WSJ -Sorry, Harvard. Everyone Wants to go to School in the South

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Even on DCUM, HYS isn't a thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Once upon a time, the Ivies were where the rich and well-connected sent their kids to meet other rich and well-connected kids. The student body has changed tremendously and is now full of first gen kids with no connections and who have completely different backgrounds than the old guard. The Ivies are becoming less appealing to the old guard now that their kids are as likely to rub elbows with other kids of elites at the private dorms or in some of the frats at big SEC schools or schools like SMU or Tulane.

My kid’s roommate is old $$$ billionaire family at his Ivy. They are still sending their kids to Ivies—-FFS ha. They are t all the sudden sending them to Alabama

These dummies think if they state it, it’s true. They obviously don’t have kids at Ivies.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/sports/baseball/detroit-tigers-mlb-playoffs-35e7b03c?st=ie351c&reflink=article_copyURL_share

A growing number of high-school seniors in the North are making an unexpected choice for college: They are heading to Clemson, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Alabama and other universities in the South.

Students say they are searching for the fun and school spirit emanating from the South on their social-media feeds. Their parents cite lower tuition and less debt, and warmer weather. College counselors also say many teens are eager to trade the political polarization ripping apart campuses in New England and New York for the sense of community epitomized by the South’s football Saturdays. Promising job prospects after graduation can sweeten the pot.

The number of Northerners going to Southern public schools went up 84% over the past two decades, and jumped 30% from 2018 to 2022, a Wall Street Journal analysis of the latest available Education Department data found.

At the University of Tennessee in Knoxville, total freshmen from the Northeast jumped to nearly 600 in a class of about 6,800, up from around 50 in 2002. At the University of Mississippi, in Oxford, they increased from 11 to more than 200 in a class of about 4,500 in 2022. At the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa, 11% of students came from the Northeast in 2022, compared with less than 1% two decades prior.

NP. It’s because colleges in the northeast have become grim, depressing, and expensive. Also, the student bodies are made up of Tracy Flicks that can’t be trusted.

Kids who want a good education but don’t want to worry about their lab partners sabotaging them to get .5 more points on a quiz or reporting them to the administration for wrongthink are headed south.

Does not happen. That is a pile of rumor mill copium for those who do not get into ivies or other top schools. Application numbers hit record highs AGAIN for most ivies and other top schools last yr . There is no shortage of demand or some turn of the tide away. The “move” to the south is for above-average kids who previously would have accepted their fate and gone with the similar high school peers to Suny or rutgers or uconn or umass have decided they want to go OOS south. To be “different “ and feel special for going out of state to a relatively less known school where less peers are and they can brag about how novel it is. Meanwhile above-average kids in Georgia who cannot get in UGA have to leave forOle Miss or Bama. The top kids in the northeast and midatlantic still aim for ivies and the like. Even in Virginia, every person who “chooses more south” such as Clemson or UGA is not choosing that over UVA or Georgetown or ivies. They are not getting in to those schools and they would rather UGA over JMU or VCU. Copium, plain and simple.

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Anonymous wrote:From The Southeast. Private colleges up North have been a tough sell for many top students down here, even before the pandemic. It’s hard to beat tuition incentives such as Georgia’s Zell Miller and Hope scholarships and Florida’s Bright Futures for in-state students. People down here are incredibly loyal to and enthusiastic about their state flagships.

Also, let's not pretend that MOST of the kids choosing the southern schools have a good shot of getting in some of the top NE schools. Because they just don't.

Cite?

You need a cite to show you that most kids are rejected from schools like Harvard, Princeton, and Yale? Have you been living under a rock?

You need a cite to show that kids applying to Alabama also applied to HYP.

A co-workers son who was a National Merit Scholar got into Princeton but chose University of Alabama honors college. He got tuition for 5 years (and extra year of undergrad or grad school), 4 years room and board, $4,000 stipend for expenses plus and $2,000 guaranteed research stipend.

They make around $300,000 -350,000 and didn’t get much aid from Princeton. Financially it didn’t make sense for them to blow $250,000 when they could save that money and give their child a down payment for a house or fund medical school.

Son is loving it there. He js amazed how friendly everyone is. Absolutely loves his honors college friends. Princeton has grade deflation which is awful for applying to graduate or med school. And when he toured the students didn’t seem excited to be there. He thought many students seemed stressed and/or depressed.

Princeton has “low” grades compared to ivies. Meaning the avg GPA is 3.65-7 rather than 3.75-8. Cs are rare there, even in the hardest classes only about 25% get a C for the semester and it is much less in upper levels, as the mean is set higher. Huge mistake to pick Alabama over princeton, with that income.

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Anonymous wrote:Once upon a time, the Ivies were where the rich and well-connected sent their kids to meet other rich and well-connected kids. The student body has changed tremendously and is now full of first gen kids with no connections and who have completely different backgrounds than the old guard. The Ivies are becoming less appealing to the old guard now that their kids are as likely to rub elbows with other kids of elites at the private dorms or in some of the frats at big SEC schools or schools like SMU or Tulane.

My kid’s roommate is old $$$ billionaire family at his Ivy. They are still sending their kids to Ivies—-FFS ha. They are t all the sudden sending them to Alabama

These dummies think if they state it, it’s true. They obviously don’t have kids at Ivies.

Truth.

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Anonymous wrote:From The Southeast. Private colleges up North have been a tough sell for many top students down here, even before the pandemic. It’s hard to beat tuition incentives such as Georgia’s Zell Miller and Hope scholarships and Florida’s Bright Futures for in-state students. People down here are incredibly loyal to and enthusiastic about their state flagships.

Also, let's not pretend that MOST of the kids choosing the southern schools have a good shot of getting in some of the top NE schools. Because they just don't.

You are just wrong, although likely too myopic to believe it.

How am I wrong? You're saying the kids applying to Alabama, South Carolina, Clemson, etc. are also applying -and getting in- to HYP? Bullsh--. For one, the profiles/vibe of these schools is completely different. For 2, the stats to get into those southern schools is less than Ivies and a good many of the NE SLACs.

And to be clear, I went to neither of these types of schools. I went to a large, no-name school in the midwest that no one on this board would even consider.

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Anonymous wrote:Once upon a time, the Ivies were where the rich and well-connected sent their kids to meet other rich and well-connected kids. The student body has changed tremendously and is now full of first gen kids with no connections and who have completely different backgrounds than the old guard. The Ivies are becoming less appealing to the old guard now that their kids are as likely to rub elbows with other kids of elites at the private dorms or in some of the frats at big SEC schools or schools like SMU or Tulane.

My kid’s roommate is old $$$ billionaire family at his Ivy. They are still sending their kids to Ivies—-FFS ha. They are t all the sudden sending them to Alabama

Ok

But until you’ve set foot on a SEC campus, you aren’t likely to appreciate the wealth there. It’s shocking.

My kid is at a school in the south and the stories they share about their friends and other kids they hang with are unbelievable: the houses, cars, trips, etc. and throwing down credit cards for shopping sprees and parties. It’s not unusual for Daddy and his golf buddies to fly on his private plane for a football game.

We are just the schmuck worker bees aiming for ivies for our kids while those you call dummies are the ones who will own the companies the smart kids will scramble to work for.

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Anonymous wrote:Better weather, better sports teams, solid education, no pro Hamas protests, great place for today’s growing number of conservative youth.

Look upUNC lately. Big, southern, yet lots of pro hamas SJP . Oh you did not mean unc? Of course not because that is much more difficult to get into OOS than Alabama or Auburn or UTK.
“South is cool” is trending because the easy to get into southern schools are cool because the non-intellectual kids who flock there have zero chance at the good southern schools OR the good northeastern schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Once upon a time, the Ivies were where the rich and well-connected sent their kids to meet other rich and well-connected kids. The student body has changed tremendously and is now full of first gen kids with no connections and who have completely different backgrounds than the old guard. The Ivies are becoming less appealing to the old guard now that their kids are as likely to rub elbows with other kids of elites at the private dorms or in some of the frats at big SEC schools or schools like SMU or Tulane.

My kid’s roommate is old $$$ billionaire family at his Ivy. They are still sending their kids to Ivies—-FFS ha. They are t all the sudden sending them to Alabama

Ok

But until you’ve set foot on a SEC campus, you aren’t likely to appreciate the wealth there. It’s shocking.

My kid is at a school in the south and the stories they share about their friends and other kids they hang with are unbelievable: the houses, cars, trips, etc. and throwing down credit cards for shopping sprees and parties. It’s not unusual for Daddy and his golf buddies to fly on his private plane for a football game.

We are just the schmuck worker bees aiming for ivies for our kids while those you call dummies are the ones who will own the companies the smart kids will scramble to work for.

Trashy flashy wealth will never be seen as the same as understated wealth, and smart yet not wealthy does better over a lifetime than average and inherited dad’s money. The ivies and elite privates are not fading. You keep telling yourself they are: it won’t make it true.

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Anonymous wrote:Once upon a time, the Ivies were where the rich and well-connected sent their kids to meet other rich and well-connected kids. The student body has changed tremendously and is now full of first gen kids with no connections and who have completely different backgrounds than the old guard. The Ivies are becoming less appealing to the old guard now that their kids are as likely to rub elbows with other kids of elites at the private dorms or in some of the frats at big SEC schools or schools like SMU or Tulane.

My kid’s roommate is old $$$ billionaire family at his Ivy. They are still sending their kids to Ivies—-FFS ha. They are t all the sudden sending them to Alabama

Ok

But until you’ve set foot on a SEC campus, you aren’t likely to appreciate the wealth there. It’s shocking.

My kid is at a school in the south and the stories they share about their friends and other kids they hang with are unbelievable: the houses, cars, trips, etc. and throwing down credit cards for shopping sprees and parties. It’s not unusual for Daddy and his golf buddies to fly on his private plane for a football game.

We are just the schmuck worker bees aiming for ivies for our kids while those you call dummies are the ones who will own the companies the smart kids will scramble to work for.

There are all similar stories at Ivy schools…not to mention the foreign billionaires throwing tons of cash around.

I don’t get this strange anecdote nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:Whatever floats your boat.
But DD is not keen to go anywhere south due to the draconian abortion policies and I think that’s smart.

+1

Awful weather first for mine, followed by what you said

Add in the anti LGBTQ+ nonsense for my child

The farthest South we looked was a small school in Raleigh. My daughter didn’t even apply in the end (they had the latest deadline and she already had yesses). She wound up in MA after applying to 3 schools in VA, 2 in MI, 1 in PA, 1 in MA, and one in St Louis area (close to IL line - this was the only reason an exception was made)

My kid is at a big SEC school in a state that everyone in Dcumlandia seems to hate. While there is an immediate assumption that the community would be anti-LGBT, the reality is that it isn’t. We met a gay recruiter as soon as we arrived on campus (fun fact: they lived and worked in DC for a decade and prefer the SEC college town since people are friendlier and there’s a community vibe).

Don’t make assumptions without verifying the ground truth.

I love that you use one gay recruiter to extrapolate that southern schools don’t have a anti-LGBTQ problem. That’s critical thinking for ya!

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Anonymous wrote:Once upon a time, the Ivies were where the rich and well-connected sent their kids to meet other rich and well-connected kids. The student body has changed tremendously and is now full of first gen kids with no connections and who have completely different backgrounds than the old guard. The Ivies are becoming less appealing to the old guard now that their kids are as likely to rub elbows with other kids of elites at the private dorms or in some of the frats at big SEC schools or schools like SMU or Tulane.

My kid’s roommate is old $$$ billionaire family at his Ivy. They are still sending their kids to Ivies—-FFS ha. They are t all the sudden sending them to Alabama

Ok

But until you’ve set foot on a SEC campus, you aren’t likely to appreciate the wealth there. It’s shocking.

My kid is at a school in the south and the stories they share about their friends and other kids they hang with are unbelievable: the houses, cars, trips, etc. and throwing down credit cards for shopping sprees and parties. It’s not unusual for Daddy and his golf buddies to fly on his private plane for a football game.

We are just the schmuck worker bees aiming for ivies for our kids while those you call dummies are the ones who will own the companies the smart kids will scramble to work for.

Trashy flashy wealth will never be seen as the same as understated wealth, and smart yet not wealthy does better over a lifetime than average and inherited dad’s money. The ivies and elite privates are not fading. You keep telling yourself they are: it won’t make it true.

But it’s not trashy sassy wealthy southerners…unless we’re now calling Philly’s main line, Chicago, NY, CT, etc. the south?

Anyway, my belief is that the bright happy people who know how to have fun typically go the farthest in life…regardless of where they earn their degree. After all, personality trumps everything else.

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Anonymous wrote:Whatever floats your boat.
But DD is not keen to go anywhere south due to the draconian abortion policies and I think that’s smart.

+1

Awful weather first for mine, followed by what you said

Add in the anti LGBTQ+ nonsense for my child

The farthest South we looked was a small school in Raleigh. My daughter didn’t even apply in the end (they had the latest deadline and she already had yesses). She wound up in MA after applying to 3 schools in VA, 2 in MI, 1 in PA, 1 in MA, and one in St Louis area (close to IL line - this was the only reason an exception was made)

My kid is at a big SEC school in a state that everyone in Dcumlandia seems to hate. While there is an immediate assumption that the community would be anti-LGBT, the reality is that it isn’t. We met a gay recruiter as soon as we arrived on campus (fun fact: they lived and worked in DC for a decade and prefer the SEC college town since people are friendlier and there’s a community vibe).

Don’t make assumptions without verifying the ground truth.

I love that you use one gay recruiter to extrapolate that southern schools don’t have a anti-LGBTQ problem. That’s critical thinking for ya!

Okay, Jan.

The reality is we encountered a lot of students who fall under the lgbtq umbrella along with other gay adults (young and old) at various venues in town (hotel, restaurant, shops, etc.).

But feel free to continue with your biased, baseless assumption that surely every college town in the south is filled with backwards rednecks who hate the gay community. No need to believe someone who has actually been on SEC campuses a lot over the last handful of years.

You know what else? Kids from all races actually interact. It’s true! Seen it with my own eyes.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once upon a time, the Ivies were where the rich and well-connected sent their kids to meet other rich and well-connected kids. The student body has changed tremendously and is now full of first gen kids with no connections and who have completely different backgrounds than the old guard. The Ivies are becoming less appealing to the old guard now that their kids are as likely to rub elbows with other kids of elites at the private dorms or in some of the frats at big SEC schools or schools like SMU or Tulane.

My kid’s roommate is old $$$ billionaire family at his Ivy. They are still sending their kids to Ivies—-FFS ha. They are t all the sudden sending them to Alabama

Ok

But until you’ve set foot on a SEC campus, you aren’t likely to appreciate the wealth there. It’s shocking.

My kid is at a school in the south and the stories they share about their friends and other kids they hang with are unbelievable: the houses, cars, trips, etc. and throwing down credit cards for shopping sprees and parties. It’s not unusual for Daddy and his golf buddies to fly on his private plane for a football game.

We are just the schmuck worker bees aiming for ivies for our kids while those you call dummies are the ones who will own the companies the smart kids will scramble to work for.

There are all similar stories at Ivy schools…not to mention the foreign billionaires throwing tons of cash around.

I don’t get this strange anecdote nonsense.

I think the point is there are a lot of dcum strivers who think the only way their kid can get ahead is by going to an Ivy with old money wasps.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.wsj.com/sports/baseball/detroit-tigers-mlb-playoffs-35e7b03c?st=ie351c&reflink=article_copyURL_share

A growing number of high-school seniors in the North are making an unexpected choice for college: They are heading to Clemson, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Alabama and other universities in the South.

Students say they are searching for the fun and school spirit emanating from the South on their social-media feeds. Their parents cite lower tuition and less debt, and warmer weather. College counselors also say many teens are eager to trade the political polarization ripping apart campuses in New England and New York for the sense of community epitomized by the South’s football Saturdays. Promising job prospects after graduation can sweeten the pot.

The number of Northerners going to Southern public schools went up 84% over the past two decades, and jumped 30% from 2018 to 2022, a Wall Street Journal analysis of the latest available Education Department data found.

At the University of Tennessee in Knoxville, total freshmen from the Northeast jumped to nearly 600 in a class of about 6,800, up from around 50 in 2002. At the University of Mississippi, in Oxford, they increased from 11 to more than 200 in a class of about 4,500 in 2022. At the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa, 11% of students came from the Northeast in 2022, compared with less than 1% two decades prior.

NP. It’s because colleges in the northeast have become grim, depressing, and expensive. Also, the student bodies are made up of Tracy Flicks that can’t be trusted.

Kids who want a good education but don’t want to worry about their lab partners sabotaging them to get .5 more points on a quiz or reporting them to the administration for wrongthink are headed south.

Does not happen. That is a pile of rumor mill copium for those who do not get into ivies or other top schools. Application numbers hit record highs AGAIN for most ivies and other top schools last yr . There is no shortage of demand or some turn of the tide away. The “move” to the south is for above-average kids who previously would have accepted their fate and gone with the similar high school peers to Suny or rutgers or uconn or umass have decided they want to go OOS south. To be “different “ and feel special for going out of state to a relatively less known school where less peers are and they can brag about how novel it is. Meanwhile above-average kids in Georgia who cannot get in UGA have to leave forOle Miss or Bama. The top kids in the northeast and midatlantic still aim for ivies and the like. Even in Virginia, every person who “chooses more south” such as Clemson or UGA is not choosing that over UVA or Georgetown or ivies. They are not getting in to those schools and they would rather UGA over JMU or VCU. Copium, plain and simple.

The cheating and backstabbing isn’t just limited to the students at HYS. The administrations are run by cheaters too. It’s a culture problem from the top down. And parents and smart kids know it.

Or are you going to claim that Marc Tessier-Lavigne’s data falsification is also made up now?