Schools more difficult to get in than their rankings appear to indicate

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Anonymous wrote:The single digit acceptance rate LACs (WASP, Bowdoin, Colby, Barnard) are extremely picky.

It depends on what high school you're coming from. Colby is a guarantee for a 3.4+ from many privates like the DMV Big3. I was just looking at Scoir data. They have gone down to a 3.2, completely unhooked in recent years from my kid's school.

Nobody is buying that line.

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Anonymous wrote:As for the talk about Vanderbilt, it’s tough admit shouldn’t be a surprise. It’s a simple combination of great academics, great social scene, great city, and increasingly good sports. Basically, it’s has it all in a great environment. The recent slippage in the ratings is a shrug. Also, it hadn’t had the political craziness that many elite campuses in the NE have experienced.

Upthread, there was a comparison to Duke. While Duke has a great campus, academics, and basketball team, Durham is terrible and the campus is segregated from the city. Also, while old campus is very collegiate, but the rest of campus feels very corporate. Not a great vibe.

It’s astonishing that Vandy has gone from an acceptance rate of 70% 35 years ago to less than 5% now. Wow.

Vanderbilt has that hard to find combination of urban, warm weather, athletics, Greek life, and prestige. Hard to beat.

Yes, and it is not dominated by Asians and Internationals. Look at their accepted student Instagram--it is an entirely different demographic then any other top20 school.

Similar look at Notre Dame, which is (unfortunately, IMO) only 9% Asian American and 8% international. But I suppose there aren't a huge number of Catholic Asian Americans?

Almost all LACs are like Vanderbilt, less than 20% Asian (except the ones in California).
If you cannot compete with Asian, consider LACs, or Vanderbilt, or Notre Dame. :P

I’ll bite! as the parent of a current very high stats and — this is the key — well round Vanderbilt student. Vanderbilt is not looking for grinders and box checkers (1st chair violin? Check! Fencing regional placement? Check! 4.0 unweighted vs. 3.86? Check! Natl debate regional winner?)

They do a good job in sniffing out natural leaders vs tiger-mommed grinders with impeccable and highly predictable portfolios

Test optional mom, and … proud ?

Bravo!

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Anonymous wrote:As for the talk about Vanderbilt, it’s tough admit shouldn’t be a surprise. It’s a simple combination of great academics, great social scene, great city, and increasingly good sports. Basically, it’s has it all in a great environment. The recent slippage in the ratings is a shrug. Also, it hadn’t had the political craziness that many elite campuses in the NE have experienced.

Upthread, there was a comparison to Duke. While Duke has a great campus, academics, and basketball team, Durham is terrible and the campus is segregated from the city. Also, while old campus is very collegiate, but the rest of campus feels very corporate. Not a great vibe.

It’s astonishing that Vandy has gone from an acceptance rate of 70% 35 years ago to less than 5% now. Wow.

Vanderbilt has that hard to find combination of urban, warm weather, athletics, Greek life, and prestige. Hard to beat.

Yes, and it is not dominated by Asians and Internationals. Look at their accepted student Instagram--it is an entirely different demographic then any other top20 school.

Similar look at Notre Dame, which is (unfortunately, IMO) only 9% Asian American and 8% international. But I suppose there aren't a huge number of Catholic Asian Americans?

Almost all LACs are like Vanderbilt, less than 20% Asian (except the ones in California).
If you cannot compete with Asian, consider LACs, or Vanderbilt, or Notre Dame. :P

I’ll bite! as the parent of a current very high stats and — this is the key — well round Vanderbilt student. Vanderbilt is not looking for grinders and box checkers (1st chair violin? Check! Fencing regional placement? Check! 4.0 unweighted vs. 3.86? Check! Natl debate regional winner?)

They do a good job in sniffing out natural leaders vs tiger-mommed grinders with impeccable and highly predictable portfolios

Very unkind with racist overtones. My Asian kid was first chair violin, so I guess they fit that stereotype, and yes, they did not get into Vanderbilt. But maybe it was because they didn’t have a perfect unweighted 4.0 and maybe they would have gotten in if I had tiger -mommed more .

Sounds like your kid is very accomplished and will do well anywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:Rank of 90 is good for such a new program. Gatech's Neuroscience program is ranked 305, and its been around for a while now.

Dude had to dig down into Neuroscience to go at Tech. As if anyone gives a sh*t. lol

Congrats on your second tier school, 3rd best in the state of Georgia.

lol Huh?

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/georgia-tech-tops-list-best-college-georgia-emory-uga-follow

https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/best-colleges/s/georgia/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/1js3k6p/20250326_the_new_ivies_2025_20_great_colleges/

Niche thats pathetic. Also public new ivys don't mean much of anything.

Niche is a good site.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are out of state, Georgia, has gotten very hard to get into. It's a great school, it's SEC, - super popular now. It's not quite there yet but it's almost in UNC and UVA territory in terms of how hard it is for an out of state applicant to get into.

But it's in......Georgia

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Anonymous wrote:If you are out of state, Georgia, has gotten very hard to get into. It's a great school, it's SEC, - super popular now. It's not quite there yet but it's almost in UNC and UVA territory in terms of how hard it is for an out of state applicant to get into.

But it's in......Georgia

Atlanta is better than any city NC has to offer. Also DC is technically not VA.

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Anonymous wrote:Rank of 90 is good for such a new program. Gatech's Neuroscience program is ranked 305, and its been around for a while now.

Dude had to dig down into Neuroscience to go at Tech. As if anyone gives a sh*t. lol

Congrats on your second tier school, 3rd best in the state of Georgia.

lol Huh?

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/georgia-tech-tops-list-best-college-georgia-emory-uga-follow

https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/best-colleges/s/georgia/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/1js3k6p/20250326_the_new_ivies_2025_20_great_colleges/

Niche thats pathetic. Also public new ivys don't mean much of anything.

Niche is a good site.

Its the least reliable college ranking site, seemingly why its the only one where Gatech ranks first in the state in.

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Anonymous wrote:Demand by the high stat applicants are the real ranking.

That's a combination of Acceptance Rate + Yield Rate + Student Quality + additionally Retention Rate & Graduation rate

YES. I totally agree.

Can someone please help us understand Vanderbilt through this lens? We’ve always viewed it as a “target” for super high-stat kids compared to the reach/“lottery” of Duke, Stanford, and Northwestern. Comparable to Wash U and Emory, assuming the kid visits and shows DI? But maybe not these days?

(Our school doesn’t show Naviance data for Vanderbilt. It’s a strong public school in New England. Plenty of data for the other schools I mentioned, but because so few kids apply to Vandy, there’s nothing up on Naviance.)

It depends how you define target, and high stats? Is target a 50% chance or 20% chance? Is High stats 1450, 1500, or 1550? If you haven't won any state level awards then no, I don't think Vandy, Emory, or WashU. Also I don't think Vandy is as difficult to get into as meets the eye. Vanderbilt has a Northeastern-ness about it where students throw applications at despite not being close to qualified unlike Emory, WashU, or even Duke. I think Emory and Vandy get similar amounts of higher stat applicants because their acceptances and rejects overlap a lot from what I can see year to year.

No one has mentioned Emory as being harder to get into than perceived yet. But yes Emory. I remember not too long ago, maybe 2016 where a 1450 at Emory meant you had a chance at the smaller scholarships. Now a 1550 doesn't even guarantee a waitlist.

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Anonymous wrote:Rank of 90 is good for such a new program. Gatech's Neuroscience program is ranked 305, and its been around for a while now.

Dude had to dig down into Neuroscience to go at Tech. As if anyone gives a sh*t. lol

Congrats on your second tier school, 3rd best in the state of Georgia.

lol Huh?

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/georgia-tech-tops-list-best-college-georgia-emory-uga-follow

https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/best-colleges/s/georgia/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/1js3k6p/20250326_the_new_ivies_2025_20_great_colleges/

Niche thats pathetic. Also public new ivys don't mean much of anything.

Niche is a good site.

Its the least reliable college ranking site, seemingly why its the only one where Gatech ranks first in the state in.

People in the west think Georgia Tech is the top school in Georgia.

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Anonymous wrote:The single digit acceptance rate LACs (WASP, Bowdoin, Colby, Barnard) are extremely picky.

It depends on what high school you're coming from. Colby is a guarantee for a 3.4+ from many privates like the DMV Big3. I was just looking at Scoir data. They have gone down to a 3.2, completely unhooked in recent years from my kid's school.

You don’t know what you don’t know. Did the 3.2 ED? Did this person have exceptional writing awards? A death in the family junior year which greatly impacted grades and was explainable? You can’t answer any of that… so just shut up. Each data point on a scattergram is a real human being, so stop it. “They have gone down to a 3.2…”. You are awful.

People like you are going to get the college counseling office to stop giving direct access to SCOIR.

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Anonymous wrote:Rank of 90 is good for such a new program. Gatech's Neuroscience program is ranked 305, and its been around for a while now.

Dude had to dig down into Neuroscience to go at Tech. As if anyone gives a sh*t. lol

Congrats on your second tier school, 3rd best in the state of Georgia.

lol Huh?

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/georgia-tech-tops-list-best-college-georgia-emory-uga-follow

https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/best-colleges/s/georgia/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/1js3k6p/20250326_the_new_ivies_2025_20_great_colleges/

Niche thats pathetic. Also public new ivys don't mean much of anything.

Niche is a good site.

Its the least reliable college ranking site, seemingly why its the only one where Gatech ranks first in the state in.

show us one overall ranking where UGA ranks over Georgia Tech?

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Anonymous wrote:Rank of 90 is good for such a new program. Gatech's Neuroscience program is ranked 305, and its been around for a while now.

Dude had to dig down into Neuroscience to go at Tech. As if anyone gives a sh*t. lol

Congrats on your second tier school, 3rd best in the state of Georgia.

lol Huh?

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/georgia-tech-tops-list-best-college-georgia-emory-uga-follow

https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/best-colleges/s/georgia/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/1js3k6p/20250326_the_new_ivies_2025_20_great_colleges/

Niche thats pathetic. Also public new ivys don't mean much of anything.

Niche is a good site.

Its the least reliable college ranking site, seemingly why its the only one where Gatech ranks first in the state in.

People in the west think Georgia Tech is the top school in Georgia.

The whole country knows this. It's just this one UGA poster who has a huge inferiority complex and shows up in any thread mentioning Gtech. Still can't show one overall ranking to substantiate the delusion.

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Anonymous wrote:Rank of 90 is good for such a new program. Gatech's Neuroscience program is ranked 305, and its been around for a while now.

Dude had to dig down into Neuroscience to go at Tech. As if anyone gives a sh*t. lol

Congrats on your second tier school, 3rd best in the state of Georgia.

lol Huh?

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/georgia-tech-tops-list-best-college-georgia-emory-uga-follow

https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/best-colleges/s/georgia/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/1js3k6p/20250326_the_new_ivies_2025_20_great_colleges/

Niche thats pathetic. Also public new ivys don't mean much of anything.

Niche is a good site.

Its the least reliable college ranking site, seemingly why its the only one where Gatech ranks first in the state in.

https://edurank.org/geo/georgia/

https://www.ramseysolutions.com/saving/best-colleges-in-georgia?srsltid=AfmBOopSHWlW8TFtvbEbAA72Qxxl7tNOk5gn7q8BfV7MQ9lNlEjpd5BX

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/ga?_sort=rank&_sortDirection=asc

https://www.collegevine.com/schools/best-public-colleges-in-georgia

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Anonymous wrote:Rank of 90 is good for such a new program. Gatech's Neuroscience program is ranked 305, and its been around for a while now.

Dude had to dig down into Neuroscience to go at Tech. As if anyone gives a sh*t. lol

Congrats on your second tier school, 3rd best in the state of Georgia.

lol Huh?

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/georgia-tech-tops-list-best-college-georgia-emory-uga-follow

https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/best-colleges/s/georgia/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/1js3k6p/20250326_the_new_ivies_2025_20_great_colleges/

Niche thats pathetic. Also public new ivys don't mean much of anything.

Niche is a good site.

Its the least reliable college ranking site, seemingly why its the only one where Gatech ranks first in the state in.

People in the west think Georgia Tech is the top school in Georgia.

The whole country knows this. It's just this one UGA poster who has a huge inferiority complex and shows up in any thread mentioning Gtech. Still can't show one overall ranking to substantiate the delusion.

You're embarrassing, the top school in Georgia is Emory. By a lot. Before the ranking redesign, Gatech was ranked 38, and UGA 40 on US news. They are seemingly peer schools.

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DP. Georgia Tech is good at engineering. That's about it. For everything else, UGA.

A similar pair is UNC and NC state. UNC doesn't have an engineering school, NC state has it.