Dad in our friend group had a mental break and threatened to kill another child in the friend group, advice needed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t understand why a man who would text and send pictures of his gun on the counter is allowed to keep his gun? What state is this? That doesn’t have the ability to remove a gun from the home of someone who is making threats like this?

You must live in a liberal state. This is how much of the country opperates. Red flag laws? What are those? This is why women and children end up dead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t understand why a man who would text and send pictures of his gun on the counter is allowed to keep his gun? What state is this? That doesn’t have the ability to remove a gun from the home of someone who is making threats like this?

Clearly a red state and I am guessing the private school is a religious school.

[Anonymous]

I don’t believe for a minute that there was a man waving his gun around threatening to murder his children , and texting you pictures of his gun and messages saying he was going to murder you, and the police shrugged and said “well he won’t answer the door! Bye!” If A person ks waving a loaded gun and threatening to shoot his kids and neighbors, that is a major crime.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think you need to delete anything. People are so weird about trying to protect the privacy of a batshit crazy drunk threatening to kill an elementary schooler. Won't somebody thing of the Good Guy With A Gun (tm)???

As far as your actions going forward, I'd make sure your kids know that those three girls are welcome at your house but that your kids are never to go to their house. Avoid the dad, take him out of the group text threads, and work as a group to make sure that there's always another parent around at the bus stop (hopefully a sane dad) in case he shows up. Report any further threats to the police, even though you can see that they're useless, because a paper trail could come in handy.

I hate to exclude the kids, but of the dad becomes unstable and his kids are seeking refuge at your house, you and your family are now in his cross hairs.

Yeah I’d unfortunately never let his kids or his wife into my home. I’d also move .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is so bad that I would move, including switching schools to get away from this family. He’s clearly mentally unstable and might act on it at any moment. I wouldn’t risk my family’s lives no matter how convenient or how nice of a community you have built.

+1
If this is real, it's a tragedy waiting to happen

Sadly it is real, but can you really wrap your head around moving and changing your kids' school? We are so happy living here and our kids love their school. Again, I'm not trying to minimize the threat, I am terrified of him, but actually relocating is a lot to wrap my head around.

Having your kids murdered at school by this guy is also a lot to wrap your head around

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are you a third party? Isn't much you can do. Tell the potential victim to get a retraining order.
Stay far away from that dad. I would never trust them again. Wouldn't want them in my house, yard, etc.

I'm sorry this is happening.

We are family of the friend group whose kids ride the bus. We were threatened in his text rants since he knows we disagree with his political views but he didn't come to our house or anything - only said in the text chain that he was going to kill us all. Parents of the child who was specifically mentioned are getting an RO when they return to town. The rest of us were advised that we could get them as well but we're not sure if we should.

What on earth would be the downside

[Anonymous]

The school banning him from premises is gojng to make this hard for him and his wife to ignore. For better or worse, it may push it to a turning point sooner rather than later. I know you mentioned he works from home but I would not be surprised if his employer is also noticing he’s off the rails and that may be an additional pressure point. Hopefully it gets him into a 30 day in patient program, at a minimum.

[Anonymous]

In this situation the family of the girl he threatened should take legal action and call the police.

If he threatened people via text everyone on that thread should screenshot it and report it to the police also.

You should drive your children to school, shun the family, and welcome the wife and daughters into your homes if they are concerned, with a focus on relocating them away from the neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe for a minute that there was a man waving his gun around threatening to murder his children , and texting you pictures of his gun and messages saying he was going to murder you, and the police shrugged and said “well he won’t answer the door! Bye!” If A person ks waving a loaded gun and threatening to shoot his kids and neighbors, that is a major crime.

You are naive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You lost me at 15 families all being close friends with each other, all attending the same private school, which has multiple (!!!) bus stops in the same small neighborhood?

WTH.

What's your point in saying I made this up? Jeff always says if you think someone is a troll then either report them or stay quiet. You do realize that by calling someone a troll all you do is increase the page count and bump the thread up, right?

At my private growing up, my classmates were more scattered than we are here, and when we lived in DC our friends with kids sometimes lived near their private school classmates but not always and generally not as large of a group. But it's how it is here. I don't get why you think just because something isn't how it is near you it must be a lie. In any event, I'm sick of trying to prove I didn't make this up. Ask Jeff if you want. I've posted on other threads so he should be able to confirm that I'm a real person. I'm done responding to calls of a troll.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a wild story. Why didn’t anybody call the cops when he was “ and the dad came to the door with a cocked gun in his hand, waving it around, and ranting that he was going to end it all, he had checked his life insurance policy”?

To answer your question, I could never get past that. I wouldn’t trust him or his wife. I feel bad for their children, but you have to think of your safety first. does he have any criminal records?

And according to the OP, the husband wrestled the gun out of his hands? I don't believe this really happened.

I never said that. I said the dad was able to get the gun away from him, not that he wrestled it away from him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t understand why a man who would text and send pictures of his gun on the counter is allowed to keep his gun? What state is this? That doesn’t have the ability to remove a gun from the home of someone who is making threats like this?

Clearly a red state and I am guessing the private school is a religious school.

It's not a religious school, it's an independent school. Our friend group leans left but this family doesn't. We've always known we don't agree but in the past have ignored him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you a third party? Isn't much you can do. Tell the potential victim to get a retraining order.
Stay far away from that dad. I would never trust them again. Wouldn't want them in my house, yard, etc.

I'm sorry this is happening.

We are family of the friend group whose kids ride the bus. We were threatened in his text rants since he knows we disagree with his political views but he didn't come to our house or anything - only said in the text chain that he was going to kill us all. Parents of the child who was specifically mentioned are getting an RO when they return to town. The rest of us were advised that we could get them as well but we're not sure if we should.

What on earth would be the downside

Provoking him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The school banning him from premises is gojng to make this hard for him and his wife to ignore. For better or worse, it may push it to a turning point sooner rather than later. I know you mentioned he works from home but I would not be surprised if his employer is also noticing he’s off the rails and that may be an additional pressure point. Hopefully it gets him into a 30 day in patient program, at a minimum.

Do you think anyone should tell his employer? Perhaps send them the texts? He does go into the office every once in a while and the thought of him bringing a gun there makes me sick.

We were hoping that he would check in somewhere, although honestly with the relapse rate I'm not sure that would have made us feel any better once he was out...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a wild story. Why didn’t anybody call the cops when he was “ and the dad came to the door with a cocked gun in his hand, waving it around, and ranting that he was going to end it all, he had checked his life insurance policy”?

To answer your question, I could never get past that. I wouldn’t trust him or his wife. I feel bad for their children, but you have to think of your safety first. does he have any criminal records?

And according to the OP, the husband wrestled the gun out of his hands? I don't believe this really happened.

OP never said wrestled, she said "The other dad was able to get the gun away from him and convince him to let the girls go". If you don't believe it happened why are you bothering to post and be wrong at that?

Why is anyone posting? Because this is a public forum and everyone is posting their opinion. I still don't believe the cops weren't' called in this scenario.