Republican controlled states - Limiting college students’ voting rights

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Anonymous wrote:Right, because they don’t want college students voting twice. You must have in state I.d. To prove you’re an actual resident. Students aren’t residents. No conspiracy here. No trampling on rights.

Yep. Makes perfect sense. But I just love the moronic concern trolls, always trying to fear-monger.

As I read the OP, they are just saying you can't use your college id as proof of residence. So if the student wants to vote in the new state, they go get a state id in the new state. If they want to keep their license from their previous state, they vote absentee in the previous state. This is all entirely reasonable and the way it was when I was doing this 30 years ago. I've never heard of a college id as being valid for something like voting. Perhaps I misunderstood something, but as stated in OP this is not an issue. No one seems to be saying they can't vote in new city - just that they need legal id to do so.

If I have a lease, pay utilities, and live in a city most of the year then I'm a resident and have the right vote there.

None of that is true (and it's hilarious that you think "paying utilities" has any sort of significance.

Renters are allowed to vote, dumbo.

Of course they are - if that's their permanent address. If I rent a place in DC for 2 4 weeks around election day, it doesn't entitle me to vote there. (And again, utilities are utterly irrelevant.)

How long do you need to live at an address to vote?

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Anonymous wrote:Right, because they don’t want college students voting twice. You must have in state I.d. To prove you’re an actual resident. Students aren’t residents. No conspiracy here. No trampling on rights.

Yep. Makes perfect sense. But I just love the moronic concern trolls, always trying to fear-monger.

As I read the OP, they are just saying you can't use your college id as proof of residence. So if the student wants to vote in the new state, they go get a state id in the new state. If they want to keep their license from their previous state, they vote absentee in the previous state. This is all entirely reasonable and the way it was when I was doing this 30 years ago. I've never heard of a college id as being valid for something like voting. Perhaps I misunderstood something, but as stated in OP this is not an issue. No one seems to be saying they can't vote in new city - just that they need legal id to do so.

If I have a lease, pay utilities, and live in a city most of the year then I'm a resident and have the right vote there.

You don’t pay taxes there and you’re still supported by bank of Mom & Dad, so no.

An 18 yr old who works in the state is paying taxes to that state, even if they are considered a dependent.

My kid works PT, doesn't make a lot, but they still pay taxes.

The notion that paying taxes in a state entitles you to vote there is . . . misplaced. If you're right, all the commuters who live in NJ and work in NYC can vote for the next Mayor?

Come to think of it, I belong to a partnership that requires me to file and pay personal income tax in 18 states. Can I vote in all of them? Or can I just pick which one I'd like to vote in?

NJ/NY, much like DC/MD/VA have reciprocity agreements for tax.

No one said that they can vote in two places, but that if they are living and paying taxes in the state, then they should be able to vote.

Also, your LLP is filing corporate tax, not personal income tax.


-LLC owner

You need better tax advice then. The entire point of an LLC is to get limited liability while avoiding corporate level tax.

[Anonymous]

Also you don’t need a drivers license to vote.

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I remember going door to door in the dorms at my NC college to get people to vote there.

I was registered to absentee vote back home (and got to vote in my very first election for our current President for Senate), but many kids just hadn't registered back home, for whatever reason.

Most college kids are not really going to take the time to vote in the smaller local elections (maybe some will, if they are very involved and aware, but let's be realistic here). Probably just Presidential and US Congress on the same ticket.

I thought this was great to at least get people involved and engaged in politics from the time they are 18 and eligible.

I moved every year as a young adult and moved my voter registration with me too. I actually had a "permanent address" in my dorms via our post office on campus for all 4 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Right, because they don’t want college students voting twice. You must have in state I.d. To prove you’re an actual resident. Students aren’t residents. No conspiracy here. No trampling on rights.

I lived in my college town 11 months out of the year. I was a resident, obviously.

Really? You were paying taxes there? Registering your car there? Please.

Wow, I couldn't afford a car in college, so that means I simply wasn't worthy of voting?

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Anonymous wrote:Right, because they don’t want college students voting twice. You must have in state I.d. To prove you’re an actual resident. Students aren’t residents. No conspiracy here. No trampling on rights.

Yep. Makes perfect sense. But I just love the moronic concern trolls, always trying to fear-monger.

As I read the OP, they are just saying you can't use your college id as proof of residence. So if the student wants to vote in the new state, they go get a state id in the new state. If they want to keep their license from their previous state, they vote absentee in the previous state. This is all entirely reasonable and the way it was when I was doing this 30 years ago. I've never heard of a college id as being valid for something like voting. Perhaps I misunderstood something, but as stated in OP this is not an issue. No one seems to be saying they can't vote in new city - just that they need legal id to do so.

If I have a lease, pay utilities, and live in a city most of the year then I'm a resident and have the right vote there.

You don’t pay taxes there and you’re still supported by bank of Mom & Dad, so no.

An 18 yr old who works in the state is paying taxes to that state, even if they are considered a dependent.

My kid works PT, doesn't make a lot, but they still pay taxes.

The notion that paying taxes in a state entitles you to vote there is . . . misplaced. If you're right, all the commuters who live in NJ and work in NYC can vote for the next Mayor?

Come to think of it, I belong to a partnership that requires me to file and pay personal income tax in 18 states. Can I vote in all of them? Or can I just pick which one I'd like to vote in?

NJ/NY, much like DC/MD/VA have reciprocity agreements for tax.

No one said that they can vote in two places, but that if they are living and paying taxes in the state, then they should be able to vote.

Also, your LLP is filing corporate tax, not personal income tax.


-LLC owner

You need better tax advice then. The entire point of an LLC is to get limited liability while avoiding corporate level tax.

oh my..

your liability is limited, yes, but you still have file corporate 1065 taxes. You get a schedule K to file with your personal income tax. The LLC corporate tax is zero, but you still have to file the taxes to get your schedule K.

Good gracious.

I've owned an LLC for 20 years in two different states.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Right, because they don’t want college students voting twice. You must have in state I.d. To prove you’re an actual resident. Students aren’t residents. No conspiracy here. No trampling on rights.

Yep. Makes perfect sense. But I just love the moronic concern trolls, always trying to fear-monger.

As I read the OP, they are just saying you can't use your college id as proof of residence. So if the student wants to vote in the new state, they go get a state id in the new state. If they want to keep their license from their previous state, they vote absentee in the previous state. This is all entirely reasonable and the way it was when I was doing this 30 years ago. I've never heard of a college id as being valid for something like voting. Perhaps I misunderstood something, but as stated in OP this is not an issue. No one seems to be saying they can't vote in new city - just that they need legal id to do so.

You do realize that many states/municipalities do not require voter IDs, right? This requirement was created by the GOP to limit voter access to the polls.

I've lived in 5 states + DC and have never been required to provide a voter ID.

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Anonymous wrote:Right, because they don’t want college students voting twice. You must have in state I.d. To prove you’re an actual resident. Students aren’t residents. No conspiracy here. No trampling on rights.

I lived in my college town 11 months out of the year. I was a resident, obviously.

Really? You were paying taxes there? Registering your car there? Please.

No car. I was working in the town year-round.

Were you or were you not a legal, tax-paying resident of that town, or a dependent of your parents? I think we all know the answer.

One's "dependency" status has never been a factor in determining voter eligibility.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Right, because they don’t want college students voting twice. You must have in state I.d. To prove you’re an actual resident. Students aren’t residents. No conspiracy here. No trampling on rights.

I lived in my college town 11 months out of the year. I was a resident, obviously.

Really? You were paying taxes there? Registering your car there? Please.

No car. I was working in the town year-round.

Were you or were you not a legal, tax-paying resident of that town, or a dependent of your parents? I think we all know the answer.

It really seems like the only question is which state issued one's legal id (drivers license or id card). Of course a college id shouldn't be sufficient to vote.

You are aware that many GOP-controlled states closed down DMVs in counties with a disproportionate number of residents who are POC. Right?

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Anonymous wrote:College students should vote absentee with parents’ address. That’s what my DD does for every election.

That’s what I did, but only because my Mom was an elected official in my home county and she insisted. Otherwise I would have voted in my college town where I spent the vast majority of my time.

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Anonymous wrote:Right, because they don’t want college students voting twice. You must have in state I.d. To prove you’re an actual resident. Students aren’t residents. No conspiracy here. No trampling on rights.

Yep. Makes perfect sense. But I just love the moronic concern trolls, always trying to fear-monger.

As I read the OP, they are just saying you can't use your college id as proof of residence. So if the student wants to vote in the new state, they go get a state id in the new state. If they want to keep their license from their previous state, they vote absentee in the previous state. This is all entirely reasonable and the way it was when I was doing this 30 years ago. I've never heard of a college id as being valid for something like voting. Perhaps I misunderstood something, but as stated in OP this is not an issue. No one seems to be saying they can't vote in new city - just that they need legal id to do so.

If I have a lease, pay utilities, and live in a city most of the year then I'm a resident and have the right vote there.

You don’t pay taxes there and you’re still supported by bank of Mom & Dad, so no.

An 18 yr old who works in the state is paying taxes to that state, even if they are considered a dependent.

My kid works PT, doesn't make a lot, but they still pay taxes.

The notion that paying taxes in a state entitles you to vote there is . . . misplaced. If you're right, all the commuters who live in NJ and work in NYC can vote for the next Mayor?

Come to think of it, I belong to a partnership that requires me to file and pay personal income tax in 18 states. Can I vote in all of them? Or can I just pick which one I'd like to vote in?

NJ/NY, much like DC/MD/VA have reciprocity agreements for tax.

No one said that they can vote in two places, but that if they are living and paying taxes in the state, then they should be able to vote.

Also, your LLP is filing corporate tax, not personal income tax.

-LLC owner

It's not an LLP, it's partnership. I file, and pay, income tax in 18 states.

Surely you understand that "if you live there" has a legal meaning, rather than just "I have classes so I sleep in a dorm room." If a college student can establish residency in the state where they go to school, they can and should. No issue there. But using a school ID to vote in one state while keeping a license and permanent residency isn't OK (and I think that would be self-evident).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Right, because they don’t want college students voting twice. You must have in state I.d. To prove you’re an actual resident. Students aren’t residents. No conspiracy here. No trampling on rights.

I lived in my college town 11 months out of the year. I was a resident, obviously.

Really? You were paying taxes there? Registering your car there? Please.

No car. I was working in the town year-round.

Were you or were you not a legal, tax-paying resident of that town, or a dependent of your parents? I think we all know the answer.

It really seems like the only question is which state issued one's legal id (drivers license or id card). Of course a college id shouldn't be sufficient to vote.

You are aware that many GOP-controlled states closed down DMVs in counties with a disproportionate number of residents who are POC. Right?

DC doesn't have a car and there is no DMV location in the county where they attend college. That, in effect, is a barrier for DC to procure this relatively new requirement that are nearly exclusively found in red states.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Right, because they don’t want college students voting twice. You must have in state I.d. To prove you’re an actual resident. Students aren’t residents. No conspiracy here. No trampling on rights.

Yep. Makes perfect sense. But I just love the moronic concern trolls, always trying to fear-monger.

As I read the OP, they are just saying you can't use your college id as proof of residence. So if the student wants to vote in the new state, they go get a state id in the new state. If they want to keep their license from their previous state, they vote absentee in the previous state. This is all entirely reasonable and the way it was when I was doing this 30 years ago. I've never heard of a college id as being valid for something like voting. Perhaps I misunderstood something, but as stated in OP this is not an issue. No one seems to be saying they can't vote in new city - just that they need legal id to do so.

If you live in Fairfax and go to UVA, you're still in the same state with a VA license.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Right, because they don’t want college students voting twice. You must have in state I.d. To prove you’re an actual resident. Students aren’t residents. No conspiracy here. No trampling on rights.

Yep. Makes perfect sense. But I just love the moronic concern trolls, always trying to fear-monger.

As I read the OP, they are just saying you can't use your college id as proof of residence. So if the student wants to vote in the new state, they go get a state id in the new state. If they want to keep their license from their previous state, they vote absentee in the previous state. This is all entirely reasonable and the way it was when I was doing this 30 years ago. I've never heard of a college id as being valid for something like voting. Perhaps I misunderstood something, but as stated in OP this is not an issue. No one seems to be saying they can't vote in new city - just that they need legal id to do so.

Not everywhere, no. In fact, most states accept college IDs as valid. And this will blow your mind...several states don't have ID laws at all. In fact, unless you were in only a handful of states, the idea that you needed an ID 30 years ago is highly doubtful.
https://www.campusvoteproject.org/student-id-as-voter-id

These kinds of receipts are why I love DCUM.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:College students should vote absentee with parents’ address. That’s what my DD does for every election.

I lived in my home state for 2 months in freshman year and then for 1-2 weeks over winter break. Aside, I stayed in the state where my college was located year-round because I got jobs/internships. I was way more invested in the state where my college was located. I had no idea what was happening back home when it came to local elections.

Just saying.

Then change your license.

What's that, you say? You don't have a permanent address in the state in which your college is located?

Oh.

- A democrat

Did the shift key freeze on your keyboard when you needed to capitalize Democrat?