Black Voters Drift From Democrats, Imperiling Harris’s Bid, Poll Shows

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Anonymous wrote:As a black woman, I am not going to be continuously disrespected by the R party and be told I'm supposed to support them. For what? I already make a ton of money. I don't need sh*t from from the R party.


How are you “as a black woman” disrespected by the R party?
This sounds like you are just repeating things you’ve heard rather than actually experienced.
Please explain to me how you can vote for the party of segregationists but feel “disrespected” by republicans? Please make it make sense.
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Anonymous wrote:Democrats haven’t done anything to benefit black people. They cater to illegal immigrants. You should see some of the town halls where members of the black community ask why public resources are being lavished on providing for illegal immigrants while their communities receive nothing.


Real black wages are sharply higher under Biden than Trump.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LEU0252884600Q



Also, what about selecting a Black vice president and a Black Supreme Court Justice? Does that mean nothing?

How does trotting out two Black people I don’t know from Adam, disrespecting them by making clear that their race is the only reason you chose them despite their amazing credentials, and then giving them jobs help me out? I’m supposed to be grateful because you let a handful of highly qualified Black people shine only after making them out to be affirmative action hires? I absolutely hate how white Democrats talk about Harris and KBJ, and, by extension, every Black person who has gotten somewhere in life.


If you think Harris and KBJ are affirmative action hires, that's a you problem. Were you similarly offended by the nomination and confirmation of Clarence Thomas?

Also, are you a real person, or just a Republican talking point in digital form?


NP. Biden saying he is going to fill these roles only with black women makes it an affirmative action move. Refusing to look at 94% of the population makes them DEI candidates.


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I would never have thought they were specifically hired for their color and gender if Biden hadn’t specifically stated that he intended to select based on color and gender.
I simply choose to believ him when he said out loud that these positions were going to be DEI selections.
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Anonymous wrote:Democrats haven’t done anything to benefit black people. They cater to illegal immigrants. You should see some of the town halls where members of the black community ask why public resources are being lavished on providing for illegal immigrants while their communities receive nothing.


Real black wages are sharply higher under Biden than Trump.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LEU0252884600Q



Also, what about selecting a Black vice president and a Black Supreme Court Justice? Does that mean nothing?

How does trotting out two Black people I don’t know from Adam, disrespecting them by making clear that their race is the only reason you chose them despite their amazing credentials, and then giving them jobs help me out? I’m supposed to be grateful because you let a handful of highly qualified Black people shine only after making them out to be affirmative action hires? I absolutely hate how white Democrats talk about Harris and KBJ, and, by extension, every Black person who has gotten somewhere in life.


If you think Harris and KBJ are affirmative action hires, that's a you problem. Were you similarly offended by the nomination and confirmation of Clarence Thomas?

Also, are you a real person, or just a Republican talking point in digital form?


NP. Biden saying he is going to fill these roles only with black women makes it an affirmative action move. Refusing to look at 94% of the population makes them DEI candidates.


This.
I would never have thought they were specifically hired for their color and gender if Biden hadn’t specifically stated that he intended to select based on color and gender.
I simply choose to believ him when he said out loud that these positions were going to be DEI selections.


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So weird when this party pushes and pushes for everyone to adopt DEI practices and then gets offended when it’s pointed out that DEI was implemented. It’s like “but if it is such a great idea—why aren’t you defending this practice as amazing?!?!”
You can’t champion the practice and then hide from it when it’s used.
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Anonymous wrote:Democrats haven’t done anything to benefit black people. They cater to illegal immigrants. You should see some of the town halls where members of the black community ask why public resources are being lavished on providing for illegal immigrants while their communities receive nothing.

So we fix this by electing the racist guy?


Are you a black American and do you think Trump is racist?


I’d bet my entire life savings that he privately is. Just look at who he surrounded himself with during his first administrations. Largely white males.
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Anonymous wrote:Good article from the NYT today
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/14/briefing/hispanic-black-americans-election-poll.html?unlocked_article_code=1.SE4.Fq36.j6L9fmLwWO-E&smid=url-share


So Americans of color like the patriarchy? This should be interesting.


This response about the "patriarchy" is 100% why Dems are not going to win the election. Most Americans don't view everything as related to gender or race. Stop using language social justice warrior language, normal people don't talk like this.


That’s ridiculous. What is the patriarchy? It’s shorthand for two uber-wealthy white dudes throwing bread and circuses for the masses, while they profit off their insider info and own regulations. Where are the non-white dudes around Trump? Where are the women around Trump? They’ve shown their disdain over and over again for anyone who’s not like them. Vance eschews hillbillies who didn’t pull themselves up by their bootstraps like he did in his book.

If you are happy with white men dictating what you can and cannot do, vote for those narcissists, one of whom said a group of black immigrants eats cats and has gone out of his way to make sure blacks wouldn’t get leases in his buildings.

Like I said, I’m sure it will be interesting.
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Anonymous wrote:Good article from the NYT today
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/14/briefing/hispanic-black-americans-election-poll.html?unlocked_article_code=1.SE4.Fq36.j6L9fmLwWO-E&smid=url-share


So Americans of color like the patriarchy? This should be interesting.


This response about the "patriarchy" is 100% why Dems are not going to win the election. Most Americans don't view everything as related to gender or race. Stop using language social justice warrior language, normal people don't talk like this.


That’s ridiculous. What is the patriarchy? It’s shorthand for two uber-wealthy white dudes throwing bread and circuses for the masses, while they profit off their insider info and own regulations. Where are the non-white dudes around Trump? Where are the women around Trump? They’ve shown their disdain over and over again for anyone who’s not like them. Vance eschews hillbillies who didn’t pull themselves up by their bootstraps like he did in his book.

If you are happy with white men dictating what you can and cannot do, vote for those narcissists, one of whom said a group of black immigrants eats cats and has gone out of his way to make sure blacks wouldn’t get leases in his buildings.

Like I said, I’m sure it will be interesting.



Disdain? No, THIS is disdain.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhcgmwj3NAc[youtube]

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Anonymous wrote:Good article from the NYT today
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/14/briefing/hispanic-black-americans-election-poll.html?unlocked_article_code=1.SE4.Fq36.j6L9fmLwWO-E&smid=url-share


So Americans of color like the patriarchy? This should be interesting.


This response about the "patriarchy" is 100% why Dems are not going to win the election. Most Americans don't view everything as related to gender or race. Stop using language social justice warrior language, normal people don't talk like this.


That’s ridiculous. What is the patriarchy? It’s shorthand for two uber-wealthy white dudes throwing bread and circuses for the masses, while they profit off their insider info and own regulations. Where are the non-white dudes around Trump? Where are the women around Trump? They’ve shown their disdain over and over again for anyone who’s not like them. Vance eschews hillbillies who didn’t pull themselves up by their bootstraps like he did in his book.

If you are happy with white men dictating what you can and cannot do, vote for those narcissists, one of whom said a group of black immigrants eats cats and has gone out of his way to make sure blacks wouldn’t get leases in his buildings.

Like I said, I’m sure it will be interesting.



Disdain? No, THIS is disdain.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhcgmwj3NAc[youtube]



LOL. I hope Trump gets you your black job back.
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Election is getting close. The stress fractures are appearing.
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Democrats act as if they own the black community. Biden said, “if you don’t vote for me, you ain’t black!” That speaks volumes about the attitude of the white Democrat establishment towards black people.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a democratic pollster. Internals show this same trend. We're worried. Very worried. Please get the vote out.


Dare to say that not going the mini-primary route in favor of what was deemed to be the safe option was a colossal mistake. The whole case for Kamala was predicated on turnout among black voters.


This.
People are pissed that they had no say and that the powers that be didn’t listen when we tried to tell them in 2020 that we don’t like her.
Kamala didn’t win one vote when she ran for President in 2020 (dropped out before primaries and was polling at 1%. 1%!!! No one likes her.)
Crowning her candidacy by backdoor behind-the-scenes elitist selection was really dumb. And then we’re supposed to swallow that the other party is the one that is a “threat to democracy?” Please.
What is this if not an installed presidency?

? they are so pissed that they'd rather have a MAGA R in the WH? I think that's called "cut off my nose to spite my face" strategy.
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"It's the economy stupid." James Carville
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Anonymous wrote:Democrats haven’t done anything to benefit black people. They cater to illegal immigrants. You should see some of the town halls where members of the black community ask why public resources are being lavished on providing for illegal immigrants while their communities receive nothing.

So we fix this by electing the racist guy?


Are you a black American and do you think Trump is racist?


NP not who you were asking but yes and I do not think Trump is a racist. I don't subscribe to the bs that mass media perpetuated. Biden has done nothing for blacks so I'm voting Trump.

Other than getting close to 400,000 Black folks killed due to his incompetence and nonchalant behavior, what else did Trump do for Black people?


Could you provide a citation for this?

If you really were interested, you could have easily used your fingers and googled or binged for yourself. But I know you don’t really care. Anyway, here’s some reading. It’s in the details. There’s more data, but I’m not going shopping.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9817424/

https://www.kff.org/racial-equity-and-health-policy/issue-brief/covid-19-cases-and-deaths-by-race-ethnicity-current-data-and-changes-over-time/


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Maybe it's a trade off with the old white people who have drifted from Republicans and are now voting for Harris instead of Trump?



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Anonymous wrote:"It's the economy stupid." James Carville


Black unemployment reaching historic lows under the Biden administration. Thanks, Joe!

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS14000006
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Anonymous wrote:I'm a democratic pollster. Internals show this same trend. We're worried. Very worried. Please get the vote out.


Dare to say that not going the mini-primary route in favor of what was deemed to be the safe option was a colossal mistake. The whole case for Kamala was predicated on turnout among black voters.


This.
People are pissed that they had no say and that the powers that be didn’t listen when we tried to tell them in 2020 that we don’t like her.
Kamala didn’t win one vote when she ran for President in 2020 (dropped out before primaries and was polling at 1%. 1%!!! No one likes her.)
Crowning her candidacy by backdoor behind-the-scenes elitist selection was really dumb. And then we’re supposed to swallow that the other party is the one that is a “threat to democracy?” Please.
What is this if not an installed presidency?


This is such transparently fake “concern” and a stupid “issue”

People voted the Biden-Harris ticket and Biden stepped down so of course she stepped up. The idea that her candidacy was “behind the scenes elitist selection” is the exact opposite of what happened— those people arguing for a “mini primary” are the ones who would have “installed” a nominee through back room processes.

But the real tell is to try and compare the how the Democrats chose their new nominee when the Biden stepped down to Trump’s threats to punish anyone who disagrees with him— to kick news stations off the air if they fact check him, to call out the military to quash protests, to jail people who criticize the supreme court, to set up internment camps for people he thinks shouldn’t be here etc.
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