20 victims reported at Annunciation Catholic School in Minneapolis

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JUST HOW DANGEROUS ARE FIREARMS ???
There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed. U.S. population 342,000,000 as of September 2025. Do the math: 0.000000925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant. What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:

65% of those deaths are by suicide which would never be prevented by gun laws
15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified
17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons
3% are accidental discharge deaths

So technically, "gun violence" is not 30,000 annually, but drops to just 5,100 in a very large country. Still too many? Well, how are those deaths spanned across the nation?

480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (an increase over prior years)

So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have the strictest gun laws in the country, so it is not the lack of gun control laws that is the root cause.

This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California (with strict gun and ammunition laws) had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.

Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course. It not guns causing the CA deaths. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So if all cities and states are not created equally, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths.

Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assault all is done by criminals and thinking that criminal wills obey laws is ludicrous. That's why they are criminals.

But what about other deaths each year?
40,000+ die from a drug overdose; primarily fentanyl from China
36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths
34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide)

Now it gets good:
200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors. You are safer in Chicago than when you are in a hospital!

710,000 people die per year from heart disease. It s time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So what is the point? If Obama and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.). A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides.....Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions!

So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns? It's pretty simple.:
The taking away of guns gives control to governments.
The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.

Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs.

So the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the whole body of the people are armed and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States. A military force at the command of a Congress can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power." How do you feel about the current administration running our country?

Remember, when it comes to "gun control," the important word is control," not gun."

IDGAF about all your statistics and figures and numbers or your laws or your stupid second amendment or anything else you insist protects your guns. I hate men like you and the only thing I care about is taking your guns away. Because: 1) it’ll piss you off more than anything else, 2) it will prevent you from starting a civil war, and 3) because F’ You, that’s why.

Please get the professional mental help you obviously need, PP.

OK, but given the magnitude of our problems, we should initially focus on addressing the mental health risks in people who have purchased, or will attempt to purchase, guns. But we should absolutely expand beyond that when kids in school and church don't need to worry about being shot.

DP but safety is an illusion that is used by evil people to take your freedoms.

Nobody is ever safe, not even in a jail cell under 24/7 surveillance are you safe from being harmed.

You're right! We should give those prisoners guns!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:JUST HOW DANGEROUS ARE FIREARMS ???
There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed. U.S. population 342,000,000 as of September 2025. Do the math: 0.000000925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant. What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:

65% of those deaths are by suicide which would never be prevented by gun laws
15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified
17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons
3% are accidental discharge deaths

So technically, "gun violence" is not 30,000 annually, but drops to just 5,100 in a very large country. Still too many? Well, how are those deaths spanned across the nation?

480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (an increase over prior years)

So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have the strictest gun laws in the country, so it is not the lack of gun control laws that is the root cause.

This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California (with strict gun and ammunition laws) had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.

Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course. It not guns causing the CA deaths. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So if all cities and states are not created equally, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths.

Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assault all is done by criminals and thinking that criminal wills obey laws is ludicrous. That's why they are criminals.

But what about other deaths each year?
40,000+ die from a drug overdose; primarily fentanyl from China
36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths
34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide)

Now it gets good:
200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors. You are safer in Chicago than when you are in a hospital!

710,000 people die per year from heart disease. It s time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So what is the point? If Obama and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.). A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides.....Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions!

So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns? It's pretty simple.:
The taking away of guns gives control to governments.
The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.

Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs.

So the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the whole body of the people are armed and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States. A military force at the command of a Congress can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power." How do you feel about the current administration running our country?

Remember, when it comes to "gun control," the important word is control," not gun."

If you believe these stars, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:JUST HOW DANGEROUS ARE FIREARMS ???
There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed. U.S. population 342,000,000 as of September 2025. Do the math: 0.000000925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant. What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:

65% of those deaths are by suicide which would never be prevented by gun laws
15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified
17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons
3% are accidental discharge deaths

So technically, "gun violence" is not 30,000 annually, but drops to just 5,100 in a very large country. Still too many? Well, how are those deaths spanned across the nation?

480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (an increase over prior years)

So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have the strictest gun laws in the country, so it is not the lack of gun control laws that is the root cause.

This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California (with strict gun and ammunition laws) had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.

Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course. It not guns causing the CA deaths. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So if all cities and states are not created equally, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths.

Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assault all is done by criminals and thinking that criminal wills obey laws is ludicrous. That's why they are criminals.

But what about other deaths each year?
40,000+ die from a drug overdose; primarily fentanyl from China
36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths
34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide)

Now it gets good:
200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors. You are safer in Chicago than when you are in a hospital!

710,000 people die per year from heart disease. It s time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So what is the point? If Obama and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.). A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides.....Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions!

So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns? It's pretty simple.:
The taking away of guns gives control to governments.
The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.

Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs.

So the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the whole body of the people are armed and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States. A military force at the command of a Congress can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power." How do you feel about the current administration running our country?

Remember, when it comes to "gun control," the important word is control," not gun."

If you believe these stats, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JUST HOW DANGEROUS ARE FIREARMS ???
There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed. U.S. population 342,000,000 as of September 2025. Do the math: 0.000000925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant. What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:

65% of those deaths are by suicide which would never be prevented by gun laws
15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified
17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons
3% are accidental discharge deaths

So technically, "gun violence" is not 30,000 annually, but drops to just 5,100 in a very large country. Still too many? Well, how are those deaths spanned across the nation?

480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (an increase over prior years)

So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have the strictest gun laws in the country, so it is not the lack of gun control laws that is the root cause.

This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California (with strict gun and ammunition laws) had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.

Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course. It not guns causing the CA deaths. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So if all cities and states are not created equally, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths.

Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assault all is done by criminals and thinking that criminal wills obey laws is ludicrous. That's why they are criminals.

But what about other deaths each year?
40,000+ die from a drug overdose; primarily fentanyl from China
36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths
34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide)

Now it gets good:
200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors. You are safer in Chicago than when you are in a hospital!

710,000 people die per year from heart disease. It s time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So what is the point? If Obama and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.). A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides.....Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions!

So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns? It's pretty simple.:
The taking away of guns gives control to governments.
The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.

Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs.

So the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the whole body of the people are armed and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States. A military force at the command of a Congress can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power." How do you feel about the current administration running our country?

Remember, when it comes to "gun control," the important word is control," not gun."

IDGAF about all your statistics and figures and numbers or your laws or your stupid second amendment or anything else you insist protects your guns. I hate men like you and the only thing I care about is taking your guns away. Because: 1) it’ll piss you off more than anything else, 2) it will prevent you from starting a civil war, and 3) because F’ You, that’s why.

Please get the professional mental help you obviously need, PP.

OK, but given the magnitude of our problems, we should initially focus on addressing the mental health risks in people who have purchased, or will attempt to purchase, guns. But we should absolutely expand beyond that when kids in school and church don't need to worry about being shot.

DP but safety is an illusion that is used by evil people to take your freedoms.

Nobody is ever safe, not even in a jail cell under 24/7 surveillance are you safe from being harmed.

You're right! We should give those prisoners guns!

I wouldn't object. They might do more good that way than wasting taxpayers money on imprisoning them.

[Anonymous]

May her memory be a blessing.

Celebration of life set for Harper Moyski, girl killed in Annunciation Church shooting

https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/celebration-of-life-set-for-harper-moyski-victim-killed-in-annunciation-church-shooting/

A celebration of life is now scheduled for 10-year-old Harper Moyski, one of two children killed in the Aug. 27 mass shooting at Annunciation Church in Minneapolis.

Harper’s family will host a celebration of life starting at noon Sunday, Sept. 14., at the Lake Harriet Bandshell in Minneapolis.

In an obituary shared on Saturday, Harper is described by her loved ones as a bold and inquisitive person who “cared deeply about animals, people, and the planet.”

[Anonymous]

I can't believe PP said gun laws would not prevent gun related suicide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JUST HOW DANGEROUS ARE FIREARMS ???
There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed. U.S. population 342,000,000 as of September 2025. Do the math: 0.000000925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant. What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:

65% of those deaths are by suicide which would never be prevented by gun laws
15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified
17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons
3% are accidental discharge deaths

So technically, "gun violence" is not 30,000 annually, but drops to just 5,100 in a very large country. Still too many? Well, how are those deaths spanned across the nation?

480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (an increase over prior years)

So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have the strictest gun laws in the country, so it is not the lack of gun control laws that is the root cause.

This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California (with strict gun and ammunition laws) had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.

Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course. It not guns causing the CA deaths. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So if all cities and states are not created equally, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths.

Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assault all is done by criminals and thinking that criminal wills obey laws is ludicrous. That's why they are criminals.

But what about other deaths each year?
40,000+ die from a drug overdose; primarily fentanyl from China
36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths
34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide)

Now it gets good:
200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors. You are safer in Chicago than when you are in a hospital!

710,000 people die per year from heart disease. It s time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So what is the point? If Obama and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.). A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides.....Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions!

So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns? It's pretty simple.:
The taking away of guns gives control to governments.
The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.

Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs.

So the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the whole body of the people are armed and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States. A military force at the command of a Congress can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power." How do you feel about the current administration running our country?

Remember, when it comes to "gun control," the important word is control," not gun."

If you believe these stats, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

+1 completely wrong stats.

[Anonymous]

We have had 100 school shootings this year. Guns are the leading cause of death for children. It’s a public health issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have had 100 school shootings this year. Guns are the leading cause of death for children. It’s a public health issue.

Yeah, but apparently come kids dying isn't enough to offset the small-dick complex of the gun nuts.

[Anonymous]

Almost always weird white loner types with mental health issues. .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have had 100 school shootings this year. Guns are the leading cause of death for children. It’s a public health issue.

Wrong.

It is statistically insignificant.

JUST HOW DANGEROUS ARE FIREARMS ???
There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed. U.S. population 342,000,000 as of September 2025. Do the math: 0.000000925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant. What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:

65% of those deaths are by suicide which would never be prevented by gun laws
15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified
17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons
3% are accidental discharge deaths

So technically, "gun violence" is not 30,000 annually, but drops to just 5,100 in a very large country. Still too many? Well, how are those deaths spanned across the nation?

480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (an increase over prior years)

So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have the strictest gun laws in the country, so it is not the lack of gun control laws that is the root cause.

This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California (with strict gun and ammunition laws) had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.

Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course. But it is not guns causing the CA deaths. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in California and those cities where the vast majority of the crime takes place. So if California, along with all the cities and states are not created equally, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths. Or someone: repeat-offender criminals who ought to be in prison.

Are 5,100 deaths by criminals per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a violent crime (usually by a repeat offender) but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assault all is done by criminals (again: repeat offenders) and thinking that criminal will someday magically obey laws, is ludicrous.

But what about other deaths each year?
40,000+ die from a drug overdose; primarily fentanyl smuggled in from China
36,000 people die per year from influenza and many from Covid, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths
34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities, which could be prevented (exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide)

Now it gets to the meaningful point here:

200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors. You are safer in Chicago than when you are in a hospital!

710,000 people die per year from heart disease. It s time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So what is the point? If Obama and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.). A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides.....Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions!

So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns? It's pretty simple.:
The taking away of guns gives control to governments (in this case, the Trump administration. Comfortable with that?).
The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.

Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs.

So the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the whole body of the people are armed and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States. A military force at the command of a Congress can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power." How do you feel about the current administration running our country?

Remember, when it comes to "gun control," the important word is control," not gun."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have had 100 school shootings this year. Guns are the leading cause of death for children. It’s a public health issue.

Wrong.

It is statistically insignificant.

JUST HOW DANGEROUS ARE FIREARMS ???
There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed. U.S. population 342,000,000 as of September 2025. Do the math: 0.000000925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant. What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:

65% of those deaths are by suicide which would never be prevented by gun laws
15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified
17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons
3% are accidental discharge deaths

So technically, "gun violence" is not 30,000 annually, but drops to just 5,100 in a very large country. Still too many? Well, how are those deaths spanned across the nation?

480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (an increase over prior years)

So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have the strictest gun laws in the country, so it is not the lack of gun control laws that is the root cause.

This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California (with strict gun and ammunition laws) had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.

Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course. But it is not guns causing the CA deaths. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in California and those cities where the vast majority of the crime takes place. So if California, along with all the cities and states are not created equally, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths. Or someone: repeat-offender criminals who ought to be in prison.

Are 5,100 deaths by criminals per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a violent crime (usually by a repeat offender) but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assault all is done by criminals (again: repeat offenders) and thinking that criminal will someday magically obey laws, is ludicrous.

But what about other deaths each year?
40,000+ die from a drug overdose; primarily fentanyl smuggled in from China
36,000 people die per year from influenza and many from Covid, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths
34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities, which could be prevented (exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide)

Now it gets to the meaningful point here:

200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors. You are safer in Chicago than when you are in a hospital!

710,000 people die per year from heart disease. It s time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So what is the point? If Obama and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.). A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides.....Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions!

So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns? It's pretty simple.:
The taking away of guns gives control to governments (in this case, the Trump administration. Comfortable with that?).
The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.

Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs.

So the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the whole body of the people are armed and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States. A military force at the command of a Congress can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power." How do you feel about the current administration running our country?

Remember, when it comes to "gun control," the important word is control," not gun."

Bingo. Gun control has always been about disarming certain minorities to further subjugate or eliminate them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have had 100 school shootings this year. Guns are the leading cause of death for children. It’s a public health issue.

Wrong.

It is statistically insignificant.

JUST HOW DANGEROUS ARE FIREARMS ???
There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed. U.S. population 342,000,000 as of September 2025. Do the math: 0.000000925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant. What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:

65% of those deaths are by suicide which would never be prevented by gun laws
15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified
17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons
3% are accidental discharge deaths

So technically, "gun violence" is not 30,000 annually, but drops to just 5,100 in a very large country. Still too many? Well, how are those deaths spanned across the nation?

480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (an increase over prior years)

So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have the strictest gun laws in the country, so it is not the lack of gun control laws that is the root cause.

This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California (with strict gun and ammunition laws) had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.

Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course. But it is not guns causing the CA deaths. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in California and those cities where the vast majority of the crime takes place. So if California, along with all the cities and states are not created equally, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths. Or someone: repeat-offender criminals who ought to be in prison.

Are 5,100 deaths by criminals per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a violent crime (usually by a repeat offender) but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assault all is done by criminals (again: repeat offenders) and thinking that criminal will someday magically obey laws, is ludicrous.

But what about other deaths each year?
40,000+ die from a drug overdose; primarily fentanyl smuggled in from China
36,000 people die per year from influenza and many from Covid, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths
34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities, which could be prevented (exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide)

Now it gets to the meaningful point here:

200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors. You are safer in Chicago than when you are in a hospital!

710,000 people die per year from heart disease. It s time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So what is the point? If Obama and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.). A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides.....Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions!

So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns? It's pretty simple.:
The taking away of guns gives control to governments (in this case, the Trump administration. Comfortable with that?).
The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.

Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs.

So the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the whole body of the people are armed and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States. A military force at the command of a Congress can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power." How do you feel about the current administration running our country?

Remember, when it comes to "gun control," the important word is control," not gun."

Bingo. Gun control has always been about disarming certain minorities to further subjugate or eliminate them.

Dictators do not allow their subjects to have guns.

2nd amendment is gone 2028 maybe before

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have had 100 school shootings this year. Guns are the leading cause of death for children. It’s a public health issue.

Wrong.

It is statistically insignificant.

JUST HOW DANGEROUS ARE FIREARMS ???
There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed. U.S. population 342,000,000 as of September 2025. Do the math: 0.000000925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant. What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:

65% of those deaths are by suicide which would never be prevented by gun laws
15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified
17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons
3% are accidental discharge deaths

So technically, "gun violence" is not 30,000 annually, but drops to just 5,100 in a very large country. Still too many? Well, how are those deaths spanned across the nation?

480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (an increase over prior years)

So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have the strictest gun laws in the country, so it is not the lack of gun control laws that is the root cause.

This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California (with strict gun and ammunition laws) had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.

Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course. But it is not guns causing the CA deaths. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in California and those cities where the vast majority of the crime takes place. So if California, along with all the cities and states are not created equally, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths. Or someone: repeat-offender criminals who ought to be in prison.

Are 5,100 deaths by criminals per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a violent crime (usually by a repeat offender) but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assault all is done by criminals (again: repeat offenders) and thinking that criminal will someday magically obey laws, is ludicrous.

But what about other deaths each year?
40,000+ die from a drug overdose; primarily fentanyl smuggled in from China
36,000 people die per year from influenza and many from Covid, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths
34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities, which could be prevented (exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide)

Now it gets to the meaningful point here:

200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors. You are safer in Chicago than when you are in a hospital!

710,000 people die per year from heart disease. It s time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So what is the point? If Obama and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.). A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides.....Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions!

So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns? It's pretty simple.:
The taking away of guns gives control to governments (in this case, the Trump administration. Comfortable with that?).
The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.

Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs.

So the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the whole body of the people are armed and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States. A military force at the command of a Congress can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power." How do you feel about the current administration running our country?

Remember, when it comes to "gun control," the important word is control," not gun."

Bingo. Gun control has always been about disarming certain minorities to further subjugate or eliminate them.

Dictators do not allow their subjects to have guns.

2nd amendment is gone 2028 maybe before

800-900 million firearms in the USA, that's around 4 times more than the entire rest of the world combined. They are going nowhere.