How do guys feel about a woman who had plastic surgery?

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Anonymous wrote:There is a big double standard when it comes to plastic surgery. When women do so they are more likely to get a pass and I won't list all the various excuses given.

However when a man goes under a knife if people aren't gross out he is lucky.

For me there are no differences they are both fixing insecurities and I am fine with it.

I watched a documentary once and this straight man in Miami had all kind of work done glute implants, lipo, nose job, you name it.

There should be a follow up to ask women on the streets what they think about the guy whether they would date him for example? Lmao .... If they don't call him gay, they will say he is "cute" but I doubt they will date him.

Replace the same guy with a woman and criticize her. You will then get the responses we see here lol

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Anonymous wrote:lol. Someone asks what men think about plastic surgery. Most men answer that they don’t like it. Then women (who I presume have had work done) jump is to tell us why we’re wrong.

Maybe because they recognize that the men they are dating have no idea they had a nose job in the last, use Botox, had a boob job and yet seem very happy with their looks?

Maybe it’s about more than appearance. To me, it’s a red flag regarding values, confidence, and self esteem.

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Anonymous wrote:What bothers me is that a lot of these “influencers” that my DD might look at on social media are doing Botox, fillers, etc in their twenties. And they are advertising products and skin care - there’s such an obsession with perfection. If anyone on social media has a natural line or wrinkle, it stands out. It’s unusual. But yeah, the procedures are starting very early.

I loathe the gigantic lips. I really hope that trend dies. But I’m not a man - not sure if they have any idea what’s fake.

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Between all the BS social media filters, air brushing and then the early age Botox pushed and fillers and lifts before age 40, seems like priorities for women in some circles are sinking lower and lower. Vainer and vainer.

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Anonymous wrote:Boob jobs yes, anything else (including Botox)..no

Lol and welcome to the poster who thinks they can tell who everyone is that's had Botox!

Seriously. Men are so funny. I’ve been doing Botox since I was 30 and you would think I am much too down-to-earth for all that if you met me.

Probably we would not think that if you’re describing yourself like this

I’m a mom at preschool pickup in leggings and a baseball cap most days. My purse is a backpack. Subtle Botox is popular and not something you notice, and not about being a certain type of woman.

You mean we can’t see your non-moving, zero lines forehead under your baseball cap whilst you’re in your vehicle doing car pool? Um, ok…

You don't understand botox (though yes, this happens *sometimes*) but if it makes you feel better to keep posting go ahead.

No idea what your problem is, but you seem to be in denial that your shooting up muscle relaxers not your forehead and what that actually looks like to others.

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Anonymous wrote:What bothers me is that a lot of these “influencers” that my DD might look at on social media are doing Botox, fillers, etc in their twenties. And they are advertising products and skin care - there’s such an obsession with perfection. If anyone on social media has a natural line or wrinkle, it stands out. It’s unusual. But yeah, the procedures are starting very early.

I loathe the gigantic lips. I really hope that trend dies. But I’m not a man - not sure if they have any idea what’s fake.

I have to say - as much as I roll my eyes at the people who are simply fainting over adult women taking agency over their appearance, it really does hurt my heart (and eyes) to see people in their 20s using botox and filling their faces with injectables. On the one hand, you're supposed to try out all kinds of looks and stuff, even regrettable ones, when you're young - if not then, when? But on the other, it just seems so g.d. sad. And unnecessary. And frankly not attractive, not that they care what some 51 year old thinks.

If we stop putting little girls in beauty contests and get them made up for gymnastics competitions, perhaps they wouldn’t think this was important in their 20s. I agree it’s very sad.

The industry likes to tell women under age 40 that if they do Botox early on then they may prevent wrinkles later as your forehead muscles shorten and are weaker.

In reality you can just wear sunscreen and hats and not get terrible wrinkles and then start Botox mid 40s.

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Anonymous wrote:You ladies realize Botox is botulinum neurotoxin, right?

Oh wow. I started looking into this and you're right. So scary.

Another thing I found out is that when you have surgery they cut your skin open and you bleed!

Wow!

Maybe it’s just me, but injecting neurotoxins into your face seems like bad idea.

The headaches, vision issues and brain fog are real. The industry doesn’t like to acknowledge that and send you off to a neurologist or ophthalmologist if it outlasts the 3+ mos of Botox. Meanwhile, enjoy your smooth forehead and heavy eyebrows you can’t move!

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Anonymous wrote:Boob jobs yes, anything else (including Botox)..no

Lol and welcome to the poster who thinks they can tell who everyone is that's had Botox!

Men can tell when they’re looking at a rock-hard forehead and no smiling eyes or eyes brows.

My husband goes to Dallas for work and now can’t stop laughing in restaurants or shops or meetings.

Of course they can.

But what you don't know is that there are TONS of people with botox without rock hard foreheads who do have smiling eyes and brows. To think you know different is to be so arrogant as to look, well, stupid.

#Triggered

Are you always a weirdly defensive pill or just having a bad day.

Botox is Botox.

People often can’t tell. My husband went on a rant about Botox the other day and how awful and unnatural it was. Meanwhile I’m sitting there smiling internally since I’ve been getting Botox for several years and he’s never noticed.

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Anonymous wrote:You ladies realize Botox is botulinum neurotoxin, right?

Oh wow. I started looking into this and you're right. So scary.

Another thing I found out is that when you have surgery they cut your skin open and you bleed!

Wow!

Maybe it’s just me, but injecting neurotoxins into your face seems like bad idea.

But I’m sure you have no issues drinking alcohol.

I’m not sure why you’re comparing Botox to alcohol. Are you saying Botox is an addiction? Or helps cover up for other insecurities?

I think pp's point is that we consume all kinds of "toxins" on a regular basis

WhoTF compares a glass of wine your body naturally digests in 6 hours to Botox shots into your forehead muscles?!?

Talk about idiotic. Thanks for yet another data point of these types.

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Anonymous wrote:Boob jobs yes, anything else (including Botox)..no

Lol and welcome to the poster who thinks they can tell who everyone is that's had Botox!

Men can tell when they’re looking at a rock-hard forehead and no smiling eyes or eyes brows.

My husband goes to Dallas for work and now can’t stop laughing in restaurants or shops or meetings.

Of course they can.

But what you don't know is that there are TONS of people with botox without rock hard foreheads who do have smiling eyes and brows. To think you know different is to be so arrogant as to look, well, stupid.

#Triggered

Are you always a weirdly defensive pill or just having a bad day.

Botox is Botox.

People often can’t tell. My husband went on a rant about Botox the other day and how awful and unnatural it was. Meanwhile I’m sitting there smiling internally since I’ve been getting Botox for several years and he’s never noticed.

Did you correct and educate him? Or did you stay silent so this standard of “natural” beauty and aging gets higher and higher. To be sure, I have nothing against procedures but I do think it’s weird AF to not mention to your spouse since cumulatively ita a decent amount of money.

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Anonymous wrote:You ladies realize Botox is botulinum neurotoxin, right?

Oh wow. I started looking into this and you're right. So scary.

Another thing I found out is that when you have surgery they cut your skin open and you bleed!

Wow!

Maybe it’s just me, but injecting neurotoxins into your face seems like bad idea.

But I’m sure you have no issues drinking alcohol.

I’m not sure why you’re comparing Botox to alcohol. Are you saying Botox is an addiction? Or helps cover up for other insecurities?

I think pp's point is that we consume all kinds of "toxins" on a regular basis

WhoTF compares a glass of wine your body naturally digests in 6 hours to Botox shots into your forehead muscles?!?

Talk about idiotic. Thanks for yet another data point of these types.

And if it were one drinks over 6 hours that would be one thing, but it’s not. Botox also fades over time. And -this will blow your mind- Botox is used medically as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Boob jobs yes, anything else (including Botox)..no

Lol and welcome to the poster who thinks they can tell who everyone is that's had Botox!

Men can tell when they’re looking at a rock-hard forehead and no smiling eyes or eyes brows.

My husband goes to Dallas for work and now can’t stop laughing in restaurants or shops or meetings.

Of course they can.

But what you don't know is that there are TONS of people with botox without rock hard foreheads who do have smiling eyes and brows. To think you know different is to be so arrogant as to look, well, stupid.

#Triggered

Are you always a weirdly defensive pill or just having a bad day.

Botox is Botox.

People often can’t tell. My husband went on a rant about Botox the other day and how awful and unnatural it was. Meanwhile I’m sitting there smiling internally since I’ve been getting Botox for several years and he’s never noticed.

Did you correct and educate him? Or did you stay silent so this standard of “natural” beauty and aging gets higher and higher. To be sure, I have nothing against procedures but I do think it’s weird AF to not mention to your spouse since cumulatively ita a decent amount of money.

It’s not really his business and we have separate finances, so I feel no compunction to tell him.

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Anonymous wrote:Boob jobs yes, anything else (including Botox)..no

Lol and welcome to the poster who thinks they can tell who everyone is that's had Botox!

Men can tell when they’re looking at a rock-hard forehead and no smiling eyes or eyes brows.

My husband goes to Dallas for work and now can’t stop laughing in restaurants or shops or meetings.

Of course they can.

But what you don't know is that there are TONS of people with botox without rock hard foreheads who do have smiling eyes and brows. To think you know different is to be so arrogant as to look, well, stupid.

#Triggered

Are you always a weirdly defensive pill or just having a bad day.

Botox is Botox.

People often can’t tell. My husband went on a rant about Botox the other day and how awful and unnatural it was. Meanwhile I’m sitting there smiling internally since I’ve been getting Botox for several years and he’s never noticed.

They don’t notice unless they’re told. Then they’ll see it everywhere- teachers, neighborhood moms, ladies at work, etc.

Basically whoever has normal forehead expressions does not. And vice versa.

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Anonymous wrote:You ladies realize Botox is botulinum neurotoxin, right?

Oh wow. I started looking into this and you're right. So scary.

Another thing I found out is that when you have surgery they cut your skin open and you bleed!

Wow!

Maybe it’s just me, but injecting neurotoxins into your face seems like bad idea.

But I’m sure you have no issues drinking alcohol.

I’m not sure why you’re comparing Botox to alcohol. Are you saying Botox is an addiction? Or helps cover up for other insecurities?

I think pp's point is that we consume all kinds of "toxins" on a regular basis

WhoTF compares a glass of wine your body naturally digests in 6 hours to Botox shots into your forehead muscles?!?

Talk about idiotic. Thanks for yet another data point of these types.

And if it were one drinks over 6 hours that would be one thing, but it’s not. Botox also fades over time. And -this will blow your mind- Botox is used medically as well.

Are you still attempting to compare 10-16 neurotoxin shots into your head that takes 3-4 months to decay with drinking a class a wine that instantly passes through your stomach, kidneys and urinary track in 6 hours or less?

Hilarious.

Maybe your Botox needles hit too many head nerves over time.

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Anonymous wrote:Boob jobs yes, anything else (including Botox)..no

Lol and welcome to the poster who thinks they can tell who everyone is that's had Botox!

Men can tell when they’re looking at a rock-hard forehead and no smiling eyes or eyes brows.

My husband goes to Dallas for work and now can’t stop laughing in restaurants or shops or meetings.

Of course they can.

But what you don't know is that there are TONS of people with botox without rock hard foreheads who do have smiling eyes and brows. To think you know different is to be so arrogant as to look, well, stupid.

#Triggered

Are you always a weirdly defensive pill or just having a bad day.

Botox is Botox.

People often can’t tell. My husband went on a rant about Botox the other day and how awful and unnatural it was. Meanwhile I’m sitting there smiling internally since I’ve been getting Botox for several years and he’s never noticed.

Did you correct and educate him? Or did you stay silent so this standard of “natural” beauty and aging gets higher and higher. To be sure, I have nothing against procedures but I do think it’s weird AF to not mention to your spouse since cumulatively ita a decent amount of money.

It’s not really his business and we have separate finances, so I feel no compunction to tell him.

Lol

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You ladies realize Botox is botulinum neurotoxin, right?

Oh wow. I started looking into this and you're right. So scary.

Another thing I found out is that when you have surgery they cut your skin open and you bleed!

Wow!

Maybe it’s just me, but injecting neurotoxins into your face seems like bad idea.

But I’m sure you have no issues drinking alcohol.

I’m not sure why you’re comparing Botox to alcohol. Are you saying Botox is an addiction? Or helps cover up for other insecurities?

I think pp's point is that we consume all kinds of "toxins" on a regular basis

WhoTF compares a glass of wine your body naturally digests in 6 hours to Botox shots into your forehead muscles?!?

Talk about idiotic. Thanks for yet another data point of these types.

And if it were one drinks over 6 hours that would be one thing, but it’s not. Botox also fades over time. And -this will blow your mind- Botox is used medically as well.

Are you still attempting to compare 10-16 neurotoxin shots into your head that takes 3-4 months to decay with drinking a class a wine that instantly passes through your stomach, kidneys and urinary track in 6 hours or less?

Hilarious.

Maybe your Botox needles hit too many head nerves over time.

Yes, I am sure that one glass of wine is all you ever drink. After all, people on this site are all about only drinking once a week. I don’t even know why alcohol has warning labels at all given how responsibly it is used and the amazing health benefits the wine industry says it has.

I’m sure in your life you are just as clean as can be in all things. No alcohol except that one glass, no OTC drugs or prescription drugs or ultra processed foods or anything! And certainly no Botox!