Did you get you teen a covid shot?

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Anonymous wrote:To pp who says he would find new pediatrician if they recommended the Covid booster - that is ridiculous. The cdc recommends it so that pediatrician would just be doing their job! Not recommended it would actually go against professional guidelines. I'd be surprised by pediatricians at least not offering the vaccine.

I’m not the PP you’re responding to and I wouldn’t switch pediatricians, even though our teen boys haven’t gotten any boosters. But their pediatrician doesn’t carry the vaccine or recommend it to kids.

I am the PP who said I would find a new pediatrician if ours were "pushing" Covid boosters on my boys. Ours did actually offer boosters to us last year, but when I said that my kids had three shots and weren't getting any more, didn't bat an eye and moved on, and didn't bring it up again at this fall's physical.

I personally don't think they should even offer them because there is no evidence that benefits outweigh the risks, but I know they probably have to due to the CDC recommendation. I would only hold it against them if they insisted and showed that they truly believed it was a good idea.

Hmmm… why do you think the CDC recommends boosters? Do you think the doctors working there are more or less qualified to make recommendations as to infectious diseases than your local pediatrician?

My pediatrician doesn’t recommend the Covid booster for my kids.

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The first series and booster, yes. Nothing since…DC didn’t handle them well (aches, chills, fever, etc.) and is now a legal adult who refuses to do that again, so it’s not my call at this point.

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For those that say kids were equally sick or worse from COVID vaccine than illness, they ignore that the vaccine is scheduled.

My child got Covid vaccine on a Friday. And we planned for a restful weekend. But hardly any side effects. Much better than unexpected and disruptive Covid illness. Of course people get sick, but you are not helpless against illness. Vaccinate. Wash your hands. Sleep. Eat well.

And the immunity lasts longer with a vaccine than illness.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccine-what-you-need-to-know

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Anonymous wrote:of course! they get every booster.

this year we are timing it for late October. That way they will be less likely to have covid over thanksgiving and Christmas when we will be around grandparents and they will still be pretty boosted during the dec thru feb surge that is likely.

I got a Covid booster Dec 1 last year. Took a vacation 12/21 and came home with Covid.

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Anonymous wrote:I promise I'm not a paranoid still wearing masks, but can the folks saying no say why? At this point, why isn't it any different from getting the flu shot?

My teens don't get a flu shot either.

Honestly, we have no idea what the long term effects of yearly shots (like flu shots and Covid shots) will have. So, we pass.

My teens are fully vaccinated otherwise, so I'm not an anti-vaxxer. Just don't see enough benefit to warrant yearly flu/Covid shots.

We also have no idea what the long terms effects of yearly covid infections are. Seems like it’s looking bad for lots of people from what little data we have.

That’s true. We don’t really know. I don’t know anyone who has had covid yearly but I’m sure they exist. Or at least if they did have covid, it was unknown and they weren’t sick.

But we can put the herd immunity argument to rest at least.

My in-laws get regular Covid boosters and also get Covid at least yearly if not more. But they live in a very active 55+ community and are constantly jetting off to their next European river cruise. So far not long term effect so at least that’s good. They are living their best life.

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Anonymous wrote:No European country recommends Covid boosters for kids, so no. The US is an outlier with their indiscriminate recommendation, which is clearly driven by Pfizer lobbying.

What are your thoughts on the US auto lobby?

How is this relevant here? I'm sure it's strong, lol.

The same people that are against European innovations such as functioning public transportation and universal healthcare (they’re socialists! It would never work here! Etc.) suddenly citing European policies and recommendations when it comes to their anti vaccination beliefs just strikes me as funny.

Ha! I figured that was what you were trying to imply. Sorry to break it to you, but I am from Europe, a liberal, firmly in favor of public transportation and universal healthcare, currently losing sleep over the prospect of Trump winning the election, and YET I think American liberals have been crazy in their approach to Covid, particularly school closures, masks, and vaccines. No other country has politicized Covid to this degree, and that you still assume that someone who thinks that teens don't need Covid boosters must be a right-wing "anti-vaxxer" only proves my point. Good luck, America. This shit is what might win Trump the election.

Yes, people who are against routine vaccinations recommended by the CDC (as the Covid boosters are) are a segment of the anti-vaxxer crowd. You have more in common with the Trump supporters than you think.

Vaccinations shouldn’t be politicized, I agree with you there; it is you and your ilk who are firmly against official public health policy recommendations who are the folks politicizing it, however. (“But I did muh own research!” Yeah, we get it.)

Or maybe just like the rest of the world which doesn’t recommend it for people other than the vulnerable or elderly.

Sure. When I lived in a socially responsible European country people literally took off from work and were lined up for hours in the streets the day the shots became available each year.

It makes sense that you’re “from Europe” but you’re here now.

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Anonymous wrote:No European country recommends Covid boosters for kids, so no. The US is an outlier with their indiscriminate recommendation, which is clearly driven by Pfizer lobbying.

What are your thoughts on the US auto lobby?

How is this relevant here? I'm sure it's strong, lol.

The same people that are against European innovations such as functioning public transportation and universal healthcare (they’re socialists! It would never work here! Etc.) suddenly citing European policies and recommendations when it comes to their anti vaccination beliefs just strikes me as funny.

Ha! I figured that was what you were trying to imply. Sorry to break it to you, but I am from Europe, a liberal, firmly in favor of public transportation and universal healthcare, currently losing sleep over the prospect of Trump winning the election, and YET I think American liberals have been crazy in their approach to Covid, particularly school closures, masks, and vaccines. No other country has politicized Covid to this degree, and that you still assume that someone who thinks that teens don't need Covid boosters must be a right-wing "anti-vaxxer" only proves my point. Good luck, America. This shit is what might win Trump the election.

Yes, people who are against routine vaccinations recommended by the CDC (as the Covid boosters are) are a segment of the anti-vaxxer crowd. You have more in common with the Trump supporters than you think.

Vaccinations shouldn’t be politicized, I agree with you there; it is you and your ilk who are firmly against official public health policy recommendations who are the folks politicizing it, however. (“But I did muh own research!” Yeah, we get it.)

Holy moly. Did you even read the PP? You are the nutcase (and truly clueless) for calling them an anti-vaxxer. Sheesh.

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Anonymous wrote:No European country recommends Covid boosters for kids, so no. The US is an outlier with their indiscriminate recommendation, which is clearly driven by Pfizer lobbying.

What are your thoughts on the US auto lobby?

How is this relevant here? I'm sure it's strong, lol.

The same people that are against European innovations such as functioning public transportation and universal healthcare (they’re socialists! It would never work here! Etc.) suddenly citing European policies and recommendations when it comes to their anti vaccination beliefs just strikes me as funny.

Ha! I figured that was what you were trying to imply. Sorry to break it to you, but I am from Europe, a liberal, firmly in favor of public transportation and universal healthcare, currently losing sleep over the prospect of Trump winning the election, and YET I think American liberals have been crazy in their approach to Covid, particularly school closures, masks, and vaccines. No other country has politicized Covid to this degree, and that you still assume that someone who thinks that teens don't need Covid boosters must be a right-wing "anti-vaxxer" only proves my point. Good luck, America. This shit is what might win Trump the election.

Yes, people who are against routine vaccinations recommended by the CDC (as the Covid boosters are) are a segment of the anti-vaxxer crowd. You have more in common with the Trump supporters than you think.

Vaccinations shouldn’t be politicized, I agree with you there; it is you and your ilk who are firmly against official public health policy recommendations who are the folks politicizing it, however. (“But I did muh own research!” Yeah, we get it.)

Or maybe just like the rest of the world which doesn’t recommend it for people other than the vulnerable or elderly.

Sure. When I lived in a socially responsible European country people literally took off from work and were lined up for hours in the streets the day the shots became available each year.

It makes sense that you’re “from Europe” but you’re here now.

We are all from somewhere else. But you’re losing the argument that this is a fringe opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes to the OP question. It will help against any variant. Booster might not be identical to current variant but still helps in reducing severity regardless of health or age. Wait 3 months from last infection if that’s a consideration. Thats what our pediatrician said and our family dr for us adults.

The new vaccine is out, btw. But I wait for November to cover me over the holidays.

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My teen DD feels strongly about getting it too! Isn't that funny? I think she's worried about getting sick and missing school, but she never had any serious illness in the past. She's just cautious or listens to friends I guess.

Teen boy, I'm going to skip and trust in the herd immunity of the house. I'm still too nervous from the teen boy news which may be ignorant of me, and I apologize.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes to the OP question. It will help against any variant. Booster might not be identical to current variant but still helps in reducing severity regardless of health or age. Wait 3 months from last infection if that’s a consideration. Thats what our pediatrician said and our family dr for us adults.

The new vaccine is out, btw. But I wait for November to cover me over the holidays.

Do you also stay home all the time other than the holidays? Because Covid is everywhere right now.

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Anonymous wrote:No European country recommends Covid boosters for kids, so no. The US is an outlier with their indiscriminate recommendation, which is clearly driven by Pfizer lobbying.

What are your thoughts on the US auto lobby?

How is this relevant here? I'm sure it's strong, lol.

The same people that are against European innovations such as functioning public transportation and universal healthcare (they’re socialists! It would never work here! Etc.) suddenly citing European policies and recommendations when it comes to their anti vaccination beliefs just strikes me as funny.

Ha! I figured that was what you were trying to imply. Sorry to break it to you, but I am from Europe, a liberal, firmly in favor of public transportation and universal healthcare, currently losing sleep over the prospect of Trump winning the election, and YET I think American liberals have been crazy in their approach to Covid, particularly school closures, masks, and vaccines. No other country has politicized Covid to this degree, and that you still assume that someone who thinks that teens don't need Covid boosters must be a right-wing "anti-vaxxer" only proves my point. Good luck, America. This shit is what might win Trump the election.

Yes, people who are against routine vaccinations recommended by the CDC (as the Covid boosters are) are a segment of the anti-vaxxer crowd. You have more in common with the Trump supporters than you think.

Vaccinations shouldn’t be politicized, I agree with you there; it is you and your ilk who are firmly against official public health policy recommendations who are the folks politicizing it, however. (“But I did muh own research!” Yeah, we get it.)

Holy moly. Did you even read the PP? You are the nutcase (and truly clueless) for calling them an anti-vaxxer. Sheesh.

The person who is against vaccinations is not an anti-vaxxer?

Holy moly is right.

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Anonymous wrote:To pp who says he would find new pediatrician if they recommended the Covid booster - that is ridiculous. The cdc recommends it so that pediatrician would just be doing their job! Not recommended it would actually go against professional guidelines. I'd be surprised by pediatricians at least not offering the vaccine.

I’m not the PP you’re responding to and I wouldn’t switch pediatricians, even though our teen boys haven’t gotten any boosters. But their pediatrician doesn’t carry the vaccine or recommend it to kids.

I am the PP who said I would find a new pediatrician if ours were "pushing" Covid boosters on my boys. Ours did actually offer boosters to us last year, but when I said that my kids had three shots and weren't getting any more, didn't bat an eye and moved on, and didn't bring it up again at this fall's physical.

I personally don't think they should even offer them because there is no evidence that benefits outweigh the risks, but I know they probably have to due to the CDC recommendation. I would only hold it against them if they insisted and showed that they truly believed it was a good idea.

Hmmm… why do you think the CDC recommends boosters? Do you think the doctors working there are more or less qualified to make recommendations as to infectious diseases than your local pediatrician?

Why doesn't anyone every grapple with the fact that NO OTHER PEER country recommends COVID boosters for kids/teens? Are we so sure only the US gets this right (and every other country/UK/Europe etc gets it wrong)?

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Anonymous wrote:No European country recommends Covid boosters for kids, so no. The US is an outlier with their indiscriminate recommendation, which is clearly driven by Pfizer lobbying.

What are your thoughts on the US auto lobby?

How is this relevant here? I'm sure it's strong, lol.

The same people that are against European innovations such as functioning public transportation and universal healthcare (they’re socialists! It would never work here! Etc.) suddenly citing European policies and recommendations when it comes to their anti vaccination beliefs just strikes me as funny.

Ha! I figured that was what you were trying to imply. Sorry to break it to you, but I am from Europe, a liberal, firmly in favor of public transportation and universal healthcare, currently losing sleep over the prospect of Trump winning the election, and YET I think American liberals have been crazy in their approach to Covid, particularly school closures, masks, and vaccines. No other country has politicized Covid to this degree, and that you still assume that someone who thinks that teens don't need Covid boosters must be a right-wing "anti-vaxxer" only proves my point. Good luck, America. This shit is what might win Trump the election.

Yes, people who are against routine vaccinations recommended by the CDC (as the Covid boosters are) are a segment of the anti-vaxxer crowd. You have more in common with the Trump supporters than you think.

Vaccinations shouldn’t be politicized, I agree with you there; it is you and your ilk who are firmly against official public health policy recommendations who are the folks politicizing it, however. (“But I did muh own research!” Yeah, we get it.)

Or maybe just like the rest of the world which doesn’t recommend it for people other than the vulnerable or elderly.

Sure. When I lived in a socially responsible European country people literally took off from work and were lined up for hours in the streets the day the shots became available each year.

It makes sense that you’re “from Europe” but you’re here now.

We are all from somewhere else. But you’re losing the argument that this is a fringe opinion.

It’s an illogical opinion.

And we are not all from somewhere else. Most Americans are from the United States.

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Anonymous wrote:To pp who says he would find new pediatrician if they recommended the Covid booster - that is ridiculous. The cdc recommends it so that pediatrician would just be doing their job! Not recommended it would actually go against professional guidelines. I'd be surprised by pediatricians at least not offering the vaccine.

I’m not the PP you’re responding to and I wouldn’t switch pediatricians, even though our teen boys haven’t gotten any boosters. But their pediatrician doesn’t carry the vaccine or recommend it to kids.

I am the PP who said I would find a new pediatrician if ours were "pushing" Covid boosters on my boys. Ours did actually offer boosters to us last year, but when I said that my kids had three shots and weren't getting any more, didn't bat an eye and moved on, and didn't bring it up again at this fall's physical.

I personally don't think they should even offer them because there is no evidence that benefits outweigh the risks, but I know they probably have to due to the CDC recommendation. I would only hold it against them if they insisted and showed that they truly believed it was a good idea.

Hmmm… why do you think the CDC recommends boosters? Do you think the doctors working there are more or less qualified to make recommendations as to infectious diseases than your local pediatrician?

Why doesn't anyone every grapple with the fact that NO OTHER PEER country recommends COVID boosters for kids/teens? Are we so sure only the US gets this right (and every other country/UK/Europe etc gets it wrong)?

Most other countries recommendations have nothing whatsoever to do with vaccine “risk” to young people, which is what most of the anti-vaxxers (who don’t want to be called anti-vaxxers) are arguing in this thread. Their recommendations have to do with cost and resource allocation.

We can afford it, so we recommend it. It’s that simple.