Bob Menendez indicted again

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His argument is that he’s worried that the United States government will start confiscating cash just just like the totalitarian regime his family fled.
Wonderful.

And, claiming that he has withdrawn $480,000 from his personal savings will need to be proven by him. This should be fun.

I wonder how he will explain away the gold bars or the Mercedes. Neither were mentioned in his pitiful press conference.

He doesn't have to explain any of that. The burden of proof is on the gov. And they are going to have a very hard to proving he got any of this in exchange for an official act.

Parsing the indictment, it sounds like Menendez got caught on intercepts of foreign comms. So he was communicating with foreigners (Egyptians?) we were already surveilling and started talking about pay-for-play.

It astounds me how deeply Egypt's tentacles go into DC right now. They got both parties sewn up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

His argument is that he’s worried that the United States government will start confiscating cash just just like the totalitarian regime his family fled.
Wonderful.

And, claiming that he has withdrawn $480,000 from his personal savings will need to be proven by him. This should be fun.

I wonder how he will explain away the gold bars or the Mercedes. Neither were mentioned in his pitiful press conference.

He doesn't have to explain any of that. The burden of proof is on the gov. And they are going to have a very hard to proving he got any of this in exchange for an official act.

Parsing the indictment, it sounds like Menendez got caught on intercepts of foreign comms. So he was communicating with foreigners (Egyptians?) we were already surveilling and started talking about pay-for-play.

It astounds me how deeply Egypt's tentacles go into DC right now. They got both parties sewn up.

Wait, the feds were spying on a senator and tapping his wires?!?!?!? Does Trump know about this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

His argument is that he’s worried that the United States government will start confiscating cash just just like the totalitarian regime his family fled.
Wonderful.

And, claiming that he has withdrawn $480,000 from his personal savings will need to be proven by him. This should be fun.

I wonder how he will explain away the gold bars or the Mercedes. Neither were mentioned in his pitiful press conference.

He doesn't have to explain any of that. The burden of proof is on the gov. And they are going to have a very hard to proving he got any of this in exchange for an official act.

Parsing the indictment, it sounds like Menendez got caught on intercepts of foreign comms. So he was communicating with foreigners (Egyptians?) we were already surveilling and started talking about pay-for-play.

It astounds me how deeply Egypt's tentacles go into DC right now. They got both parties sewn up.

Wait, the feds were spying on a senator and tapping his wires?!?!?!? Does Trump know about this?

Weaponization of government!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

His argument is that he’s worried that the United States government will start confiscating cash just just like the totalitarian regime his family fled.
Wonderful.

And, claiming that he has withdrawn $480,000 from his personal savings will need to be proven by him. This should be fun.

I wonder how he will explain away the gold bars or the Mercedes. Neither were mentioned in his pitiful press conference.

He doesn't have to explain any of that. The burden of proof is on the gov. And they are going to have a very hard to proving he got any of this in exchange for an official act.

Parsing the indictment, it sounds like Menendez got caught on intercepts of foreign comms. So he was communicating with foreigners (Egyptians?) we were already surveilling and started talking about pay-for-play.

It astounds me how deeply Egypt's tentacles go into DC right now. They got both parties sewn up.

A fun reminder that many Republicans were caught on comms that were being surveilled and the right wing mediasphere blew up about it, saying it was the deep state, it was illegal wire taps, it was this, it was that… it was anything but the fault of those who were conducting illegal business with foreigners!

Meanwhile there’s no orchestrated media message protecting Menendez and Democrats are calling on him to resign. You weren’t claiming both sides, PP, but I’d just like it to be clear that the two parties are having very different responses to criminality within their ranks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

His argument is that he’s worried that the United States government will start confiscating cash just just like the totalitarian regime his family fled.
Wonderful.

And, claiming that he has withdrawn $480,000 from his personal savings will need to be proven by him. This should be fun.

I wonder how he will explain away the gold bars or the Mercedes. Neither were mentioned in his pitiful press conference.

He doesn't have to explain any of that. The burden of proof is on the gov. And they are going to have a very hard to proving he got any of this in exchange for an official act.

Parsing the indictment, it sounds like Menendez got caught on intercepts of foreign comms. So he was communicating with foreigners (Egyptians?) we were already surveilling and started talking about pay-for-play.

It astounds me how deeply Egypt's tentacles go into DC right now. They got both parties sewn up.

Amid all his corruption, I bet everyone forgets that Trump's campaign was kept alive in 2016 by an illegal $10M payment from Egypt, Egypt fought the ensuing investigation, and then Barr buried it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

His argument is that he’s worried that the United States government will start confiscating cash just just like the totalitarian regime his family fled.
Wonderful.

And, claiming that he has withdrawn $480,000 from his personal savings will need to be proven by him. This should be fun.

I wonder how he will explain away the gold bars or the Mercedes. Neither were mentioned in his pitiful press conference.

He doesn't have to explain any of that. The burden of proof is on the gov. And they are going to have a very hard to proving he got any of this in exchange for an official act.

I wouldn't be so sure.
First, he made this comment publicly. They can access his bank records to see about that $480,000. That would be a hellovalot of withdrawals. Should be easy to check.

Secondly, there are others involved here. And, supposedly their DNA is on the cash. I see a plea deal with one or more of his co-conspirators.

What does it matter if he made the comment publicly? The cash probably did come from someone else. Just like the vacations, Rolex, cash, and golf equipment that McDonnell got came from someone else. Problem is that it's no longer illegal for elected officials to take that stuff so long as the quid pro quo isn't too clear or the quo is just setting up meetings or talking to other officials.

I do believe the acceptance of $480,000, gold bars that are valued at $100,000, and a mercedes exceed the gift limit rule and are not covered by exceptions. It is not just Senate rules, but law as well. And, one has to wonder if he claimed any of these on his income taxes.
https://www.ethics.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/gifts

I think his co-conspirators will be able to shed light on the quid pro quo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

His argument is that he’s worried that the United States government will start confiscating cash just just like the totalitarian regime his family fled.
Wonderful.

And, claiming that he has withdrawn $480,000 from his personal savings will need to be proven by him. This should be fun.

I wonder how he will explain away the gold bars or the Mercedes. Neither were mentioned in his pitiful press conference.

He doesn't have to explain any of that. The burden of proof is on the gov. And they are going to have a very hard to proving he got any of this in exchange for an official act.

I wouldn't be so sure.
First, he made this comment publicly. They can access his bank records to see about that $480,000. That would be a hellovalot of withdrawals. Should be easy to check.

Secondly, there are others involved here. And, supposedly their DNA is on the cash. I see a plea deal with one or more of his co-conspirators.

What does it matter if he made the comment publicly? The cash probably did come from someone else. Just like the vacations, Rolex, cash, and golf equipment that McDonnell got came from someone else. Problem is that it's no longer illegal for elected officials to take that stuff so long as the quid pro quo isn't too clear or the quo is just setting up meetings or talking to other officials.

I do believe the acceptance of $480,000, gold bars that are valued at $100,000, and a mercedes exceed the gift limit rule and are not covered by exceptions. It is not just Senate rules, but law as well. And, one has to wonder if he claimed any of these on his income taxes.
https://www.ethics.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/gifts

I think his co-conspirators will be able to shed light on the quid pro quo.

Gifts aren't taxable income. And getting gifts doesn't violate the law. The alleged quid pro quo is in the indictment and it doesn't pass the McDonnell test. It's totally corrupt, but it's also legal thanks to the Supreme Court.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

His argument is that he’s worried that the United States government will start confiscating cash just just like the totalitarian regime his family fled.
Wonderful.

And, claiming that he has withdrawn $480,000 from his personal savings will need to be proven by him. This should be fun.

I wonder how he will explain away the gold bars or the Mercedes. Neither were mentioned in his pitiful press conference.

He doesn't have to explain any of that. The burden of proof is on the gov. And they are going to have a very hard to proving he got any of this in exchange for an official act.

I wouldn't be so sure.
First, he made this comment publicly. They can access his bank records to see about that $480,000. That would be a hellovalot of withdrawals. Should be easy to check.

Secondly, there are others involved here. And, supposedly their DNA is on the cash. I see a plea deal with one or more of his co-conspirators.

What does it matter if he made the comment publicly? The cash probably did come from someone else. Just like the vacations, Rolex, cash, and golf equipment that McDonnell got came from someone else. Problem is that it's no longer illegal for elected officials to take that stuff so long as the quid pro quo isn't too clear or the quo is just setting up meetings or talking to other officials.

I do believe the acceptance of $480,000, gold bars that are valued at $100,000, and a mercedes exceed the gift limit rule and are not covered by exceptions. It is not just Senate rules, but law as well. And, one has to wonder if he claimed any of these on his income taxes.
https://www.ethics.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/gifts

I think his co-conspirators will be able to shed light on the quid pro quo.

Gifts aren't taxable income. And getting gifts doesn't violate the law. The alleged quid pro quo is in the indictment and it doesn't pass the McDonnell test. It's totally corrupt, but it's also legal thanks to the Supreme Court.

We shall see. Menendez is corrupt and has been for quite some time. I think they may have him this time.
Do you believe they put all the evidence they have in the indictment?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

His argument is that he’s worried that the United States government will start confiscating cash just just like the totalitarian regime his family fled.
Wonderful.

And, claiming that he has withdrawn $480,000 from his personal savings will need to be proven by him. This should be fun.

I wonder how he will explain away the gold bars or the Mercedes. Neither were mentioned in his pitiful press conference.

He doesn't have to explain any of that. The burden of proof is on the gov. And they are going to have a very hard to proving he got any of this in exchange for an official act.

I wouldn't be so sure.
First, he made this comment publicly. They can access his bank records to see about that $480,000. That would be a hellovalot of withdrawals. Should be easy to check.

Secondly, there are others involved here. And, supposedly their DNA is on the cash. I see a plea deal with one or more of his co-conspirators.

What does it matter if he made the comment publicly? The cash probably did come from someone else. Just like the vacations, Rolex, cash, and golf equipment that McDonnell got came from someone else. Problem is that it's no longer illegal for elected officials to take that stuff so long as the quid pro quo isn't too clear or the quo is just setting up meetings or talking to other officials.

This is now his defense. And, should evidence prove otherwise (the dates of the bills, the DNA on the cash, etc.), it will be very hard for him to alter this defense.
I think it was stupid of him to make so many comments during this press conference. But, he has not shown himself to be the smartest tool in the box.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

His argument is that he’s worried that the United States government will start confiscating cash just just like the totalitarian regime his family fled.
Wonderful.

And, claiming that he has withdrawn $480,000 from his personal savings will need to be proven by him. This should be fun.

I wonder how he will explain away the gold bars or the Mercedes. Neither were mentioned in his pitiful press conference.

He doesn't have to explain any of that. The burden of proof is on the gov. And they are going to have a very hard to proving he got any of this in exchange for an official act.

I wouldn't be so sure.
First, he made this comment publicly. They can access his bank records to see about that $480,000. That would be a hellovalot of withdrawals. Should be easy to check.

Secondly, there are others involved here. And, supposedly their DNA is on the cash. I see a plea deal with one or more of his co-conspirators.

What does it matter if he made the comment publicly? The cash probably did come from someone else. Just like the vacations, Rolex, cash, and golf equipment that McDonnell got came from someone else. Problem is that it's no longer illegal for elected officials to take that stuff so long as the quid pro quo isn't too clear or the quo is just setting up meetings or talking to other officials.

I do believe the acceptance of $480,000, gold bars that are valued at $100,000, and a mercedes exceed the gift limit rule and are not covered by exceptions. It is not just Senate rules, but law as well. And, one has to wonder if he claimed any of these on his income taxes.
https://www.ethics.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/gifts

I think his co-conspirators will be able to shed light on the quid pro quo.

Gifts aren't taxable income. And getting gifts doesn't violate the law. The alleged quid pro quo is in the indictment and it doesn't pass the McDonnell test. It's totally corrupt, but it's also legal thanks to the Supreme Court.

And literally what Clarence Thomas has himself received.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

His argument is that he’s worried that the United States government will start confiscating cash just just like the totalitarian regime his family fled.
Wonderful.

And, claiming that he has withdrawn $480,000 from his personal savings will need to be proven by him. This should be fun.

I wonder how he will explain away the gold bars or the Mercedes. Neither were mentioned in his pitiful press conference.

He doesn't have to explain any of that. The burden of proof is on the gov. And they are going to have a very hard to proving he got any of this in exchange for an official act.

I wouldn't be so sure.
First, he made this comment publicly. They can access his bank records to see about that $480,000. That would be a hellovalot of withdrawals. Should be easy to check.

Secondly, there are others involved here. And, supposedly their DNA is on the cash. I see a plea deal with one or more of his co-conspirators.

What does it matter if he made the comment publicly? The cash probably did come from someone else. Just like the vacations, Rolex, cash, and golf equipment that McDonnell got came from someone else. Problem is that it's no longer illegal for elected officials to take that stuff so long as the quid pro quo isn't too clear or the quo is just setting up meetings or talking to other officials.

I do believe the acceptance of $480,000, gold bars that are valued at $100,000, and a mercedes exceed the gift limit rule and are not covered by exceptions. It is not just Senate rules, but law as well. And, one has to wonder if he claimed any of these on his income taxes.
https://www.ethics.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/gifts

I think his co-conspirators will be able to shed light on the quid pro quo.

Gifts aren't taxable income. And getting gifts doesn't violate the law. The alleged quid pro quo is in the indictment and it doesn't pass the McDonnell test. It's totally corrupt, but it's also legal thanks to the Supreme Court.

We shall see. Menendez is corrupt and has been for quite some time. I think they may have him this time.
Do you believe they put all the evidence they have in the indictment?

No, of course the evidence isn't in the indictment. But the allegations are. I agree he is completely corrupt, but most corruption is legal.

[Anonymous]

Friendly reminder: In 2022, only 290 in 71,954 federal criminal cases—about 0.4%—went to trial and were acquitted. Overall, the federal government has something like 97% conviction rate .

The corrupt scum bag can play hard-to-get all he wants but I see a plea deal coming. At his age , a stiff sentence might as well be called a life sentence and he couldn't be more deserving.

-Bleeding liberal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Friendly reminder: In 2022, only 290 in 71,954 federal criminal cases—about 0.4%—went to trial and were acquitted. Overall, the federal government has something like 97% conviction rate .

The corrupt scum bag can play hard-to-get all he wants but I see a plea deal coming. At his age , a stiff sentence might as well be called a life sentence and he couldn't be more deserving.

-Bleeding liberal.

He’ll beat the worst of the charges and probably in the end plead to some vague misdemeanors. Plus his legal team will employ all sorts of procedural actions to make this drag on for a very long time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Friendly reminder: In 2022, only 290 in 71,954 federal criminal cases—about 0.4%—went to trial and were acquitted. Overall, the federal government has something like 97% conviction rate .

The corrupt scum bag can play hard-to-get all he wants but I see a plea deal coming. At his age , a stiff sentence might as well be called a life sentence and he couldn't be more deserving.

-Bleeding liberal.

Friendly reminder. Same guy took his last case on very similar allegations all the way to trial and got off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

His argument is that he’s worried that the United States government will start confiscating cash just just like the totalitarian regime his family fled.
Wonderful.

And, claiming that he has withdrawn $480,000 from his personal savings will need to be proven by him. This should be fun.

I wonder how he will explain away the gold bars or the Mercedes. Neither were mentioned in his pitiful press conference.

He doesn't have to explain any of that. The burden of proof is on the gov. And they are going to have a very hard to proving he got any of this in exchange for an official act.

Parsing the indictment, it sounds like Menendez got caught on intercepts of foreign comms. So he was communicating with foreigners (Egyptians?) we were already surveilling and started talking about pay-for-play.

It astounds me how deeply Egypt's tentacles go into DC right now. They got both parties sewn up.

Wait, the feds were spying on a senator and tapping his wires?!?!?!? Does Trump know about this?

No I think they were surveiling the Egyptian's and recorded their conversations with Menendez.