It is so hard this year, McLean HS boy 4.6 GPA got rejected from UVA

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Anonymous wrote:I weep at night for rich kids from McLean going to college with no student loans.


Plenty of donut hole families that will have to pay $80 (many loans) for each kid. In-state tuition is a biggie. $320k for each kid is a huge 4-year college ask.


If you’re a “donut hole” family you have no business living in McLean.


WTF? We're a "donut hole" family living in Great Falls, in a small home. Who are you to tell others where to live?
DP


Same here. Very small home.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “news” and isn’t a troll. It’s ok for a parent to enter an anonymous forum to express frustration. I do want to know if this is a white male. I worry about increasing racism as a result of this shift in the game. You assume you are too ranked based on measurements that, some argue, put some at a disadvantage. Schools try to create a student population that more adequately represents the world on a global scale, not just a historically white male dominated educational institution.


They said the majority admitted identified as more than one race when we attended the info session. It's pretty disheartening for Caucasian kids to basically be told 'need not apply' at every.single.info session-college tour. And every college flier we receive makes it look like all of these schools are 95% URM with the students they put on the cover. I mean if someone was up there in a room full of URMs saying 'the majority of our incoming are white (with a huge smile-isn't that great!!) there would be outrage and lawsuits...oh wait...dope!


You sound ridiculous. UVA is 56% white.
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No, class of 2026 is only 47.2% white. Class of 2027, when settled, will be even lower"

Tpie chart shows that 47.3 percent of incoming students are White; 20.0 percent Asian-American; 8.1 percent Black; 7.6 percent Hispanic; 5.4 percent multi-race; 5.4 percent nonresident alient; and 5.9 percent unknown or other, which includes 0.1 percent American Indian or Alaskan Native and 0.1 percent Native ...Oct 21, 2022

The class of 2026, by the numbers - VIRGINIA Magazine

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https://uvamagazine.org › articles › the_class_of_2026_b...


So in a state that is 20% African American, UVA is 8% black but the problem here is white enrollment. Ok.


I can barely visit DCUM anymore. The racism in almost every single thread is getting insane.


Same.


New poster: it’s not racism to state facts. There are Sup Ct cases on this topic: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/10/10/supreme-court-race-unc-admission/

There are stats on this topic: https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/577722-more-than-a-third-of-white-students-lie-about-their/amp/

URMs (among others) do get a thumb on the scale when evaluating their applications. Yes, they have to be qualified but an URM, 1st Gen, applicant from a rural area, etc DO get a leg up if they have the stats. Meanwhile, Asians rank lower in personality traits because they are Asian (a point in the Harvard case admitted by Harvard during oral arguments).

These are facts. It is easier for some to get in to schools, TJ, college certain programs, etc., if you have a hook, and a hook can absolutely be your race. Race can also be an anchor for some.


A lot of Asian families have classist attitudes & don’t have their kids in real-world activities like part-time jobs.

DP.. ok, and? That's not relevant to this issue.

FWIW, I worked my way through college, and my HSer has had a job since 16.

-Asian American


It is and it isn’t. Universities want to create diverse communities. And diversity is about more than race. If one ethnic background pushes their kids into a narrow range of ECs, none of the kids stand out. They don’t want half the class to be violin or cello players and no one with work experience.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “news” and isn’t a troll. It’s ok for a parent to enter an anonymous forum to express frustration. I do want to know if this is a white male. I worry about increasing racism as a result of this shift in the game. You assume you are too ranked based on measurements that, some argue, put some at a disadvantage. Schools try to create a student population that more adequately represents the world on a global scale, not just a historically white male dominated educational institution.


They said the majority admitted identified as more than one race when we attended the info session. It's pretty disheartening for Caucasian kids to basically be told 'need not apply' at every.single.info session-college tour. And every college flier we receive makes it look like all of these schools are 95% URM with the students they put on the cover. I mean if someone was up there in a room full of URMs saying 'the majority of our incoming are white (with a huge smile-isn't that great!!) there would be outrage and lawsuits...oh wait...dope!


You sound ridiculous. UVA is 56% white.
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No, class of 2026 is only 47.2% white. Class of 2027, when settled, will be even lower"

Tpie chart shows that 47.3 percent of incoming students are White; 20.0 percent Asian-American; 8.1 percent Black; 7.6 percent Hispanic; 5.4 percent multi-race; 5.4 percent nonresident alient; and 5.9 percent unknown or other, which includes 0.1 percent American Indian or Alaskan Native and 0.1 percent Native ...Oct 21, 2022

The class of 2026, by the numbers - VIRGINIA Magazine

VIRGINIA Magazine
https://uvamagazine.org › articles › the_class_of_2026_b...


So in a state that is 20% African American, UVA is 8% black but the problem here is white enrollment. Ok.


I can barely visit DCUM anymore. The racism in almost every single thread is getting insane.


Same.


New poster: it’s not racism to state facts. There are Sup Ct cases on this topic: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/10/10/supreme-court-race-unc-admission/

There are stats on this topic: https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/577722-more-than-a-third-of-white-students-lie-about-their/amp/

URMs (among others) do get a thumb on the scale when evaluating their applications. Yes, they have to be qualified but an URM, 1st Gen, applicant from a rural area, etc DO get a leg up if they have the stats. Meanwhile, Asians rank lower in personality traits because they are Asian (a point in the Harvard case admitted by Harvard during oral arguments).

These are facts. It is easier for some to get in to schools, TJ, college certain programs, etc., if you have a hook, and a hook can absolutely be your race. Race can also be an anchor for some.


A lot of Asian families have classist attitudes & don’t have their kids in real-world activities like part-time jobs.

DP.. ok, and? That's not relevant to this issue.

FWIW, I worked my way through college, and my HSer has had a job since 16.

-Asian American


It is relevant to the personality ratings issue.

so, unless they have PT jobs, they score low on "personality"? LOL.. GMAFB.... how many privileged white kids have PT jobs and "real world" activities? Do they score low in personality rating?
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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “news” and isn’t a troll. It’s ok for a parent to enter an anonymous forum to express frustration. I do want to know if this is a white male. I worry about increasing racism as a result of this shift in the game. You assume you are too ranked based on measurements that, some argue, put some at a disadvantage. Schools try to create a student population that more adequately represents the world on a global scale, not just a historically white male dominated educational institution.


They said the majority admitted identified as more than one race when we attended the info session. It's pretty disheartening for Caucasian kids to basically be told 'need not apply' at every.single.info session-college tour. And every college flier we receive makes it look like all of these schools are 95% URM with the students they put on the cover. I mean if someone was up there in a room full of URMs saying 'the majority of our incoming are white (with a huge smile-isn't that great!!) there would be outrage and lawsuits...oh wait...dope!


You sound ridiculous. UVA is 56% white.
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No, class of 2026 is only 47.2% white. Class of 2027, when settled, will be even lower"

Tpie chart shows that 47.3 percent of incoming students are White; 20.0 percent Asian-American; 8.1 percent Black; 7.6 percent Hispanic; 5.4 percent multi-race; 5.4 percent nonresident alient; and 5.9 percent unknown or other, which includes 0.1 percent American Indian or Alaskan Native and 0.1 percent Native ...Oct 21, 2022

The class of 2026, by the numbers - VIRGINIA Magazine

VIRGINIA Magazine
https://uvamagazine.org › articles › the_class_of_2026_b...


So in a state that is 20% African American, UVA is 8% black but the problem here is white enrollment. Ok.


I can barely visit DCUM anymore. The racism in almost every single thread is getting insane.


Same.


New poster: it’s not racism to state facts. There are Sup Ct cases on this topic: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/10/10/supreme-court-race-unc-admission/

There are stats on this topic: https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/577722-more-than-a-third-of-white-students-lie-about-their/amp/

URMs (among others) do get a thumb on the scale when evaluating their applications. Yes, they have to be qualified but an URM, 1st Gen, applicant from a rural area, etc DO get a leg up if they have the stats. Meanwhile, Asians rank lower in personality traits because they are Asian (a point in the Harvard case admitted by Harvard during oral arguments).

These are facts. It is easier for some to get in to schools, TJ, college certain programs, etc., if you have a hook, and a hook can absolutely be your race. Race can also be an anchor for some.


the scapegoating of blacks and Hispanics who make up a small percentage of admits and students at both schools is racist. There are a host of factors underpinning your FCPS snowflake’s rejection and to single that one out smacks of racism.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “news” and isn’t a troll. It’s ok for a parent to enter an anonymous forum to express frustration. I do want to know if this is a white male. I worry about increasing racism as a result of this shift in the game. You assume you are too ranked based on measurements that, some argue, put some at a disadvantage. Schools try to create a student population that more adequately represents the world on a global scale, not just a historically white male dominated educational institution.


They said the majority admitted identified as more than one race when we attended the info session. It's pretty disheartening for Caucasian kids to basically be told 'need not apply' at every.single.info session-college tour. And every college flier we receive makes it look like all of these schools are 95% URM with the students they put on the cover. I mean if someone was up there in a room full of URMs saying 'the majority of our incoming are white (with a huge smile-isn't that great!!) there would be outrage and lawsuits...oh wait...dope!


You sound ridiculous. UVA is 56% white.
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No, class of 2026 is only 47.2% white. Class of 2027, when settled, will be even lower"

Tpie chart shows that 47.3 percent of incoming students are White; 20.0 percent Asian-American; 8.1 percent Black; 7.6 percent Hispanic; 5.4 percent multi-race; 5.4 percent nonresident alient; and 5.9 percent unknown or other, which includes 0.1 percent American Indian or Alaskan Native and 0.1 percent Native ...Oct 21, 2022

The class of 2026, by the numbers - VIRGINIA Magazine

VIRGINIA Magazine
https://uvamagazine.org › articles › the_class_of_2026_b...


So in a state that is 20% African American, UVA is 8% black but the problem here is white enrollment. Ok.


I can barely visit DCUM anymore. The racism in almost every single thread is getting insane.


Same.


New poster: it’s not racism to state facts. There are Sup Ct cases on this topic: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/10/10/supreme-court-race-unc-admission/

There are stats on this topic: https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/577722-more-than-a-third-of-white-students-lie-about-their/amp/

URMs (among others) do get a thumb on the scale when evaluating their applications. Yes, they have to be qualified but an URM, 1st Gen, applicant from a rural area, etc DO get a leg up if they have the stats. Meanwhile, Asians rank lower in personality traits because they are Asian (a point in the Harvard case admitted by Harvard during oral arguments).

These are facts. It is easier for some to get in to schools, TJ, college certain programs, etc., if you have a hook, and a hook can absolutely be your race. Race can also be an anchor for some.


A lot of Asian families have classist attitudes & don’t have their kids in real-world activities like part-time jobs.

DP.. ok, and? That's not relevant to this issue.

FWIW, I worked my way through college, and my HSer has had a job since 16.

-Asian American


It is relevant to the personality ratings issue.


Does uva or tech have a personality rating in its process? Have they been shown to do what Harvard did? If not why is it relevant here?
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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “news” and isn’t a troll. It’s ok for a parent to enter an anonymous forum to express frustration. I do want to know if this is a white male. I worry about increasing racism as a result of this shift in the game. You assume you are too ranked based on measurements that, some argue, put some at a disadvantage. Schools try to create a student population that more adequately represents the world on a global scale, not just a historically white male dominated educational institution.


They said the majority admitted identified as more than one race when we attended the info session. It's pretty disheartening for Caucasian kids to basically be told 'need not apply' at every.single.info session-college tour. And every college flier we receive makes it look like all of these schools are 95% URM with the students they put on the cover. I mean if someone was up there in a room full of URMs saying 'the majority of our incoming are white (with a huge smile-isn't that great!!) there would be outrage and lawsuits...oh wait...dope!


You sound ridiculous. UVA is 56% white.
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No, class of 2026 is only 47.2% white. Class of 2027, when settled, will be even lower"

Tpie chart shows that 47.3 percent of incoming students are White; 20.0 percent Asian-American; 8.1 percent Black; 7.6 percent Hispanic; 5.4 percent multi-race; 5.4 percent nonresident alient; and 5.9 percent unknown or other, which includes 0.1 percent American Indian or Alaskan Native and 0.1 percent Native ...Oct 21, 2022

The class of 2026, by the numbers - VIRGINIA Magazine

VIRGINIA Magazine
https://uvamagazine.org › articles › the_class_of_2026_b...


So in a state that is 20% African American, UVA is 8% black but the problem here is white enrollment. Ok.


I can barely visit DCUM anymore. The racism in almost every single thread is getting insane.


Same.


New poster: it’s not racism to state facts. There are Sup Ct cases on this topic: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/10/10/supreme-court-race-unc-admission/

There are stats on this topic: https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/577722-more-than-a-third-of-white-students-lie-about-their/amp/

URMs (among others) do get a thumb on the scale when evaluating their applications. Yes, they have to be qualified but an URM, 1st Gen, applicant from a rural area, etc DO get a leg up if they have the stats. Meanwhile, Asians rank lower in personality traits because they are Asian (a point in the Harvard case admitted by Harvard during oral arguments).

These are facts. It is easier for some to get in to schools, TJ, college certain programs, etc., if you have a hook, and a hook can absolutely be your race. Race can also be an anchor for some.


A lot of Asian families have classist attitudes & don’t have their kids in real-world activities like part-time jobs.

DP.. ok, and? That's not relevant to this issue.

FWIW, I worked my way through college, and my HSer has had a job since 16.

-Asian American


It is and it isn’t. Universities want to create diverse communities. And diversity is about more than race. If one ethnic background pushes their kids into a narrow range of ECs, none of the kids stand out. They don’t want half the class to be violin or cello players and no one with work experience.


+1
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It'll be fine. Choose another school and prosper there. I didn't get into a college that I "should" have with my grades, activities, and stats. Went somewhere else and managed to have a happy and successful life regardless.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “news” and isn’t a troll. It’s ok for a parent to enter an anonymous forum to express frustration. I do want to know if this is a white male. I worry about increasing racism as a result of this shift in the game. You assume you are too ranked based on measurements that, some argue, put some at a disadvantage. Schools try to create a student population that more adequately represents the world on a global scale, not just a historically white male dominated educational institution.


They said the majority admitted identified as more than one race when we attended the info session. It's pretty disheartening for Caucasian kids to basically be told 'need not apply' at every.single.info session-college tour. And every college flier we receive makes it look like all of these schools are 95% URM with the students they put on the cover. I mean if someone was up there in a room full of URMs saying 'the majority of our incoming are white (with a huge smile-isn't that great!!) there would be outrage and lawsuits...oh wait...dope!


You sound ridiculous. UVA is 56% white.
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No, class of 2026 is only 47.2% white. Class of 2027, when settled, will be even lower"

Tpie chart shows that 47.3 percent of incoming students are White; 20.0 percent Asian-American; 8.1 percent Black; 7.6 percent Hispanic; 5.4 percent multi-race; 5.4 percent nonresident alient; and 5.9 percent unknown or other, which includes 0.1 percent American Indian or Alaskan Native and 0.1 percent Native ...Oct 21, 2022

The class of 2026, by the numbers - VIRGINIA Magazine

VIRGINIA Magazine
https://uvamagazine.org › articles › the_class_of_2026_b...


So in a state that is 20% African American, UVA is 8% black but the problem here is white enrollment. Ok.


I can barely visit DCUM anymore. The racism in almost every single thread is getting insane.


Same.


New poster: it’s not racism to state facts. There are Sup Ct cases on this topic: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/10/10/supreme-court-race-unc-admission/

There are stats on this topic: https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/577722-more-than-a-third-of-white-students-lie-about-their/amp/

URMs (among others) do get a thumb on the scale when evaluating their applications. Yes, they have to be qualified but an URM, 1st Gen, applicant from a rural area, etc DO get a leg up if they have the stats. Meanwhile, Asians rank lower in personality traits because they are Asian (a point in the Harvard case admitted by Harvard during oral arguments).

These are facts. It is easier for some to get in to schools, TJ, college certain programs, etc., if you have a hook, and a hook can absolutely be your race. Race can also be an anchor for some.


A lot of Asian families have classist attitudes & don’t have their kids in real-world activities like part-time jobs.

DP.. ok, and? That's not relevant to this issue.

FWIW, I worked my way through college, and my HSer has had a job since 16.

-Asian American


It is relevant to the personality ratings issue.

so, unless they have PT jobs, they score low on "personality"? LOL.. GMAFB.... how many privileged white kids have PT jobs and "real world" activities? Do they score low in personality rating?


Regardless, there is a trend against colleges favoring students with expensive ECs like violin, cello, travel sports, pilots license, high school study abroad etc.
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In State, similar stats to OP.
Accepted into UVA, UMD, Vtech and W&M. I think it came down to ECs, essays and recommendations except for SAT and GPA ( they are not big difference).
60 word essay can differentiate you from the others.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “news” and isn’t a troll. It’s ok for a parent to enter an anonymous forum to express frustration. I do want to know if this is a white male. I worry about increasing racism as a result of this shift in the game. You assume you are too ranked based on measurements that, some argue, put some at a disadvantage. Schools try to create a student population that more adequately represents the world on a global scale, not just a historically white male dominated educational institution.


They said the majority admitted identified as more than one race when we attended the info session. It's pretty disheartening for Caucasian kids to basically be told 'need not apply' at every.single.info session-college tour. And every college flier we receive makes it look like all of these schools are 95% URM with the students they put on the cover. I mean if someone was up there in a room full of URMs saying 'the majority of our incoming are white (with a huge smile-isn't that great!!) there would be outrage and lawsuits...oh wait...dope!


You sound ridiculous. UVA is 56% white.
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No, class of 2026 is only 47.2% white. Class of 2027, when settled, will be even lower"

Tpie chart shows that 47.3 percent of incoming students are White; 20.0 percent Asian-American; 8.1 percent Black; 7.6 percent Hispanic; 5.4 percent multi-race; 5.4 percent nonresident alient; and 5.9 percent unknown or other, which includes 0.1 percent American Indian or Alaskan Native and 0.1 percent Native ...Oct 21, 2022

The class of 2026, by the numbers - VIRGINIA Magazine

VIRGINIA Magazine
https://uvamagazine.org › articles › the_class_of_2026_b...


So in a state that is 20% African American, UVA is 8% black but the problem here is white enrollment. Ok.


I can barely visit DCUM anymore. The racism in almost every single thread is getting insane.


Same.


New poster: it’s not racism to state facts. There are Sup Ct cases on this topic: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/10/10/supreme-court-race-unc-admission/

There are stats on this topic: https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/577722-more-than-a-third-of-white-students-lie-about-their/amp/

URMs (among others) do get a thumb on the scale when evaluating their applications. Yes, they have to be qualified but an URM, 1st Gen, applicant from a rural area, etc DO get a leg up if they have the stats. Meanwhile, Asians rank lower in personality traits because they are Asian (a point in the Harvard case admitted by Harvard during oral arguments).

These are facts. It is easier for some to get in to schools, TJ, college certain programs, etc., if you have a hook, and a hook can absolutely be your race. Race can also be an anchor for some.


the scapegoating of blacks and Hispanics who make up a small percentage of admits and students at both schools is racist. There are a host of factors underpinning your FCPS snowflake’s rejection and to single that one out smacks of racism.


Wrong. It’s the process getting blamed.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “news” and isn’t a troll. It’s ok for a parent to enter an anonymous forum to express frustration. I do want to know if this is a white male. I worry about increasing racism as a result of this shift in the game. You assume you are too ranked based on measurements that, some argue, put some at a disadvantage. Schools try to create a student population that more adequately represents the world on a global scale, not just a historically white male dominated educational institution.

Meh my nephew is a white male who got in to VT with good but lower stats than OP. VT def rejects high stat kids who they think won’t go to VT.


Then they should apply ED instead of playing the “let’s see how many acceptances I can get” game.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “news” and isn’t a troll. It’s ok for a parent to enter an anonymous forum to express frustration. I do want to know if this is a white male. I worry about increasing racism as a result of this shift in the game. You assume you are too ranked based on measurements that, some argue, put some at a disadvantage. Schools try to create a student population that more adequately represents the world on a global scale, not just a historically white male dominated educational institution.

Meh my nephew is a white male who got in to VT with good but lower stats than OP. VT def rejects high stat kids who they think won’t go to VT.


Then they should apply ED instead of playing the “let’s see how many acceptances I can get” game.
DP


It’s more:

1. Some can’t commit ED without knowing a financial package first

2. Some apply eD and don’t get in.

3. Some aren’t certain what school they want above all others.

4. It’s so hard now, some don’t want to waste an Ed only to possibly get rejected.

Look outside your bubble.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “news” and isn’t a troll. It’s ok for a parent to enter an anonymous forum to express frustration. I do want to know if this is a white male. I worry about increasing racism as a result of this shift in the game. You assume you are too ranked based on measurements that, some argue, put some at a disadvantage. Schools try to create a student population that more adequately represents the world on a global scale, not just a historically white male dominated educational institution.

Meh my nephew is a white male who got in to VT with good but lower stats than OP. VT def rejects high stat kids who they think won’t go to VT.


Then they should apply ED instead of playing the “let’s see how many acceptances I can get” game.
DP


It’s more:

1. Some can’t commit ED without knowing a financial package first

2. Some apply eD and don’t get in.

3. Some aren’t certain what school they want above all others.

4. It’s so hard now, some don’t want to waste an Ed only to possibly get rejected.

Look outside your bubble.


Not at all interested in the usual excuses. It’s been stated repeatedly: if you apply ED but the school doesn’t meet your financial need, you can decline so as to compare other schools/financial aid packages. If they are rejected in ED, then apply EDII or EA elsewhere. And if your kid can’t decide on one top-choice school but instead wants to play the field, that’s on them (and you). Schools don’t owe *anyone* an acceptance, period. Especially if it’s clear they are not your first choice. Blah blah blah, “it’s so hard now.” It’s hard for everyone, not just your snowflakes.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s not “news” and isn’t a troll. It’s ok for a parent to enter an anonymous forum to express frustration. I do want to know if this is a white male. I worry about increasing racism as a result of this shift in the game. You assume you are too ranked based on measurements that, some argue, put some at a disadvantage. Schools try to create a student population that more adequately represents the world on a global scale, not just a historically white male dominated educational institution.


They said the majority admitted identified as more than one race when we attended the info session. It's pretty disheartening for Caucasian kids to basically be told 'need not apply' at every.single.info session-college tour. And every college flier we receive makes it look like all of these schools are 95% URM with the students they put on the cover. I mean if someone was up there in a room full of URMs saying 'the majority of our incoming are white (with a huge smile-isn't that great!!) there would be outrage and lawsuits...oh wait...dope!


You sound ridiculous. UVA is 56% white.
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No, class of 2026 is only 47.2% white. Class of 2027, when settled, will be even lower"

Tpie chart shows that 47.3 percent of incoming students are White; 20.0 percent Asian-American; 8.1 percent Black; 7.6 percent Hispanic; 5.4 percent multi-race; 5.4 percent nonresident alient; and 5.9 percent unknown or other, which includes 0.1 percent American Indian or Alaskan Native and 0.1 percent Native ...Oct 21, 2022

The class of 2026, by the numbers - VIRGINIA Magazine

VIRGINIA Magazine
https://uvamagazine.org › articles › the_class_of_2026_b...


So in a state that is 20% African American, UVA is 8% black but the problem here is white enrollment. Ok.


I can barely visit DCUM anymore. The racism in almost every single thread is getting insane.


Same.


New poster: it’s not racism to state facts. There are Sup Ct cases on this topic: https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/10/10/supreme-court-race-unc-admission/

There are stats on this topic: https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/577722-more-than-a-third-of-white-students-lie-about-their/amp/

URMs (among others) do get a thumb on the scale when evaluating their applications. Yes, they have to be qualified but an URM, 1st Gen, applicant from a rural area, etc DO get a leg up if they have the stats. Meanwhile, Asians rank lower in personality traits because they are Asian (a point in the Harvard case admitted by Harvard during oral arguments).

These are facts. It is easier for some to get in to schools, TJ, college certain programs, etc., if you have a hook, and a hook can absolutely be your race. Race can also be an anchor for some.


A lot of Asian families have classist attitudes & don’t have their kids in real-world activities like part-time jobs.

DP.. ok, and? That's not relevant to this issue.

FWIW, I worked my way through college, and my HSer has had a job since 16.

-Asian American


It is relevant to the personality ratings issue.

so, unless they have PT jobs, they score low on "personality"? LOL.. GMAFB.... how many privileged white kids have PT jobs and "real world" activities? Do they score low in personality rating?


Regardless, there is a trend against colleges favoring students with expensive ECs like violin, cello, travel sports, pilots license, high school study abroad etc.

Pilot license, travel sports, etc.. are typical of wealthy white families, not Asian American ones.

All sorts of people take music lessons. Why do you single out "violin" and "cello"? My Asian kids don't play violin or cello. I'd love for them to, though.
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Anonymous wrote:So sorry! I hope he has other good options. What else does he have to offer aside from grades? ECs? Leadership? What is the major? If it is CS that could explain it since everyone wants CS.


This is a big part of it. Grades and class rank are not the package. No one can say if he was a strong applicant. Did he: work, take rigorous classes, have leadership and community service, how were the essays, varied and long term ECs, etc.


THIS. Only two PPs above have made this point while everyone else (only a few repeat posters, I suspect) is obsessing over GPA and nothing else. Parents on this forum often don't want to believe that their kid's ECs and essays actually might tip the scales, but it's true. So many kids have similar fantastic-sounding GPAs and test scores, but guess what? Colleges can and do still look at the rest of the application. Even for white boys from affluent 'burbs.
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Yep. My white UMC son “only” has a 4.2 weighted GPA, 4.0 unweighted. At a NOVA public. 1580 SAT. All 5s on APS. Decent ECs that show leadership, governors’ school last summer. For him I think it came down to ECs, essays and recommendations. In at UVA (EA) and William and Mary. So many kids have those same GPA and stats - the other stuff has to set them apart somehow.


Great that your son got into UVA - congratulations! But if he had a 4.0 unweighted (i.e., nothing less than an A in every course taken) but only a 4.2 weighted GPA, that means he took very few AP courses, or else his weighted GPA would be much higher. And that's surprising, because UVA wants to see highest rigor in all disciplines (i.e., LOTS of AP courses, absent some hook.
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