Elon prepares to doxx all Feds:

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Anonymous wrote:For a bunch of tech "geniuses", that is the most amature looking website I have ever seen. SAD.

As long as it gets the job done, that’s fine with me. It’s supposed to be about efficiency and cost savings. Eliminate the positions as quickly as possible and save the taxpayers money. It doesn’t need to be fancy!

Meanwhile, Mike Johnson wants to add $4 trillion to the national debt. But keep worrying about federal salaries.

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of middle and UMC MAGAs that make $80k plus. A police officer or a firefighter could clear that easily with all their paid OT. Experienced teachers especially in the Rust Belt or NE states that tend to pay well, and by experienced I mean 20+ years which you can get by your mid 40s if you start teaching right out of college. School district admins, nurses, people who own a few properties/small time landlords, even full time retail or restaurant management! It’s a mistake to assume all Trump supporters live in a trailer in a holler and get disability and Medicaid.

So why are they so jealous of others making $80k salaries?

One, I think a lot of them are in blue collar or more physically taxing fields and they generally resent people with office type jobs. Two, people in general have very bad perceptions about how much money others are making (and everything else). I saw a recent study that I wish I could find where the people surveyed thought that 20% of people in the US were making over $500k a year and that 10% of the US population was transgender or something crazy like that. The people surveyed thought 40% of the US population was black and 25% were immigrants born in another country. Just super, super crazy numbers that are so far from reality. Some people are going to be mad that government cube farm guy is making $80k a year, but others are going to say … I’m also making $80k a year.

The ones that are going to stick out more and take up all the air in the room are the ones making $100k a year with a NW of $15 million or what have you. Of course, everyone here knows that’s a low earning spouse with a high earning spouse in a big time job, or someone who left a big time job for a government role. But it’s going to look super suspicious to someone who doesn’t know any federal employees.

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Anonymous wrote:So the average employee where I am is mid-40s making $80k/year. Where's the waste, fraud, and abuse again?

That’s a ton of money! Especially for people who mostly work from home. Eliminating tens of thousands of positions at $80K a pop is a huge savings. You Feds really are out of touch. That is a huge amount of money for the average American in flyover country. Just wow.

Just wow that you don't think occupation, education, regional cost of living, and affordability of child care have anything to do with these stats.

I was a fed in the 90s. I reached GS-13 by late 20s. I left government service in part because I couldn't afford a house in the town where I lived along the metro line.

People who resent feds don't want anyone to have a better life than their own. They don't think feds are deserving, mostly because of anti-government beliefs. We know!

Everything plays badly in flyover country because the media thrives on outrage. That's not new either.

Also consider that premium undergrads just out of school are in that same $80K-$100K wage range. With very little work experience.

There's a strong trend of anti-education and anti-expertise among MAGA types. My chronically unemployed MAGA brother in law openly bullied my husband when he was admitted to college, and then mocked my husband's engineering PhD. He'd be the first to complain about how unfair it is that my husband makes a decent salary working for the US military.

These MAGA types just like my BIL, they are just losers who couldn't cut it in school and couldn't make anything of their lives (BIL got fired from driving a truck multiple times). So now they want to tear down everyone else too.

And I'd also bet, like BIL, they collect their disability checks.

I can see why your BIL doesn’t like you when you speak about him in such terms. Just like Trump voters resent Federal employees who express the sentiments evident in this thread.

My BIL is a nasty racist bully. He literally punched my husband when he announced he was going to college. I don't care if MAGA types like him like me.

And yes, you MAGA guys are all like him, big bullies who want to destroy people out of their own pathetic inadequacy.

Hmm, I think there’s more to this story. Hope you get help for your anger.

I like that you're telling people to get help with anger when you're burning down the government to "own the libs". All you guys have is anger.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For a bunch of tech "geniuses", that is the most amature looking website I have ever seen. SAD.

As long as it gets the job done, that’s fine with me. It’s supposed to be about efficiency and cost savings. Eliminate the positions as quickly as possible and save the taxpayers money. It doesn’t need to be fancy!

Pp I hope you are laid off and never find work again.

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Anonymous wrote:So the average employee where I am is mid-40s making $80k/year. Where's the waste, fraud, and abuse again?

That’s a ton of money! Especially for people who mostly work from home. Eliminating tens of thousands of positions at $80K a pop is a huge savings. You Feds really are out of touch. That is a huge amount of money for the average American in flyover country. Just wow.

Just wow that you don't think occupation, education, regional cost of living, and affordability of child care have anything to do with these stats.

I was a fed in the 90s. I reached GS-13 by late 20s. I left government service in part because I couldn't afford a house in the town where I lived along the metro line.

People who resent feds don't want anyone to have a better life than their own. They don't think feds are deserving, mostly because of anti-government beliefs. We know!

Everything plays badly in flyover country because the media thrives on outrage. That's not new either.

Also consider that premium undergrads just out of school are in that same $80K-$100K wage range. With very little work experience.

There's a strong trend of anti-education and anti-expertise among MAGA types. My chronically unemployed MAGA brother in law openly bullied my husband when he was admitted to college, and then mocked my husband's engineering PhD. He'd be the first to complain about how unfair it is that my husband makes a decent salary working for the US military.

These MAGA types just like my BIL, they are just losers who couldn't cut it in school and couldn't make anything of their lives (BIL got fired from driving a truck multiple times). So now they want to tear down everyone else too.

And I'd also bet, like BIL, they collect their disability checks.

I can see why your BIL doesn’t like you when you speak about him in such terms. Just like Trump voters resent Federal employees who express the sentiments evident in this thread.

My BIL is a nasty racist bully. He literally punched my husband when he announced he was going to college. I don't care if MAGA types like him like me.

And yes, you MAGA guys are all like him, big bullies who want to destroy people out of their own pathetic inadequacy.

Hmm, I think there’s more to this story. Hope you get help for your anger.

I like that you're telling people to get help with anger when you're burning down the government to "own the libs". All you guys have is anger.

Nope. I have felt on top of the world since November 5 . But let’s not make this political. It’s just business.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For a bunch of tech "geniuses", that is the most amature looking website I have ever seen. SAD.

As long as it gets the job done, that’s fine with me. It’s supposed to be about efficiency and cost savings. Eliminate the positions as quickly as possible and save the taxpayers money. It doesn’t need to be fancy!

Meanwhile, Mike Johnson wants to add $4 trillion to the national debt. But keep worrying about federal salaries.

And the State Department is buying $400,000,000 worth of Cybertrucks. Super way to save money.

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Anonymous wrote:So the average employee where I am is mid-40s making $80k/year. Where's the waste, fraud, and abuse again?

That’s a ton of money! Especially for people who mostly work from home. Eliminating tens of thousands of positions at $80K a pop is a huge savings. You Feds really are out of touch. That is a huge amount of money for the average American in flyover country. Just wow.

Feds don’t mostly work from home. Most work in the office. And how is it out of touch?

It’s out of touch to act like an $80K/year salary is nothing and shouldn’t be a target for government waste investigations. That was my point.

80k/year is not a high salary for a lawyer, doctor, or someone with a PhD. The government employs a lot of people with experience and education.

govt benefits make total come like 250k a year for an 80k worker

Every federal employee gets a benefits statement each year. It lists your total benefits cost to the government and includes medical costs, social security, pension, and medicare costs.

Your numbers don't work out.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the site in formation. Note the base baiting: the total wage bill is featured at the top with no context for its % of the national budget or the services provided by those workers, whose pay is scaled for cost of living in different areas. He also does not disclose his own benefits from his government position, such as his power to shut down agencies that were investigating his businesses. Who is really serving the people?

https://doge.gov/workforce?orgId=69ee18bc-9ac8-467e-84b0-106601b01b90

This is all public information it just isn't laid out easily for the public to analyze

The DOGE site doesn't link to any data yet, just has charts asserting numbers. The page asserting the number of regs per agency is especially designed to be inflammatory, IMO. Why not link to all the "ridiculous" regs these unelected bureaucrats have inflicted on America? I suspect because Congress told the agency to do X, and doing X required creating rules for....continuity, for.....fairness and consistency? The audacity of those bureaucrats.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure I see the issue. I'm very proud of our salaries. Our head person makes like 250k, has 3 Ivy League diplomas and decades of experience. Contrast that to a CEO salary like Boeing making 32 million dollars.

Yeah, but Boeing delivers an actual product.

...that falls out of the sky....

fixed that for you.

And we do actually need engineers hires by the government to inspect those planes so servicemembers aren't killed by badly made planes or ships.

Or inspect meat packing plants, oil rigs so they don't explode, nuclear facilities, on and on. If you think companies can regulate themselves, I've got a bridge to sell you because I have seen first hand how companies behave badly.

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Anonymous wrote:For a bunch of tech "geniuses", that is the most amature looking website I have ever seen. SAD.

As long as it gets the job done, that’s fine with me. It’s supposed to be about efficiency and cost savings. Eliminate the positions as quickly as possible and save the taxpayers money. It doesn’t need to be fancy!

Meanwhile, Mike Johnson wants to add $4 trillion to the national debt. But keep worrying about federal salaries.

And the State Department is buying $400,000,000 worth of Cybertrucks. Super way to save money.

But at least we are getting something tangible in return.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For a bunch of tech "geniuses", that is the most amature looking website I have ever seen. SAD.

As long as it gets the job done, that’s fine with me. It’s supposed to be about efficiency and cost savings. Eliminate the positions as quickly as possible and save the taxpayers money. It doesn’t need to be fancy!

Meanwhile, Mike Johnson wants to add $4 trillion to the national debt. But keep worrying about federal salaries.

And the State Department is buying $400,000,000 worth of Cybertrucks. Super way to save money.

FFS. Is the backseat of those even comfortable enough for people to ride around in? Are there 3 rows like Escalades?

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Anonymous wrote:WTF do these numbers even mean? This says the average DOC worker makes 120k a year. That's bull. I've worked there. There's no way that's true. It was really hard to get a gs 14 - there aren't many

GS-14 is the most common grade at my DOC bureau. I'm guessing you don't work in one of the STEM centric DOC bureaus?

DOC you better take a seat and keep quiet because you know DOGE is coming for you.

Some DOC bureaus are fully fee funded and run a surplus. They even have all computer interactions tracked, and all work is on a production system and get paid during government shutdowns.

And when GSK, PFE, GM, NVDA get upset that they won't be getting what they paid for and whithold campaign dollars because China is ripping them off, then I expect things to change.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do we need this site?
Leavitt already waved a stack of blank papers in the air at the press conference. That's all I need.

Receipts baby, they’re bringing the receipts!

By showing that federal workers earn salaries generally below the average for people with their level of education and expertise?

No.
https://doge.gov/savings

[Anonymous]

I looked up my own sub-agency… it says the average worker is 45 years old and making $42k.

Seems like a bargain actually….?

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of middle and UMC MAGAs that make $80k plus. A police officer or a firefighter could clear that easily with all their paid OT. Experienced teachers especially in the Rust Belt or NE states that tend to pay well, and by experienced I mean 20+ years which you can get by your mid 40s if you start teaching right out of college. School district admins, nurses, people who own a few properties/small time landlords, even full time retail or restaurant management! It’s a mistake to assume all Trump supporters live in a trailer in a holler and get disability and Medicaid.

So why are they so jealous of others making $80k salaries?

One, I think a lot of them are in blue collar or more physically taxing fields and they generally resent people with office type jobs. Two, people in general have very bad perceptions about how much money others are making (and everything else). I saw a recent study that I wish I could find where the people surveyed thought that 20% of people in the US were making over $500k a year and that 10% of the US population was transgender or something crazy like that. The people surveyed thought 40% of the US population was black and 25% were immigrants born in another country. Just super, super crazy numbers that are so far from reality. Some people are going to be mad that government cube farm guy is making $80k a year, but others are going to say … I’m also making $80k a year.

The ones that are going to stick out more and take up all the air in the room are the ones making $100k a year with a NW of $15 million or what have you. Of course, everyone here knows that’s a low earning spouse with a high earning spouse in a big time job, or someone who left a big time job for a government role. But it’s going to look super suspicious to someone who doesn’t know any federal employees.

The thing is that our low paying fed jobs are either gone (there's a dearth of secretaries and admin assistants) or they are contracted out (janitors, building security, mailroom). So the numbers are skewing higher when the rest of us are scientists, engineers, and lawyers.