“Amy Bradley is Missing” Netflix

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Anonymous wrote:Aren't there enough runaways that could be used for sex trafficking. Why take her? I knew Any Bradley, she was not particularly attractive and would have been very difficult to control.


I personally thought it was odd how the family thought she was so attractive. Like how they kept saying how much attention she got from staff. She was average at best. I hate to be that person, but they are delusional.


This.

Really gorgeous sex workers are not kept in low rent brothels in the Caribbean.

And she was a bit old at 23 for kidnapping for that purpose. They usually target teen girls. She didn’t even look young for her age.

I think it was likely that she did get off the ship to score drugs and incurred a drug debt that she was working off. Still tragic.


She walked off the boat barefoot before 6 AM and no one from the boat security/off boarding saw her?


You sound co okeyeky confysed.

Please watch the series before chiming in.


The series is a biased view of events.... even the series title is meant to give the viewers bias.


Well no one—INCLUDING YOU—knows where she is.

So, it would be correct to say she is missing.

The series raised multiple possibilities. The posters on here who are sure of one are the people with a bias.


She’s not missing, she’s dead.

She’s definitely missing, and possibly (probably?) dead. We don’t know for sure what happened to her. No body has been found, not even body parts.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I did a deep dive into this case a few months back. No one knows what really happened but I came away thinking she was trafficked. Evidence that swayed me:
- she was a lifeguard and strong swimmer, which might not mean much BUT she also feared the ocean. She didn't want to go on the cruise because she did not like the open water. Anything can happen but it is unlikely someone with her background would get too close to the edge and fall over, unless pushed.
- by all accounts, she got a lot of attention from the crew and the band. She mentioned to her family that it made her uncomfortable. The crew did not adequately search the whole ship before letting people off.
- the location of the boat when she disappeared was very close to shore/docking. Experts have said if a body fell over, someone would have seen it or the body would have been found.
- photographer's pictures of her and only her are all gone.
- and that picture of the sex worker looks very much like her..
- finally, the FBI has kept the case open and think foul play was involved.


This is a great list of reasons supporting that theory.

But I can poke some holes in them:

-Even the strongest swimmer would struggle to swim if they fell or jumped off a ship into the ocean. Practically speaking, they would be dragged under the ship. A drunk person wouldn’t have a chance.
-The account from her ex-GF made a case for her to be heartbroken, opening the door to a suicide. Did her parents know she was gay? Any chance there was family drama around that during the cruise?
-The crew is friendly with everyone. They work for tips. What exactly was documented about their behavior that was out of line? If she was so uncomfortable with the crew, then why would she hang out with them…and go off with a stranger in the middle of the night/early morning?
-Why would a young gay white girl sneak away with an older black guy who was making her feel uncomfortable?
-What deck was her cabin on? If it’s a lower deck, why would anyone notice if she fell or jumped off? You wouldn’t—especially if it happened between 4am and 6am.
-The timeline is sketchy so there’s no way to confirm where the boat was.
-What pictures of her were missing? Did the family confirm she had posed for pics by the crew photographer? That’s weird.
-Is there a side by side of her pic and the sex worker pic? Link? Any chance it was photoshopped?
-Does the FBI typically keep unsolved cases open or does an agent really believe she was killed on the boat (perhaps elsewhere) or smuggled off?
-Could she have left her cabin, met a crew member, been sexually assaulted or struggled and then was suffocated or beaten to death before being tossed overboard? Incinerated? Smuggled off in trash or a big suitcase?

Even if she had been kidnapped and smuggled off for trafficking, it’s doubtful she could remain off the grid for so long and still be alive.
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https://websleuths.com/threads/va-amy-bradley-23-petersburg-24-march-1998-3.187717/page-32

I don't know how to post pictures but if you click on that websleuth link and scroll down there is a forensic analysis comparing Amy to the sex worker.
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-The crew is friendly with everyone. They work for tips. What exactly was documented about their behavior that was out of line? If she was so uncomfortable with the crew, then why would she hang out with them…and go off with a stranger in the middle of the night/early morning?


This just isn't true. I went on many cruise around the same time as Amy's disappearance, and I was around her age. And I've been on so many more cruises since. I've never seen any crew members get friendly like that with me or any other guests. There are rules about this too, guests aren't supposed to hang out with the crew and they certainly aren't allowed to bring you to the crew area. Exceptions are made for positions like Cruise Director, who does need to interact with the guests... but still nothing like what I saw. The attention she was getting was so unusual.
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Anonymous wrote:I did a deep dive into this case a few months back. No one knows what really happened but I came away thinking she was trafficked. Evidence that swayed me:
- she was a lifeguard and strong swimmer, which might not mean much BUT she also feared the ocean. She didn't want to go on the cruise because she did not like the open water. Anything can happen but it is unlikely someone with her background would get too close to the edge and fall over, unless pushed.
- by all accounts, she got a lot of attention from the crew and the band. She mentioned to her family that it made her uncomfortable. The crew did not adequately search the whole ship before letting people off.
- the location of the boat when she disappeared was very close to shore/docking. Experts have said if a body fell over, someone would have seen it or the body would have been found.
- photographer's pictures of her and only her are all gone.
- and that picture of the sex worker looks very much like her..
- finally, the FBI has kept the case open and think foul play was involved.


This is a great list of reasons supporting that theory.

But I can poke some holes in them:

-Even the strongest swimmer would struggle to swim if they fell or jumped off a ship into the ocean. Practically speaking, they would be dragged under the ship. A drunk person wouldn’t have a chance.
-The account from her ex-GF made a case for her to be heartbroken, opening the door to a suicide. Did her parents know she was gay? Any chance there was family drama around that during the cruise?
-The crew is friendly with everyone. They work for tips. What exactly was documented about their behavior that was out of line? If she was so uncomfortable with the crew, then why would she hang out with them…and go off with a stranger in the middle of the night/early morning?
-Why would a young gay white girl sneak away with an older black guy who was making her feel uncomfortable?
-What deck was her cabin on? If it’s a lower deck, why would anyone notice if she fell or jumped off? You wouldn’t—especially if it happened between 4am and 6am.
-The timeline is sketchy so there’s no way to confirm where the boat was.
-What pictures of her were missing? Did the family confirm she had posed for pics by the crew photographer? That’s weird.
-Is there a side by side of her pic and the sex worker pic? Link? Any chance it was photoshopped?
-Does the FBI typically keep unsolved cases open or does an agent really believe she was killed on the boat (perhaps elsewhere) or smuggled off?
-Could she have left her cabin, met a crew member, been sexually assaulted or struggled and then was suffocated or beaten to death before being tossed overboard? Incinerated? Smuggled off in trash or a big suitcase?

Even if she had been kidnapped and smuggled off for trafficking, it’s doubtful she could remain off the grid for so long and still be alive.


It is not about her being a strong swimmer. It is that she understood the dangers of the open sea and was actively afraid of the ocean.

I don't remember details now but the crew gave her a lot of attention and would invite her to go out with them or meet them at places when they docked. Crucial point was that she felt uncomfortable. I assume she is used to friendly staff and this seemed to go beyond. I think she did hit it off with the band guy.

The boat was in a canal at that time. Possible that someone could fall and not be seen or found, but much less likely than open ocean. A canal would be busting at 5am.

The weirdest evidence is the photographs. The cruise ship had a photographer taking random pictures during the trip that they would then try to sell to customers. Everyone has photos taken, and the photographer remembered taking photos of Amy. But only her photos were missing at the end. Just gone, with no explanation.

Just Google photos of Amy and Jaz side by side. And the link above gives the analysis. They look very very similar IMO.
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I believe this is still an active case, and the FBI would not keep it open for so long if they thought she fell herself.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://websleuths.com/threads/va-amy-bradley-23-petersburg-24-march-1998-3.187717/page-32

I don't know how to post pictures but if you click on that websleuth link and scroll down there is a forensic analysis comparing Amy to the sex worker.


When were those photos supposedly taken and how old would she have been?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I believe this is still an active case, and the FBI would not keep it open for so long if they thought she fell herself.


Don’t you think cases remain open until a body or person is found?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I did a deep dive into this case a few months back. No one knows what really happened but I came away thinking she was trafficked. Evidence that swayed me:
- she was a lifeguard and strong swimmer, which might not mean much BUT she also feared the ocean. She didn't want to go on the cruise because she did not like the open water. Anything can happen but it is unlikely someone with her background would get too close to the edge and fall over, unless pushed.
- by all accounts, she got a lot of attention from the crew and the band. She mentioned to her family that it made her uncomfortable. The crew did not adequately search the whole ship before letting people off.
- the location of the boat when she disappeared was very close to shore/docking. Experts have said if a body fell over, someone would have seen it or the body would have been found.
- photographer's pictures of her and only her are all gone.
- and that picture of the sex worker looks very much like her..
- finally, the FBI has kept the case open and think foul play was involved.


This is a great list of reasons supporting that theory.

But I can poke some holes in them:

-Even the strongest swimmer would struggle to swim if they fell or jumped off a ship into the ocean. Practically speaking, they would be dragged under the ship. A drunk person wouldn’t have a chance.
-The account from her ex-GF made a case for her to be heartbroken, opening the door to a suicide. Did her parents know she was gay? Any chance there was family drama around that during the cruise?
-The crew is friendly with everyone. They work for tips. What exactly was documented about their behavior that was out of line? If she was so uncomfortable with the crew, then why would she hang out with them…and go off with a stranger in the middle of the night/early morning?
-Why would a young gay white girl sneak away with an older black guy who was making her feel uncomfortable?
-What deck was her cabin on? If it’s a lower deck, why would anyone notice if she fell or jumped off? You wouldn’t—especially if it happened between 4am and 6am.
-The timeline is sketchy so there’s no way to confirm where the boat was.
-What pictures of her were missing? Did the family confirm she had posed for pics by the crew photographer? That’s weird.
-Is there a side by side of her pic and the sex worker pic? Link? Any chance it was photoshopped?
-Does the FBI typically keep unsolved cases open or does an agent really believe she was killed on the boat (perhaps elsewhere) or smuggled off?
-Could she have left her cabin, met a crew member, been sexually assaulted or struggled and then was suffocated or beaten to death before being tossed overboard? Incinerated? Smuggled off in trash or a big suitcase?

Even if she had been kidnapped and smuggled off for trafficking, it’s doubtful she could remain off the grid for so long and still be alive.

Watch the documentary that inspired this thread. You’re asking questions that are answered in the documentary.
Anonymous
It is beyond annoying that posters are giving opinions without even watching the show! 🙄
Anonymous
I’d put it at 90% chance she fell overboard, 10% chance she was murdered on the ship and disposed of, 0% chance she was trafficked.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’d put it at 90% chance she fell overboard, 10% chance she was murdered on the ship and disposed of, 0% chance she was trafficked.


+1

There are easier ways to kidnap and traffic women…starting on land at a resort.

It’s more plausible the bass player or another person assaulted her, killed her, and disposed of the body than one or more crew members plotted to kidnap her and smuggle her off the boat.
Anonymous
The most compelling part was that the former fbi agent said their person was confident the picture was her.

I feel like that sort of analysis is something they are good at and they would definitely have the option of saying “inconclusive” if they thought it was possible but not highly likely.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I believe this is still an active case, and the FBI would not keep it open for so long if they thought she fell herself.


That is not how it works……
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The most compelling part was that the former fbi agent said their person was confident the picture was her.

I feel like that sort of analysis is something they are good at and they would definitely have the option of saying “inconclusive” if they thought it was possible but not highly likely.


A handful of people on that documentary felt confident about their perspectives, but they all conflicted.
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