2022-2023 PARCC Data Released
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Anonymous
Atrocious scores for DCI’s demographics. |
Anonymous
Everyone takes the same test in DC. Maybe you prefer to rely for your data on anonymous posters in DCUM? Or does that just depend on modeling assumptions? |
Anonymous
I think the sheet backs that up. If you look at Jackson-Reed or Walls, the number of 9th graders taking one of the 3 Math PARCCs (A1, Geo or A2) adds up to their likely total class enrollment (~470 for JR and ~150 for Walls). Then in 10th grade, the total falls off dramatically (170+ for JR and ~30 for Walls) and mostly in Geo. Are the other kids not taking PARCC? The number of 9th graders taking A2 in J-R is only 49 and 212 took Geo PARCC, with the rest taking A1. If the same pattern held for the current 10th grade cohort, why are only n<10 taking A2? The same pattern repeats for Banneker -- so the only thing I can conclude is that 10th graders mostly take Geo PARCC. If they have already done that earlier, then they don't seem to take PARCC at all? I may be missing something given the filters though. |
Anonymous
Oh FFS. No, not everyone takes the same test. Some people take Algebra I. Some people take Algebra II. Some people take Geometry. Some people take the MSAA. And some people take no math standardized test at all. Kids take the test for the *class* they are taking, not the grade they are in. So to do a geniune comparison of two schools' math performance, you'd have to carefully control for those things. And even then, it wouldn't tell you anything at all about upper-level math courses. |
Anonymous
Eliot Hine employee posting this? Scores for African American students at Eliot Hine were terrible. |
Anonymous
Nope, you've got the gist of it. Lots of kids take no PARCC math test at all. PARCC is a terrible test and the lack of data on upper-level math courses, and the performance of most 11th and 12th graders is one of the reasons I so dislike it. |
Anonymous
Ok no. Comparing math PARCC scores across schools is a lot more complex than that. And the better the school, the smaller the proportion of students are even taking any math PARCC test at all. I'm not claiming any special knowledge of these schools, or expressing any opinion about their relative performance. Just saying it's much more complicated than what you're doing. |
Anonymous
When there's room on the margins maybe. But those scores just empirically stink. |
Anonymous
Ludlow? |
Anonymous
Well, yes, they aren't very good. But for the higher-performing high schools, so many students have progressed beyond Algebra I, Algebra II, and Geometry, that it just isn't that helpful a data set. If School A were crushing School B in pre-calc or Calc A/B or whatever, wouldn't you want to include that in your analysis? But we just don't have that. |
Anonymous
If I didn't write anything, that means it's about the same-ish. |
Anonymous
The bolded illustrates why people can look at the same scores and see different things. Or look at scores and try and just dismiss them. Your post reads like it was written by a teacher. From that perspective this is about teaching effectiveness and growth. That is not how most parents view these scores. We look at them and ask ourselves whether our kids will be in classes with a bunch of kids who are WAY behind grade level. You can try and rationalize away that low scores are because of low SES or other reasons, but whether 80+% of my kids classmates are low SES or not doesn't make me feel any better about my kid being in classes with a bunch of remedial students. |
Anonymous
I don't know whether it makes sense for 11th and 12th graders to take PARCC at all, given SAT, PSAT, ACT and AP exams, the latter covering upper-level courses. That said, the proficiency rates for these are not where I would expect them -- J-R (9th only) A1 - 16% (and who knows how many 5s in that) Geo - 40% A2 - 51% Walls A1 - 62% Geo - 715 A2 - 74% The A2 results are odd, since these are kids from Deal, Hardy, Basis (and possibly privates) who have gone through Geo in 8th and are the more advanced kids. |
Anonymous
I don't pretend to understand the math/algebra/geometry PARCC data. And lord knows OSSE seems to have made it even harder to grasp WTF is all means with this year's data dump. But your explanation doesn't track. If that was the reason for low test scores then it should similarly impact all other schools. I mean, I assume you aren't suggesting that DCI's students are more advanced than BASIS, Walls and Banneker? |
Anonymous
Wow. You are a terrible human being. Remedial students still have plenty to offer. My kid went to a Title I school all the way through elementary school. She made great friends. Now in HS, she is still friends with them. School isn’t where everyone excels and that’s ok. There is more to being human than good PARCC scores. You are just a miserable person. |