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Anonymous wrote:He likely hired the PR crisis manager because this is bigger than beef with Blake lively. This actually started with an issue between him and Colleen Hoover. He basically pulled a scooter Braun… eg what scooter did Taylor with her music portfolio.

Justin optioned the book to become a movie before it really got big. But just as his option was about to run out….interesting timing because the book got really big. Instead of optioning out and giving her the rights to sell it at a much higher price to someone else, he retained the rights. So she missed out on a really huge payday.


You clearly know nothing about how Hollywood works, of business for that matter. They had a deal when her book wasn't working. Then it took off. They both benefited. Of course he would retain the rights.
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Anonymous wrote:Blake lively using the launch to hawk her hair line is giving me the major ick. Combined with the fact that she made her own cut that then failed in testing and now the director won’t speak to her. I usually love her and I still love a lot of things about her but a. Never noticed her hair being so amazing and b. Don’t springboard off a movie to launch a hair line. She could easily have done that whenever. Just feel so cringe


That’s not completely true ….what I will say is…. It’s not just Blake and Justin Baldoni (director/main character) not talking to each other – it’s pretty much the entire cast/Colleen Hoover Also not doing any press with Justin – and no longer following him on social media. Justin only took pictures with his wife on the red carpet at the Premier and had no interactions with the rest of the cast. Sounds like Blake and Ryan had to infuse a ton of money into the movie to get it back on track.


Yeah, I’ve been reading about this. But the way everyone has turned on the director feels very - middle school ostracism. It’s cruel and unkind and gives me flashbacks to my youth! That being said, maybe he did something egregious.


Agree. What irks me is that Colleen really bought for him to direct and play the character. And so for her to turn against them like that just seems like she got caught up in the whole Blake lively and her hair phenomenon lol.

I get it - she’s a star, but it does seem petty of Colleen and like she just acts on a whim. Justin is not a newcomer… He is pretty established in Hollywood so it would be surprising if he did something completely egregious and we aren’t hearing about it. He seems like a really nice guy, devoted to his wife, has a ton of fans, just seems weird that they turned against him.

I’m excited to see the movie but also happy that the press etc.
is going to die down now that opening opening weekend is done.


Even if they had a difference of opinion creatively or he was a bad director - to unfollow on social media and refuse to appear with him…very immature.

And apparently the screenwriter was surprised to learn that Ryan Reynolds rewrote some scenes. That’s disrespectful of someone who I imagine has had great professional success in the industry. I don’t like the egos.


This is completely normal for Hollywood. Happens all the time.


Someone's husband swoops in and rewrites scenes?


You can't look at Ryan Reynolds as "someone's husband" when it comes to Hollywood. He has becomes a major force (I mean, I like him, but his rise in power is pretty astounding) and that gives him the ability to do what he wants with a script he is involved in, given the money he/they put into it.

Plenty of Hollywood writers have gotten far worse treatment after writing a script.


He is absolutely someone's husband, an action dude with great business sense not known for his sensitivity. I'd be pretty pissed if writing a movie about DV and the Deadpool guy comes in and rewrites. How can her coworkers respect her (I know they do on the surface, because Ryan Reynolds money)? She can't do one thing independently? It's sad and unnecessary if her point is to be taken seriously as an actress.


These are two separate issues. RR has the clout to be able to do what he wants in a movie he is involved with at this point in his career. That he is BL's DH doing the rewriting, sure, could make her look bad. But my guess is that the scene wasn't working and RR and BL worked together to figure out a way to make the scene work. He did not rewrite "the movie." He also did a big campaign video for her that got a lot of attention for the video and for the movie. No way she said no to that either. Her objective is to have a successful movie, and on her own it wasn't happening. Certainly hadn't happened as pretty much everything she did post Gossip Girls has not come close to succeeding. RR has had an eye for what works in the current marketplace, so why not take advantage of that. RR helped this movie succeed, along with the books cult following.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake lively using the launch to hawk her hair line is giving me the major ick. Combined with the fact that she made her own cut that then failed in testing and now the director won’t speak to her. I usually love her and I still love a lot of things about her but a. Never noticed her hair being so amazing and b. Don’t springboard off a movie to launch a hair line. She could easily have done that whenever. Just feel so cringe


That’s not completely true ….what I will say is…. It’s not just Blake and Justin Baldoni (director/main character) not talking to each other – it’s pretty much the entire cast/Colleen Hoover Also not doing any press with Justin – and no longer following him on social media. Justin only took pictures with his wife on the red carpet at the Premier and had no interactions with the rest of the cast. Sounds like Blake and Ryan had to infuse a ton of money into the movie to get it back on track.


Yeah, I’ve been reading about this. But the way everyone has turned on the director feels very - middle school ostracism. It’s cruel and unkind and gives me flashbacks to my youth! That being said, maybe he did something egregious.


Agree. What irks me is that Colleen really bought for him to direct and play the character. And so for her to turn against them like that just seems like she got caught up in the whole Blake lively and her hair phenomenon lol.

I get it - she’s a star, but it does seem petty of Colleen and like she just acts on a whim. Justin is not a newcomer… He is pretty established in Hollywood so it would be surprising if he did something completely egregious and we aren’t hearing about it. He seems like a really nice guy, devoted to his wife, has a ton of fans, just seems weird that they turned against him.

I’m excited to see the movie but also happy that the press etc.
is going to die down now that opening opening weekend is done.


Even if they had a difference of opinion creatively or he was a bad director - to unfollow on social media and refuse to appear with him…very immature.

And apparently the screenwriter was surprised to learn that Ryan Reynolds rewrote some scenes. That’s disrespectful of someone who I imagine has had great professional success in the industry. I don’t like the egos.


This is completely normal for Hollywood. Happens all the time.


Someone's husband swoops in and rewrites scenes?


You can't look at Ryan Reynolds as "someone's husband" when it comes to Hollywood. He has becomes a major force (I mean, I like him, but his rise in power is pretty astounding) and that gives him the ability to do what he wants with a script he is involved in, given the money he/they put into it.

Plenty of Hollywood writers have gotten far worse treatment after writing a script.


He is absolutely someone's husband, an action dude with great business sense not known for his sensitivity. I'd be pretty pissed if writing a movie about DV and the Deadpool guy comes in and rewrites. How can her coworkers respect her (I know they do on the surface, because Ryan Reynolds money)? She can't do one thing independently? It's sad and unnecessary if her point is to be taken seriously as an actress.


Exactly. It screams codependency which can also be abuse in certain situations. How would you feel if your spouse came in and tried to do work on a project that had no role in?!


His money invested in the film gives him a role. And if you think BL wasn't thrilled to have him help her make the movie succeed you are just a man-hater. This was BL's first movie post kids. She has had no successes since Gossip Girls. It was almost as if she said to RR, It's my turn to work again, and I need a success, and RR did everything in his power to make it happen for her.
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Anonymous wrote:TMZ is reporting that he fat shamed her by asking her weight because of his “back problems” this is right after she had a baby, then was creepy when kissing her for too long in a scene.


this is the full quote from TMZ on the “fat shaming”:

“ According to our sources, Justin has a history of back problems and before lifting Blake, he went to his on-set trainer and asked how much she weighed and how could he train to protect his back from injury.”

Wtf. He was very discreet in asking a completely reasonable question. Team Justin.


Would it have been better that he dropped her and hurt his back?
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Anonymous wrote:Blake lively using the launch to hawk her hair line is giving me the major ick. Combined with the fact that she made her own cut that then failed in testing and now the director won’t speak to her. I usually love her and I still love a lot of things about her but a. Never noticed her hair being so amazing and b. Don’t springboard off a movie to launch a hair line. She could easily have done that whenever. Just feel so cringe


That’s not completely true ….what I will say is…. It’s not just Blake and Justin Baldoni (director/main character) not talking to each other – it’s pretty much the entire cast/Colleen Hoover Also not doing any press with Justin – and no longer following him on social media. Justin only took pictures with his wife on the red carpet at the Premier and had no interactions with the rest of the cast. Sounds like Blake and Ryan had to infuse a ton of money into the movie to get it back on track.


Yeah, I’ve been reading about this. But the way everyone has turned on the director feels very - middle school ostracism. It’s cruel and unkind and gives me flashbacks to my youth! That being said, maybe he did something egregious.


Agree. What irks me is that Colleen really bought for him to direct and play the character. And so for her to turn against them like that just seems like she got caught up in the whole Blake lively and her hair phenomenon lol.

I get it - she’s a star, but it does seem petty of Colleen and like she just acts on a whim. Justin is not a newcomer… He is pretty established in Hollywood so it would be surprising if he did something completely egregious and we aren’t hearing about it. He seems like a really nice guy, devoted to his wife, has a ton of fans, just seems weird that they turned against him.

I’m excited to see the movie but also happy that the press etc.
is going to die down now that opening opening weekend is done.


Even if they had a difference of opinion creatively or he was a bad director - to unfollow on social media and refuse to appear with him…very immature.

And apparently the screenwriter was surprised to learn that Ryan Reynolds rewrote some scenes. That’s disrespectful of someone who I imagine has had great professional success in the industry. I don’t like the egos.


This is completely normal for Hollywood. Happens all the time.


Someone's husband swoops in and rewrites scenes?


You can't look at Ryan Reynolds as "someone's husband" when it comes to Hollywood. He has becomes a major force (I mean, I like him, but his rise in power is pretty astounding) and that gives him the ability to do what he wants with a script he is involved in, given the money he/they put into it.

Plenty of Hollywood writers have gotten far worse treatment after writing a script.


He is absolutely someone's husband, an action dude with great business sense not known for his sensitivity. I'd be pretty pissed if writing a movie about DV and the Deadpool guy comes in and rewrites. How can her coworkers respect her (I know they do on the surface, because Ryan Reynolds money)? She can't do one thing independently? It's sad and unnecessary if her point is to be taken seriously as an actress.


Exactly. It screams codependency which can also be abuse in certain situations. How would you feel if your spouse came in and tried to do work on a project that had no role in?!


His money invested in the film gives him a role. And if you think BL wasn't thrilled to have him help her make the movie succeed you are just a man-hater. This was BL's first movie post kids. She has had no successes since Gossip Girls. It was almost as if she said to RR, It's my turn to work again, and I need a success, and RR did everything in his power to make it happen for her.


What do you mean this is her first role post Kids? This was her first role after having her fourth kid, but she has been a mom for the past nine years and has done several movies since having kids.

You’re right that she hasn’t had much success, though I think A Simple Favor did pretty well. That was mostly an Anna Kendrick movie, but she did costar. I think her Betty buzz nonalcoholic and alcoholic drinks are not doing that great and it’s likely her hair care line will not work. Her lifestyle company Preserve also flopped. Celebrity brands that work usually require a lot of attention and care from the celebrity. See Jen garners organic farm snacks for kids, the Olsen twins fashion company and GOOP. They are all heavily involved. Blake seems like she has started 4 different businesses and ignores them all.
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Anonymous wrote:Blake lively using the launch to hawk her hair line is giving me the major ick. Combined with the fact that she made her own cut that then failed in testing and now the director won’t speak to her. I usually love her and I still love a lot of things about her but a. Never noticed her hair being so amazing and b. Don’t springboard off a movie to launch a hair line. She could easily have done that whenever. Just feel so cringe


That’s not completely true ….what I will say is…. It’s not just Blake and Justin Baldoni (director/main character) not talking to each other – it’s pretty much the entire cast/Colleen Hoover Also not doing any press with Justin – and no longer following him on social media. Justin only took pictures with his wife on the red carpet at the Premier and had no interactions with the rest of the cast. Sounds like Blake and Ryan had to infuse a ton of money into the movie to get it back on track.


Yeah, I’ve been reading about this. But the way everyone has turned on the director feels very - middle school ostracism. It’s cruel and unkind and gives me flashbacks to my youth! That being said, maybe he did something egregious.


Agree. What irks me is that Colleen really bought for him to direct and play the character. And so for her to turn against them like that just seems like she got caught up in the whole Blake lively and her hair phenomenon lol.

I get it - she’s a star, but it does seem petty of Colleen and like she just acts on a whim. Justin is not a newcomer… He is pretty established in Hollywood so it would be surprising if he did something completely egregious and we aren’t hearing about it. He seems like a really nice guy, devoted to his wife, has a ton of fans, just seems weird that they turned against him.

I’m excited to see the movie but also happy that the press etc.
is going to die down now that opening opening weekend is done.


Even if they had a difference of opinion creatively or he was a bad director - to unfollow on social media and refuse to appear with him…very immature.

And apparently the screenwriter was surprised to learn that Ryan Reynolds rewrote some scenes. That’s disrespectful of someone who I imagine has had great professional success in the industry. I don’t like the egos.


This is completely normal for Hollywood. Happens all the time.


Someone's husband swoops in and rewrites scenes?


You can't look at Ryan Reynolds as "someone's husband" when it comes to Hollywood. He has becomes a major force (I mean, I like him, but his rise in power is pretty astounding) and that gives him the ability to do what he wants with a script he is involved in, given the money he/they put into it.

Plenty of Hollywood writers have gotten far worse treatment after writing a script.


He is absolutely someone's husband, an action dude with great business sense not known for his sensitivity. I'd be pretty pissed if writing a movie about DV and the Deadpool guy comes in and rewrites. How can her coworkers respect her (I know they do on the surface, because Ryan Reynolds money)? She can't do one thing independently? It's sad and unnecessary if her point is to be taken seriously as an actress.


Exactly. It screams codependency which can also be abuse in certain situations. How would you feel if your spouse came in and tried to do work on a project that had no role in?!


His money invested in the film gives him a role. And if you think BL wasn't thrilled to have him help her make the movie succeed you are just a man-hater. This was BL's first movie post kids. She has had no successes since Gossip Girls. It was almost as if she said to RR, It's my turn to work again, and I need a success, and RR did everything in his power to make it happen for her.


What do you mean this is her first role post Kids? This was her first role after having her fourth kid, but she has been a mom for the past nine years and has done several movies since having kids.

You’re right that she hasn’t had much success, though I think A Simple Favor did pretty well. That was mostly an Anna Kendrick movie, but she did costar. I think her Betty buzz nonalcoholic and alcoholic drinks are not doing that great and it’s likely her hair care line will not work. Her lifestyle company Preserve also flopped. Celebrity brands that work usually require a lot of attention and care from the celebrity. See Jen garners organic farm snacks for kids, the Olsen twins fashion company and GOOP. They are all heavily involved. Blake seems like she has started 4 different businesses and ignores them all.


I mean, post being pregnant. It feels very much like, Okay, I am done having OUR kids (I should have been clearer) and now it's my turn to be a success again. So RR, IMO, has worked hard to make sure this first venture is a success for her. Since they married and started having kids, RR's career and investments have skyrocketed. I doubt he was home much sharing parenting duties. Don't they have 4 kids?? Anyway, I'm not a huge BL fan, anyway, but even I can see how she starts a lot of things, none of them worked, and being a mom of 3 and now 4 little ones makes it hard when the dad is gone a lot jet-fueling his own career.

All to say, I feel that RR is doing anything he can to get this movie to work for BL, because she clearly hasn't been able to do it on her own -- for whatever reason. I feel as if even all the Taylor Swift girl's nights have been part of BL rebranding/relaunching. "I'm still young and hot and a movie star hanging out with TS!" So I have zero problem with RR the DH stepping in to help. And as I also mentioned, RR the hugely successful business person absolutely is going to step in for separate reasons. (Though no way he ever would have been involved with this movie had it not been for his wife. I would venture to say that they were headed for another failure--beyond a certain subset of rabid book fans--when RR got involved.)
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P.S. A Simple Favor did 53.5M in total ticket sales domestically. (97M worldwide.) All to say it didn't do well.
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Anonymous wrote:Blake lively using the launch to hawk her hair line is giving me the major ick. Combined with the fact that she made her own cut that then failed in testing and now the director won’t speak to her. I usually love her and I still love a lot of things about her but a. Never noticed her hair being so amazing and b. Don’t springboard off a movie to launch a hair line. She could easily have done that whenever. Just feel so cringe


That’s not completely true ….what I will say is…. It’s not just Blake and Justin Baldoni (director/main character) not talking to each other – it’s pretty much the entire cast/Colleen Hoover Also not doing any press with Justin – and no longer following him on social media. Justin only took pictures with his wife on the red carpet at the Premier and had no interactions with the rest of the cast. Sounds like Blake and Ryan had to infuse a ton of money into the movie to get it back on track.


Yeah, I’ve been reading about this. But the way everyone has turned on the director feels very - middle school ostracism. It’s cruel and unkind and gives me flashbacks to my youth! That being said, maybe he did something egregious.


Agree. What irks me is that Colleen really bought for him to direct and play the character. And so for her to turn against them like that just seems like she got caught up in the whole Blake lively and her hair phenomenon lol.

I get it - she’s a star, but it does seem petty of Colleen and like she just acts on a whim. Justin is not a newcomer… He is pretty established in Hollywood so it would be surprising if he did something completely egregious and we aren’t hearing about it. He seems like a really nice guy, devoted to his wife, has a ton of fans, just seems weird that they turned against him.

I’m excited to see the movie but also happy that the press etc.
is going to die down now that opening opening weekend is done.


Even if they had a difference of opinion creatively or he was a bad director - to unfollow on social media and refuse to appear with him…very immature.

And apparently the screenwriter was surprised to learn that Ryan Reynolds rewrote some scenes. That’s disrespectful of someone who I imagine has had great professional success in the industry. I don’t like the egos.


This is completely normal for Hollywood. Happens all the time.


Someone's husband swoops in and rewrites scenes?


You can't look at Ryan Reynolds as "someone's husband" when it comes to Hollywood. He has becomes a major force (I mean, I like him, but his rise in power is pretty astounding) and that gives him the ability to do what he wants with a script he is involved in, given the money he/they put into it.

Plenty of Hollywood writers have gotten far worse treatment after writing a script.


He is absolutely someone's husband, an action dude with great business sense not known for his sensitivity. I'd be pretty pissed if writing a movie about DV and the Deadpool guy comes in and rewrites. How can her coworkers respect her (I know they do on the surface, because Ryan Reynolds money)? She can't do one thing independently? It's sad and unnecessary if her point is to be taken seriously as an actress.


Exactly. It screams codependency which can also be abuse in certain situations. How would you feel if your spouse came in and tried to do work on a project that had no role in?!


His money invested in the film gives him a role. And if you think BL wasn't thrilled to have him help her make the movie succeed you are just a man-hater. This was BL's first movie post kids. She has had no successes since Gossip Girls. It was almost as if she said to RR, It's my turn to work again, and I need a success, and RR did everything in his power to make it happen for her.


I am most certainly not a man-hater. He wasn't the director or screen writer. How do we know RR invested $ into the movie? I have not read that anywhere, but I am also not actively reading everything either, this just seems to be all over the place rn. BL is a producer and sometimes actors are given a producer credit even when not investing $ into the film. Not saying that happened here as BL allegedly was very involved, but if she was the producer why was RR also involved?

If my husband of 12+ years started taking over, it would not be a positive. Check out Ask a Manager and you'll read stories of spouses occasionally doing similar things and people are horrified! Yes, partners talk and brainstorm, but in no way would he come in and rewrite something.

I am an investor and not up in the businesses every day!

I don't know what happened, but it is unfortunate that some of these adults can't act like grown ups and old it together for a few weeks and focus on DV.

Also, what is up with all this unfollowing? Doesn't anyone know how to use mute? Just mute the person and don't see their stories and posts. Did they really have no clue that unfollowing him would cause so much drama? Just mute the person and if you must unfollow do it down the road.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake lively using the launch to hawk her hair line is giving me the major ick. Combined with the fact that she made her own cut that then failed in testing and now the director won’t speak to her. I usually love her and I still love a lot of things about her but a. Never noticed her hair being so amazing and b. Don’t springboard off a movie to launch a hair line. She could easily have done that whenever. Just feel so cringe


That’s not completely true ….what I will say is…. It’s not just Blake and Justin Baldoni (director/main character) not talking to each other – it’s pretty much the entire cast/Colleen Hoover Also not doing any press with Justin – and no longer following him on social media. Justin only took pictures with his wife on the red carpet at the Premier and had no interactions with the rest of the cast. Sounds like Blake and Ryan had to infuse a ton of money into the movie to get it back on track.


Yeah, I’ve been reading about this. But the way everyone has turned on the director feels very - middle school ostracism. It’s cruel and unkind and gives me flashbacks to my youth! That being said, maybe he did something egregious.


Agree. What irks me is that Colleen really bought for him to direct and play the character. And so for her to turn against them like that just seems like she got caught up in the whole Blake lively and her hair phenomenon lol.

I get it - she’s a star, but it does seem petty of Colleen and like she just acts on a whim. Justin is not a newcomer… He is pretty established in Hollywood so it would be surprising if he did something completely egregious and we aren’t hearing about it. He seems like a really nice guy, devoted to his wife, has a ton of fans, just seems weird that they turned against him.

I’m excited to see the movie but also happy that the press etc.
is going to die down now that opening opening weekend is done.


Even if they had a difference of opinion creatively or he was a bad director - to unfollow on social media and refuse to appear with him…very immature.

And apparently the screenwriter was surprised to learn that Ryan Reynolds rewrote some scenes. That’s disrespectful of someone who I imagine has had great professional success in the industry. I don’t like the egos.


This is completely normal for Hollywood. Happens all the time.


Someone's husband swoops in and rewrites scenes?


You can't look at Ryan Reynolds as "someone's husband" when it comes to Hollywood. He has becomes a major force (I mean, I like him, but his rise in power is pretty astounding) and that gives him the ability to do what he wants with a script he is involved in, given the money he/they put into it.

Plenty of Hollywood writers have gotten far worse treatment after writing a script.


He is absolutely someone's husband, an action dude with great business sense not known for his sensitivity. I'd be pretty pissed if writing a movie about DV and the Deadpool guy comes in and rewrites. How can her coworkers respect her (I know they do on the surface, because Ryan Reynolds money)? She can't do one thing independently? It's sad and unnecessary if her point is to be taken seriously as an actress.


Exactly. It screams codependency which can also be abuse in certain situations. How would you feel if your spouse came in and tried to do work on a project that had no role in?!


His money invested in the film gives him a role. And if you think BL wasn't thrilled to have him help her make the movie succeed you are just a man-hater. This was BL's first movie post kids. She has had no successes since Gossip Girls. It was almost as if she said to RR, It's my turn to work again, and I need a success, and RR did everything in his power to make it happen for her.


I am most certainly not a man-hater. He wasn't the director or screen writer. How do we know RR invested $ into the movie? I have not read that anywhere, but I am also not actively reading everything either, this just seems to be all over the place rn. BL is a producer and sometimes actors are given a producer credit even when not investing $ into the film. Not saying that happened here as BL allegedly was very involved, but if she was the producer why was RR also involved?

If my husband of 12+ years started taking over, it would not be a positive. Check out Ask a Manager and you'll read stories of spouses occasionally doing similar things and people are horrified! Yes, partners talk and brainstorm, but in no way would he come in and rewrite something.

I am an investor and not up in the businesses every day!

I don't know what happened, but it is unfortunate that some of these adults can't act like grown ups and old it together for a few weeks and focus on DV.

Also, what is up with all this unfollowing? Doesn't anyone know how to use mute? Just mute the person and don't see their stories and posts. Did they really have no clue that unfollowing him would cause so much drama? Just mute the person and if you must unfollow do it down the road.



I'm the PP, and I agree with many of your points. I'm only saying that for RR to be/get involved is not unheard of by a long shot in Hollywood. And I think BL caused the problems by talking about him rewriting "a" scene that was important to her character, and tons of people reacted badly to that. Basically, I really think the whole thing would have bombed had RR not stepped in. That is separate from actors and writers being immature and not focusing on the issue of DV--which is a shame.
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Anonymous wrote:Blake lively using the launch to hawk her hair line is giving me the major ick. Combined with the fact that she made her own cut that then failed in testing and now the director won’t speak to her. I usually love her and I still love a lot of things about her but a. Never noticed her hair being so amazing and b. Don’t springboard off a movie to launch a hair line. She could easily have done that whenever. Just feel so cringe


That’s not completely true ….what I will say is…. It’s not just Blake and Justin Baldoni (director/main character) not talking to each other – it’s pretty much the entire cast/Colleen Hoover Also not doing any press with Justin – and no longer following him on social media. Justin only took pictures with his wife on the red carpet at the Premier and had no interactions with the rest of the cast. Sounds like Blake and Ryan had to infuse a ton of money into the movie to get it back on track.


Yeah, I’ve been reading about this. But the way everyone has turned on the director feels very - middle school ostracism. It’s cruel and unkind and gives me flashbacks to my youth! That being said, maybe he did something egregious.


Agree. What irks me is that Colleen really bought for him to direct and play the character. And so for her to turn against them like that just seems like she got caught up in the whole Blake lively and her hair phenomenon lol.

I get it - she’s a star, but it does seem petty of Colleen and like she just acts on a whim. Justin is not a newcomer… He is pretty established in Hollywood so it would be surprising if he did something completely egregious and we aren’t hearing about it. He seems like a really nice guy, devoted to his wife, has a ton of fans, just seems weird that they turned against him.

I’m excited to see the movie but also happy that the press etc.
is going to die down now that opening opening weekend is done.


Even if they had a difference of opinion creatively or he was a bad director - to unfollow on social media and refuse to appear with him…very immature.

And apparently the screenwriter was surprised to learn that Ryan Reynolds rewrote some scenes. That’s disrespectful of someone who I imagine has had great professional success in the industry. I don’t like the egos.


This is completely normal for Hollywood. Happens all the time.


Someone's husband swoops in and rewrites scenes?


You can't look at Ryan Reynolds as "someone's husband" when it comes to Hollywood. He has becomes a major force (I mean, I like him, but his rise in power is pretty astounding) and that gives him the ability to do what he wants with a script he is involved in, given the money he/they put into it.

Plenty of Hollywood writers have gotten far worse treatment after writing a script.


He is absolutely someone's husband, an action dude with great business sense not known for his sensitivity. I'd be pretty pissed if writing a movie about DV and the Deadpool guy comes in and rewrites. How can her coworkers respect her (I know they do on the surface, because Ryan Reynolds money)? She can't do one thing independently? It's sad and unnecessary if her point is to be taken seriously as an actress.


Exactly. It screams codependency which can also be abuse in certain situations. How would you feel if your spouse came in and tried to do work on a project that had no role in?!


His money invested in the film gives him a role. And if you think BL wasn't thrilled to have him help her make the movie succeed you are just a man-hater. This was BL's first movie post kids. She has had no successes since Gossip Girls. It was almost as if she said to RR, It's my turn to work again, and I need a success, and RR did everything in his power to make it happen for her.


What do you mean this is her first role post Kids? This was her first role after having her fourth kid, but she has been a mom for the past nine years and has done several movies since having kids.

You’re right that she hasn’t had much success, though I think A Simple Favor did pretty well. That was mostly an Anna Kendrick movie, but she did costar. I think her Betty buzz nonalcoholic and alcoholic drinks are not doing that great and it’s likely her hair care line will not work. Her lifestyle company Preserve also flopped. Celebrity brands that work usually require a lot of attention and care from the celebrity. See Jen garners organic farm snacks for kids, the Olsen twins fashion company and GOOP. They are all heavily involved. Blake seems like she has started 4 different businesses and ignores them all.


I mean, post being pregnant. It feels very much like, Okay, I am done having OUR kids (I should have been clearer) and now it's my turn to be a success again. So RR, IMO, has worked hard to make sure this first venture is a success for her. Since they married and started having kids, RR's career and investments have skyrocketed. I doubt he was home much sharing parenting duties. Don't they have 4 kids?? Anyway, I'm not a huge BL fan, anyway, but even I can see how she starts a lot of things, none of them worked, and being a mom of 3 and now 4 little ones makes it hard when the dad is gone a lot jet-fueling his own career.

All to say, I feel that RR is doing anything he can to get this movie to work for BL, because she clearly hasn't been able to do it on her own -- for whatever reason. I feel as if even all the Taylor Swift girl's nights have been part of BL rebranding/relaunching. "I'm still young and hot and a movie star hanging out with TS!" So I have zero problem with RR the DH stepping in to help. And as I also mentioned, RR the hugely successful business person absolutely is going to step in for separate reasons. (Though no way he ever would have been involved with this movie had it not been for his wife. I would venture to say that they were headed for another failure--beyond a certain subset of rabid book fans--when RR got involved.)


Then be a supportive spouse and the primary parent. Take a backseat. Trust your partner.

I also am not a huge fan of people with "more power" coming and taking over, gives me the ick.

Until recently (maybe because of backlash) the only person talking about DV was Justin. Everyone else was making it sound like a rom com or trying to peddle their hair care line and drinks.
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Anonymous wrote:Blake lively using the launch to hawk her hair line is giving me the major ick. Combined with the fact that she made her own cut that then failed in testing and now the director won’t speak to her. I usually love her and I still love a lot of things about her but a. Never noticed her hair being so amazing and b. Don’t springboard off a movie to launch a hair line. She could easily have done that whenever. Just feel so cringe


That’s not completely true ….what I will say is…. It’s not just Blake and Justin Baldoni (director/main character) not talking to each other – it’s pretty much the entire cast/Colleen Hoover Also not doing any press with Justin – and no longer following him on social media. Justin only took pictures with his wife on the red carpet at the Premier and had no interactions with the rest of the cast. Sounds like Blake and Ryan had to infuse a ton of money into the movie to get it back on track.


Yeah, I’ve been reading about this. But the way everyone has turned on the director feels very - middle school ostracism. It’s cruel and unkind and gives me flashbacks to my youth! That being said, maybe he did something egregious.


Agree. What irks me is that Colleen really bought for him to direct and play the character. And so for her to turn against them like that just seems like she got caught up in the whole Blake lively and her hair phenomenon lol.

I get it - she’s a star, but it does seem petty of Colleen and like she just acts on a whim. Justin is not a newcomer… He is pretty established in Hollywood so it would be surprising if he did something completely egregious and we aren’t hearing about it. He seems like a really nice guy, devoted to his wife, has a ton of fans, just seems weird that they turned against him.

I’m excited to see the movie but also happy that the press etc.
is going to die down now that opening opening weekend is done.


Even if they had a difference of opinion creatively or he was a bad director - to unfollow on social media and refuse to appear with him…very immature.

And apparently the screenwriter was surprised to learn that Ryan Reynolds rewrote some scenes. That’s disrespectful of someone who I imagine has had great professional success in the industry. I don’t like the egos.


This is completely normal for Hollywood. Happens all the time.


Someone's husband swoops in and rewrites scenes?


You can't look at Ryan Reynolds as "someone's husband" when it comes to Hollywood. He has becomes a major force (I mean, I like him, but his rise in power is pretty astounding) and that gives him the ability to do what he wants with a script he is involved in, given the money he/they put into it.

Plenty of Hollywood writers have gotten far worse treatment after writing a script.


He is absolutely someone's husband, an action dude with great business sense not known for his sensitivity. I'd be pretty pissed if writing a movie about DV and the Deadpool guy comes in and rewrites. How can her coworkers respect her (I know they do on the surface, because Ryan Reynolds money)? She can't do one thing independently? It's sad and unnecessary if her point is to be taken seriously as an actress.


Exactly. It screams codependency which can also be abuse in certain situations. How would you feel if your spouse came in and tried to do work on a project that had no role in?!


His money invested in the film gives him a role. And if you think BL wasn't thrilled to have him help her make the movie succeed you are just a man-hater. This was BL's first movie post kids. She has had no successes since Gossip Girls. It was almost as if she said to RR, It's my turn to work again, and I need a success, and RR did everything in his power to make it happen for her.


I am most certainly not a man-hater. He wasn't the director or screen writer. How do we know RR invested $ into the movie? I have not read that anywhere, but I am also not actively reading everything either, this just seems to be all over the place rn. BL is a producer and sometimes actors are given a producer credit even when not investing $ into the film. Not saying that happened here as BL allegedly was very involved, but if she was the producer why was RR also involved?

If my husband of 12+ years started taking over, it would not be a positive. Check out Ask a Manager and you'll read stories of spouses occasionally doing similar things and people are horrified! Yes, partners talk and brainstorm, but in no way would he come in and rewrite something.

I am an investor and not up in the businesses every day!

I don't know what happened, but it is unfortunate that some of these adults can't act like grown ups and old it together for a few weeks and focus on DV.

Also, what is up with all this unfollowing? Doesn't anyone know how to use mute? Just mute the person and don't see their stories and posts. Did they really have no clue that unfollowing him would cause so much drama? Just mute the person and if you must unfollow do it down the road.



I haven't been to the website, but there is a difference is in what has been done. BL never should have said RR worked on the scene. It's like a woman who does an interview and says my DH helped me work on a spreadsheet for work. (That's probably not a perfect example.) As you said, partners frequently brainstorm ideas. But you don't then go tell the world that your partner helped you, as if your work partner wasn't good enough.

Frankly, I just think BL is challenged in many ways.
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Anonymous wrote:Blake lively using the launch to hawk her hair line is giving me the major ick. Combined with the fact that she made her own cut that then failed in testing and now the director won’t speak to her. I usually love her and I still love a lot of things about her but a. Never noticed her hair being so amazing and b. Don’t springboard off a movie to launch a hair line. She could easily have done that whenever. Just feel so cringe


That’s not completely true ….what I will say is…. It’s not just Blake and Justin Baldoni (director/main character) not talking to each other – it’s pretty much the entire cast/Colleen Hoover Also not doing any press with Justin – and no longer following him on social media. Justin only took pictures with his wife on the red carpet at the Premier and had no interactions with the rest of the cast. Sounds like Blake and Ryan had to infuse a ton of money into the movie to get it back on track.


Yeah, I’ve been reading about this. But the way everyone has turned on the director feels very - middle school ostracism. It’s cruel and unkind and gives me flashbacks to my youth! That being said, maybe he did something egregious.


Agree. What irks me is that Colleen really bought for him to direct and play the character. And so for her to turn against them like that just seems like she got caught up in the whole Blake lively and her hair phenomenon lol.

I get it - she’s a star, but it does seem petty of Colleen and like she just acts on a whim. Justin is not a newcomer… He is pretty established in Hollywood so it would be surprising if he did something completely egregious and we aren’t hearing about it. He seems like a really nice guy, devoted to his wife, has a ton of fans, just seems weird that they turned against him.

I’m excited to see the movie but also happy that the press etc.
is going to die down now that opening opening weekend is done.


Even if they had a difference of opinion creatively or he was a bad director - to unfollow on social media and refuse to appear with him…very immature.

And apparently the screenwriter was surprised to learn that Ryan Reynolds rewrote some scenes. That’s disrespectful of someone who I imagine has had great professional success in the industry. I don’t like the egos.


This is completely normal for Hollywood. Happens all the time.


Someone's husband swoops in and rewrites scenes?


You can't look at Ryan Reynolds as "someone's husband" when it comes to Hollywood. He has becomes a major force (I mean, I like him, but his rise in power is pretty astounding) and that gives him the ability to do what he wants with a script he is involved in, given the money he/they put into it.

Plenty of Hollywood writers have gotten far worse treatment after writing a script.


He is absolutely someone's husband, an action dude with great business sense not known for his sensitivity. I'd be pretty pissed if writing a movie about DV and the Deadpool guy comes in and rewrites. How can her coworkers respect her (I know they do on the surface, because Ryan Reynolds money)? She can't do one thing independently? It's sad and unnecessary if her point is to be taken seriously as an actress.


Exactly. It screams codependency which can also be abuse in certain situations. How would you feel if your spouse came in and tried to do work on a project that had no role in?!


His money invested in the film gives him a role. And if you think BL wasn't thrilled to have him help her make the movie succeed you are just a man-hater. This was BL's first movie post kids. She has had no successes since Gossip Girls. It was almost as if she said to RR, It's my turn to work again, and I need a success, and RR did everything in his power to make it happen for her.


What do you mean this is her first role post Kids? This was her first role after having her fourth kid, but she has been a mom for the past nine years and has done several movies since having kids.

You’re right that she hasn’t had much success, though I think A Simple Favor did pretty well. That was mostly an Anna Kendrick movie, but she did costar. I think her Betty buzz nonalcoholic and alcoholic drinks are not doing that great and it’s likely her hair care line will not work. Her lifestyle company Preserve also flopped. Celebrity brands that work usually require a lot of attention and care from the celebrity. See Jen garners organic farm snacks for kids, the Olsen twins fashion company and GOOP. They are all heavily involved. Blake seems like she has started 4 different businesses and ignores them all.


I mean, post being pregnant. It feels very much like, Okay, I am done having OUR kids (I should have been clearer) and now it's my turn to be a success again. So RR, IMO, has worked hard to make sure this first venture is a success for her. Since they married and started having kids, RR's career and investments have skyrocketed. I doubt he was home much sharing parenting duties. Don't they have 4 kids?? Anyway, I'm not a huge BL fan, anyway, but even I can see how she starts a lot of things, none of them worked, and being a mom of 3 and now 4 little ones makes it hard when the dad is gone a lot jet-fueling his own career.

All to say, I feel that RR is doing anything he can to get this movie to work for BL, because she clearly hasn't been able to do it on her own -- for whatever reason. I feel as if even all the Taylor Swift girl's nights have been part of BL rebranding/relaunching. "I'm still young and hot and a movie star hanging out with TS!" So I have zero problem with RR the DH stepping in to help. And as I also mentioned, RR the hugely successful business person absolutely is going to step in for separate reasons. (Though no way he ever would have been involved with this movie had it not been for his wife. I would venture to say that they were headed for another failure--beyond a certain subset of rabid book fans--when RR got involved.)


Then be a supportive spouse and the primary parent. Take a backseat. Trust your partner.

I also am not a huge fan of people with "more power" coming and taking over, gives me the ick.

Until recently (maybe because of backlash) the only person talking about DV was Justin. Everyone else was making it sound like a rom com or trying to peddle their hair care line and drinks.


You're sort of making my point. There is no reason to trust that BL could do this on her own. She hasn't been able to. So, because he cares and wants her to succeed and not have ANOTHER flop he steps in to help. Also separately, and unfortunately, a female centric movie about DV is not going to succeed.
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Anonymous wrote:Blake lively using the launch to hawk her hair line is giving me the major ick. Combined with the fact that she made her own cut that then failed in testing and now the director won’t speak to her. I usually love her and I still love a lot of things about her but a. Never noticed her hair being so amazing and b. Don’t springboard off a movie to launch a hair line. She could easily have done that whenever. Just feel so cringe


That’s not completely true ….what I will say is…. It’s not just Blake and Justin Baldoni (director/main character) not talking to each other – it’s pretty much the entire cast/Colleen Hoover Also not doing any press with Justin – and no longer following him on social media. Justin only took pictures with his wife on the red carpet at the Premier and had no interactions with the rest of the cast. Sounds like Blake and Ryan had to infuse a ton of money into the movie to get it back on track.


Yeah, I’ve been reading about this. But the way everyone has turned on the director feels very - middle school ostracism. It’s cruel and unkind and gives me flashbacks to my youth! That being said, maybe he did something egregious.


Agree. What irks me is that Colleen really bought for him to direct and play the character. And so for her to turn against them like that just seems like she got caught up in the whole Blake lively and her hair phenomenon lol.

I get it - she’s a star, but it does seem petty of Colleen and like she just acts on a whim. Justin is not a newcomer… He is pretty established in Hollywood so it would be surprising if he did something completely egregious and we aren’t hearing about it. He seems like a really nice guy, devoted to his wife, has a ton of fans, just seems weird that they turned against him.

I’m excited to see the movie but also happy that the press etc.
is going to die down now that opening opening weekend is done.


Even if they had a difference of opinion creatively or he was a bad director - to unfollow on social media and refuse to appear with him…very immature.

And apparently the screenwriter was surprised to learn that Ryan Reynolds rewrote some scenes. That’s disrespectful of someone who I imagine has had great professional success in the industry. I don’t like the egos.


This is completely normal for Hollywood. Happens all the time.


Someone's husband swoops in and rewrites scenes?


You can't look at Ryan Reynolds as "someone's husband" when it comes to Hollywood. He has becomes a major force (I mean, I like him, but his rise in power is pretty astounding) and that gives him the ability to do what he wants with a script he is involved in, given the money he/they put into it.

Plenty of Hollywood writers have gotten far worse treatment after writing a script.


He is absolutely someone's husband, an action dude with great business sense not known for his sensitivity. I'd be pretty pissed if writing a movie about DV and the Deadpool guy comes in and rewrites. How can her coworkers respect her (I know they do on the surface, because Ryan Reynolds money)? She can't do one thing independently? It's sad and unnecessary if her point is to be taken seriously as an actress.


Exactly. It screams codependency which can also be abuse in certain situations. How would you feel if your spouse came in and tried to do work on a project that had no role in?!


His money invested in the film gives him a role. And if you think BL wasn't thrilled to have him help her make the movie succeed you are just a man-hater. This was BL's first movie post kids. She has had no successes since Gossip Girls. It was almost as if she said to RR, It's my turn to work again, and I need a success, and RR did everything in his power to make it happen for her.


What do you mean this is her first role post Kids? This was her first role after having her fourth kid, but she has been a mom for the past nine years and has done several movies since having kids.

You’re right that she hasn’t had much success, though I think A Simple Favor did pretty well. That was mostly an Anna Kendrick movie, but she did costar. I think her Betty buzz nonalcoholic and alcoholic drinks are not doing that great and it’s likely her hair care line will not work. Her lifestyle company Preserve also flopped. Celebrity brands that work usually require a lot of attention and care from the celebrity. See Jen garners organic farm snacks for kids, the Olsen twins fashion company and GOOP. They are all heavily involved. Blake seems like she has started 4 different businesses and ignores them all.


I mean, post being pregnant. It feels very much like, Okay, I am done having OUR kids (I should have been clearer) and now it's my turn to be a success again. So RR, IMO, has worked hard to make sure this first venture is a success for her. Since they married and started having kids, RR's career and investments have skyrocketed. I doubt he was home much sharing parenting duties. Don't they have 4 kids?? Anyway, I'm not a huge BL fan, anyway, but even I can see how she starts a lot of things, none of them worked, and being a mom of 3 and now 4 little ones makes it hard when the dad is gone a lot jet-fueling his own career.

All to say, I feel that RR is doing anything he can to get this movie to work for BL, because she clearly hasn't been able to do it on her own -- for whatever reason. I feel as if even all the Taylor Swift girl's nights have been part of BL rebranding/relaunching. "I'm still young and hot and a movie star hanging out with TS!" So I have zero problem with RR the DH stepping in to help. And as I also mentioned, RR the hugely successful business person absolutely is going to step in for separate reasons. (Though no way he ever would have been involved with this movie had it not been for his wife. I would venture to say that they were headed for another failure--beyond a certain subset of rabid book fans--when RR got involved.)


Then be a supportive spouse and the primary parent. Take a backseat. Trust your partner.

I also am not a huge fan of people with "more power" coming and taking over, gives me the ick.

Until recently (maybe because of backlash) the only person talking about DV was Justin. Everyone else was making it sound like a rom com or trying to peddle their hair care line and drinks.


You're sort of making my point. There is no reason to trust that BL could do this on her own. She hasn't been able to. So, because he cares and wants her to succeed and not have ANOTHER flop he steps in to help. Also separately, and unfortunately, a female centric movie about DV is not going to succeed.


It might be because he cares. I’ve also heard he is extremely controlling. He might not be able to help himself.
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Anonymous wrote:Blake lively using the launch to hawk her hair line is giving me the major ick. Combined with the fact that she made her own cut that then failed in testing and now the director won’t speak to her. I usually love her and I still love a lot of things about her but a. Never noticed her hair being so amazing and b. Don’t springboard off a movie to launch a hair line. She could easily have done that whenever. Just feel so cringe


That’s not completely true ….what I will say is…. It’s not just Blake and Justin Baldoni (director/main character) not talking to each other – it’s pretty much the entire cast/Colleen Hoover Also not doing any press with Justin – and no longer following him on social media. Justin only took pictures with his wife on the red carpet at the Premier and had no interactions with the rest of the cast. Sounds like Blake and Ryan had to infuse a ton of money into the movie to get it back on track.


Yeah, I’ve been reading about this. But the way everyone has turned on the director feels very - middle school ostracism. It’s cruel and unkind and gives me flashbacks to my youth! That being said, maybe he did something egregious.


Agree. What irks me is that Colleen really bought for him to direct and play the character. And so for her to turn against them like that just seems like she got caught up in the whole Blake lively and her hair phenomenon lol.

I get it - she’s a star, but it does seem petty of Colleen and like she just acts on a whim. Justin is not a newcomer… He is pretty established in Hollywood so it would be surprising if he did something completely egregious and we aren’t hearing about it. He seems like a really nice guy, devoted to his wife, has a ton of fans, just seems weird that they turned against him.

I’m excited to see the movie but also happy that the press etc.
is going to die down now that opening opening weekend is done.


Even if they had a difference of opinion creatively or he was a bad director - to unfollow on social media and refuse to appear with him…very immature.

And apparently the screenwriter was surprised to learn that Ryan Reynolds rewrote some scenes. That’s disrespectful of someone who I imagine has had great professional success in the industry. I don’t like the egos.


This is completely normal for Hollywood. Happens all the time.


Someone's husband swoops in and rewrites scenes?


You can't look at Ryan Reynolds as "someone's husband" when it comes to Hollywood. He has becomes a major force (I mean, I like him, but his rise in power is pretty astounding) and that gives him the ability to do what he wants with a script he is involved in, given the money he/they put into it.

Plenty of Hollywood writers have gotten far worse treatment after writing a script.


He is absolutely someone's husband, an action dude with great business sense not known for his sensitivity. I'd be pretty pissed if writing a movie about DV and the Deadpool guy comes in and rewrites. How can her coworkers respect her (I know they do on the surface, because Ryan Reynolds money)? She can't do one thing independently? It's sad and unnecessary if her point is to be taken seriously as an actress.


Exactly. It screams codependency which can also be abuse in certain situations. How would you feel if your spouse came in and tried to do work on a project that had no role in?!


His money invested in the film gives him a role. And if you think BL wasn't thrilled to have him help her make the movie succeed you are just a man-hater. This was BL's first movie post kids. She has had no successes since Gossip Girls. It was almost as if she said to RR, It's my turn to work again, and I need a success, and RR did everything in his power to make it happen for her.


I am most certainly not a man-hater. He wasn't the director or screen writer. How do we know RR invested $ into the movie? I have not read that anywhere, but I am also not actively reading everything either, this just seems to be all over the place rn. BL is a producer and sometimes actors are given a producer credit even when not investing $ into the film. Not saying that happened here as BL allegedly was very involved, but if she was the producer why was RR also involved?

If my husband of 12+ years started taking over, it would not be a positive. Check out Ask a Manager and you'll read stories of spouses occasionally doing similar things and people are horrified! Yes, partners talk and brainstorm, but in no way would he come in and rewrite something.

I am an investor and not up in the businesses every day!

I don't know what happened, but it is unfortunate that some of these adults can't act like grown ups and old it together for a few weeks and focus on DV.

Also, what is up with all this unfollowing? Doesn't anyone know how to use mute? Just mute the person and don't see their stories and posts. Did they really have no clue that unfollowing him would cause so much drama? Just mute the person and if you must unfollow do it down the road.



I haven't been to the website, but there is a difference is in what has been done. BL never should have said RR worked on the scene. It's like a woman who does an interview and says my DH helped me work on a spreadsheet for work. (That's probably not a perfect example.) As you said, partners frequently brainstorm ideas. But you don't then go tell the world that your partner helped you, as if your work partner wasn't good enough.

Frankly, I just think BL is challenged in many ways.


It sounds like RR was very involved. BL states that and JB said something about RR involvement in a respectful way. Most people wouldn't have their boss (in this case the JB, Director) talking about someone's spouse working on their job? IMHO JB was respectful and kind about it, but most people would think a spouse doing that was controlling/codependent/major issue. There is a huge difference between brainstorming and actually rewriting work. Red flags all over the place.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone see this movie? Is it any good? I haven’t read the book and don’t really know anything about it but there’s a ton of hype (although on DCUM there is more focus on Blake Lively’s mole than her acting).

Also - is the book a worthwhile read for a middle-aged adult?

Thanks.


I read the book awhile ago and thought it was okay for a quick read. I tried to read the sequel (It Starts with Us) more recently and couldn’t get through it.

Personally, I haven’t seen the movie, but when I found out Blake Lively was cast as Lily my immediate reaction was that she’s too old. In the book Lily Bloom is a recent college graduate in her early 20s — not mid-30s. It seems like Colleen Hoover has been all-in on Blake but as a reader this seemed like an odd choice to me.
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