The Diplomat-Season 3

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Anonymous wrote:I couldn’t get into the first season, because it seemed like the premise was that the main character (and her husband) were the only two people with any brain cells and every other person in their world was an idiot who needed Keri Russell to save them.
Does it get any better? Should I go back and try again? I am looking for something good to watch and wanted to like this but didn’t….

This is my problem with the finale. Kate is really the only person who knows that a cluster this is? When people on the American sub knows what happened? It’s just ridiculous.

I have zero knowledge about how any of this works so maybe it's realistic, but Kate somehow knows immediately what is going on and why, sometimes before it's even happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I liked the scene where Keri eyes the woman playing her body double and says something to the effect that, you know, my hair is not actually dirty… and I do brush it.

Clearly the writers were reading online comments about Keri’s hair in the first two seasons. My friend and I laughed at that scene.

Really? I didn't think the double's hair was all that messy until I saw her from the back and it was literal bedhead rat's nest. And then Kate gives her this ridiculous explanation about how "it's a style."

The whole hair thing is such a caricature, along with the zipper thing.

I am now thinking of the show as a farce rather than a drama.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I like this show and this season is the best yet, IMO. However, I cannot stand that on this show (and I had the same complaint on Scandal), the strong, smart lead character chooses to be tied to a self-centered, not as bright putz.

The whole point of this season is that Kate is realizing how similar she is to Hal. He is not more self-centered than she is. In fact, he was willing to put his own career on the back burner for her, something the she was incredibly reluctant to do.

DP. But hadn't Kate put HER career on the back burner for him prior? I think Hal knew Grace Penn would pick him for VP. He just kept pushing for Kate to be VP knowing all the while that he was the perfect candidate. Was anyone actually surprised when she picked him? OF COURSE he wanted to be VP. Him plugging Kate for the role was all a big act, so he could look like the humble, supportive husband. He's a complete narcissist.

I was surprised. DH was not

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like this show and this season is the best yet, IMO. However, I cannot stand that on this show (and I had the same complaint on Scandal), the strong, smart lead character chooses to be tied to a self-centered, not as bright putz.

The whole point of this season is that Kate is realizing how similar she is to Hal. He is not more self-centered than she is. In fact, he was willing to put his own career on the back burner for her, something the she was incredibly reluctant to do.

DP. But hadn't Kate put HER career on the back burner for him prior? I think Hal knew Grace Penn would pick him for VP. He just kept pushing for Kate to be VP knowing all the while that he was the perfect candidate. Was anyone actually surprised when she picked him? OF COURSE he wanted to be VP. Him plugging Kate for the role was all a big act, so he could look like the humble, supportive husband. He's a complete narcissist.

The only way for him to know that Penn would pick him for VP "all the while" is if he knew the president was going to die. That theory makes no sense. Unless by "all the while" you mean in the couple weeks after the president's death?

Yes, the bolded is what I meant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought Hal was way more likable this season.

I wish the Bradley Whitford character hadn’t insinuated that Hal and Grace are “too close” —it seemed like a dumb attempt at a red herring. I could never tell if Callum was good or bad…

This season kept me on my toes! I liked it.

I thought the idea of Hal and Grace somehow having an affair was completely stupid - however, it does look like they had certainly “gotten close” in their scheming and plotting. I wonder if that’s what Grace’s husband has noticed and not a romance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else wondering how they get Keri Russell to look younger in the flashback scenes? Is it my imagination or does her face seem slimmer or more contoured in the flashback scenes and fuller in the present day scenes. What sort of sorcery is this?

Omg. I wondered this as well. She’s so gorgeous but does look much younger.

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Couple of things bugging me:

1. Nobody considered Rayburn's widow when they blamed him for the ship bombing. I don't think she appeared in the funeral episode but still.
2. So Todd never did have an NIH funding issue, but they still wanted to replace the VP. So doesn't that mean Rayburn and Billie knew about Penn's role in the bombing? If so was that after the fact or not?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like this show and this season is the best yet, IMO. However, I cannot stand that on this show (and I had the same complaint on Scandal), the strong, smart lead character chooses to be tied to a self-centered, not as bright putz.

The whole point of this season is that Kate is realizing how similar she is to Hal. He is not more self-centered than she is. In fact, he was willing to put his own career on the back burner for her, something the she was incredibly reluctant to do.

+1

The reality is Kate is the a-hole.

I don't care what his character is like, I can watch Rufus forever.

I enjoy the show but--VP's wife/ambassador to the UK planning to negotiate with the Saudis re: oil leases in the North Sea? Not even that, seems like throughout the show she drives in 5 lanes.

Will the ship attack thing ever rear its head again? It's Iran/no it's Russia/no it's Lemkov/no it's the PM/no its Meg Riolan/no it's the VP was certainly nuts.

She also seems to make a lot of geopolitical decisions on her own without consulting any powers that be, besides her chief of staff 😂.

Me again. Yeah, that too. Even though she periodically does lecture other people about how you have to follow those protocols and principals.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also Rufus Sewell’s American accent was genuinely impressive — not a single slip! If I didn’t remember him from his “Cold Comfort Farm” days, I’d never have guessed he wasn’t American.

He's a pretty good actor. Have you seen this: Man in the high castle?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1740299/

Me again, I'd only seen him in the Victoria series. His appearance and voice remind me of Mark Rylance and at the time I wondered if he was the same person who played Thomas Cromwell in Wolf Hall and had to look it up. (I read the trilogy and Rylance was so perfect for the role) I've read the Man in the High Castle, didn't even know there was a movie.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also Rufus Sewell’s American accent was genuinely impressive — not a single slip! If I didn’t remember him from his “Cold Comfort Farm” days, I’d never have guessed he wasn’t American.

He's a pretty good actor. Have you seen this: Man in the high castle?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1740299/

Me again, I'd only seen him in the Victoria series. His appearance and voice remind me of Mark Rylance and at the time I wondered if he was the same person who played Thomas Cromwell in Wolf Hall and had to look it up. (I read the trilogy and Rylance was so perfect for the role) I've read the Man in the High Castle, didn't even know there was a movie.

NP- it’s a show and it’s excellent. He’s so good in it

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else wondering how they get Keri Russell to look younger in the flashback scenes? Is it my imagination or does her face seem slimmer or more contoured in the flashback scenes and fuller in the present day scenes. What sort of sorcery is this?

Omg. I wondered this as well. She’s so gorgeous but does look much younger.

TV magic!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OK I got distracted by one of my kids while watching the final episode and don’t feel like rewatching. Spoiler question ….


why did Kate go back to Hal at the end of the episode? the last I saw she had made a plea to her boyfriend asking for another chance, and it seemed like he was giving her one? even if he didn’t, she begged Hal for forgiveness and asked to be taken back, which seemed totally out of the blue.

I had the same question! It was bizarre that she went back to Hal all of a sudden when she had just pleaded her case to the boyfriend. And then to find out how badly Hal just burned her... yikes.

I just finished season three and didn’t want to start this thread until I had. I’m completely confused by this as well unless it’s just some sort of subterfuge and she’s not really going to stay with him. It was so abrupt, that it doesn’t fit at all with the rest of the season.

I like watching the faces of almost all of the actors in this show because they seem so expressive, almost as if the faces themselves are the characters.

[Anonymous]

sadly I guess we’ve seen the last of Aidan turner.

I liked that scene where she says something like “pleasant to see you. Now get the f— out.” And he says “pleasant to f— you. I’ll see myself out.”
He’s very hot, and has a very sexy voice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like this show and this season is the best yet, IMO. However, I cannot stand that on this show (and I had the same complaint on Scandal), the strong, smart lead character chooses to be tied to a self-centered, not as bright putz.

The whole point of this season is that Kate is realizing how similar she is to Hal. He is not more self-centered than she is. In fact, he was willing to put his own career on the back burner for her, something the she was incredibly reluctant to do.

While they may be similar, he was NOT willing to backburner anything for her, and has been scheming and pulling strings the whole show.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like this show and this season is the best yet, IMO. However, I cannot stand that on this show (and I had the same complaint on Scandal), the strong, smart lead character chooses to be tied to a self-centered, not as bright putz.

The whole point of this season is that Kate is realizing how similar she is to Hal. He is not more self-centered than she is. In fact, he was willing to put his own career on the back burner for her, something the she was incredibly reluctant to do.

While they may be similar, he was NOT willing to backburner anything for her, and has been scheming and pulling strings the whole show.

+1
His constant presence at her office, insinuating himself into meetings with her… I would have absolutely gone through the roof married to a narcissist like him.