CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There haven't been any hot spots in quite awhile - since Iran or Italy. So far very few outbreak areas. A good sign.

If this was really snowballing, we would see continuous new hot spots developing around the world but we are mostly seeing a more typical flu season like pattern.

There is a lag. 14 days of incubating and infecting others, then symptoms.

That’s why we got to get our test kit numbers up and make shift testing and hospital beds up, plus respirators, masks, gloves, disinfectants.

And people have to do their part too, minimize social interactions and number of people you’re exposed to per day. Esp new people.

The bolded is NOT TRUE. How many times do we have to tell you this?

[Anonymous]

When is testing (and therefore, I assume, the number of cases) going to pick up in the US? I've been watching https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

While yes, the total cases per day in the US has been increasing, it's been by very few each day. I'm worried there will be an explosion of cases when doctors everywhere finally have access to tests. Especially since so many people aren't taking this seriously because the "numbers" are so small.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Australia has reversed its testing policy.

It is urging anyone with a flu-like symptom to get tested. Previously, testing was advised only for those with travel to a hotspot or who had contact with a confirmed case.

The health minister is now saying the government would rather overtest than undertest. "Get yourself tested."

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/get-yourself-tested-coronavirus-health-advice-updated-for-sick-australians-20200308-p54800.html

This is what the US should do also. It's what Korea did, their case numbers are going down and their CFR is under 1%.

+1

But that would require test kits and competent leaders.

1 test ..........$250
10 tests........$2500
100 tests.......$25000
1000 rests.....$250000
10000 tests. $2500000
100000 tests ....25000000
1000000 tests.... 250 000 000
4 million tests.... 1 billon dollars

A shame we just gave billionaires tax cuts.

And aren’t we innovative enough to find a way to bring down the unit cost? Manufacturing 101.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When is testing (and therefore, I assume, the number of cases) going to pick up in the US? I've been watching https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

While yes, the total cases per day in the US has been increasing, it's been by very few each day. I'm worried there will be an explosion of cases when doctors everywhere finally have access to tests. Especially since so many people aren't taking this seriously because the "numbers" are so small.

I don’t know the answer to your question, but as you probably know the numbers will also explode at some point because the rate of spread is exponential.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Australia has reversed its testing policy.

It is urging anyone with a flu-like symptom to get tested. Previously, testing was advised only for those with travel to a hotspot or who had contact with a confirmed case.

The health minister is now saying the government would rather overtest than undertest. "Get yourself tested."

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/get-yourself-tested-coronavirus-health-advice-updated-for-sick-australians-20200308-p54800.html

This is what the US should do also. It's what Korea did, their case numbers are going down and their CFR is under 1%.

+1

But that would require test kits and competent leaders.

1 test ..........$250
10 tests........$2500
100 tests.......$25000
1000 rests.....$250000
10000 tests. $2500000
100000 tests ....25000000
1000000 tests.... 250 000 000
4 million tests.... 1 billon dollars

A shame we just gave billionaires tax cuts.

And aren’t we innovative enough to find a way to bring down the unit cost? Manufacturing 101.

A billion dollars isn’t even that much money for the federal government.

[Anonymous]

Yes, we understand you. If you only followed the news....

Anyways, I will continue to look to experts who are world leaders in pandemic management - not to DCUM posters who think they know more than any expert out there. The WHO pandemic team spent weeks in China learning everything they could. The experts are not saying to panic. In fact, they are saying the opposite. They are saying go about your life but use normal precautions like handwashing to avoid getting sick. Most people outside of DCUM are still doing that. Flights are full, people are living their lives outside of DCUM. The anxiety on here is insane.

WHO Has Admitted an Error in Its Assessment of Wuhan Coronavirus Risk

The Geneva-based UN agency said in a situation report late Sunday that the risk was "very high in China, high at the regional level and high at the global level."

In a footnote, the WHO explained that it had stated "incorrectly" in its previous reports on Thursday, Friday and Saturday that the global risk was "moderate".

The correction of the global risk assessment does not mean that an international health emergency has been declared.

The WHO on Thursday stopped short of declaring the novel coronavirus a public health emergency of international concern - a rare designation used only for the worst outbreaks that would trigger more concerted global action.

The virus, which was first identified in the city of Wuhan in China on December 31, has since infected more than 2,700 people worldwide, including a few cases identified in over a dozen other countries.

A 'sizeable' mistake

WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, who is visiting China this week to discuss ways of containing the outbreak, came under intense questioning from reporters on Thursday over his decision not to declare the emergency.

Some reporters asked whether the decision was politicised.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Australia has reversed its testing policy.

It is urging anyone with a flu-like symptom to get tested. Previously, testing was advised only for those with travel to a hotspot or who had contact with a confirmed case.

The health minister is now saying the government would rather overtest than undertest. "Get yourself tested."

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/get-yourself-tested-coronavirus-health-advice-updated-for-sick-australians-20200308-p54800.html

This is what the US should do also. It's what Korea did, their case numbers are going down and their CFR is under 1%.

+1

But that would require test kits and competent leaders.

1 test ..........$250
10 tests........$2500
100 tests.......$25000
1000 rests.....$250000
10000 tests. $2500000
100000 tests ....25000000
1000000 tests.... 250 000 000
4 million tests.... 1 billon dollars

A shame we just gave billionaires tax cuts.

And aren’t we innovative enough to find a way to bring down the unit cost? Manufacturing 101.

4 million tests would be one sixty-fourth of Bloomberg's net worth. He would help America a lot more by stepping up to fund this rather than paying for ad after ad.

[Anonymous]

https://www.sciencealert.com/who-tries-to-correct-wuhan-coronavirus-risk-level

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When is testing (and therefore, I assume, the number of cases) going to pick up in the US? I've been watching https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

While yes, the total cases per day in the US has been increasing, it's been by very few each day. I'm worried there will be an explosion of cases when doctors everywhere finally have access to tests. Especially since so many people aren't taking this seriously because the "numbers" are so small.

I don’t know the answer to your question, but as you probably know the numbers will also explode at some point because the rate of spread is exponential.

Yes. But they are currently ticking up more slowly than expected the past few days. The rate of increase has actually dropped (the total has gone up obviously), with today on track for an even lower rate of increase and/or no increase at all. The number of cases reported doesn't even seem to capture the increase we'd expect to see at this point, based on the number of cases we have (especially since no big efforts to contain have been made by any level of government).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Australia has reversed its testing policy.

It is urging anyone with a flu-like symptom to get tested. Previously, testing was advised only for those with travel to a hotspot or who had contact with a confirmed case.

The health minister is now saying the government would rather overtest than undertest. "Get yourself tested."

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/get-yourself-tested-coronavirus-health-advice-updated-for-sick-australians-20200308-p54800.html

This is what the US should do also. It's what Korea did, their case numbers are going down and their CFR is under 1%.

+1

But that would require test kits and competent leaders.

1 test ..........$250
10 tests........$2500
100 tests.......$25000
1000 rests.....$250000
10000 tests. $2500000
100000 tests ....25000000
1000000 tests.... 250 000 000
4 million tests.... 1 billon dollars

A shame we just gave billionaires tax cuts.

And aren’t we innovative enough to find a way to bring down the unit cost? Manufacturing 101.

4 million tests would be one sixty-fourth of Bloomberg's net worth. He would help America a lot more by stepping up to fund this rather than paying for ad after ad.

Maybe Trump could chip in. They could match dollar for dollar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, we understand you. If you only followed the news....

Anyways, I will continue to look to experts who are world leaders in pandemic management - not to DCUM posters who think they know more than any expert out there. The WHO pandemic team spent weeks in China learning everything they could. The experts are not saying to panic. In fact, they are saying the opposite. They are saying go about your life but use normal precautions like handwashing to avoid getting sick. Most people outside of DCUM are still doing that. Flights are full, people are living their lives outside of DCUM. The anxiety on here is insane.

WHO Has Admitted an Error in Its Assessment of Wuhan Coronavirus Risk

The Geneva-based UN agency said in a situation report late Sunday that the risk was "very high in China, high at the regional level and high at the global level."

In a footnote, the WHO explained that it had stated "incorrectly" in its previous reports on Thursday, Friday and Saturday that the global risk was "moderate".

The correction of the global risk assessment does not mean that an international health emergency has been declared.

The WHO on Thursday stopped short of declaring the novel coronavirus a public health emergency of international concern - a rare designation used only for the worst outbreaks that would trigger more concerted global action.

The virus, which was first identified in the city of Wuhan in China on December 31, has since infected more than 2,700 people worldwide, including a few cases identified in over a dozen other countries.

A 'sizeable' mistake

WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, who is visiting China this week to discuss ways of containing the outbreak, came under intense questioning from reporters on Thursday over his decision not to declare the emergency.

Some reporters asked whether the decision was politicised.

That looks like a very old article - it says 2700 cases worldwide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Australia has reversed its testing policy.

It is urging anyone with a flu-like symptom to get tested. Previously, testing was advised only for those with travel to a hotspot or who had contact with a confirmed case.

The health minister is now saying the government would rather overtest than undertest. "Get yourself tested."

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/get-yourself-tested-coronavirus-health-advice-updated-for-sick-australians-20200308-p54800.html

This is what the US should do also. It's what Korea did, their case numbers are going down and their CFR is under 1%.

+1

But that would require test kits and competent leaders.

1 test ..........$250
10 tests........$2500
100 tests.......$25000
1000 rests.....$250000
10000 tests. $2500000
100000 tests ....25000000
1000000 tests.... 250 000 000
4 million tests.... 1 billon dollars

A shame we just gave billionaires tax cuts.

And aren’t we innovative enough to find a way to bring down the unit cost? Manufacturing 101.

A billion dollars isn’t even that much money for the federal government.

So...where are the tests?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Israel considering mandatory 14 day quarantine for all entrants to the country.

https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-08-20-intl-hnk/index.html

Israel has 17 cases--this move would essentially shut down all tourism.

Actually, now 29 per CNN recent update.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.sciencealert.com/who-tries-to-correct-wuhan-coronavirus-risk-level

This is from Jan 28th. Not really relevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When is testing (and therefore, I assume, the number of cases) going to pick up in the US? I've been watching https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

While yes, the total cases per day in the US has been increasing, it's been by very few each day. I'm worried there will be an explosion of cases when doctors everywhere finally have access to tests. Especially since so many people aren't taking this seriously because the "numbers" are so small.

I don’t know the answer to your question, but as you probably know the numbers will also explode at some point because the rate of spread is exponential.

Yes. But they are currently ticking up more slowly than expected the past few days. The rate of increase has actually dropped (the total has gone up obviously), with today on track for an even lower rate of increase and/or no increase at all. The number of cases reported doesn't even seem to capture the increase we'd expect to see at this point, based on the number of cases we have (especially since no big efforts to contain have been made by any level of government).

I would have much more faith in a statement that the rate of increase has slowed if we were actually testing people.