Dockworker’s strike

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Anonymous wrote:Why even bring up your uncle then? What was the purpose?


He is cackling with delight that shelves will be empty and after the pandemic inflation, the orange sun king will return.

Basically he wants the union to do Trump’s bidding and make Biden Harris look bad.


Have you looked at the Longshoremans’ demands? They don’t mention a single candidate. They are about wages and automation only.


Demands for increased wages are reasonable but people need to stop demanding limits on automation.

Automation will inevitably replace expensive workers.


Young guy who works for my son told me last week his gf's department at US bank all got offshored to Poland, she managed to move to a different department. But also last year they had some contest (I think this was for the local US Bank branches) for employees to suggest new efficiencies. Autistic guy who worked there developed code to change process in his dept to AI and gave it to them. He won the $1000 prize but the solution ended his own job.

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LOL

Workers want a 70% pay increase.
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Anonymous wrote:This is about unions trying to sabotage the economy in order to throw the election to trump. That’s ALL this is.

The average dock worker earns $300,000/yr!!! I have an advanced degree and work in public service and I don’t earn that much! These are basically knuckleheads with no education who operate equipment, they’re overpaid as it is.

This is political interference. The DoJ needs to look into this immediately.


Boo Hoo. Hard physical work that provides the commodities and manufactured products necessary for civilization makes more money than your non-essential, sap sucking, parasitic, sloppy, slovenly “work” probably remotely performed in your PJs.


You do know that longshoremen don't unload ships by hand, right? There are... buttons they press.


I mean, it's hard work operating those cranes and repairing them, and so think they should be paid fairly and more than they are. However, they aren't lugging crates on their backs anymore.

It's really too bad the Teamsters don't endorse Democrats anymore, and are aligned more with anti union republicans. Not the way to get a pay increase and better working conditions, folks.



Right? Not sure what the strategy is here. So unions are threatening to deprive the entire Eastern seaboard of food and goods a few weeks before a national election, thereby effectively ensuring a Republican victory in November. Unions have somehow concluded that Trump and the GOP are their natural allies? Never mind that just yesterday Trump was rambling about how much he hates paying overtime. This is who unions have decided to champion.

Brilliant. If I'm a Democrat in office watching this, I would turn on unions so fast - just for the mendacity alone. Clearly, unions are run by morons. Absolutely no one in America is going to side with extremely well-paid longshoremen who are going to be costing this country $5 billion per day with their actions plus food shortages plus a massive inflationary spike. It's blackmail on all Americans. And it effectively becomes a national security crisis.


The Dems flooded the US with over 10 million illegal aliens who compete with union workers for construction jobs.


10 million isn't the right number and you clearly don't know who unions and union jobs work if you believe that. Also, even if what you typed is true, then why not hold the employers responsible for hiring undocumented workers?

Great idea. Now let's think back to third grade civics. Which branch of government is responsible for enforcing laws on the books? That would be the executive branch. Biden stopped holding employers responsible in 2021. So in review, this administration allowed millions to flood over our border and then stopped enforcement of the magnet that brings them here.


No, you don't get to claim this as if it is something new. I mean Trump literally employees undocumented migrants om his properties and did while he was president. You want those laws enforced? Pass the legislation that funds the enforcement. Trump told the GOP not to pass it, that is all you should need to know.


There are already laws on the books that are currently not being enforced!

I do get to claim the truth.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/12/politics/ice-workplace-raids/index.html


That article had a link to a story about the raids themselves. No mention of a single employer facing any kind of criminal or even regulatory adverse action--even though besides employing undocumented workers, the exploitation of said workers is extreme.
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Anonymous wrote:Unions have no business meddling in politics. This amounts to election interference, trying to destroy the economy a month before the election. They need to be in prison.


Uh huh. I see.

https://www.freightwaves.com/news/international-longshoremens-association-backs-biden
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Anonymous wrote:This is about unions trying to sabotage the economy in order to throw the election to trump. That’s ALL this is.

The average dock worker earns $300,000/yr!!! I have an advanced degree and work in public service and I don’t earn that much! These are basically knuckleheads with no education who operate equipment, they’re overpaid as it is.

This is political interference. The DoJ needs to look into this immediately.


Boo Hoo. Hard physical work that provides the commodities and manufactured products necessary for civilization makes more money than your non-essential, sap sucking, parasitic, sloppy, slovenly “work” probably remotely performed in your PJs.


You do know that longshoremen don't unload ships by hand, right? There are... buttons they press.


I mean, it's hard work operating those cranes and repairing them, and so think they should be paid fairly and more than they are. However, they aren't lugging crates on their backs anymore.

It's really too bad the Teamsters don't endorse Democrats anymore, and are aligned more with anti union republicans. Not the way to get a pay increase and better working conditions, folks.



Right? Not sure what the strategy is here. So unions are threatening to deprive the entire Eastern seaboard of food and goods a few weeks before a national election, thereby effectively ensuring a Republican victory in November. Unions have somehow concluded that Trump and the GOP are their natural allies? Never mind that just yesterday Trump was rambling about how much he hates paying overtime. This is who unions have decided to champion.

Brilliant. If I'm a Democrat in office watching this, I would turn on unions so fast - just for the mendacity alone. Clearly, unions are run by morons. Absolutely no one in America is going to side with extremely well-paid longshoremen who are going to be costing this country $5 billion per day with their actions plus food shortages plus a massive inflationary spike. It's blackmail on all Americans. And it effectively becomes a national security crisis.


The Dems flooded the US with over 10 million illegal aliens who compete with union workers for construction jobs.


10 million isn't the right number and you clearly don't know who unions and union jobs work if you believe that. Also, even if what you typed is true, then why not hold the employers responsible for hiring undocumented workers?

Great idea. Now let's think back to third grade civics. Which branch of government is responsible for enforcing laws on the books? That would be the executive branch. Biden stopped holding employers responsible in 2021. So in review, this administration allowed millions to flood over our border and then stopped enforcement of the magnet that brings them here.


No, you don't get to claim this as if it is something new. I mean Trump literally employees undocumented migrants om his properties and did while he was president. You want those laws enforced? Pass the legislation that funds the enforcement. Trump told the GOP not to pass it, that is all you should need to know.


There are already laws on the books that are currently not being enforced!

I do get to claim the truth.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/12/politics/ice-workplace-raids/index.html


That article had a link to a story about the raids themselves. No mention of a single employer facing any kind of criminal or even regulatory adverse action--even though besides employing undocumented workers, the exploitation of said workers is extreme.


Reduced profit due to disruption is a fate worse than criminal or regulatory action or death.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unions have no business meddling in politics. This amounts to election interference, trying to destroy the economy a month before the election. They need to be in prison.


Uh huh. I see.

https://www.freightwaves.com/news/international-longshoremens-association-backs-biden


2020
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why even bring up your uncle then? What was the purpose?


He is cackling with delight that shelves will be empty and after the pandemic inflation, the orange sun king will return.

Basically he wants the union to do Trump’s bidding and make Biden Harris look bad.


Have you looked at the Longshoremans’ demands? They don’t mention a single candidate. They are about wages and automation only.


Demands for increased wages are reasonable but people need to stop demanding limits on automation.

Automation will inevitably replace expensive workers.


Automation is coming for your job too. Humans having jobs is more important than maximum profit.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unions have no business meddling in politics. This amounts to election interference, trying to destroy the economy a month before the election. They need to be in prison.


Uh huh. I see.

https://www.freightwaves.com/news/international-longshoremens-association-backs-biden


https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/25/dockworkers-strike-disrupt-economy-election-00181005
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Anonymous wrote:What's worse - Biden mentioning collective bargaining yesterday or both sides meeting last week for the first time since June?


Since JUNE??


June? They sat on this for SIX YEARS.
In exchange for their natural monopoly on the ports, they should be extending contracts every year or two, years in advance, guaranteeing consistent operations, or leaders should face legal eviction from leadership positions.

Of course, that would make them more responsibile and accountabile than Congress
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Anonymous wrote:What's worse - Biden mentioning collective bargaining yesterday or both sides meeting last week for the first time since June?


Since JUNE??


It is clear now that the head of this union is a Trump supporter and has not been negotiating in good faith and wants this work stoppage to make Biden look bad.
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Workers want a 70% pay increase.


Correction, they want a 77% increase and turned down a 50% increase (over 6 years).
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The Automation Effect At Ports Of LA And Long Beach

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Lonbgshoreman - Let's get the money while we can because we don't have long as automation hits.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unions have no business meddling in politics. This amounts to election interference, trying to destroy the economy a month before the election. They need to be in prison.


Uh huh. I see.

https://www.freightwaves.com/news/international-longshoremens-association-backs-biden


2020



Hey democrats, this is what you supported.


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