Executive Order on RIFs coming today

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone give an example of a program that isn't required by law? My husband and I are having a hard time coming up with one.

Very difficult to say. EEO office? Required by statute. Ethics employees? Required by statute. Legal office? Arguably not required by statute.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sooooo....if you're not essential during shutdowns, you're eligible for RIF. Unless you're in an office that performs functions mandated by statute or other law, law enforcement, "public safety" (which is not defined), or immigration enforcement. Am I reading that right?

So their plan is to shutdown in March, and everyone who doesn’t go to work is RIF?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone give an example of a program that isn't required by law? My husband and I are having a hard time coming up with one.

DOGE

But otherwise, hard to think of one. Maybe climate risk in the previous admin? The WH policy councils? Some of the functions in CXO offices (eg, the non chco act parts of HR, or the customer experience stuff). But even most government admin is required by statute--fitara, gpra, CFO act, bbedca

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sooooo....if you're not essential during shutdowns, you're eligible for RIF. Unless you're in an office that performs functions mandated by statute or other law, law enforcement, "public safety" (which is not defined), or immigration enforcement. Am I reading that right?

So their plan is to shutdown in March, and everyone who doesn’t go to work is RIF?

? Let's use OIG's as an example. OIG offices are definitely required by law (Inspector General Act of 1978). But during a shut down, there are non-essential people who work there. There are going to be non-essential people in every single office. Since they work for the OIG, are they safe?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sooooo....if you're not essential during shutdowns, you're eligible for RIF. Unless you're in an office that performs functions mandated by statute or other law, law enforcement, "public safety" (which is not defined), or immigration enforcement. Am I reading that right?

So their plan is to shutdown in March, and everyone who doesn’t go to work is RIF?

No, as a PP cited that's not legal. There is a law about that and it has been litigated and upheld.

[Anonymous]

So did DOGE just RIF itself?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So did DOGE just RIF itself?

No because DOGE isn’t even a real agency, right?

[Anonymous]

Are budget functions mandated by CFO Act? What about offices like leg affairs?

[Anonymous]

Are budget functions mandated by CFO Act? What about offices like leg affairs?

Older than the CFO Act.

31 USC 1105 for budget.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So did DOGE just RIF itself?

No because DOGE isn’t even a real agency, right?

They are under the US Digital Service, but they are not statuatorily required. Maybe they will rif themselves.

[Anonymous]

Public affairs? External affairs? Executive assistants? Maybe some training? Maybe program where the authorization expired?

Congress could stop requiring reports.

[Anonymous]

So will everyone getting RIF’d (which sounds like most of the govt) get a severance? Doesn’t seem very efficient

[Anonymous]

Lol most of DOJ is not required by statute

[Anonymous]

how much you get paid if you get RIFed?

[Anonymous]

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/implementing-the-presidents-department-of-government-efficiency-workforce-optimization-initiative/