Black and Brown Coalition supports proposed regional model

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Anonymous wrote:yeah I would be very very cautious about optics from here on out if you are opposing the regional program model. even what you write here.

Absolutely not. Do not be intimidated in criticizing what is clearly a half-baked plan with egregious flaws and gaps. Silencing yourself is precisely what Taylor and MCPS wanted to do by enlisting BBC's statement in support of the model. Do not let Taylor win. I am saying this as a Black parent. They are using race/equity to intimidate people from speaking the truth. It's a game.

People who know and work toward true equity know and are speaking out about how this program models fails to truly deliver on those fronts.

It does seem like an intimidation tactic.

White women (which DCUM is largely) being intimidated by the Black and Brown coalition (with male spokespeople)….seems like white woman tears. Optics.

White women should lift up the Black and Brown Coalition's recommendation to focus on placing new programs in underserved communities before creating new programs in other areas.

It's a good idea for the superintendent to start building more programs at Gaithersburg HS, Wattkins Mill HS and Kennedy HS. He should start with these schools and build from there.

The problem is not quantity of programs in those schools, it’s the quality.

They already tried putting regional IBs at less-resourced schools. And those IBs are not performing as well as RM, or even the IBs that are local. Why does anyone think MCPS is going to do any better this time? You all are like charlie brown and the football.

Many families don't even want IB and some want AP.

Why do people keep insisting on comparing the regional IB program to RM IB. Like the regional IB programs are fairly new in comparison to RM IB. Its not an apples to apples comparison.

What are you talking about? The Regional IB Programs mirror the same structure and cohort modely from 9-12 as RMIB. It is an apples to apples comparison in that regard.

What isn't the same is the experience of the staff running the program, the quality of the teachers, and the resources each principal/school puts into supporting the program.

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Anonymous wrote:yeah I would be very very cautious about optics from here on out if you are opposing the regional program model. even what you write here.

Absolutely not. Do not be intimidated in criticizing what is clearly a half-baked plan with egregious flaws and gaps. Silencing yourself is precisely what Taylor and MCPS wanted to do by enlisting BBC's statement in support of the model. Do not let Taylor win. I am saying this as a Black parent. They are using race/equity to intimidate people from speaking the truth. It's a game.

People who know and work toward true equity know and are speaking out about how this program models fails to truly deliver on those fronts.

It does seem like an intimidation tactic.

White women (which DCUM is largely) being intimidated by the Black and Brown coalition (with male spokespeople)….seems like white woman tears. Optics.

White women should lift up the Black and Brown Coalition's recommendation to focus on placing new programs in underserved communities before creating new programs in other areas.

It's a good idea for the superintendent to start building more programs at Gaithersburg HS, Wattkins Mill HS and Kennedy HS. He should start with these schools and build from there.

The problem is not quantity of programs in those schools, it’s the quality.

They already tried putting regional IBs at less-resourced schools. And those IBs are not performing as well as RM, or even the IBs that are local. Why does anyone think MCPS is going to do any better this time? You all are like charlie brown and the football.

This has been pointed out several times to MCPS and they don't have an answer.

I disagree with most of what MCPS does and how they are responding to concerns about the program model. However, the narrative that only programs on well resourced schools can succeed is false. I know you know this because I just posted about this and you ignored my post.

They can succeed in any school if capable students find the program desirable and choose to matriculate. It doesn’t matter where it’s housed. What matters is the cohort. The existing regional IB programs aren’t seen as desirable, so the majority of strong students don’t find it worth applying.

This is simply not true. I had a kid at one of the regional IB schools and the main problems were:

- Teachers not familiar enough to align curriculum and pacing with IB expectations and exam
- Master schedule issues that resulted in IB classes being pulled and mashed together at the last minute
- IB Coordinators not organized, resourced our supported enough to make the program a success

All of these things I pointed out are MCPS issues and have nothing to do with the quality of the student cohorts.

Exactly. Thank you. Its not enough to just look at the test scores and say "oh its not working" if we haven't also evaluated if everything else about the setup, resourcing, faculty training, support, and expectations are similar.

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Anonymous wrote:yeah I would be very very cautious about optics from here on out if you are opposing the regional program model. even what you write here.

Absolutely not. Do not be intimidated in criticizing what is clearly a half-baked plan with egregious flaws and gaps. Silencing yourself is precisely what Taylor and MCPS wanted to do by enlisting BBC's statement in support of the model. Do not let Taylor win. I am saying this as a Black parent. They are using race/equity to intimidate people from speaking the truth. It's a game.

People who know and work toward true equity know and are speaking out about how this program models fails to truly deliver on those fronts.

It does seem like an intimidation tactic.

White women (which DCUM is largely) being intimidated by the Black and Brown coalition (with male spokespeople)….seems like white woman tears. Optics.

White women should lift up the Black and Brown Coalition's recommendation to focus on placing new programs in underserved communities before creating new programs in other areas.

It's a good idea for the superintendent to start building more programs at Gaithersburg HS, Wattkins Mill HS and Kennedy HS. He should start with these schools and build from there.

The problem is not quantity of programs in those schools, it’s the quality.

They already tried putting regional IBs at less-resourced schools. And those IBs are not performing as well as RM, or even the IBs that are local. Why does anyone think MCPS is going to do any better this time? You all are like charlie brown and the football.

I thought the Watkins Mill IB program was doing pretty well? I know the Kennedy one is not but not sure all the reasons behind that

None of them (WM, Springbrook and Kennedy) are performing at the same level as RMIB, which was the point of the regional expansion, and the purported goal of this regional program model.

Well of course they're not going to, because not only does RMIB serve mostly kids with the very highest test scores in the county (while the others do not), but less than 90% of them have ever been on FARMS. Meanwhile 90% of the Kennedy IB kids and 93% of the Watkins Mill IB kids are currently or have previously been on FARMS. There is absolutely no way anyone can possibly expect them to come close to RMIB outcomes given that. It's honestly incredibly impressive that Watkins Mill IB program has done as well as it has given the circumstances.

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Anonymous wrote:yeah I would be very very cautious about optics from here on out if you are opposing the regional program model. even what you write here.

Absolutely not. Do not be intimidated in criticizing what is clearly a half-baked plan with egregious flaws and gaps. Silencing yourself is precisely what Taylor and MCPS wanted to do by enlisting BBC's statement in support of the model. Do not let Taylor win. I am saying this as a Black parent. They are using race/equity to intimidate people from speaking the truth. It's a game.

People who know and work toward true equity know and are speaking out about how this program models fails to truly deliver on those fronts.

It does seem like an intimidation tactic.

White women (which DCUM is largely) being intimidated by the Black and Brown coalition (with male spokespeople)….seems like white woman tears. Optics.

White women should lift up the Black and Brown Coalition's recommendation to focus on placing new programs in underserved communities before creating new programs in other areas.

It's a good idea for the superintendent to start building more programs at Gaithersburg HS, Wattkins Mill HS and Kennedy HS. He should start with these schools and build from there.

The problem is not quantity of programs in those schools, it’s the quality.

They already tried putting regional IBs at less-resourced schools. And those IBs are not performing as well as RM, or even the IBs that are local. Why does anyone think MCPS is going to do any better this time? You all are like charlie brown and the football.

I thought the Watkins Mill IB program was doing pretty well? I know the Kennedy one is not but not sure all the reasons behind that

None of them (WM, Springbrook and Kennedy) are performing at the same level as RMIB, which was the point of the regional expansion, and the purported goal of this regional program model.

Well of course they're not going to, because not only does RMIB serve mostly kids with the very highest test scores in the county (while the others do not), but less than 90% of them have ever been on FARMS. Meanwhile 90% of the Kennedy IB kids and 93% of the Watkins Mill IB kids are currently or have previously been on FARMS. There is absolutely no way anyone can possibly expect them to come close to RMIB outcomes given that. It's honestly incredibly impressive that Watkins Mill IB program has done as well as it has given the circumstances.

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Anonymous wrote:yeah I would be very very cautious about optics from here on out if you are opposing the regional program model. even what you write here.

Absolutely not. Do not be intimidated in criticizing what is clearly a half-baked plan with egregious flaws and gaps. Silencing yourself is precisely what Taylor and MCPS wanted to do by enlisting BBC's statement in support of the model. Do not let Taylor win. I am saying this as a Black parent. They are using race/equity to intimidate people from speaking the truth. It's a game.

People who know and work toward true equity know and are speaking out about how this program models fails to truly deliver on those fronts.

It does seem like an intimidation tactic.

White women (which DCUM is largely) being intimidated by the Black and Brown coalition (with male spokespeople)….seems like white woman tears. Optics.

White women should lift up the Black and Brown Coalition's recommendation to focus on placing new programs in underserved communities before creating new programs in other areas.

It's a good idea for the superintendent to start building more programs at Gaithersburg HS, Wattkins Mill HS and Kennedy HS. He should start with these schools and build from there.

The problem is not quantity of programs in those schools, it’s the quality.

They already tried putting regional IBs at less-resourced schools. And those IBs are not performing as well as RM, or even the IBs that are local. Why does anyone think MCPS is going to do any better this time? You all are like charlie brown and the football.

Many families don't even want IB and some want AP.

Why do people keep insisting on comparing the regional IB program to RM IB. Like the regional IB programs are fairly new in comparison to RM IB. Its not an apples to apples comparison.

Because they want to justify ignoring the request of the Black and Brown Coalition to prioritize creating programs in underserved areas before creating new programs in other areas, but don't worry they will ignore it anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:Copied from another thread that has already discussed about this topic:

“Byron Johns is a vendor for Montgomery College IT on an annual contract that has been about $500,000 for a decade.”

For people who aren't terminally online, who is Byron Johns?

He’s a nobody who has sucked off of MCPS’ tit for way too long. And same with Diego - completely useless to the community they claim to serve. This group has never ever accomplished anything.

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Anonymous wrote:Does the Black and Brown Coalition allow Asians to join too?

Yes. They have regular meetings - every race is on the calls.

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Anonymous wrote:yeah I would be very very cautious about optics from here on out if you are opposing the regional program model. even what you write here.

Absolutely not. Do not be intimidated in criticizing what is clearly a half-baked plan with egregious flaws and gaps. Silencing yourself is precisely what Taylor and MCPS wanted to do by enlisting BBC's statement in support of the model. Do not let Taylor win. I am saying this as a Black parent. They are using race/equity to intimidate people from speaking the truth. It's a game.

People who know and work toward true equity know and are speaking out about how this program models fails to truly deliver on those fronts.

It does seem like an intimidation tactic.

White women (which DCUM is largely) being intimidated by the Black and Brown coalition (with male spokespeople)….seems like white woman tears. Optics.

White women should lift up the Black and Brown Coalition's recommendation to focus on placing new programs in underserved communities before creating new programs in other areas.

It's a good idea for the superintendent to start building more programs at Gaithersburg HS, Wattkins Mill HS and Kennedy HS. He should start with these schools and build from there.

The problem is not quantity of programs in those schools, it’s the quality.

They already tried putting regional IBs at less-resourced schools. And those IBs are not performing as well as RM, or even the IBs that are local. Why does anyone think MCPS is going to do any better this time? You all are like charlie brown and the football.

This has been pointed out several times to MCPS and they don't have an answer.

I disagree with most of what MCPS does and how they are responding to concerns about the program model. However, the narrative that only programs on well resourced schools can succeed is false. I know you know this because I just posted about this and you ignored my post.

They can succeed in any school if capable students find the program desirable and choose to matriculate. It doesn’t matter where it’s housed. What matters is the cohort. The existing regional IB programs aren’t seen as desirable, so the majority of strong students don’t find it worth applying.

This is simply not true. I had a kid at one of the regional IB schools and the main problems were:

- Teachers not familiar enough to align curriculum and pacing with IB expectations and exam
- Master schedule issues that resulted in IB classes being pulled and mashed together at the last minute
- IB Coordinators not organized, resourced our supported enough to make the program a success

All of these things I pointed out are MCPS issues and have nothing to do with the quality of the student cohorts.

Exactly. Thank you. Its not enough to just look at the test scores and say "oh its not working" if we haven't also evaluated if everything else about the setup, resourcing, faculty training, support, and expectations are similar.

Well they aren’t giving themselves a whole lot of time or money to make sure any of the new programs have any of these supports or structures. So that’s where there’s concern…from everyone except this Byron gentleman, evidently.

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Anonymous wrote:yeah I would be very very cautious about optics from here on out if you are opposing the regional program model. even what you write here.

Absolutely not. Do not be intimidated in criticizing what is clearly a half-baked plan with egregious flaws and gaps. Silencing yourself is precisely what Taylor and MCPS wanted to do by enlisting BBC's statement in support of the model. Do not let Taylor win. I am saying this as a Black parent. They are using race/equity to intimidate people from speaking the truth. It's a game.

People who know and work toward true equity know and are speaking out about how this program models fails to truly deliver on those fronts.

It does seem like an intimidation tactic.

White women (which DCUM is largely) being intimidated by the Black and Brown coalition (with male spokespeople)….seems like white woman tears. Optics.

White women should lift up the Black and Brown Coalition's recommendation to focus on placing new programs in underserved communities before creating new programs in other areas.

It's a good idea for the superintendent to start building more programs at Gaithersburg HS, Wattkins Mill HS and Kennedy HS. He should start with these schools and build from there.

The problem is not quantity of programs in those schools, it’s the quality.

They already tried putting regional IBs at less-resourced schools. And those IBs are not performing as well as RM, or even the IBs that are local. Why does anyone think MCPS is going to do any better this time? You all are like charlie brown and the football.

I thought the Watkins Mill IB program was doing pretty well? I know the Kennedy one is not but not sure all the reasons behind that

None of them (WM, Springbrook and Kennedy) are performing at the same level as RMIB, which was the point of the regional expansion, and the purported goal of this regional program model.

Well of course they're not going to, because not only does RMIB serve mostly kids with the very highest test scores in the county (while the others do not), but less than 90% of them have ever been on FARMS. Meanwhile 90% of the Kennedy IB kids and 93% of the Watkins Mill IB kids are currently or have previously been on FARMS. There is absolutely no way anyone can possibly expect them to come close to RMIB outcomes given that. It's honestly incredibly impressive that Watkins Mill IB program has done as well as it has given the circumstances.

So how do seclude Watkins Mill and Kennedy to their own respective regions help improve their IB programs? I don’t get the logic. Do they currently send their top students to RMIB?

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Anonymous wrote:yeah I would be very very cautious about optics from here on out if you are opposing the regional program model. even what you write here.

Absolutely not. Do not be intimidated in criticizing what is clearly a half-baked plan with egregious flaws and gaps. Silencing yourself is precisely what Taylor and MCPS wanted to do by enlisting BBC's statement in support of the model. Do not let Taylor win. I am saying this as a Black parent. They are using race/equity to intimidate people from speaking the truth. It's a game.

People who know and work toward true equity know and are speaking out about how this program models fails to truly deliver on those fronts.

It does seem like an intimidation tactic.

White women (which DCUM is largely) being intimidated by the Black and Brown coalition (with male spokespeople)….seems like white woman tears. Optics.

White women should lift up the Black and Brown Coalition's recommendation to focus on placing new programs in underserved communities before creating new programs in other areas.

It's a good idea for the superintendent to start building more programs at Gaithersburg HS, Wattkins Mill HS and Kennedy HS. He should start with these schools and build from there.

The problem is not quantity of programs in those schools, it’s the quality.

They already tried putting regional IBs at less-resourced schools. And those IBs are not performing as well as RM, or even the IBs that are local. Why does anyone think MCPS is going to do any better this time? You all are like charlie brown and the football.

This has been pointed out several times to MCPS and they don't have an answer.

I disagree with most of what MCPS does and how they are responding to concerns about the program model. However, the narrative that only programs on well resourced schools can succeed is false. I know you know this because I just posted about this and you ignored my post.

They can succeed in any school if capable students find the program desirable and choose to matriculate. It doesn’t matter where it’s housed. What matters is the cohort. The existing regional IB programs aren’t seen as desirable, so the majority of strong students don’t find it worth applying.

This is simply not true. I had a kid at one of the regional IB schools and the main problems were:

- Teachers not familiar enough to align curriculum and pacing with IB expectations and exam
- Master schedule issues that resulted in IB classes being pulled and mashed together at the last minute
- IB Coordinators not organized, resourced our supported enough to make the program a success

All of these things I pointed out are MCPS issues and have nothing to do with the quality of the student cohorts.

Exactly. Thank you. Its not enough to just look at the test scores and say "oh its not working" if we haven't also evaluated if everything else about the setup, resourcing, faculty training, support, and expectations are similar.

Well they aren’t giving themselves a whole lot of time or money to make sure any of the new programs have any of these supports or structures. So that’s where there’s concern…from everyone except this Byron gentleman, evidently.

Well he is recommending they implement programs in underserved areas before creating new programs in other areas. It is almost like he is telling them to go slower while also accusing everyone else who is asking them to go slower of being racists. It is certainly a confusing position.

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Anonymous wrote:yeah I would be very very cautious about optics from here on out if you are opposing the regional program model. even what you write here.

Absolutely not. Do not be intimidated in criticizing what is clearly a half-baked plan with egregious flaws and gaps. Silencing yourself is precisely what Taylor and MCPS wanted to do by enlisting BBC's statement in support of the model. Do not let Taylor win. I am saying this as a Black parent. They are using race/equity to intimidate people from speaking the truth. It's a game.

People who know and work toward true equity know and are speaking out about how this program models fails to truly deliver on those fronts.

It does seem like an intimidation tactic.

White women (which DCUM is largely) being intimidated by the Black and Brown coalition (with male spokespeople)….seems like white woman tears. Optics.

White women should lift up the Black and Brown Coalition's recommendation to focus on placing new programs in underserved communities before creating new programs in other areas.

It's a good idea for the superintendent to start building more programs at Gaithersburg HS, Wattkins Mill HS and Kennedy HS. He should start with these schools and build from there.

The problem is not quantity of programs in those schools, it’s the quality.

They already tried putting regional IBs at less-resourced schools. And those IBs are not performing as well as RM, or even the IBs that are local. Why does anyone think MCPS is going to do any better this time? You all are like charlie brown and the football.

I thought the Watkins Mill IB program was doing pretty well? I know the Kennedy one is not but not sure all the reasons behind that

None of them (WM, Springbrook and Kennedy) are performing at the same level as RMIB, which was the point of the regional expansion, and the purported goal of this regional program model.

Well of course they're not going to, because not only does RMIB serve mostly kids with the very highest test scores in the county (while the others do not), but less than 90% of them have ever been on FARMS. Meanwhile 90% of the Kennedy IB kids and 93% of the Watkins Mill IB kids are currently or have previously been on FARMS. There is absolutely no way anyone can possibly expect them to come close to RMIB outcomes given that. It's honestly incredibly impressive that Watkins Mill IB program has done as well as it has given the circumstances.

So how do seclude Watkins Mill and Kennedy to their own respective regions help improve their IB programs? I don’t get the logic. Do they currently send their top students to RMIB?

Yes, both regions send lots of kids to RMIB. WJ and Churchill are in the Kennedy IB region currently and send over 100 kids to RMIB. Wootton is in the current Watkins Mill IB region and sends 62 kids to RMIB just from that school alone, with another almost 100 to RMIB from other schools in the WM IB region between Clarksburg, Damascus, Northwest, and QO.

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Anonymous wrote:Copied from another thread that has already discussed about this topic:

“Byron Johns is a vendor for Montgomery College IT on an annual contract that has been about $500,000 for a decade.”

For people who aren't terminally online, who is Byron Johns?

He’s a nobody who has sucked off of MCPS’ tit for way too long. And same with Diego - completely useless to the community they claim to serve. This group has never ever accomplished anything.

lol a nobody you seem to know too much about

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Anonymous wrote:yeah I would be very very cautious about optics from here on out if you are opposing the regional program model. even what you write here.

Absolutely not. Do not be intimidated in criticizing what is clearly a half-baked plan with egregious flaws and gaps. Silencing yourself is precisely what Taylor and MCPS wanted to do by enlisting BBC's statement in support of the model. Do not let Taylor win. I am saying this as a Black parent. They are using race/equity to intimidate people from speaking the truth. It's a game.

People who know and work toward true equity know and are speaking out about how this program models fails to truly deliver on those fronts.

It does seem like an intimidation tactic.

White women (which DCUM is largely) being intimidated by the Black and Brown coalition (with male spokespeople)….seems like white woman tears. Optics.

White women should lift up the Black and Brown Coalition's recommendation to focus on placing new programs in underserved communities before creating new programs in other areas.

It's a good idea for the superintendent to start building more programs at Gaithersburg HS, Wattkins Mill HS and Kennedy HS. He should start with these schools and build from there.

The problem is not quantity of programs in those schools, it’s the quality.

They already tried putting regional IBs at less-resourced schools. And those IBs are not performing as well as RM, or even the IBs that are local. Why does anyone think MCPS is going to do any better this time? You all are like charlie brown and the football.

I thought the Watkins Mill IB program was doing pretty well? I know the Kennedy one is not but not sure all the reasons behind that

None of them (WM, Springbrook and Kennedy) are performing at the same level as RMIB, which was the point of the regional expansion, and the purported goal of this regional program model.

Well of course they're not going to, because not only does RMIB serve mostly kids with the very highest test scores in the county (while the others do not), but less than 90% of them have ever been on FARMS. Meanwhile 90% of the Kennedy IB kids and 93% of the Watkins Mill IB kids are currently or have previously been on FARMS. There is absolutely no way anyone can possibly expect them to come close to RMIB outcomes given that. It's honestly incredibly impressive that Watkins Mill IB program has done as well as it has given the circumstances.

So how do seclude Watkins Mill and Kennedy to their own respective regions help improve their IB programs? I don’t get the logic. Do they currently send their top students to RMIB?

Yes, both regions send lots of kids to RMIB. WJ and Churchill are in the Kennedy IB region currently and send over 100 kids to RMIB. Wootton is in the current Watkins Mill IB region and sends 62 kids to RMIB just from that school alone, with another almost 100 to RMIB from other schools in the WM IB region between Clarksburg, Damascus, Northwest, and QO.

WM is grouped with QO in the future right? Those kids (Wootton, Clarksburg, etc) won’t be able to join WMIB in the future anyway. So how do they improve WMIB cohort in the regional model?

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Anonymous wrote:yeah I would be very very cautious about optics from here on out if you are opposing the regional program model. even what you write here.

The Black and Brown Coalition recommended implementing programs in underserved areas first before adding programs elsewhere and I think that's a fantastic idea that a lot of people should support and amplify and hold MCPS accountable for, especially if they are going to dismiss all opposition based on the opinion of two people with financial ties to BOE/MCPS.

But rolling this program model out will shift the highest performing kids from lower performing schools. For example, in Region 1, expect Einstein families to flee and go to B-CC or Blair if they can.

Dude, those kids already flee to Wheaton, RMIB and Blair if they can.

Yes, kids are fleeing to from Einstein and Kennedy to Wheaton because it's a newer building.

But they aren't able to flee to RMIB and Blair. MCPS admitted that the enrollment numbers for both RMIB and Blair's magnet programs show that kids come overwhelmingly from W schools such as Blair, Whitman, Churchill, etc. This is in fact part of their justification for dismantling the countywide magnet programs, since only a handful of school communities are benefitting from the program.

Is Blair now considered a W?

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Anonymous wrote:yeah I would be very very cautious about optics from here on out if you are opposing the regional program model. even what you write here.

Absolutely not. Do not be intimidated in criticizing what is clearly a half-baked plan with egregious flaws and gaps. Silencing yourself is precisely what Taylor and MCPS wanted to do by enlisting BBC's statement in support of the model. Do not let Taylor win. I am saying this as a Black parent. They are using race/equity to intimidate people from speaking the truth. It's a game.

People who know and work toward true equity know and are speaking out about how this program models fails to truly deliver on those fronts.

It does seem like an intimidation tactic.

White women (which DCUM is largely) being intimidated by the Black and Brown coalition (with male spokespeople)….seems like white woman tears. Optics.

White women should lift up the Black and Brown Coalition's recommendation to focus on placing new programs in underserved communities before creating new programs in other areas.

It's a good idea for the superintendent to start building more programs at Gaithersburg HS, Wattkins Mill HS and Kennedy HS. He should start with these schools and build from there.

The problem is not quantity of programs in those schools, it’s the quality.

They already tried putting regional IBs at less-resourced schools. And those IBs are not performing as well as RM, or even the IBs that are local. Why does anyone think MCPS is going to do any better this time? You all are like charlie brown and the football.

I thought the Watkins Mill IB program was doing pretty well? I know the Kennedy one is not but not sure all the reasons behind that

None of them (WM, Springbrook and Kennedy) are performing at the same level as RMIB, which was the point of the regional expansion, and the purported goal of this regional program model.

Well of course they're not going to, because not only does RMIB serve mostly kids with the very highest test scores in the county (while the others do not), but less than 90% of them have ever been on FARMS. Meanwhile 90% of the Kennedy IB kids and 93% of the Watkins Mill IB kids are currently or have previously been on FARMS. There is absolutely no way anyone can possibly expect them to come close to RMIB outcomes given that. It's honestly incredibly impressive that Watkins Mill IB program has done as well as it has given the circumstances.

So how do seclude Watkins Mill and Kennedy to their own respective regions help improve their IB programs? I don’t get the logic. Do they currently send their top students to RMIB?

Yes, both regions send lots of kids to RMIB. WJ and Churchill are in the Kennedy IB region currently and send over 100 kids to RMIB. Wootton is in the current Watkins Mill IB region and sends 62 kids to RMIB just from that school alone, with another almost 100 to RMIB from other schools in the WM IB region between Clarksburg, Damascus, Northwest, and QO.

WM is grouped with QO in the future right? Those kids (Wootton, Clarksburg, etc) won’t be able to join WMIB in the future anyway. So how do they improve WMIB cohort in the regional model?

Yes, those were based on their current sending schools, not the new 6 region model. Just pointing out that MCPS is correct when they say that many high-achieving kids currently pick RMIB over the regional IBs they are also eligible for.