care that much about test scores compared to other factors such as rigor of courseworks and essays.

Given the above, one should NOT conclude that an ED0 applicant with a 1550 has a 90 percent of admission.

10-15% take both, on the higher end for ACT mandatory states (like Illinois). That's why the percentage of double submits (submitting both SAT and ACT) is so high for UChicago.

The latest IPEDS data indicates that only 46% submit an SAT, wildly different than your 75% assertion.

https://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/institution-profile/144050#institution-characteristics

46 percent submit SAT
30 percent submit ACT

Read before posting

A lot of them send both SAT and ACT to Chicago when both scores are available. The percentage of test submitters is in the range of 46-76%. The reality is probably close to 50-60% submitting scores to Chicago considering nowadays many applicants took both.

People really making up stuff now. I doubt many people take both.

In ACT mandatory state like Illinois, you'll see a higher percentage of dual submissions, more than 15%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the consensus is ED0 has at least a 30% admit rate?

Also, since UChicago is test optional, most likely less than half of the students submit an SAT score, and of those that do the average is around 1530?

Given that information, an ED0 applicant with a 1550 has a 90% chance at admission. Those are very good odds.

The ED0 admit rate is likely in the 25-30 range.

About 75 percent of UChicago applicants submit test scores. That could be higher for ED0 (we don’t know)

UChicago doesn’t care that much about test scores compared to other factors such as rigor of courseworks and essays.

Given the above, one should NOT conclude that an ED0 applicant with a 1550 has a 90 percent of admission.

The latest IPEDS data indicates that only 46% submit an SAT, wildly different than your 75% assertion.

https://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/institution-profile/144050#institution-characteristics

46 percent submit SAT
30 percent submit ACT

Read before posting

A lot of them send both SAT and ACT to Chicago when both scores are available. The percentage of test submitters is in the range of 46-76%. The reality is probably close to 50-60% submitting scores to Chicago considering nowadays many applicants took both.

People really making up stuff now. I doubt many people take both.

Even if someone takes both, it is very likely that only (the better) one is submitted. My kid submitted the SAT only.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the consensus is ED0 has at least a 30% admit rate?

Also, since UChicago is test optional, most likely less than half of the students submit an SAT score, and of those that do the average is around 1530?

Given that information, an ED0 applicant with a 1550 has a 90% chance at admission. Those are very good odds.

The ED0 admit rate is likely in the 25-30 range.

About 75 percent of UChicago applicants submit test scores. That could be higher for ED0 (we don’t know)

UChicago doesn’t care that much about test scores compared to other factors such as rigor of courseworks and essays.

Given the above, one should NOT conclude that an ED0 applicant with a 1550 has a 90 percent of admission.

The latest IPEDS data indicates that only 46% submit an SAT, wildly different than your 75% assertion.

https://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/institution-profile/144050#institution-characteristics

46 percent submit SAT
30 percent submit ACT

Read before posting

A lot of them send both SAT and ACT to Chicago when both scores are available. The percentage of test submitters is in the range of 46-76%. The reality is probably close to 50-60% submitting scores to Chicago considering nowadays many applicants took both.

People really making up stuff now. I doubt many people take both.

My UChicago kid took both. Only submitted one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the consensus is ED0 has at least a 30% admit rate?

Also, since UChicago is test optional, most likely less than half of the students submit an SAT score, and of those that do the average is around 1530?

Given that information, an ED0 applicant with a 1550 has a 90% chance at admission. Those are very good odds.

The ED0 admit rate is likely in the 25-30 range.

About 75 percent of UChicago applicants submit test scores. That could be higher for ED0 (we don’t know)

UChicago doesn’t care that much about test scores compared to other factors such as rigor of courseworks and essays.

Given the above, one should NOT conclude that an ED0 applicant with a 1550 has a 90 percent of admission.

The latest IPEDS data indicates that only 46% submit an SAT, wildly different than your 75% assertion.

https://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/institution-profile/144050#institution-characteristics

46 percent submit SAT
30 percent submit ACT

Read before posting

A lot of them send both SAT and ACT to Chicago when both scores are available. The percentage of test submitters is in the range of 46-76%. The reality is probably close to 50-60% submitting scores to Chicago considering nowadays many applicants took both.

People really making up stuff now. I doubt many people take both.

My UChicago kid took both. Only submitted one.

There is an overlap of at least 10% and usually 15% of those who submit both, across virtually all more selective colleges in the country.