US News top 50 colleges grouped by region- the south rises!

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:After watching the recent show on girls and sororities in Alabama and Mississippi where they have to post videos of what they’re wearing for Rush Week and the brand names of their jewelry I can’t imagine universities in the South ever being equivalent to universities in the rest of the country. The sororities are way too popular and attract certain types you don’t see further North.

The sororities are segregated by race, also male friends or boyfriends are not allowed in the girls bedrooms. No alcohol either, they save getting black out drunk for the frat parties. Time stopped around 1955.


Not everyone joins a sorority. This is another crass stereotype.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:After watching the recent show on girls and sororities in Alabama and Mississippi where they have to post videos of what they’re wearing for Rush Week and the brand names of their jewelry I can’t imagine universities in the South ever being equivalent to universities in the rest of the country. The sororities are way too popular and attract certain types you don’t see further North.

The sororities are segregated by race, also male friends or boyfriends are not allowed in the girls bedrooms. No alcohol either, they save getting black out drunk for the frat parties. Time stopped around 1955.


This isn't just a southern thing. Men are not allowed beyond the main level in sorority houses at my DC's school. That included dads and brothers. These are official sorority houses with a house mom, cleaners and chef. My college didn't have official houses, just ones that the sisters would rent, so there weren't any perks or rules.
Anonymous
Sometimes I think that people on this thread get all of their news from Tik Tok and Instagram....you probably ALSO believe that Shein sells high quality, well made clothing.

I just read the article about sororities in The Atlantic and can't believe the shoddy Journalism. It's just a biased op-ed based on "information" the author gathered exclusively from social media.

The author watched a small sliver of Greek life, and wrongfully applied the exception to the rule. Which you ALL are ALSO DOING.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No WI in Midwest? Hmmnmm...


Wisconsin is closer to Mizzou, KU, etc. All good schools, but not at the top
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No WI in Midwest? Hmmnmm...


Wisconsin is closer to Mizzou, KU, etc. All good schools, but not at the top


OP's criterion is t50. Wisconsin (36) is, Mizzou (102) and KU (74) are not. At least read the first post before responding.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, and UMD are really not considered South in any sense other than weird civil-war era metrics, which judging by the title of your post is your thing.

Ask most people to put these schools in buckets and they're gonna say 19 are NE and 14 are S.


But Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UMD, and UVA aren't exactly northern schools either.

If there are only four boxes - North, South, Midwest, and West - I'd put them in the South box.

The Mid-Atlantic is the forgotten step-child. And there is no box for them. Compared to New England, the DMV schools are very much part of the Southern world.

So OP is correct.

New England has the advantage of history. But after 1800, besides MIT and the Boston schools, all the energy is elsewhere.


I'm starting to believe some of you aren't even from the States. References to the 19th century, the Mason-Dixon line, etc... maybe put your concise guide to US History down
Anonymous
By population, according to the Census, the Northeast has 57 million people, the South 129 million, the Midwest 69 million and the West 79 million.

I'd say the Northeast is punching well above its weight while the South is lagging.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:After watching the recent show on girls and sororities in Alabama and Mississippi where they have to post videos of what they’re wearing for Rush Week and the brand names of their jewelry I can’t imagine universities in the South ever being equivalent to universities in the rest of the country. The sororities are way too popular and attract certain types you don’t see further North.

The sororities are segregated by race, also male friends or boyfriends are not allowed in the girls bedrooms. No alcohol either, they save getting black out drunk for the frat parties. Time stopped around 1955.


Not everyone joins a sorority. This is another crass stereotype.


+1
Plenty of people don’t, to include my own kids.
Anonymous
Does anyone else find these endless posts declaring how excellent the schools in the South are to be a little thirsty? Like, why do you keep having to tell everyone how great the South is?

I also find some tension in the posts. Like some of the posts say that the southern schools are so much better because the kids are bette looking and more social and have parties….and then if someone says “well it seems like some of the southern schools might be kind of focused on parties and physical appearance,” they get all upset and cry it’s a stereotype. If all the schools are the same, that’s fine. Or if you can’t generalize by region, that’s also fine. But I’m confused on what the takeaway message is.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:According to US Census region designation:

Northeast: 16 universities:
Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Johns Hopkins, UPenn, Cornell, Carnegie Mellon, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, NYU, Tufts, BU, Northeastern, Rutgers

South: 17 universities
Duke, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, UNC, UVA, Vanderbilt, Emory, Georgia Tech, Rice, UT Austin, Florida, UMD, Georgia [William & Mary, Texas A&M, FSU, Wake Forest are all tied at 51 and are technically #51]

Midwest: 6 universities
UChicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, Illinois

West: 10 universities
Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, UCI, UCSB, UCSD, UC Davis, Washington


The south is the future of academia in America.



Honey- Hopkins and Georgetown (MD and DC) are not the south. They are midatlantic.


+1 They are more northern than southern. California & NY are the most represented in Gtowns student body. So subtract those 2–but they are part of the NE elite.

+1, I don’t know how someone looks at the academic focus and culture at Georgetown and Johns Hopkins and concludes “that’s the south for sure!”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:After watching the recent show on girls and sororities in Alabama and Mississippi where they have to post videos of what they’re wearing for Rush Week and the brand names of their jewelry I can’t imagine universities in the South ever being equivalent to universities in the rest of the country. The sororities are way too popular and attract certain types you don’t see further North.

The sororities are segregated by race, also male friends or boyfriends are not allowed in the girls bedrooms. No alcohol either, they save getting black out drunk for the frat parties. Time stopped around 1955.


Not everyone joins a sorority. This is another crass stereotype.


Some of those sororities in Southern schools are crass. Mississippi has about half of the students in Greek life, Alabama is close behind.

Compare them to Northeastern colleges,- BC and Harvard don’t have Greek life. Harvard has their own version with about 5 - 10% of students. BU and Northeastern both have about 10% join Greek life. The state flagship University of Massachusetts has about 10%

To say there isn’t a difference between Southern colleges and Northern colleges is not accurate. There are northerners going to southern colleges for an active social life and beach weather but most students who went to the top public and private schools in the Northeast stay up North for the academics.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:After watching the recent show on girls and sororities in Alabama and Mississippi where they have to post videos of what they’re wearing for Rush Week and the brand names of their jewelry I can’t imagine universities in the South ever being equivalent to universities in the rest of the country. The sororities are way too popular and attract certain types you don’t see further North.

The sororities are segregated by race, also male friends or boyfriends are not allowed in the girls bedrooms. No alcohol either, they save getting black out drunk for the frat parties. Time stopped around 1955.


Not everyone joins a sorority. This is another crass stereotype.


Some of those sororities in Southern schools are crass. Mississippi has about half of the students in Greek life, Alabama is close behind.

Compare them to Northeastern colleges,- BC and Harvard don’t have Greek life. Harvard has their own version with about 5 - 10% of students. BU and Northeastern both have about 10% join Greek life. The state flagship University of Massachusetts has about 10%

To say there isn’t a difference between Southern colleges and Northern colleges is not accurate. There are northerners going to southern colleges for an active social life and beach weather but most students who went to the top public and private schools in the Northeast stay up North for the academics.


Yeah, I just don't see it. If you look at NMSF finalist cutoffs, the highest PSAT scores come from New Jersey, Connecticut, Mass, New York, etc. Those high stat kids sometimes don't even consider their state school, be it UMass, UConn, Rutgers, SUNY's, etc. They aren't galivanting off to Ole Miss or Alabama in any appreciable numbers.
Anonymous
There are over 13,000 students in a frat or sorority at Alabama. With that many students you're going to see excesses in whatever they do. That's the nature of numbers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Sometimes I think that people on this thread get all of their news from Tik Tok and Instagram....you probably ALSO believe that Shein sells high quality, well made clothing.

I just read the article about sororities in The Atlantic and can't believe the shoddy Journalism. It's just a biased op-ed based on "information" the author gathered exclusively from social media.

The author watched a small sliver of Greek life, and wrongfully applied the exception to the rule. Which you ALL are ALSO DOING.


Based on what the sorority members were wearing I’m pretty sure there were quite a few SHEIN outfits.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else find these endless posts declaring how excellent the schools in the South are to be a little thirsty? Like, why do you keep having to tell everyone how great the South is?

I also find some tension in the posts. Like some of the posts say that the southern schools are so much better because the kids are bette looking and more social and have parties….and then if someone says “well it seems like some of the southern schools might be kind of focused on parties and physical appearance,” they get all upset and cry it’s a stereotype. If all the schools are the same, that’s fine. Or if you can’t generalize by region, that’s also fine. But I’m confused on what the takeaway message is.

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