Official Government Shutdown 2023 Thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They’ll pass a CR. I don’t recall the details but I thought a CR in place on April 30 basically cuts total discretionary funding to FY 2022 levels, which is what the freedom caucus wants. An annualized CR is a more likely outcome than getting the Senate to enact appropriations below the levels agreed to in May.

The problem is that the Freedom Caucus wants funding cut below the levels already agreed to AND they want their border security legislation too.

The only way we avoid a shutdown is if McCarthy can convince a coalition of Ra and Ds to support a bill but trying to pass a bill without the Freedom Caucus could end his speakership

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They’ll pass a CR. I don’t recall the details but I thought a CR in place on April 30 basically cuts total discretionary funding to FY 2022 levels, which is what the freedom caucus wants. An annualized CR is a more likely outcome than getting the Senate to enact appropriations below the levels agreed to in May.

Not sure they want defense spending cut so that's the incentive to pass something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They’ll pass a CR. I don’t recall the details but I thought a CR in place on April 30 basically cuts total discretionary funding to FY 2022 levels, which is what the freedom caucus wants. An annualized CR is a more likely outcome than getting the Senate to enact appropriations below the levels agreed to in May.

The problem is that the Freedom Caucus wants funding cut below the levels already agreed to AND they want their border security legislation too.

The only way we avoid a shutdown is if McCarthy can convince a coalition of Ra and Ds to support a bill but trying to pass a bill without the Freedom Caucus could end his speakership

Here is Ken Buck basically saying McCarthy has written a bunch of checks he can’t cash.

https://apple.news/AUZ3_sRXORwWHL5a1miHzcg

[Anonymous]

I think it's likely there will be a shutdown.

The debt ceiling deal has a CR that takes place on January first that has a slight reduction in spending, mostly falling on defense.

This reduction is probably less than the reduction demanded by freedom cause members. The Democrats have little political incentive to sign on to something worse than the cr, and to save a fractured gop conference.

The freedom caucus members have little incentive to be reasonable. They get elected by being firebrands.

The only way shutdown is avoided, imo, is if the gop can credibly make it look like the shutdown is the Dems fault - otherwise, Dems best move is not to play and wait until January.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They’ll pass a CR. I don’t recall the details but I thought a CR in place on April 30 basically cuts total discretionary funding to FY 2022 levels, which is what the freedom caucus wants. An annualized CR is a more likely outcome than getting the Senate to enact appropriations below the levels agreed to in May.

The problem is that the Freedom Caucus wants funding cut below the levels already agreed to AND they want their border security legislation too.

The only way we avoid a shutdown is if McCarthy can convince a coalition of Ra and Ds to support a bill but trying to pass a bill without the Freedom Caucus could end his speakership

No, that is not going to happen. The Freedom Caucus is larger than it used to be, but they are not strong enough to oust McCarthy. They threaten that every time that McCarthy has worked for bipartisan acceptance of something that has been stonewalled by the far right. He's gotten a few wins past them and they still have not ousted him. The only time he pushes something bipartisan is when he gets enough moderate Republican support to offset a potential loss of Speakership. The man knows his political warfare and he will not push anything through unless he has enough R votes to prevent a speakership battle. Once he gets that level of support, he can push it through because he knows that the Freedom Caucus will not be able to oust him.

So, it isn't just getting enough votes to pass something. And when it comes to preventing the government shutdown, he will be able to do that. It just matters what concessions he'll have to get from the Democrats to appease the less extreme Republicans to get them to vote with him and also prevent them from siding with the far right to oust him from the speakership. A hard line to toe but he's managed it a couple of times recently and those were harder sells than preventing a government shutdown. He'll be able to do it. It's just a question of how much concession from less Conservative Republicans and Democrats will be necessary.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I HATE government employees. There are a LOT of people that contract for the government that won't get paid. You are so selfish wishing for a shutdown when the people who actually DO YOUR JOB for you won't get paid.

Very few Feds want a shutdown, and OP is a pretty obvious troll. You hear people "wishing" for a shutdown because talking about the solver lining is more fun than worrying about the hit to the mission, the mess to dig out when we return, or the income of our contractor spouses.

I don't hate contractors as people but I do hate that so much has been outsourced. I'd much rather your job was Federal. The whole concept of using contractors (and then having Feds monitor them) is a mess. Don't be mad at Feds for a system we don't like and didn't create.

When the government makes it easier for someone who is not disabled, not an underserved minority, and not a veteran to get a Federal job, then perhaps my job will be federal. But until then, I'll keep applying and getting rejected for jobs like yours. I refuse to lie about being disabled, I won't do it. So I'll stay a contractor.

NP and tangential comment. I’m not disabled or a vet and have no contacts whatsoever in the Fed jobs I was hired for. There is an art to submitting your resume for a federal job. You must tailor your resume to the announcement. In your write-up of job duties, use the keywords from the announcement as job duties. It’s time consuming but it works. They discuss this in Federal resume classes too (when Feds want to promote or change Agencies). Some agencies will let you attend Federal resume writing classes, look into it. This is how I did it.

Usajobs offers it for free to everyone

[Anonymous]

What happens to hiring during a shutdown? I’ve been referred for several positions that all closed in the past month. Not a chance they will hire someone before September 30. If there’s a shutdown, are these vacancies just on hold or do they get cancelled and reopened?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What happens to hiring during a shutdown? I’ve been referred for several positions that all closed in the past month. Not a chance they will hire someone before September 30. If there’s a shutdown, are these vacancies just on hold or do they get cancelled and reopened?

If there is sufficient funding post-shutdown, the hiring process picks up where it was left.

If there is not sufficient funding post-shutdown, the vacancy is closed without anyone being hired and there will not be an immediate reposting.

[Anonymous]

Any chance an agency will fast track an offer in anticipation of a shutdown?

[Anonymous]

Nice to see people here planning cozy staycations, me time, and all that. Many feds live paycheck to paycheck. JFC with the being out of touch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any chance an agency will fast track an offer in anticipation of a shutdown?

Zero.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What happens to hiring during a shutdown? I’ve been referred for several positions that all closed in the past month. Not a chance they will hire someone before September 30. If there’s a shutdown, are these vacancies just on hold or do they get cancelled and reopened?

Probably reopened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What kinds of jobs are excepted?

if you have to ask …

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any chance an agency will fast track an offer in anticipation of a shutdown?

Zero.

A quantum of a chance but only if the position to be filled is not funded with appropriated dollars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What kinds of jobs are excepted?

if you have to ask …

…it might be because you started as a Fed in the last month.