VDOE is banning phones bell-to-bell

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher.

None of your kids need their phones on them in class. Not one. They stay in the pouch and the class environment is 10x better than it’s been in years. They’re talking to each other, completing their work, engaging in the lesson. If they finish work early, they pull out their book and read or talk to one another, or finish work for another class instead of scrolling.

It doesn’t matter if you think YOUR kid will never touch theirs or will only do when they finish their work. Most don’t do that. The constant “put your phone away, put your phone away” reminders are gone so the lesson is less interrupted. They’re not rushing their work to sit and scroll. They’re not bombarded with 200 notifications from their group chats and snap while they try to focus. They’re not texting you about whatever nonsense you think just can’t wait until the end of the day. EVERYONE is better off when they’re required to be in that pouch.

Another HS teacher. While this is true, the pouches will never work because such a large percentage will put something else in pouch (an old phone, a fake phone, an empty phone case). The pouches are wasting tax dollars. It will be the same as it is now when we collect phones. I wish you would all keep them at home. That is the only true way to prevent them from being used in class.

Other districts are using the pouches with success and with no reports of significant numbers of dummy phones in the pouches. This may be an issue with some schools/students but does that mean that no schools should try it?

I’m not willing to spend my tax dollars on that experiment. You are free to give schools a hefty donation so they can “try it.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher.

None of your kids need their phones on them in class. Not one. They stay in the pouch and the class environment is 10x better than it’s been in years. They’re talking to each other, completing their work, engaging in the lesson. If they finish work early, they pull out their book and read or talk to one another, or finish work for another class instead of scrolling.

It doesn’t matter if you think YOUR kid will never touch theirs or will only do when they finish their work. Most don’t do that. The constant “put your phone away, put your phone away” reminders are gone so the lesson is less interrupted. They’re not rushing their work to sit and scroll. They’re not bombarded with 200 notifications from their group chats and snap while they try to focus. They’re not texting you about whatever nonsense you think just can’t wait until the end of the day. EVERYONE is better off when they’re required to be in that pouch.

Another HS teacher. While this is true, the pouches will never work because such a large percentage will put something else in pouch (an old phone, a fake phone, an empty phone case). The pouches are wasting tax dollars. It will be the same as it is now when we collect phones. I wish you would all keep them at home. That is the only true way to prevent them from being used in class.

A large percentage also put their actual phone in the pouch; and of the "large percentage" gaming the system....how many of them are you seeing out and collecting during classes? Experience is showing that it is NOT the same with pouches as it was without them. There are legitimate reasons for students to take their phones to school, even if they aren't needed to be used during class or even during the school day. Sometimes my kid texts me after school to let me know they're staying to work on something instead of coming home. Sometimes there's a message they need to see before they get on the bus to come home. Some students walk or drive and parents want them to have phones for safety/emergency purposes.

If you want every student to keep their phone at home, I expect you to do the same.

That actually sounds lovely, I would love to break my addition and maybe I’d be sleeping instead of on here right now.

But the school have these rules. Look, I don’t care if kids have their phones. If they are an issue, keep them at home. The main reason I wish they would is because these new procedures keep giving us more to manage in the classroom. It was easier before when each of us was left to our own classroom management. I don’t care if your kid needs to check a quick text from you. I really don’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher.

None of your kids need their phones on them in class. Not one. They stay in the pouch and the class environment is 10x better than it’s been in years. They’re talking to each other, completing their work, engaging in the lesson. If they finish work early, they pull out their book and read or talk to one another, or finish work for another class instead of scrolling.

It doesn’t matter if you think YOUR kid will never touch theirs or will only do when they finish their work. Most don’t do that. The constant “put your phone away, put your phone away” reminders are gone so the lesson is less interrupted. They’re not rushing their work to sit and scroll. They’re not bombarded with 200 notifications from their group chats and snap while they try to focus. They’re not texting you about whatever nonsense you think just can’t wait until the end of the day. EVERYONE is better off when they’re required to be in that pouch.

Another HS teacher. While this is true, the pouches will never work because such a large percentage will put something else in pouch (an old phone, a fake phone, an empty phone case). The pouches are wasting tax dollars. It will be the same as it is now when we collect phones. I wish you would all keep them at home. That is the only true way to prevent them from being used in class.

Other districts are using the pouches with success and with no reports of significant numbers of dummy phones in the pouches. This may be an issue with some schools/students but does that mean that no schools should try it?

I’m not willing to spend my tax dollars on that experiment. You are free to give schools a hefty donation so they can “try it.”

A) You don’t get to decide how schools spend money
B) your personal tax contribution amounts to a few pennies of the overall budget
C) the hanging classroom pouches we are discussing cost like $10 each on Amazon. $10 per classroom to help children have better academic experiences and outcomes. There’s honestly not a better ROI on ANY other education spending aside from perhaps hiring more staff to reduce class sizes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher.

None of your kids need their phones on them in class. Not one. They stay in the pouch and the class environment is 10x better than it’s been in years. They’re talking to each other, completing their work, engaging in the lesson. If they finish work early, they pull out their book and read or talk to one another, or finish work for another class instead of scrolling.

It doesn’t matter if you think YOUR kid will never touch theirs or will only do when they finish their work. Most don’t do that. The constant “put your phone away, put your phone away” reminders are gone so the lesson is less interrupted. They’re not rushing their work to sit and scroll. They’re not bombarded with 200 notifications from their group chats and snap while they try to focus. They’re not texting you about whatever nonsense you think just can’t wait until the end of the day. EVERYONE is better off when they’re required to be in that pouch.

Another HS teacher. While this is true, the pouches will never work because such a large percentage will put something else in pouch (an old phone, a fake phone, an empty phone case). The pouches are wasting tax dollars. It will be the same as it is now when we collect phones. I wish you would all keep them at home. That is the only true way to prevent them from being used in class.

Other districts are using the pouches with success and with no reports of significant numbers of dummy phones in the pouches. This may be an issue with some schools/students but does that mean that no schools should try it?

I’m not willing to spend my tax dollars on that experiment. You are free to give schools a hefty donation so they can “try it.”

Hahaha. What do you think the entire educational budget is — other than “let’s try it?” I mean, how about Lucy Caulkins? Remember, we will teach them how to read better? Let’s try it! Failed. How about 1:1 educational devices…. For kindergarteners?!?? Let’s try it! Failed. I mean, the list goes on and on. 99% of what a school does is: let’s try it. They “tried” allowing cell phones in school. Now we have depression, anxiety, bullying, distraction. Success?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher.

None of your kids need their phones on them in class. Not one. They stay in the pouch and the class environment is 10x better than it’s been in years. They’re talking to each other, completing their work, engaging in the lesson. If they finish work early, they pull out their book and read or talk to one another, or finish work for another class instead of scrolling.

It doesn’t matter if you think YOUR kid will never touch theirs or will only do when they finish their work. Most don’t do that. The constant “put your phone away, put your phone away” reminders are gone so the lesson is less interrupted. They’re not rushing their work to sit and scroll. They’re not bombarded with 200 notifications from their group chats and snap while they try to focus. They’re not texting you about whatever nonsense you think just can’t wait until the end of the day. EVERYONE is better off when they’re required to be in that pouch.

Another HS teacher. While this is true, the pouches will never work because such a large percentage will put something else in pouch (an old phone, a fake phone, an empty phone case). The pouches are wasting tax dollars. It will be the same as it is now when we collect phones. I wish you would all keep them at home. That is the only true way to prevent them from being used in class.

Other districts are using the pouches with success and with no reports of significant numbers of dummy phones in the pouches. This may be an issue with some schools/students but does that mean that no schools should try it?

I’m not willing to spend my tax dollars on that experiment. You are free to give schools a hefty donation so they can “try it.”

Hahaha. What do you think the entire educational budget is — other than “let’s try it?” I mean, how about Lucy Caulkins? Remember, we will teach them how to read better? Let’s try it! Failed. How about 1:1 educational devices…. For kindergarteners?!?? Let’s try it! Failed. I mean, the list goes on and on. 99% of what a school does is: let’s try it. They “tried” allowing cell phones in school. Now we have depression, anxiety, bullying, distraction. Success?

this is exactly why we shouldnt dive into another experiment that is an expensive waste of time and will fail. I'm looking at you, phone pouches.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher.

None of your kids need their phones on them in class. Not one. They stay in the pouch and the class environment is 10x better than it’s been in years. They’re talking to each other, completing their work, engaging in the lesson. If they finish work early, they pull out their book and read or talk to one another, or finish work for another class instead of scrolling.

It doesn’t matter if you think YOUR kid will never touch theirs or will only do when they finish their work. Most don’t do that. The constant “put your phone away, put your phone away” reminders are gone so the lesson is less interrupted. They’re not rushing their work to sit and scroll. They’re not bombarded with 200 notifications from their group chats and snap while they try to focus. They’re not texting you about whatever nonsense you think just can’t wait until the end of the day. EVERYONE is better off when they’re required to be in that pouch.

Another HS teacher. While this is true, the pouches will never work because such a large percentage will put something else in pouch (an old phone, a fake phone, an empty phone case). The pouches are wasting tax dollars. It will be the same as it is now when we collect phones. I wish you would all keep them at home. That is the only true way to prevent them from being used in class.

Other districts are using the pouches with success and with no reports of significant numbers of dummy phones in the pouches. This may be an issue with some schools/students but does that mean that no schools should try it?

I’m not willing to spend my tax dollars on that experiment. You are free to give schools a hefty donation so they can “try it.”

Hahaha. What do you think the entire educational budget is — other than “let’s try it?” I mean, how about Lucy Caulkins? Remember, we will teach them how to read better? Let’s try it! Failed. How about 1:1 educational devices…. For kindergarteners?!?? Let’s try it! Failed. I mean, the list goes on and on. 99% of what a school does is: let’s try it. They “tried” allowing cell phones in school. Now we have depression, anxiety, bullying, distraction. Success?

this is exactly why we shouldnt dive into another experiment that is an expensive waste of time and will fail. I'm looking at you, phone pouches.

Yeah, phone pouches are putting a dent in the budget

Remember that virtual school failure because I am pretty sure that really did put a huge dent in the budget but nobody argued against that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher.

None of your kids need their phones on them in class. Not one. They stay in the pouch and the class environment is 10x better than it’s been in years. They’re talking to each other, completing their work, engaging in the lesson. If they finish work early, they pull out their book and read or talk to one another, or finish work for another class instead of scrolling.

It doesn’t matter if you think YOUR kid will never touch theirs or will only do when they finish their work. Most don’t do that. The constant “put your phone away, put your phone away” reminders are gone so the lesson is less interrupted. They’re not rushing their work to sit and scroll. They’re not bombarded with 200 notifications from their group chats and snap while they try to focus. They’re not texting you about whatever nonsense you think just can’t wait until the end of the day. EVERYONE is better off when they’re required to be in that pouch.

Another HS teacher. While this is true, the pouches will never work because such a large percentage will put something else in pouch (an old phone, a fake phone, an empty phone case). The pouches are wasting tax dollars. It will be the same as it is now when we collect phones. I wish you would all keep them at home. That is the only true way to prevent them from being used in class.

Other districts are using the pouches with success and with no reports of significant numbers of dummy phones in the pouches. This may be an issue with some schools/students but does that mean that no schools should try it?

I’m not willing to spend my tax dollars on that experiment. You are free to give schools a hefty donation so they can “try it.”

Hahaha. What do you think the entire educational budget is — other than “let’s try it?” I mean, how about Lucy Caulkins? Remember, we will teach them how to read better? Let’s try it! Failed. How about 1:1 educational devices…. For kindergarteners?!?? Let’s try it! Failed. I mean, the list goes on and on. 99% of what a school does is: let’s try it. They “tried” allowing cell phones in school. Now we have depression, anxiety, bullying, distraction. Success?

this is exactly why we shouldnt dive into another experiment that is an expensive waste of time and will fail. I'm looking at you, phone pouches.

Yeah, phone pouches are putting a dent in the budget

Remember that virtual school failure because I am pretty sure that really did put a huge dent in the budget but nobody argued against that.

What do you mean nobody argued against that? The fact that you are still triggered by virtual school makes me certain you're one of the people who did.
And yes I well recall the APEs who screamed let's not spend any money on the poor immunocompromised kids who need virtual because they might die if they got Covid because it takes money away from our healthy kids who want in person school!! That was sooooo gross.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher.

None of your kids need their phones on them in class. Not one. They stay in the pouch and the class environment is 10x better than it’s been in years. They’re talking to each other, completing their work, engaging in the lesson. If they finish work early, they pull out their book and read or talk to one another, or finish work for another class instead of scrolling.

It doesn’t matter if you think YOUR kid will never touch theirs or will only do when they finish their work. Most don’t do that. The constant “put your phone away, put your phone away” reminders are gone so the lesson is less interrupted. They’re not rushing their work to sit and scroll. They’re not bombarded with 200 notifications from their group chats and snap while they try to focus. They’re not texting you about whatever nonsense you think just can’t wait until the end of the day. EVERYONE is better off when they’re required to be in that pouch.

Another HS teacher. While this is true, the pouches will never work because such a large percentage will put something else in pouch (an old phone, a fake phone, an empty phone case). The pouches are wasting tax dollars. It will be the same as it is now when we collect phones. I wish you would all keep them at home. That is the only true way to prevent them from being used in class.

Other districts are using the pouches with success and with no reports of significant numbers of dummy phones in the pouches. This may be an issue with some schools/students but does that mean that no schools should try it?

I’m not willing to spend my tax dollars on that experiment. You are free to give schools a hefty donation so they can “try it.”

Hahaha. What do you think the entire educational budget is — other than “let’s try it?” I mean, how about Lucy Caulkins? Remember, we will teach them how to read better? Let’s try it! Failed. How about 1:1 educational devices…. For kindergarteners?!?? Let’s try it! Failed. I mean, the list goes on and on. 99% of what a school does is: let’s try it. They “tried” allowing cell phones in school. Now we have depression, anxiety, bullying, distraction. Success?

this is exactly why we shouldnt dive into another experiment that is an expensive waste of time and will fail. I'm looking at you, phone pouches.

Yeah, phone pouches are putting a dent in the budget

Remember that virtual school failure because I am pretty sure that really did put a huge dent in the budget but nobody argued against that.

What do you mean nobody argued against that? The fact that you are still triggered by virtual school makes me certain you're one of the people who did.
And yes I well recall the APEs who screamed let's not spend any money on the poor immunocompromised kids who need virtual because they might die if they got Covid because it takes money away from our healthy kids who want in person school!! That was sooooo gross.

Virtual APS was a failure and unnecessary because it basically did a worse job than VVA. It wasn't about sick kids not going to school in person or not. It was about wasting federal (??) funds to replicate an existing program and then admitting failure and shutting it down after a couple of years

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher.

None of your kids need their phones on them in class. Not one. They stay in the pouch and the class environment is 10x better than it’s been in years. They’re talking to each other, completing their work, engaging in the lesson. If they finish work early, they pull out their book and read or talk to one another, or finish work for another class instead of scrolling.

It doesn’t matter if you think YOUR kid will never touch theirs or will only do when they finish their work. Most don’t do that. The constant “put your phone away, put your phone away” reminders are gone so the lesson is less interrupted. They’re not rushing their work to sit and scroll. They’re not bombarded with 200 notifications from their group chats and snap while they try to focus. They’re not texting you about whatever nonsense you think just can’t wait until the end of the day. EVERYONE is better off when they’re required to be in that pouch.

Another HS teacher. While this is true, the pouches will never work because such a large percentage will put something else in pouch (an old phone, a fake phone, an empty phone case). The pouches are wasting tax dollars. It will be the same as it is now when we collect phones. I wish you would all keep them at home. That is the only true way to prevent them from being used in class.

Other districts are using the pouches with success and with no reports of significant numbers of dummy phones in the pouches. This may be an issue with some schools/students but does that mean that no schools should try it?

I’m not willing to spend my tax dollars on that experiment. You are free to give schools a hefty donation so they can “try it.”

Hahaha. What do you think the entire educational budget is — other than “let’s try it?” I mean, how about Lucy Caulkins? Remember, we will teach them how to read better? Let’s try it! Failed. How about 1:1 educational devices…. For kindergarteners?!?? Let’s try it! Failed. I mean, the list goes on and on. 99% of what a school does is: let’s try it. They “tried” allowing cell phones in school. Now we have depression, anxiety, bullying, distraction. Success?

this is exactly why we shouldnt dive into another experiment that is an expensive waste of time and will fail. I'm looking at you, phone pouches.

Yeah, phone pouches are putting a dent in the budget

Remember that virtual school failure because I am pretty sure that really did put a huge dent in the budget but nobody argued against that.

What do you mean nobody argued against that? The fact that you are still triggered by virtual school makes me certain you're one of the people who did.
And yes I well recall the APEs who screamed let's not spend any money on the poor immunocompromised kids who need virtual because they might die if they got Covid because it takes money away from our healthy kids who want in person school!! That was sooooo gross.

Virtual APS was a failure and unnecessary because it basically did a worse job than VVA. It wasn't about sick kids not going to school in person or not. It was about wasting federal (??) funds to replicate an existing program and then admitting failure and shutting it down after a couple of years

You Arlington people are so myopic. Every school district had some sort of virtual school during the pandemic. Arlington isn't unique. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher.

None of your kids need their phones on them in class. Not one. They stay in the pouch and the class environment is 10x better than it’s been in years. They’re talking to each other, completing their work, engaging in the lesson. If they finish work early, they pull out their book and read or talk to one another, or finish work for another class instead of scrolling.

It doesn’t matter if you think YOUR kid will never touch theirs or will only do when they finish their work. Most don’t do that. The constant “put your phone away, put your phone away” reminders are gone so the lesson is less interrupted. They’re not rushing their work to sit and scroll. They’re not bombarded with 200 notifications from their group chats and snap while they try to focus. They’re not texting you about whatever nonsense you think just can’t wait until the end of the day. EVERYONE is better off when they’re required to be in that pouch.

Another HS teacher. While this is true, the pouches will never work because such a large percentage will put something else in pouch (an old phone, a fake phone, an empty phone case). The pouches are wasting tax dollars. It will be the same as it is now when we collect phones. I wish you would all keep them at home. That is the only true way to prevent them from being used in class.

Other districts are using the pouches with success and with no reports of significant numbers of dummy phones in the pouches. This may be an issue with some schools/students but does that mean that no schools should try it?

I’m not willing to spend my tax dollars on that experiment. You are free to give schools a hefty donation so they can “try it.”

Hahaha. What do you think the entire educational budget is — other than “let’s try it?” I mean, how about Lucy Caulkins? Remember, we will teach them how to read better? Let’s try it! Failed. How about 1:1 educational devices…. For kindergarteners?!?? Let’s try it! Failed. I mean, the list goes on and on. 99% of what a school does is: let’s try it. They “tried” allowing cell phones in school. Now we have depression, anxiety, bullying, distraction. Success?

Right. Those didn’t exist before.

Your kids are young. Stop trying to force things in MS/HS that you don’t understand.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher.

None of your kids need their phones on them in class. Not one. They stay in the pouch and the class environment is 10x better than it’s been in years. They’re talking to each other, completing their work, engaging in the lesson. If they finish work early, they pull out their book and read or talk to one another, or finish work for another class instead of scrolling.

It doesn’t matter if you think YOUR kid will never touch theirs or will only do when they finish their work. Most don’t do that. The constant “put your phone away, put your phone away” reminders are gone so the lesson is less interrupted. They’re not rushing their work to sit and scroll. They’re not bombarded with 200 notifications from their group chats and snap while they try to focus. They’re not texting you about whatever nonsense you think just can’t wait until the end of the day. EVERYONE is better off when they’re required to be in that pouch.

Another HS teacher. While this is true, the pouches will never work because such a large percentage will put something else in pouch (an old phone, a fake phone, an empty phone case). The pouches are wasting tax dollars. It will be the same as it is now when we collect phones. I wish you would all keep them at home. That is the only true way to prevent them from being used in class.

Other districts are using the pouches with success and with no reports of significant numbers of dummy phones in the pouches. This may be an issue with some schools/students but does that mean that no schools should try it?

I’m not willing to spend my tax dollars on that experiment. You are free to give schools a hefty donation so they can “try it.”

Hahaha. What do you think the entire educational budget is — other than “let’s try it?” I mean, how about Lucy Caulkins? Remember, we will teach them how to read better? Let’s try it! Failed. How about 1:1 educational devices…. For kindergarteners?!?? Let’s try it! Failed. I mean, the list goes on and on. 99% of what a school does is: let’s try it. They “tried” allowing cell phones in school. Now we have depression, anxiety, bullying, distraction. Success?

this is exactly why we shouldnt dive into another experiment that is an expensive waste of time and will fail. I'm looking at you, phone pouches.

Yeah, phone pouches are putting a dent in the budget

Remember that virtual school failure because I am pretty sure that really did put a huge dent in the budget but nobody argued against that.

What do you mean nobody argued against that? The fact that you are still triggered by virtual school makes me certain you're one of the people who did.
And yes I well recall the APEs who screamed let's not spend any money on the poor immunocompromised kids who need virtual because they might die if they got Covid because it takes money away from our healthy kids who want in person school!! That was sooooo gross.

Virtual APS was a failure and unnecessary because it basically did a worse job than VVA. It wasn't about sick kids not going to school in person or not. It was about wasting federal (??) funds to replicate an existing program and then admitting failure and shutting it down after a couple of years

Ok. And?

Why are you still triggered by that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher.

None of your kids need their phones on them in class. Not one. They stay in the pouch and the class environment is 10x better than it’s been in years. They’re talking to each other, completing their work, engaging in the lesson. If they finish work early, they pull out their book and read or talk to one another, or finish work for another class instead of scrolling.

It doesn’t matter if you think YOUR kid will never touch theirs or will only do when they finish their work. Most don’t do that. The constant “put your phone away, put your phone away” reminders are gone so the lesson is less interrupted. They’re not rushing their work to sit and scroll. They’re not bombarded with 200 notifications from their group chats and snap while they try to focus. They’re not texting you about whatever nonsense you think just can’t wait until the end of the day. EVERYONE is better off when they’re required to be in that pouch.

Another HS teacher. While this is true, the pouches will never work because such a large percentage will put something else in pouch (an old phone, a fake phone, an empty phone case). The pouches are wasting tax dollars. It will be the same as it is now when we collect phones. I wish you would all keep them at home. That is the only true way to prevent them from being used in class.

Other districts are using the pouches with success and with no reports of significant numbers of dummy phones in the pouches. This may be an issue with some schools/students but does that mean that no schools should try it?

I’m not willing to spend my tax dollars on that experiment. You are free to give schools a hefty donation so they can “try it.”

Hahaha. What do you think the entire educational budget is — other than “let’s try it?” I mean, how about Lucy Caulkins? Remember, we will teach them how to read better? Let’s try it! Failed. How about 1:1 educational devices…. For kindergarteners?!?? Let’s try it! Failed. I mean, the list goes on and on. 99% of what a school does is: let’s try it. They “tried” allowing cell phones in school. Now we have depression, anxiety, bullying, distraction. Success?

this is exactly why we shouldnt dive into another experiment that is an expensive waste of time and will fail. I'm looking at you, phone pouches.

Yeah, phone pouches are putting a dent in the budget

Remember that virtual school failure because I am pretty sure that really did put a huge dent in the budget but nobody argued against that.

What do you mean nobody argued against that? The fact that you are still triggered by virtual school makes me certain you're one of the people who did.
And yes I well recall the APEs who screamed let's not spend any money on the poor immunocompromised kids who need virtual because they might die if they got Covid because it takes money away from our healthy kids who want in person school!! That was sooooo gross.

Virtual APS was a failure and unnecessary because it basically did a worse job than VVA. It wasn't about sick kids not going to school in person or not. It was about wasting federal (??) funds to replicate an existing program and then admitting failure and shutting it down after a couple of years

Ok. And?

Why are you still triggered by that?

Just stating a fact. You're the simpleton who's triggered. Why is everything about APE and not about your ignorance? Schools exist to promote learning and educate, not for uneducated parents to show how uneducated they are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher.

None of your kids need their phones on them in class. Not one. They stay in the pouch and the class environment is 10x better than it’s been in years. They’re talking to each other, completing their work, engaging in the lesson. If they finish work early, they pull out their book and read or talk to one another, or finish work for another class instead of scrolling.

It doesn’t matter if you think YOUR kid will never touch theirs or will only do when they finish their work. Most don’t do that. The constant “put your phone away, put your phone away” reminders are gone so the lesson is less interrupted. They’re not rushing their work to sit and scroll. They’re not bombarded with 200 notifications from their group chats and snap while they try to focus. They’re not texting you about whatever nonsense you think just can’t wait until the end of the day. EVERYONE is better off when they’re required to be in that pouch.

Another HS teacher. While this is true, the pouches will never work because such a large percentage will put something else in pouch (an old phone, a fake phone, an empty phone case). The pouches are wasting tax dollars. It will be the same as it is now when we collect phones. I wish you would all keep them at home. That is the only true way to prevent them from being used in class.

Other districts are using the pouches with success and with no reports of significant numbers of dummy phones in the pouches. This may be an issue with some schools/students but does that mean that no schools should try it?

I’m not willing to spend my tax dollars on that experiment. You are free to give schools a hefty donation so they can “try it.”

Hahaha. What do you think the entire educational budget is — other than “let’s try it?” I mean, how about Lucy Caulkins? Remember, we will teach them how to read better? Let’s try it! Failed. How about 1:1 educational devices…. For kindergarteners?!?? Let’s try it! Failed. I mean, the list goes on and on. 99% of what a school does is: let’s try it. They “tried” allowing cell phones in school. Now we have depression, anxiety, bullying, distraction. Success?

this is exactly why we shouldnt dive into another experiment that is an expensive waste of time and will fail. I'm looking at you, phone pouches.

Yeah, phone pouches are putting a dent in the budget

Remember that virtual school failure because I am pretty sure that really did put a huge dent in the budget but nobody argued against that.

What do you mean nobody argued against that? The fact that you are still triggered by virtual school makes me certain you're one of the people who did.
And yes I well recall the APEs who screamed let's not spend any money on the poor immunocompromised kids who need virtual because they might die if they got Covid because it takes money away from our healthy kids who want in person school!! That was sooooo gross.

Virtual APS was a failure and unnecessary because it basically did a worse job than VVA. It wasn't about sick kids not going to school in person or not. It was about wasting federal (??) funds to replicate an existing program and then admitting failure and shutting it down after a couple of years

Ok. And?

Why are you still triggered by that?

Just stating a fact. You're the simpleton who's triggered. Why is everything about APE and not about your ignorance? Schools exist to promote learning and educate, not for uneducated parents to show how uneducated they are.

LOL. APE gets nasty when they are triggered.

You should seek help for your long-unaddressed anger issues.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher.

None of your kids need their phones on them in class. Not one. They stay in the pouch and the class environment is 10x better than it’s been in years. They’re talking to each other, completing their work, engaging in the lesson. If they finish work early, they pull out their book and read or talk to one another, or finish work for another class instead of scrolling.

It doesn’t matter if you think YOUR kid will never touch theirs or will only do when they finish their work. Most don’t do that. The constant “put your phone away, put your phone away” reminders are gone so the lesson is less interrupted. They’re not rushing their work to sit and scroll. They’re not bombarded with 200 notifications from their group chats and snap while they try to focus. They’re not texting you about whatever nonsense you think just can’t wait until the end of the day. EVERYONE is better off when they’re required to be in that pouch.

Another HS teacher. While this is true, the pouches will never work because such a large percentage will put something else in pouch (an old phone, a fake phone, an empty phone case). The pouches are wasting tax dollars. It will be the same as it is now when we collect phones. I wish you would all keep them at home. That is the only true way to prevent them from being used in class.

A large percentage also put their actual phone in the pouch; and of the "large percentage" gaming the system....how many of them are you seeing out and collecting during classes? Experience is showing that it is NOT the same with pouches as it was without them. There are legitimate reasons for students to take their phones to school, even if they aren't needed to be used during class or even during the school day. Sometimes my kid texts me after school to let me know they're staying to work on something instead of coming home. Sometimes there's a message they need to see before they get on the bus to come home. Some students walk or drive and parents want them to have phones for safety/emergency purposes.

If you want every student to keep their phone at home, I expect you to do the same.

That actually sounds lovely, I would love to break my addition and maybe I’d be sleeping instead of on here right now.

But the school have these rules. Look, I don’t care if kids have their phones. If they are an issue, keep them at home. The main reason I wish they would is because these new procedures keep giving us more to manage in the classroom. It was easier before when each of us was left to our own classroom management. I don’t care if your kid needs to check a quick text from you. I really don’t.

Ah, I see. You don't like the pouches because it gives you more work to do - ie, enforcing the rules. Whereas, without the pouches, you're free to not care and not do anything if a kid is on their phone. Got it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher.

None of your kids need their phones on them in class. Not one. They stay in the pouch and the class environment is 10x better than it’s been in years. They’re talking to each other, completing their work, engaging in the lesson. If they finish work early, they pull out their book and read or talk to one another, or finish work for another class instead of scrolling.

It doesn’t matter if you think YOUR kid will never touch theirs or will only do when they finish their work. Most don’t do that. The constant “put your phone away, put your phone away” reminders are gone so the lesson is less interrupted. They’re not rushing their work to sit and scroll. They’re not bombarded with 200 notifications from their group chats and snap while they try to focus. They’re not texting you about whatever nonsense you think just can’t wait until the end of the day. EVERYONE is better off when they’re required to be in that pouch.

Another HS teacher. While this is true, the pouches will never work because such a large percentage will put something else in pouch (an old phone, a fake phone, an empty phone case). The pouches are wasting tax dollars. It will be the same as it is now when we collect phones. I wish you would all keep them at home. That is the only true way to prevent them from being used in class.

Other districts are using the pouches with success and with no reports of significant numbers of dummy phones in the pouches. This may be an issue with some schools/students but does that mean that no schools should try it?

I’m not willing to spend my tax dollars on that experiment. You are free to give schools a hefty donation so they can “try it.”

Hahaha. What do you think the entire educational budget is — other than “let’s try it?” I mean, how about Lucy Caulkins? Remember, we will teach them how to read better? Let’s try it! Failed. How about 1:1 educational devices…. For kindergarteners?!?? Let’s try it! Failed. I mean, the list goes on and on. 99% of what a school does is: let’s try it. They “tried” allowing cell phones in school. Now we have depression, anxiety, bullying, distraction. Success?

Right. Those didn’t exist before.

Your kids are young. Stop trying to force things in MS/HS that you don’t understand.

I wrote this and have a HSer.

And I want to ban your kids phone from HS and MS.