Is it even possible to strike up a convo with a random jogger while you're also out jogging?

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Anonymous wrote:Truth is a confident attractive man in his 20s to 40s (max, see Patrick Dempsey on Grey’s) can jog by a random gal, do a double take while passing and smiling. If she smiles, stop in your tracks and talk to her. Something corny like, “I’m sorry, I just wanted to say you’re gorgeous” will work. And if it doesn’t work, a confident attractive guy doesn’t care because he has lots of options and just continues on his jog. Worst case he made the random woman’s day calling her pretty. Women are only creeped out by ugly men, nebbish betas, low and middle class men, and old men. They can sense the desperation.

That would creep me out to no end, no matter how attractive the guy was. No.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to see the same woman on a trail for many months. I also saw her at a coffee shop we both liked. One time i approached her on the trail and said something like "I seem to see you everywhere!" We decided to meet for coffee and then had a few more dates, but I decided not to pursue a relationship.

Nothing really bad happened. She seemed happy that I recognized her on the trail and she was happy to go out with me a few times. The one awkward thing is that I still sometimes see her on the trail or in the neighborhood.

Yeah. Because that’s where she runs. You made it awkward.

Yep, you're the a'hole. I hope you learned your lesson.

If the dating had turned into a real relationship, would you still be so critical? This seems less risky than asking out someone from a class or workplace or church.

You’re really not getting the message here. Unsurprising.

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Anonymous wrote:I do not want to be chatted up by anyone while I'm out exercising. If you have a very cute dog I MIGHT ask if I can pet your dog, but I have no interest in you beyond giving me permission to pet the dog.

This.

Don’t chat anyone up. Especially women. We already know we’re targets for violence and you are an unknown entity we now have to keep our heads on a swivel to avoid.

Are you single? If yes, just a suggestion, maybe tone down the paranoid neuroticism. I can't even imagine thinking there are violent men lurking everywhere while out jogging. If that's how you truly feel 24/7, move and/or see a psychiatrist.

This, but not the psychiatrist part. Psychotherapy is mostly worthless. People that scared just need some ERP and get out in the world.
Jog at night or in seedier areas to build up confidence.

You're just so annoying with these maneuvers.

Leave people alone, or make yourself actually interesting enough that you don't have to stalk women and try to trick them into paying attention to you.

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Anonymous wrote:Truth is a confident attractive man in his 20s to 40s (max, see Patrick Dempsey on Grey’s) can jog by a random gal, do a double take while passing and smiling. If she smiles, stop in your tracks and talk to her. Something corny like, “I’m sorry, I just wanted to say you’re gorgeous” will work. And if it doesn’t work, a confident attractive guy doesn’t care because he has lots of options and just continues on his jog. Worst case he made the random woman’s day calling her pretty. Women are only creeped out by ugly men, nebbish betas, low and middle class men, and old men.

They can sense the desperation.

Yes, we can.

Calling other men "betas" has serious whiny "is this low claaaaass?" vibes.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to see the same woman on a trail for many months. I also saw her at a coffee shop we both liked. One time i approached her on the trail and said something like "I seem to see you everywhere!" We decided to meet for coffee and then had a few more dates, but I decided not to pursue a relationship.

Nothing really bad happened. She seemed happy that I recognized her on the trail and she was happy to go out with me a few times. The one awkward thing is that I still sometimes see her on the trail or in the neighborhood.

Yeah. Because that’s where she runs. You made it awkward.

Yep, you're the a'hole. I hope you learned your lesson.

If the dating had turned into a real relationship, would you still be so critical? This seems less risky than asking out someone from a class or workplace or church.

Less risky to you, not less risky to the woman. That in itself makes you look weak.

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Look at these crazy yet unsurprising responses. Guys, don't waste your time approaching American women. They are cold and most have bad attitudes. Just use apps and screen hard. Pump and then dump if they become bothersome.

Better yet, go to Latin Am or SEA and it's easy to chat up women pretty much wherever you go.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to see the same woman on a trail for many months. I also saw her at a coffee shop we both liked. One time i approached her on the trail and said something like "I seem to see you everywhere!" We decided to meet for coffee and then had a few more dates, but I decided not to pursue a relationship.

Nothing really bad happened. She seemed happy that I recognized her on the trail and she was happy to go out with me a few times. The one awkward thing is that I still sometimes see her on the trail or in the neighborhood.

Yeah. Because that’s where she runs. You made it awkward.

Yep, you're the a'hole. I hope you learned your lesson.

If the dating had turned into a real relationship, would you still be so critical? This seems less risky than asking out someone from a class or workplace or church.

You’re really not getting the message here. Unsurprising.

I'm a man and I get the message. Women who run on trails usually want to be left alone and might even feel threatened if a guy tries to talk to them in a flirty way. Same for class or work or church, right?

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Anonymous wrote:I used to see the same woman on a trail for many months. I also saw her at a coffee shop we both liked. One time i approached her on the trail and said something like "I seem to see you everywhere!" We decided to meet for coffee and then had a few more dates, but I decided not to pursue a relationship.

Nothing really bad happened. She seemed happy that I recognized her on the trail and she was happy to go out with me a few times. The one awkward thing is that I still sometimes see her on the trail or in the neighborhood.

Yeah. Because that’s where she runs. You made it awkward.

Yep, you're the a'hole. I hope you learned your lesson.

If the dating had turned into a real relationship, would you still be so critical? This seems less risky than asking out someone from a class or workplace or church.

You’re really not getting the message here. Unsurprising.

I'm a man and I get the message. Women who run on trails usually want to be left alone and might even feel threatened if a guy tries to talk to them in a flirty way. Same for class or work or church, right?

Those are inherently social activities with other people nearby, so no, it's not as bad.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to see the same woman on a trail for many months. I also saw her at a coffee shop we both liked. One time i approached her on the trail and said something like "I seem to see you everywhere!" We decided to meet for coffee and then had a few more dates, but I decided not to pursue a relationship.

Nothing really bad happened. She seemed happy that I recognized her on the trail and she was happy to go out with me a few times. The one awkward thing is that I still sometimes see her on the trail or in the neighborhood.

Yeah. Because that’s where she runs. You made it awkward.

Yep, you're the a'hole. I hope you learned your lesson.

If the dating had turned into a real relationship, would you still be so critical? This seems less risky than asking out someone from a class or workplace or church.

You’re really not getting the message here. Unsurprising.

I'm a man and I get the message. Women who run on trails usually want to be left alone and might even feel threatened if a guy tries to talk to them in a flirty way. Same for class or work or church, right?

Wrong. Jogging solo is a solo activity. Attending church is a social activity.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to see the same woman on a trail for many months. I also saw her at a coffee shop we both liked. One time i approached her on the trail and said something like "I seem to see you everywhere!" We decided to meet for coffee and then had a few more dates, but I decided not to pursue a relationship.

Nothing really bad happened. She seemed happy that I recognized her on the trail and she was happy to go out with me a few times. The one awkward thing is that I still sometimes see her on the trail or in the neighborhood.

Yeah. Because that’s where she runs. You made it awkward.

Yep, you're the a'hole. I hope you learned your lesson.

If the dating had turned into a real relationship, would you still be so critical? This seems less risky than asking out someone from a class or workplace or church.

You’re really not getting the message here. Unsurprising.

I'm a man and I get the message. Women who run on trails usually want to be left alone and might even feel threatened if a guy tries to talk to them in a flirty way. Same for class or work or church, right?

Wrong. Jogging solo is a solo activity. Attending church is a social activity.

This. Chit chat is expected at church. And she's not alone with you in the woods. And unless you're a creeper randomly cruising churches to pick up Godly women, it's a community where you are known and recognized. That makes it safer for her.

If you're the kind of person who can't understand why women are careful, work on yourself before trying to date.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to see the same woman on a trail for many months. I also saw her at a coffee shop we both liked. One time i approached her on the trail and said something like "I seem to see you everywhere!" We decided to meet for coffee and then had a few more dates, but I decided not to pursue a relationship.

Nothing really bad happened. She seemed happy that I recognized her on the trail and she was happy to go out with me a few times. The one awkward thing is that I still sometimes see her on the trail or in the neighborhood.

Yeah. Because that’s where she runs. You made it awkward.

Yep, you're the a'hole. I hope you learned your lesson.

If the dating had turned into a real relationship, would you still be so critical? This seems less risky than asking out someone from a class or workplace or church.

You’re really not getting the message here. Unsurprising.

I'm a man and I get the message. Women who run on trails usually want to be left alone and might even feel threatened if a guy tries to talk to them in a flirty way. Same for class or work or church, right?

Those are inherently social activities with other people nearby, so no, it's not as bad.

It's not as bad, but it's still bad. Women are at class, work, or church to focus on themselves and what they need to do, not talk to men. Just leave women alone. Use a dating app if you want to talk to a woman.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to see the same woman on a trail for many months. I also saw her at a coffee shop we both liked. One time i approached her on the trail and said something like "I seem to see you everywhere!" We decided to meet for coffee and then had a few more dates, but I decided not to pursue a relationship.

Nothing really bad happened. She seemed happy that I recognized her on the trail and she was happy to go out with me a few times. The one awkward thing is that I still sometimes see her on the trail or in the neighborhood.

Yeah. Because that’s where she runs. You made it awkward.

Yep, you're the a'hole. I hope you learned your lesson.

If the dating had turned into a real relationship, would you still be so critical? This seems less risky than asking out someone from a class or workplace or church.

You’re really not getting the message here. Unsurprising.

I'm a man and I get the message. Women who run on trails usually want to be left alone and might even feel threatened if a guy tries to talk to them in a flirty way. Same for class or work or church, right?

Those are inherently social activities with other people nearby, so no, it's not as bad.

It's not as bad, but it's still bad. Women are at class, work, or church to focus on themselves and what they need to do, not talk to men. Just leave women alone. Use a dating app if you want to talk to a woman.

Yes! Do not talk to women. If we want something from you we will tell you.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to see the same woman on a trail for many months. I also saw her at a coffee shop we both liked. One time i approached her on the trail and said something like "I seem to see you everywhere!" We decided to meet for coffee and then had a few more dates, but I decided not to pursue a relationship.

Nothing really bad happened. She seemed happy that I recognized her on the trail and she was happy to go out with me a few times. The one awkward thing is that I still sometimes see her on the trail or in the neighborhood.

Yeah. Because that’s where she runs. You made it awkward.

Yep, you're the a'hole. I hope you learned your lesson.

If the dating had turned into a real relationship, would you still be so critical? This seems less risky than asking out someone from a class or workplace or church.

You’re really not getting the message here. Unsurprising.

I'm a man and I get the message. Women who run on trails usually want to be left alone and might even feel threatened if a guy tries to talk to them in a flirty way. Same for class or work or church, right?

Those are inherently social activities with other people nearby, so no, it's not as bad.

It's not as bad, but it's still bad. Women are at class, work, or church to focus on themselves and what they need to do, not talk to men. Just leave women alone. Use a dating app if you want to talk to a woman.

A lot of people hate dating apps and want to meet potential matches organically IRL.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to see the same woman on a trail for many months. I also saw her at a coffee shop we both liked. One time i approached her on the trail and said something like "I seem to see you everywhere!" We decided to meet for coffee and then had a few more dates, but I decided not to pursue a relationship.

Nothing really bad happened. She seemed happy that I recognized her on the trail and she was happy to go out with me a few times. The one awkward thing is that I still sometimes see her on the trail or in the neighborhood.

Yeah. Because that’s where she runs. You made it awkward.

Yep, you're the a'hole. I hope you learned your lesson.

If the dating had turned into a real relationship, would you still be so critical? This seems less risky than asking out someone from a class or workplace or church.

You’re really not getting the message here. Unsurprising.

I'm a man and I get the message. Women who run on trails usually want to be left alone and might even feel threatened if a guy tries to talk to them in a flirty way. Same for class or work or church, right?

Those are inherently social activities with other people nearby, so no, it's not as bad.

It's not as bad, but it's still bad. Women are at class, work, or church to focus on themselves and what they need to do, not talk to men. Just leave women alone. Use a dating app if you want to talk to a woman.

A lot of people hate dating apps and want to meet potential matches organically IRL.

Randomly interrupting strangers is not meeting organically. And it will make you the pariah of the running trail. Women will warn each other about your annoying, entitled behavior.

Try joining any sort of club, organization, or church. Be a regular participant and add value. Don't just stand around thinking about how lonely and horny you are. Think what you can contribute, not what you can get. Then you will get to know people without needing to interrupt and bother them. After that, you can ask someone out. That is how it happens "organically IRL".

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Anonymous wrote:I used to see the same woman on a trail for many months. I also saw her at a coffee shop we both liked. One time i approached her on the trail and said something like "I seem to see you everywhere!" We decided to meet for coffee and then had a few more dates, but I decided not to pursue a relationship.

Nothing really bad happened. She seemed happy that I recognized her on the trail and she was happy to go out with me a few times. The one awkward thing is that I still sometimes see her on the trail or in the neighborhood.

Yeah. Because that’s where she runs. You made it awkward.

Yep, you're the a'hole. I hope you learned your lesson.

If the dating had turned into a real relationship, would you still be so critical? This seems less risky than asking out someone from a class or workplace or church.

You’re really not getting the message here. Unsurprising.

I'm a man and I get the message. Women who run on trails usually want to be left alone and might even feel threatened if a guy tries to talk to them in a flirty way. Same for class or work or church, right?

Those are inherently social activities with other people nearby, so no, it's not as bad.

It's not as bad, but it's still bad. Women are at class, work, or church to focus on themselves and what they need to do, not talk to men. Just leave women alone. Use a dating app if you want to talk to a woman.

A lot of people hate dating apps and want to meet potential matches organically IRL.

A lot of people hate being interrupted while they are trying to exercise.