Unidentified drones over NJ/NY/DC

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Anonymous wrote:It would be pretty damn hard to fly a drone "the size of a car" all the way from Iran or China to New Jersey, not unless there's some phenomenal new battery technology that we haven't heard about yet.

My bet is that these are being flown locally, likely by some US-based org or agency

Released from submarines.

I read this is a concern.

They have been testing drones being released from subs for over a decade now:

https://www.nrl.navy.mil/Media/News/Article/2561866/navy-launches-uav-from-submerged-submarine/

China or Russia may be the first to simply start using them. And they're using them for psyops on us or for mapping strategic targets. Why are we allowing this? Shoot them all down or follow them at least.

Democrats love Xi, especially Nancy.

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Anonymous wrote:NJ Congressman Jeff Van Drew says possibly Iranian from mothership off east coast.
https://nypost.com/2024/12/11/us-news/mystery-nj-drones-are-coming-from-iranian-mothership-offshore-congressman-claims-these-drones-should-be-shot-down/
If it's not submarines, it could be a ship idling around in international waters. Surely could have been spotted by passing off shore fishing vessels.

It's not the Iranians. They can't get their S together. If it was Russia, you would not see them. I believe it is China or US gov, but US gov won't do stuff for months on end to antagonize.

Best guess is China letting us know in the face of things heating up in Taiwan.

lol yes they fly them non stop from China to spy on Trump’s golf course. They plan to release his real golf score with video.

The unsettling part is that if they are indeed Chinese drones, we have no idea how they're getting here. Their technology and strategy is mystifying our military minds, because at least on paper China can't be releasing them by all know submarine tech they have. They must have tech that we don't know about and have clandestine operations that are effective. It is exposing a flaw in our defense and intelligence capabilities. That's exactly the message they want to send. Mess around with Taiwan and see what happens. We can easily fly in your airspace, but next time it could be with weaponized drones.

I mean, I don't think they're Chinese drones. If they were not American drones as the authorities claim, they would have already shot some down. But if they were Chinese, launching them would be a simple thing to carry out. You have to consider the vast numbers of Chinese nationals now living in the U.S., both legally and illegally. Who can keep tabs on the illegal ones, or potential bad actors? Nobody. It wouldn't take much to smuggle these into the U.S. via crates full of legal products and have the people in place carry out a plan.

They HAVE to be coming from the ocean. All the sightings are within 100 miles of the coast. If they were being clandestinely launched from the ground here in the US, someone would’ve noticed it. You simply cannot launch an aircraft that size, let alone dozens of them, discreetly. Someone WILL see you. An operation like this would require large vehicles like box trucks just to transport them. Someone would definitely notice a half dozen box trucks assembling in a remote area. Drones that size would be quite loud - certainly louder than a dozen electric leaf blowers running at once, assuming they’re powered by batteries. Even louder if they’re fuel-powered.


The ocean is the ONLY place that makes any sense. Unless they’re deploying from a spacecraft or height altitude balloon.

Since the sightings are all on the east coast, if it’s China or Russia they are probably launching from somewhere they have influence like Africa or Cuba.

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Anonymous wrote:NJ Congressman Jeff Van Drew says possibly Iranian from mothership off east coast.
https://nypost.com/2024/12/11/us-news/mystery-nj-drones-are-coming-from-iranian-mothership-offshore-congressman-claims-these-drones-should-be-shot-down/
If it's not submarines, it could be a ship idling around in international waters. Surely could have been spotted by passing off shore fishing vessels.

It's not the Iranians. They can't get their S together. If it was Russia, you would not see them. I believe it is China or US gov, but US gov won't do stuff for months on end to antagonize.

Best guess is China letting us know in the face of things heating up in Taiwan.

lol yes they fly them non stop from China to spy on Trump’s golf course. They plan to release his real golf score with video.

The unsettling part is that if they are indeed Chinese drones, we have no idea how they're getting here. Their technology and strategy is mystifying our military minds, because at least on paper China can't be releasing them by all know submarine tech they have. They must have tech that we don't know about and have clandestine operations that are effective. It is exposing a flaw in our defense and intelligence capabilities. That's exactly the message they want to send. Mess around with Taiwan and see what happens. We can easily fly in your airspace, but next time it could be with weaponized drones.

I mean, I don't think they're Chinese drones. If they were not American drones as the authorities claim, they would have already shot some down. But if they were Chinese, launching them would be a simple thing to carry out. You have to consider the vast numbers of Chinese nationals now living in the U.S., both legally and illegally. Who can keep tabs on the illegal ones, or potential bad actors? Nobody. It wouldn't take much to smuggle these into the U.S. via crates full of legal products and have the people in place carry out a plan.

They HAVE to be coming from the ocean. All the sightings are within 100 miles of the coast. If they were being clandestinely launched from the ground here in the US, someone would’ve noticed it. You simply cannot launch an aircraft that size, let alone dozens of them, discreetly. Someone WILL see you. An operation like this would require large vehicles like box trucks just to transport them. Someone would definitely notice a half dozen box trucks assembling in a remote area. Drones that size would be quite loud - certainly louder than a dozen electric leaf blowers running at once, assuming they’re powered by batteries. Even louder if they’re fuel-powered.


The ocean is the ONLY place that makes any sense. Unless they’re deploying from a spacecraft or height altitude balloon.

Since the sightings are all on the east coast, if it’s China or Russia they are probably launching from somewhere they have influence like Africa or Cuba.

Democrats don’t care. Why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Numerous drone sightings last night in southern Maryland, near the Calvert Cliffs Nuclear Power Plant. Over a dozen seen by eyewitnesses hovering over the plant and reactor buildings. Saw it on channel 4 this morning.

No video?

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Question for the MAGA trolls. Why hasn't any of your 2nd Amendment militia used their gun rights to shoot some of them out of the sky? I mean this seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like another 911 in the making… ignore the signals. Democrats will be held responsible for allowing this.

Democrat politicians are literally making fun of people who are saying this is a threat. I cannot even wrap my head around that.

Here’s a phenomenon that hundreds of people are observing in the last few days, the FBI says “call them”, the Pentagon says “it’s not our stuff”, they’re showing up near places sensitive to national security….and democrats are literally saying “we don’t know what they are, but everyone needs to calm down because there’s no credible threat”.


Dems have lost their damn minds.

As a Harris voter, the Democratic reaction to this is making me very happy Trump won. This is appalling.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like another 911 in the making… ignore the signals. Democrats will be held responsible for allowing this.

Democrat politicians are literally making fun of people who are saying this is a threat. I cannot even wrap my head around that.

Here’s a phenomenon that hundreds of people are observing in the last few days, the FBI says “call them”, the Pentagon says “it’s not our stuff”, they’re showing up near places sensitive to national security….and democrats are literally saying “we don’t know what they are, but everyone needs to calm down because there’s no credible threat”.


Dems have lost their damn minds.

As a Harris voter, the Democratic reaction to this is making me very happy Trump won. This is appalling.

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:FAA has been impacted by these drones. Doubt it is our own military:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/11/us/new-jersey-drone-sightings-investigation/index.html

Why don’t Democrats care???

Already answered. The same as Trump…nothing.

Seriously, WHY DON’T THEY CARE?

I mean, WTAF? These things are flying all over the place, no one knows anything about it, the FBI is telling the public to call a tip line, and Phil Murphy and other democrats are poo-poo’ing the whole thing, telling people it’s not a threat, and laughing at people - republicans - who are alarmed at this stuff?

Seriously democrats, WTAF are you doing?

Anyone?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would be pretty damn hard to fly a drone "the size of a car" all the way from Iran or China to New Jersey, not unless there's some phenomenal new battery technology that we haven't heard about yet.

My bet is that these are being flown locally, likely by some US-based org or agency

Released from submarines.

I read this is a concern.

They have been testing drones being released from subs for over a decade now:

https://www.nrl.navy.mil/Media/News/Article/2561866/navy-launches-uav-from-submerged-submarine/

China or Russia may be the first to simply start using them. And they're using them for psyops on us or for mapping strategic targets. Why are we allowing this? Shoot them all down or follow them at least.

Democrats love Xi, especially Nancy.

Trump invited Xi to his inauguration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would be pretty damn hard to fly a drone "the size of a car" all the way from Iran or China to New Jersey, not unless there's some phenomenal new battery technology that we haven't heard about yet.

My bet is that these are being flown locally, likely by some US-based org or agency

Released from submarines.

I read this is a concern.

They have been testing drones being released from subs for over a decade now:

https://www.nrl.navy.mil/Media/News/Article/2561866/navy-launches-uav-from-submerged-submarine/

China or Russia may be the first to simply start using them. And they're using them for psyops on us or for mapping strategic targets. Why are we allowing this? Shoot them all down or follow them at least.

Democrats love Xi, especially Nancy.

Trump invited Xi to his inauguration.

Bravo! The Art of the Deal. Xi will not misbehave under Trump. Deal with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NJ Congressman Jeff Van Drew says possibly Iranian from mothership off east coast.
https://nypost.com/2024/12/11/us-news/mystery-nj-drones-are-coming-from-iranian-mothership-offshore-congressman-claims-these-drones-should-be-shot-down/
If it's not submarines, it could be a ship idling around in international waters. Surely could have been spotted by passing off shore fishing vessels.

It's not the Iranians. They can't get their S together. If it was Russia, you would not see them. I believe it is China or US gov, but US gov won't do stuff for months on end to antagonize.

Best guess is China letting us know in the face of things heating up in Taiwan.

lol yes they fly them non stop from China to spy on Trump’s golf course. They plan to release his real golf score with video.

The unsettling part is that if they are indeed Chinese drones, we have no idea how they're getting here. Their technology and strategy is mystifying our military minds, because at least on paper China can't be releasing them by all know submarine tech they have. They must have tech that we don't know about and have clandestine operations that are effective. It is exposing a flaw in our defense and intelligence capabilities. That's exactly the message they want to send. Mess around with Taiwan and see what happens. We can easily fly in your airspace, but next time it could be with weaponized drones.

I mean, I don't think they're Chinese drones. If they were not American drones as the authorities claim, they would have already shot some down. But if they were Chinese, launching them would be a simple thing to carry out. You have to consider the vast numbers of Chinese nationals now living in the U.S., both legally and illegally. Who can keep tabs on the illegal ones, or potential bad actors? Nobody. It wouldn't take much to smuggle these into the U.S. via crates full of legal products and have the people in place carry out a plan.

They HAVE to be coming from the ocean. All the sightings are within 100 miles of the coast. If they were being clandestinely launched from the ground here in the US, someone would’ve noticed it. You simply cannot launch an aircraft that size, let alone dozens of them, discreetly. Someone WILL see you. An operation like this would require large vehicles like box trucks just to transport them. Someone would definitely notice a half dozen box trucks assembling in a remote area. Drones that size would be quite loud - certainly louder than a dozen electric leaf blowers running at once, assuming they’re powered by batteries. Even louder if they’re fuel-powered.


The ocean is the ONLY place that makes any sense. Unless they’re deploying from a spacecraft or height altitude balloon.

Since the sightings are all on the east coast, if it’s China or Russia they are probably launching from somewhere they have influence like Africa or Cuba.

I think a ship or submarine is more likely. Cuba is almost 1,500 miles from NJ. That’s a improbably long way for a rotary winged aircraft to fly.

They COULD also be deployed from a high altitude cargo aircraft, rolled out the back of plane on the ramp into the air under parachute, then the drone starts up and deploys from there.

Or they could be deployed from space, too. A cargo module designed to re-renter the atmosphere, and release the drones as it’s parachuting down.


In all these cases, the drones fly their missions for whatever they’re up to, and then fly out over the ocean and crash into the water at the end of their mission to eliminate any evidence.


Someone is going to have to shoot one of these things down or otherwise force it to land, in order for the govt to be able to figure out what these are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Question for the MAGA trolls. Why hasn't any of your 2nd Amendment militia used their gun rights to shoot some of them out of the sky? I mean this seriously.

Stupid..

They're too high up. Go watch WW2 videos. See how hard it is to shoot down aircraft with conventional ammunition. This is a military op that requires lasers and machine assisted anti drone weaponry that civilians don't have.

[Anonymous]

Go to CVS.

Their systems are down in Maryland

[Anonymous]

White Homes claims these drones are not malicious.

LIARS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Numerous drone sightings last night in southern Maryland, near the Calvert Cliffs Nuclear Power Plant. Over a dozen seen by eyewitnesses hovering over the plant and reactor buildings. Saw it on channel 4 this morning.

No video?

They're in MD. This also follows last month where they saw them for 11 days in a row or whatever in VA over a military base.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/drone-sightings-in-maryland-and-new-jersey-prompt-calls-for-more-oversight/3790266/


Shoot these bastards down NOW.