Any feedback on Macarthur?

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Nope, not just numbers but also percentages. Deal much higher esp in math.

Even if 1/2 Hardy kids go to MA, most will not be high performers and small numbers that it won’t make a dent in the stats.


You’re just wrong. Over half of Hardy students chose MacArthur this year. I’m sorry that your doomsday predictions won’t come true. Perhaps you will need to find a new hobby


You obviously are full of BS and don’t know the data. I in contrast have looked at the data. Data doesn’t lie.

High performing kids above grade level.

Hardy 180 8th graders. If 90 went to MA
ELA 22% = 20 kids
Math 5% = 5 kids

Number above won’t make a dent in a school with over 600 kids or however many currently.

Deal 480 8th graders
ELA 41% = 197 kids
Math 19% = 91 kids

It has always been Deal that had significantly higher numbers and percentages of high performers and contributed the bulk of these cohort of kids to JR, not Hardy.


Your numbers are wrong.

For Hardy, 5s are 35% and 11%. So, correcting...
If 90 went to MA
ELA 35% = 32 kids
Math 11% = 10 kids

-- You are assuming all Deal 9th graders go to J-R? Wut?

-- You fail to count the non-Hardy high-scoring students going to Macarthur that are not from Hardy. Surely there are a few.

-- Future 9th graders at Macarthur don't need to 'make a dent' in the full 600 students at the school. The makeup of the current Sr and Jr classes is pretty irrelevant to them. What matters for them is the 200 students in their grade, with some impact from the grade ahead and behind.


Not sure where you are getting your data but mine is from DC report card.

If yours is a legitimate source and more recent then you also know the numbers at Deal and MA which you have not shared.

No, not really any significant high scoring, above grade level kids at MA, 5% in ELA and <1% in math.


I recognize your writing style. You seem to show up on all high-school focused threads. Every time your thesis is that there are no high performing students at any schools other than Walls and Jackson Reed.

I'm not sure what your angle is. Did your kids move? Are you angry that they got shut out of Walls? Are they years out from school but you are angry at the subjective admission standards?

Regardless, you have been proven incorrect over and over again. There are high scoring students at many schools in DC, not just at your chosen two. Please stop making us prove it over and over again. Ultimately, this is a good thing. Please try to find a way to accept it.

PS: If you want to argue data you really should look at the data directly on the spreadsheets you can find on the DCPS websites not get whatever DC Report Card line you're reading off of without quoting the actual test scores reflected.


Uh, no one on here said there is only high scoring students at Walls and JR.

Not sure where you are making this stuff up.

Feel free to post here the link where one can easily access data of all schools and compare ….



If you're saying you know data, you know where to find it.
Google the score you're looking for.

CAPE scores are here for 2025:
https://osse.dc.gov/assessmentresults2025
and here for earlier years (PARCC / CAPE):
https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/dcps-data-set-parcc

SAT scores are here for earlier years:
https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/dcps-data-set-sat

And I don't see them for 2025. Anyone have them?

The point is that you actually need to analyze the data not just look at a "report card."
That's a lazy cheat.


You have it backwards. The links above to CAPE is just raw data. The spreadsheet is also not very good. Headings are cut off, etc..

The DC school report actually analyzes the data for you.



I have not weighed in on this thread, but to the anti-MHS poster who is now saying school report actually analyzes data for you…you have revealed that you don’t actually have any serious research training. Even humanities majors know to always go to the primary source. And it doesn’t take a statistician to remind you that “analysis” of data can always highlight false storylines while suppressing the real action.




Have you even looked at the link and data? I have and the presentation is terrible and lacking. You can’t even make out the column heading to know what the data below is representing. So you don’t even know what the data is representing let alone what school.

So far, I don’t see anyone here attempting to analyze it because it is not very transparent.

I would also point out that the poster who presented the current Hardy data did not provide links of evidence or legitimate source.

The DC report card presents clear percentages and breakdowns of CAPE scores overall and by different subgroups for each and every school. What exactly is the false storyline here that you are alluding to?



This forum is full of threads analyzing the data in the OSSE spreadsheets. Here's a 21-page one from this fall following the release of the 2024-2025 scores: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1288379.page

There are data notes, a data dictionary, and well defined headers in the spreadsheets.

It's really not that hard.
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Well, I think the apparent digression is, at core, related to the topic. It's especially hard to agree on the forecast of the future for a school that has only been open just over 2 years, and that is under a different paradigm now than the first 2 years.
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Well, I think the apparent digression is, at core, related to the topic. It's especially hard to agree on the forecast of the future for a school that has only been open just over 2 years, and that is under a different paradigm now than the first 2 years.


...which is to say that I hope you get a lot more current personal reports, because the data is of limited use.
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Anonymous wrote:It is mostly a numbers issue. Deal is a lot larger than Hardy.


Nope, not just numbers but also percentages. Deal much higher esp in math.

Even if 1/2 Hardy kids go to MA, most will not be high performers and small numbers that it won’t make a dent in the stats.


You’re just wrong. Over half of Hardy students chose MacArthur this year. I’m sorry that your doomsday predictions won’t come true. Perhaps you will need to find a new hobby


You obviously are full of BS and don’t know the data. I in contrast have looked at the data. Data doesn’t lie.

High performing kids above grade level.

Hardy 180 8th graders. If 90 went to MA
ELA 22% = 20 kids
Math 5% = 5 kids

Number above won’t make a dent in a school with over 600 kids or however many currently.

Deal 480 8th graders
ELA 41% = 197 kids
Math 19% = 91 kids

It has always been Deal that had significantly higher numbers and percentages of high performers and contributed the bulk of these cohort of kids to JR, not Hardy.


Your numbers are wrong.

For Hardy, 5s are 35% and 11%. So, correcting...
If 90 went to MA
ELA 35% = 32 kids
Math 11% = 10 kids

-- You are assuming all Deal 9th graders go to J-R? Wut?

-- You fail to count the non-Hardy high-scoring students going to Macarthur that are not from Hardy. Surely there are a few.

-- Future 9th graders at Macarthur don't need to 'make a dent' in the full 600 students at the school. The makeup of the current Sr and Jr classes is pretty irrelevant to them. What matters for them is the 200 students in their grade, with some impact from the grade ahead and behind.


Not sure where you are getting your data but mine is from DC report card.

If yours is a legitimate source and more recent then you also know the numbers at Deal and MA which you have not shared.

No, not really any significant high scoring, above grade level kids at MA, 5% in ELA and <1% in math.


I recognize your writing style. You seem to show up on all high-school focused threads. Every time your thesis is that there are no high performing students at any schools other than Walls and Jackson Reed.

I'm not sure what your angle is. Did your kids move? Are you angry that they got shut out of Walls? Are they years out from school but you are angry at the subjective admission standards?

Regardless, you have been proven incorrect over and over again. There are high scoring students at many schools in DC, not just at your chosen two. Please stop making us prove it over and over again. Ultimately, this is a good thing. Please try to find a way to accept it.

PS: If you want to argue data you really should look at the data directly on the spreadsheets you can find on the DCPS websites not get whatever DC Report Card line you're reading off of without quoting the actual test scores reflected.


Uh, no one on here said there is only high scoring students at Walls and JR.

Not sure where you are making this stuff up.

Feel free to post here the link where one can easily access data of all schools and compare ….



If you're saying you know data, you know where to find it.
Google the score you're looking for.

CAPE scores are here for 2025:
https://osse.dc.gov/assessmentresults2025
and here for earlier years (PARCC / CAPE):
https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/dcps-data-set-parcc

SAT scores are here for earlier years:
https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/dcps-data-set-sat

And I don't see them for 2025. Anyone have them?

The point is that you actually need to analyze the data not just look at a "report card."
That's a lazy cheat.


You have it backwards. The links above to CAPE is just raw data. The spreadsheet is also not very good. Headings are cut off, etc..

The DC school report actually analyzes the data for you.



I have not weighed in on this thread, but to the anti-MHS poster who is now saying school report actually analyzes data for you…you have revealed that you don’t actually have any serious research training. Even humanities majors know to always go to the primary source. And it doesn’t take a statistician to remind you that “analysis” of data can always highlight false storylines while suppressing the real action.




Have you even looked at the link and data? I have and the presentation is terrible and lacking. You can’t even make out the column heading to know what the data below is representing. So you don’t even know what the data is representing let alone what school.

So far, I don’t see anyone here attempting to analyze it because it is not very transparent.

I would also point out that the poster who presented the current Hardy data did not provide links of evidence or legitimate source.

The DC report card presents clear percentages and breakdowns of CAPE scores overall and by different subgroups for each and every school. What exactly is the false storyline here that you are alluding to?



This forum is full of threads analyzing the data in the OSSE spreadsheets. Here's a 21-page one from this fall following the release of the 2024-2025 scores: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1288379.page

There are data notes, a data dictionary, and well defined headers in the spreadsheets.

It's really not that hard.



Feel free then to post the info for Hardy, JR, and MA here then if it’s not so hard.
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Anonymous wrote:It is mostly a numbers issue. Deal is a lot larger than Hardy.


Nope, not just numbers but also percentages. Deal much higher esp in math.

Even if 1/2 Hardy kids go to MA, most will not be high performers and small numbers that it won’t make a dent in the stats.


You’re just wrong. Over half of Hardy students chose MacArthur this year. I’m sorry that your doomsday predictions won’t come true. Perhaps you will need to find a new hobby


You obviously are full of BS and don’t know the data. I in contrast have looked at the data. Data doesn’t lie.

High performing kids above grade level.

Hardy 180 8th graders. If 90 went to MA
ELA 22% = 20 kids
Math 5% = 5 kids

Number above won’t make a dent in a school with over 600 kids or however many currently.

Deal 480 8th graders
ELA 41% = 197 kids
Math 19% = 91 kids

It has always been Deal that had significantly higher numbers and percentages of high performers and contributed the bulk of these cohort of kids to JR, not Hardy.


Your numbers are wrong.

For Hardy, 5s are 35% and 11%. So, correcting...
If 90 went to MA
ELA 35% = 32 kids
Math 11% = 10 kids

-- You are assuming all Deal 9th graders go to J-R? Wut?

-- You fail to count the non-Hardy high-scoring students going to Macarthur that are not from Hardy. Surely there are a few.

-- Future 9th graders at Macarthur don't need to 'make a dent' in the full 600 students at the school. The makeup of the current Sr and Jr classes is pretty irrelevant to them. What matters for them is the 200 students in their grade, with some impact from the grade ahead and behind.


Not sure where you are getting your data but mine is from DC report card.

If yours is a legitimate source and more recent then you also know the numbers at Deal and MA which you have not shared.

No, not really any significant high scoring, above grade level kids at MA, 5% in ELA and <1% in math.


I recognize your writing style. You seem to show up on all high-school focused threads. Every time your thesis is that there are no high performing students at any schools other than Walls and Jackson Reed.

I'm not sure what your angle is. Did your kids move? Are you angry that they got shut out of Walls? Are they years out from school but you are angry at the subjective admission standards?

Regardless, you have been proven incorrect over and over again. There are high scoring students at many schools in DC, not just at your chosen two. Please stop making us prove it over and over again. Ultimately, this is a good thing. Please try to find a way to accept it.

PS: If you want to argue data you really should look at the data directly on the spreadsheets you can find on the DCPS websites not get whatever DC Report Card line you're reading off of without quoting the actual test scores reflected.


Uh, no one on here said there is only high scoring students at Walls and JR.

Not sure where you are making this stuff up.

Feel free to post here the link where one can easily access data of all schools and compare ….



If you're saying you know data, you know where to find it.
Google the score you're looking for.

CAPE scores are here for 2025:
https://osse.dc.gov/assessmentresults2025
and here for earlier years (PARCC / CAPE):
https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/dcps-data-set-parcc

SAT scores are here for earlier years:
https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/dcps-data-set-sat

And I don't see them for 2025. Anyone have them?

The point is that you actually need to analyze the data not just look at a "report card."
That's a lazy cheat.


You have it backwards. The links above to CAPE is just raw data. The spreadsheet is also not very good. Headings are cut off, etc..

The DC school report actually analyzes the data for you.



I have not weighed in on this thread, but to the anti-MHS poster who is now saying school report actually analyzes data for you…you have revealed that you don’t actually have any serious research training. Even humanities majors know to always go to the primary source. And it doesn’t take a statistician to remind you that “analysis” of data can always highlight false storylines while suppressing the real action.




Have you even looked at the link and data? I have and the presentation is terrible and lacking. You can’t even make out the column heading to know what the data below is representing. So you don’t even know what the data is representing let alone what school.

So far, I don’t see anyone here attempting to analyze it because it is not very transparent.

I would also point out that the poster who presented the current Hardy data did not provide links of evidence or legitimate source.

The DC report card presents clear percentages and breakdowns of CAPE scores overall and by different subgroups for each and every school. What exactly is the false storyline here that you are alluding to?



This forum is full of threads analyzing the data in the OSSE spreadsheets. Here's a 21-page one from this fall following the release of the 2024-2025 scores: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1288379.page

There are data notes, a data dictionary, and well defined headers in the spreadsheets.

It's really not that hard.



Feel free then to post the info for Hardy, JR, and MA here then if it’s not so hard.


Oh and Deal too.
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Anonymous wrote:It is mostly a numbers issue. Deal is a lot larger than Hardy.


Nope, not just numbers but also percentages. Deal much higher esp in math.

Even if 1/2 Hardy kids go to MA, most will not be high performers and small numbers that it won’t make a dent in the stats.


You’re just wrong. Over half of Hardy students chose MacArthur this year. I’m sorry that your doomsday predictions won’t come true. Perhaps you will need to find a new hobby


You obviously are full of BS and don’t know the data. I in contrast have looked at the data. Data doesn’t lie.

High performing kids above grade level.

Hardy 180 8th graders. If 90 went to MA
ELA 22% = 20 kids
Math 5% = 5 kids

Number above won’t make a dent in a school with over 600 kids or however many currently.

Deal 480 8th graders
ELA 41% = 197 kids
Math 19% = 91 kids

It has always been Deal that had significantly higher numbers and percentages of high performers and contributed the bulk of these cohort of kids to JR, not Hardy.


Your numbers are wrong.

For Hardy, 5s are 35% and 11%. So, correcting...
If 90 went to MA
ELA 35% = 32 kids
Math 11% = 10 kids

-- You are assuming all Deal 9th graders go to J-R? Wut?

-- You fail to count the non-Hardy high-scoring students going to Macarthur that are not from Hardy. Surely there are a few.

-- Future 9th graders at Macarthur don't need to 'make a dent' in the full 600 students at the school. The makeup of the current Sr and Jr classes is pretty irrelevant to them. What matters for them is the 200 students in their grade, with some impact from the grade ahead and behind.


Not sure where you are getting your data but mine is from DC report card.

If yours is a legitimate source and more recent then you also know the numbers at Deal and MA which you have not shared.

No, not really any significant high scoring, above grade level kids at MA, 5% in ELA and <1% in math.


I recognize your writing style. You seem to show up on all high-school focused threads. Every time your thesis is that there are no high performing students at any schools other than Walls and Jackson Reed.

I'm not sure what your angle is. Did your kids move? Are you angry that they got shut out of Walls? Are they years out from school but you are angry at the subjective admission standards?

Regardless, you have been proven incorrect over and over again. There are high scoring students at many schools in DC, not just at your chosen two. Please stop making us prove it over and over again. Ultimately, this is a good thing. Please try to find a way to accept it.

PS: If you want to argue data you really should look at the data directly on the spreadsheets you can find on the DCPS websites not get whatever DC Report Card line you're reading off of without quoting the actual test scores reflected.


Uh, no one on here said there is only high scoring students at Walls and JR.

Not sure where you are making this stuff up.

Feel free to post here the link where one can easily access data of all schools and compare ….



If you're saying you know data, you know where to find it.
Google the score you're looking for.

CAPE scores are here for 2025:
https://osse.dc.gov/assessmentresults2025
and here for earlier years (PARCC / CAPE):
https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/dcps-data-set-parcc

SAT scores are here for earlier years:
https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/dcps-data-set-sat

And I don't see them for 2025. Anyone have them?

The point is that you actually need to analyze the data not just look at a "report card."
That's a lazy cheat.


You have it backwards. The links above to CAPE is just raw data. The spreadsheet is also not very good. Headings are cut off, etc..

The DC school report actually analyzes the data for you.



I have not weighed in on this thread, but to the anti-MHS poster who is now saying school report actually analyzes data for you…you have revealed that you don’t actually have any serious research training. Even humanities majors know to always go to the primary source. And it doesn’t take a statistician to remind you that “analysis” of data can always highlight false storylines while suppressing the real action.




Have you even looked at the link and data? I have and the presentation is terrible and lacking. You can’t even make out the column heading to know what the data below is representing. So you don’t even know what the data is representing let alone what school.

So far, I don’t see anyone here attempting to analyze it because it is not very transparent.

I would also point out that the poster who presented the current Hardy data did not provide links of evidence or legitimate source.

The DC report card presents clear percentages and breakdowns of CAPE scores overall and by different subgroups for each and every school. What exactly is the false storyline here that you are alluding to?



This forum is full of threads analyzing the data in the OSSE spreadsheets. Here's a 21-page one from this fall following the release of the 2024-2025 scores: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1288379.page

There are data notes, a data dictionary, and well defined headers in the spreadsheets.

It's really not that hard.



Feel free then to post the info for Hardy, JR, and MA here then if it’s not so hard.


Oh and Deal too.


Check it out here:
https://www.empowerk12.org/data-dashboard-source/dc-parcc-dash
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Well, I think the apparent digression is, at core, related to the topic. It's especially hard to agree on the forecast of the future for a school that has only been open just over 2 years, and that is under a different paradigm now than the first 2 years.



Well OP is asking for personal experiences not data.
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Anonymous wrote:It is mostly a numbers issue. Deal is a lot larger than Hardy.


Nope, not just numbers but also percentages. Deal much higher esp in math.

Even if 1/2 Hardy kids go to MA, most will not be high performers and small numbers that it won’t make a dent in the stats.


You’re just wrong. Over half of Hardy students chose MacArthur this year. I’m sorry that your doomsday predictions won’t come true. Perhaps you will need to find a new hobby


You obviously are full of BS and don’t know the data. I in contrast have looked at the data. Data doesn’t lie.

High performing kids above grade level.

Hardy 180 8th graders. If 90 went to MA
ELA 22% = 20 kids
Math 5% = 5 kids

Number above won’t make a dent in a school with over 600 kids or however many currently.

Deal 480 8th graders
ELA 41% = 197 kids
Math 19% = 91 kids

It has always been Deal that had significantly higher numbers and percentages of high performers and contributed the bulk of these cohort of kids to JR, not Hardy.


Your numbers are wrong.

For Hardy, 5s are 35% and 11%. So, correcting...
If 90 went to MA
ELA 35% = 32 kids
Math 11% = 10 kids

-- You are assuming all Deal 9th graders go to J-R? Wut?

-- You fail to count the non-Hardy high-scoring students going to Macarthur that are not from Hardy. Surely there are a few.

-- Future 9th graders at Macarthur don't need to 'make a dent' in the full 600 students at the school. The makeup of the current Sr and Jr classes is pretty irrelevant to them. What matters for them is the 200 students in their grade, with some impact from the grade ahead and behind.


Not sure where you are getting your data but mine is from DC report card.

If yours is a legitimate source and more recent then you also know the numbers at Deal and MA which you have not shared.

No, not really any significant high scoring, above grade level kids at MA, 5% in ELA and <1% in math.


I recognize your writing style. You seem to show up on all high-school focused threads. Every time your thesis is that there are no high performing students at any schools other than Walls and Jackson Reed.

I'm not sure what your angle is. Did your kids move? Are you angry that they got shut out of Walls? Are they years out from school but you are angry at the subjective admission standards?

Regardless, you have been proven incorrect over and over again. There are high scoring students at many schools in DC, not just at your chosen two. Please stop making us prove it over and over again. Ultimately, this is a good thing. Please try to find a way to accept it.

PS: If you want to argue data you really should look at the data directly on the spreadsheets you can find on the DCPS websites not get whatever DC Report Card line you're reading off of without quoting the actual test scores reflected.


Uh, no one on here said there is only high scoring students at Walls and JR.

Not sure where you are making this stuff up.

Feel free to post here the link where one can easily access data of all schools and compare ….



If you're saying you know data, you know where to find it.
Google the score you're looking for.

CAPE scores are here for 2025:
https://osse.dc.gov/assessmentresults2025
and here for earlier years (PARCC / CAPE):
https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/dcps-data-set-parcc

SAT scores are here for earlier years:
https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/dcps-data-set-sat

And I don't see them for 2025. Anyone have them?

The point is that you actually need to analyze the data not just look at a "report card."
That's a lazy cheat.


You have it backwards. The links above to CAPE is just raw data. The spreadsheet is also not very good. Headings are cut off, etc..

The DC school report actually analyzes the data for you.



I have not weighed in on this thread, but to the anti-MHS poster who is now saying school report actually analyzes data for you…you have revealed that you don’t actually have any serious research training. Even humanities majors know to always go to the primary source. And it doesn’t take a statistician to remind you that “analysis” of data can always highlight false storylines while suppressing the real action.




Have you even looked at the link and data? I have and the presentation is terrible and lacking. You can’t even make out the column heading to know what the data below is representing. So you don’t even know what the data is representing let alone what school.

So far, I don’t see anyone here attempting to analyze it because it is not very transparent.

I would also point out that the poster who presented the current Hardy data did not provide links of evidence or legitimate source.

The DC report card presents clear percentages and breakdowns of CAPE scores overall and by different subgroups for each and every school. What exactly is the false storyline here that you are alluding to?



This forum is full of threads analyzing the data in the OSSE spreadsheets. Here's a 21-page one from this fall following the release of the 2024-2025 scores: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1288379.page

There are data notes, a data dictionary, and well defined headers in the spreadsheets.

It's really not that hard.



Feel free then to post the info for Hardy, JR, and MA here then if it’s not so hard.


Oh and Deal too.


Check it out here:
https://www.empowerk12.org/data-dashboard-source/dc-parcc-dash



Above does not tell you percentages of high preforming, above grade level kids.

The highest bar is on grade level and above. It shows 3 and up, 4 (grade level) and up. No breakdown of percentages of kids in each level.

DC school report is better, more thorough, and easier to read.
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Anonymous wrote:It is mostly a numbers issue. Deal is a lot larger than Hardy.


Nope, not just numbers but also percentages. Deal much higher esp in math.

Even if 1/2 Hardy kids go to MA, most will not be high performers and small numbers that it won’t make a dent in the stats.


You’re just wrong. Over half of Hardy students chose MacArthur this year. I’m sorry that your doomsday predictions won’t come true. Perhaps you will need to find a new hobby


You obviously are full of BS and don’t know the data. I in contrast have looked at the data. Data doesn’t lie.

High performing kids above grade level.

Hardy 180 8th graders. If 90 went to MA
ELA 22% = 20 kids
Math 5% = 5 kids

Number above won’t make a dent in a school with over 600 kids or however many currently.

Deal 480 8th graders
ELA 41% = 197 kids
Math 19% = 91 kids

It has always been Deal that had significantly higher numbers and percentages of high performers and contributed the bulk of these cohort of kids to JR, not Hardy.


Your numbers are wrong.

For Hardy, 5s are 35% and 11%. So, correcting...
If 90 went to MA
ELA 35% = 32 kids
Math 11% = 10 kids

-- You are assuming all Deal 9th graders go to J-R? Wut?

-- You fail to count the non-Hardy high-scoring students going to Macarthur that are not from Hardy. Surely there are a few.

-- Future 9th graders at Macarthur don't need to 'make a dent' in the full 600 students at the school. The makeup of the current Sr and Jr classes is pretty irrelevant to them. What matters for them is the 200 students in their grade, with some impact from the grade ahead and behind.


Not sure where you are getting your data but mine is from DC report card.

If yours is a legitimate source and more recent then you also know the numbers at Deal and MA which you have not shared.

No, not really any significant high scoring, above grade level kids at MA, 5% in ELA and <1% in math.


I recognize your writing style. You seem to show up on all high-school focused threads. Every time your thesis is that there are no high performing students at any schools other than Walls and Jackson Reed.

I'm not sure what your angle is. Did your kids move? Are you angry that they got shut out of Walls? Are they years out from school but you are angry at the subjective admission standards?

Regardless, you have been proven incorrect over and over again. There are high scoring students at many schools in DC, not just at your chosen two. Please stop making us prove it over and over again. Ultimately, this is a good thing. Please try to find a way to accept it.

PS: If you want to argue data you really should look at the data directly on the spreadsheets you can find on the DCPS websites not get whatever DC Report Card line you're reading off of without quoting the actual test scores reflected.


Uh, no one on here said there is only high scoring students at Walls and JR.

Not sure where you are making this stuff up.

Feel free to post here the link where one can easily access data of all schools and compare ….



If you're saying you know data, you know where to find it.
Google the score you're looking for.

CAPE scores are here for 2025:
https://osse.dc.gov/assessmentresults2025
and here for earlier years (PARCC / CAPE):
https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/dcps-data-set-parcc

SAT scores are here for earlier years:
https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/dcps-data-set-sat

And I don't see them for 2025. Anyone have them?

The point is that you actually need to analyze the data not just look at a "report card."
That's a lazy cheat.


You have it backwards. The links above to CAPE is just raw data. The spreadsheet is also not very good. Headings are cut off, etc..

The DC school report actually analyzes the data for you.



I have not weighed in on this thread, but to the anti-MHS poster who is now saying school report actually analyzes data for you…you have revealed that you don’t actually have any serious research training. Even humanities majors know to always go to the primary source. And it doesn’t take a statistician to remind you that “analysis” of data can always highlight false storylines while suppressing the real action.




Have you even looked at the link and data? I have and the presentation is terrible and lacking. You can’t even make out the column heading to know what the data below is representing. So you don’t even know what the data is representing let alone what school.

So far, I don’t see anyone here attempting to analyze it because it is not very transparent.

I would also point out that the poster who presented the current Hardy data did not provide links of evidence or legitimate source.

The DC report card presents clear percentages and breakdowns of CAPE scores overall and by different subgroups for each and every school. What exactly is the false storyline here that you are alluding to?



This forum is full of threads analyzing the data in the OSSE spreadsheets. Here's a 21-page one from this fall following the release of the 2024-2025 scores: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1288379.page

There are data notes, a data dictionary, and well defined headers in the spreadsheets.

It's really not that hard.



Feel free then to post the info for Hardy, JR, and MA here then if it’s not so hard.


Oh and Deal too.


Check it out here:
https://www.empowerk12.org/data-dashboard-source/dc-parcc-dash



Above does not tell you percentages of high preforming, above grade level kids.

The highest bar is on grade level and above. It shows 3 and up, 4 (grade level) and up. No breakdown of percentages of kids in each level.

DC school report is better, more thorough, and easier to read.


But it’s out of date. This link has the newer data.
Anonymous
SY24-25 Performance Level 5

HS ELA:
School Without Walls 76%
Banneker 44%
Latin 41%
Jackson-Reed 31%
BASIS 26% - includes MS
DCI 20% - includes MS
McKinley 19%
Sojourner Truth 18% - includes MS
Duke Ellington 16%
Phelps 10%
Digital Pioneers 10%
CHEC 6% - includes MS
MacArthur 6%


HS Math:
BASIS 19% - includes MS
School Without Walls 11%
Banneker 9%
DCI 7% - includes MS
Sojourner Truth 5% - includes MS
Latin 4%
Jackson-Reed 3%
Duke Ellington 3%
McKinley Tech 1%
MacArthur <1%
Anonymous
SY24-25 Performance Level 5

MS ELA:
Deal 51%
Hardy 35%
Latin Cooper 31%
Latin 30%
Oyster-Adams 29% - includes ES
BASIS 26% - includes HS
DCI 20% - includes HS
Stuart-Hobson 20%
Sojourner Truth 18% - includes HS
Eliot-Hine 17%
Inspired Teaching 16% - includes ES
John Francis 14%

MS Math:
Deal 27%
BASIS 19% - includes HS
Oyster-Adams 16% - includes ES
Inspired Teaching 11% - includes ES
Hardy 11%
Latin 10%
Latin Cooper 8%
DCI 7% - includes HS
John Francis 6%

MS Algebra I:
Deal 27%
John Francis 20%
MacFarland 12%
Stuart-Hobson 11%
Oyster-Adams 9%
Wells 8%
Hardy 7%
DC Prep Edgewood 6%

MS Geometry:
Deal 63%
Hardy 28%
Latin Cooper 18%
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:SY24-25 Performance Level 5

HS ELA:
School Without Walls 76%
Banneker 44%
Latin 41%
Jackson-Reed 31%
BASIS 26% - includes MS
DCI 20% - includes MS
McKinley 19%
Sojourner Truth 18% - includes MS
Duke Ellington 16%
Phelps 10%
Digital Pioneers 10%
CHEC 6% - includes MS
MacArthur 6%


HS Math:
BASIS 19% - includes MS
School Without Walls 11%
Banneker 9%
DCI 7% - includes MS
Sojourner Truth 5% - includes MS
Latin 4%
Jackson-Reed 3%
Duke Ellington 3%
McKinley Tech 1%
MacArthur <1%


Well there you go for Macarthur for last year. No surprises or statistically different compared to DC report card of 5% ELA and <1% math.
Anonymous
So is it good or not?!?!?!
From the vibe and feeling? Not the data.
Anonymous
It’s hilarious how Jackson Reed is discussed as this far superior school and its performance level 5 for math is only 3% 😂
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It’s hilarious how Jackson Reed is discussed as this far superior school and its performance level 5 for math is only 3% 😂


It's a bad metric for high school math performance.

If the question is about the number of students working at an advanced level, which would be a better indicator? The number of 9th graders who:

1) score a 4 (met expectations) in Geometry/Algebra II OR

2) score a 5 (exceeded expectations) in Algebra I?
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