Women, be honest, if your husband was fat

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Anonymous wrote:I would not personally be attracted. But I'm sure there are some ladies that like the fuller figured males

Are there?

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As with the other thread about fat wives, I believe the subject thread should REALLY be... "if your previously thin husband got fat"

A woman who married a fat man has NO RIGHT to complain.
But... a woman who married a fit man who LATER got fat has EVERY right to complain.

( signed, always-been-super-fit man married to a previously thin-now-fat wife = not attractive)

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Anonymous wrote:I would not personally be attracted. But I'm sure there are some ladies that like the fuller figured males

Are there?

Not really, but I was trying to be nice! lol...

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Anonymous wrote:The double standards between this thread and the one about fatter wives is astounding. it's ok for a wife to lose interest when he gets big, but not the other way around, got it.

Weight looks different on men and women. Never in the history of time have fat men been idealized

Except for most of human history? I have trouble believing some of you on here ever revived a higher education. Fat men were often wealthy men for most of history because they were the only ones who could afford to get fat. Seriously, go look at a museum and see what noble medieval armor looked like (hint it was built for a lot of NFL lineman in mind). This fat bast@%! literally created a new religion so his new hot plaything could become his trophy wife.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha I don't think you know what the word "idealized" means. Hint: it doesn't mean universally made fun of, as Henry VII.

I repeat: fat men have never in the history of time been idealized. Never.

"Idealized-Regard or represent as perfect or better than in reality." According to the OED I think i realize exactly what it means. Let's ask a simple question. If you had to go back in time to another life would you rather be woman with all the rights that entailed, a minority who was so well treated in that economic system, a skinny peasant thin and muscular from working his lords crops all the time or would it be a cushier life to be this fat f@#%. I'm not arguing that fat is attractive today. I'm not arguing it's healthy to be fat. I'm 6'3" and 195 so don't think is a personal front. I do however take an issue with such a blatantly stupid and false statement. For most of human history fat men were idealized, they set fashion trends ruled lands and countries. Fat used to be a symbol of power. Of plenty, abundance etc. All things we still love today, now it's just supplanted by money.

Henry the VIII wasn't widely made fun of. He was one of the most powerful monarchs of his time. Just like this fat dude

Dude. He was powerful because he was born as a king. He was widely ridiculed at the time for his obesity. For you to say his body was idealized either shows, again, a total lack of knowledge of what the word "idealized" means, or a desperate attempt to skirt the issue. This is not about did "have all fat men had horrible lives" this is about "what male figure was idealized" and the reality of that is that it has never, ever been fat men. This is contrast to fat female figures which have been idealized fairly consistently throughout history.

You asked why the double standard exists- that's part of it. It is what it is. No amount of sting pictures of Jabba the Hut and claiming because he had a slave his figure is "idealized" is going to convince anyone

Powerful=Fat. That's what you're missing. Only kings and nobles could be fat during the time, I'm not saying they were the male models of the middle ages, but they were the men everyone wanted to be. Much like idealization. Umberto Eco wrote about this very thing in the History of Beauty and talked about the changing attitudes during the renaissance and Victorian era's if you actually want to read a historian's take.

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Anonymous wrote:The double standards between this thread and the one about fatter wives is astounding. it's ok for a wife to lose interest when he gets big, but not the other way around, got it.

Weight looks different on men and women. Never in the history of time have fat men been idealized

Except for most of human history? I have trouble believing some of you on here ever revived a higher education. Fat men were often wealthy men for most of history because they were the only ones who could afford to get fat. Seriously, go look at a museum and see what noble medieval armor looked like (hint it was built for a lot of NFL lineman in mind). This fat bast@%! literally created a new religion so his new hot plaything could become his trophy wife.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha I don't think you know what the word "idealized" means. Hint: it doesn't mean universally made fun of, as Henry VII.

I repeat: fat men have never in the history of time been idealized. Never.

"Idealized-Regard or represent as perfect or better than in reality." According to the OED I think i realize exactly what it means. Let's ask a simple question. If you had to go back in time to another life would you rather be woman with all the rights that entailed, a minority who was so well treated in that economic system, a skinny peasant thin and muscular from working his lords crops all the time or would it be a cushier life to be this fat f@#%. I'm not arguing that fat is attractive today. I'm not arguing it's healthy to be fat. I'm 6'3" and 195 so don't think is a personal front. I do however take an issue with such a blatantly stupid and false statement. For most of human history fat men were idealized, they set fashion trends ruled lands and countries. Fat used to be a symbol of power. Of plenty, abundance etc. All things we still love today, now it's just supplanted by money.

Henry the VIII wasn't widely made fun of. He was one of the most powerful monarchs of his time. Just like this fat dude

Dude. He was powerful because he was born as a king. He was widely ridiculed at the time for his obesity. For you to say his body was idealized either shows, again, a total lack of knowledge of what the word "idealized" means, or a desperate attempt to skirt the issue. This is not about did "have all fat men had horrible lives" this is about "what male figure was idealized" and the reality of that is that it has never, ever been fat men. This is contrast to fat female figures which have been idealized fairly consistently throughout history.

You asked why the double standard exists- that's part of it. It is what it is. No amount of sting pictures of Jabba the Hut and claiming because he had a slave his figure is "idealized" is going to convince anyone

Powerful=Fat. That's what you're missing. Only kings and nobles could be fat during the time, I'm not saying they were the male models of the middle ages, but they were the men everyone wanted to be. Much like idealization. Umberto Eco wrote about this very thing in the History of Beauty and talked about the changing attitudes during the renaissance and Victorian era's if you actually want to read a historian's take.

Right, we're not talking about power, political or otherwise. We're talking about the physical body and what has been idealized, purely physically, throughout time. Which has never been fat.

Next you're going to try to tell me that Harvey Weinstein is the current model of male beauty since he's got power. I don't think you understand the subject we're talking about, to put it kindly.

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Anonymous wrote:The double standards between this thread and the one about fatter wives is astounding. it's ok for a wife to lose interest when he gets big, but not the other way around, got it.

Weight looks different on men and women. Never in the history of time have fat men been idealized

Except for most of human history? I have trouble believing some of you on here ever revived a higher education. Fat men were often wealthy men for most of history because they were the only ones who could afford to get fat. Seriously, go look at a museum and see what noble medieval armor looked like (hint it was built for a lot of NFL lineman in mind). This fat bast@%! literally created a new religion so his new hot plaything could become his trophy wife.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha I don't think you know what the word "idealized" means. Hint: it doesn't mean universally made fun of, as Henry VII.

I repeat: fat men have never in the history of time been idealized. Never.

"Idealized-Regard or represent as perfect or better than in reality." According to the OED I think i realize exactly what it means. Let's ask a simple question. If you had to go back in time to another life would you rather be woman with all the rights that entailed, a minority who was so well treated in that economic system, a skinny peasant thin and muscular from working his lords crops all the time or would it be a cushier life to be this fat f@#%. I'm not arguing that fat is attractive today. I'm not arguing it's healthy to be fat. I'm 6'3" and 195 so don't think is a personal front. I do however take an issue with such a blatantly stupid and false statement. For most of human history fat men were idealized, they set fashion trends ruled lands and countries. Fat used to be a symbol of power. Of plenty, abundance etc. All things we still love today, now it's just supplanted by money.

Henry the VIII wasn't widely made fun of. He was one of the most powerful monarchs of his time. Just like this fat dude

Dude. He was powerful because he was born as a king. He was widely ridiculed at the time for his obesity. For you to say his body was idealized either shows, again, a total lack of knowledge of what the word "idealized" means, or a desperate attempt to skirt the issue. This is not about did "have all fat men had horrible lives" this is about "what male figure was idealized" and the reality of that is that it has never, ever been fat men. This is contrast to fat female figures which have been idealized fairly consistently throughout history.

You asked why the double standard exists- that's part of it. It is what it is. No amount of sting pictures of Jabba the Hut and claiming because he had a slave his figure is "idealized" is going to convince anyone

Powerful=Fat. That's what you're missing. Only kings and nobles could be fat during the time, I'm not saying they were the male models of the middle ages, but they were the men everyone wanted to be. Much like idealization. Umberto Eco wrote about this very thing in the History of Beauty and talked about the changing attitudes during the renaissance and Victorian era's if you actually want to read a historian's take.

Right, we're not talking about power, political or otherwise. We're talking about the physical body and what has been idealized, purely physically, throughout time. Which has never been fat.

Next you're going to try to tell me that Harvey Weinstein is the current model of male beauty since he's got power. I don't think you understand the subject we're talking about, to put it kindly.

Someone said fat men have never been idealized in all of human history and they didn't say that that was just limited to the physical realm of beauty. That, as these examples show is not true for one simple reason; for most of human a man's value has not been determined by his level of physical attraction. The look of a man simply matters less to most women than the reverse. Wealth, power, influence were historically more important. That is still idealization, it's just a realistic one. Fat guys used to be the catch.

Some of that still rings true today. If you asked me who I think is more likely to have a hot spouse, Harvey Weinstein or Rosie O'Donnell most betting people will pick the fat guy every time.

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Anonymous wrote:The double standards between this thread and the one about fatter wives is astounding. it's ok for a wife to lose interest when he gets big, but not the other way around, got it.

Weight looks different on men and women. Never in the history of time have fat men been idealized

Except for most of human history? I have trouble believing some of you on here ever revived a higher education. Fat men were often wealthy men for most of history because they were the only ones who could afford to get fat. Seriously, go look at a museum and see what noble medieval armor looked like (hint it was built for a lot of NFL lineman in mind). This fat bast@%! literally created a new religion so his new hot plaything could become his trophy wife.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha I don't think you know what the word "idealized" means. Hint: it doesn't mean universally made fun of, as Henry VII.

I repeat: fat men have never in the history of time been idealized. Never.

"Idealized-Regard or represent as perfect or better than in reality." According to the OED I think i realize exactly what it means. Let's ask a simple question. If you had to go back in time to another life would you rather be woman with all the rights that entailed, a minority who was so well treated in that economic system, a skinny peasant thin and muscular from working his lords crops all the time or would it be a cushier life to be this fat f@#%. I'm not arguing that fat is attractive today. I'm not arguing it's healthy to be fat. I'm 6'3" and 195 so don't think is a personal front. I do however take an issue with such a blatantly stupid and false statement. For most of human history fat men were idealized, they set fashion trends ruled lands and countries. Fat used to be a symbol of power. Of plenty, abundance etc. All things we still love today, now it's just supplanted by money.

Henry the VIII wasn't widely made fun of. He was one of the most powerful monarchs of his time. Just like this fat dude

Dude. He was powerful because he was born as a king. He was widely ridiculed at the time for his obesity. For you to say his body was idealized either shows, again, a total lack of knowledge of what the word "idealized" means, or a desperate attempt to skirt the issue. This is not about did "have all fat men had horrible lives" this is about "what male figure was idealized" and the reality of that is that it has never, ever been fat men. This is contrast to fat female figures which have been idealized fairly consistently throughout history.

You asked why the double standard exists- that's part of it. It is what it is. No amount of sting pictures of Jabba the Hut and claiming because he had a slave his figure is "idealized" is going to convince anyone

Powerful=Fat. That's what you're missing. Only kings and nobles could be fat during the time, I'm not saying they were the male models of the middle ages, but they were the men everyone wanted to be. Much like idealization. Umberto Eco wrote about this very thing in the History of Beauty and talked about the changing attitudes during the renaissance and Victorian era's if you actually want to read a historian's take.

Right, we're not talking about power, political or otherwise. We're talking about the physical body and what has been idealized, purely physically, throughout time. Which has never been fat.

Next you're going to try to tell me that Harvey Weinstein is the current model of male beauty since he's got power. I don't think you understand the subject we're talking about, to put it kindly.

Someone said fat men have never been idealized in all of human history and they didn't say that that was just limited to the physical realm of beauty. That, as these examples show is not true for one simple reason; for most of human a man's value has not been determined by his level of physical attraction. The look of a man simply matters less to most women than the reverse. Wealth, power, influence were historically more important. That is still idealization, it's just a realistic one. Fat guys used to be the catch.

Some of that still rings true today. If you asked me who I think is more likely to have a hot spouse, Harvey Weinstein or Rosie O'Donnell most betting people will pick the fat guy every time.

Yes I said that- let me clarify- fatness on men has never been idealized. Are we clear now?

As for your claims about the look of a man mattering less to women- that is some magical thinking and straight up delusion. But I'm glad we have reached agreement that I was saying fatness on men has never been idealized which I think everyone can agree is true. And yet fatness on women has been idealized. Yay! Clarification!

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Anonymous wrote:The double standards between this thread and the one about fatter wives is astounding. it's ok for a wife to lose interest when he gets big, but not the other way around, got it.

Weight looks different on men and women. Never in the history of time have fat men been idealized

Except for most of human history? I have trouble believing some of you on here ever revived a higher education. Fat men were often wealthy men for most of history because they were the only ones who could afford to get fat. Seriously, go look at a museum and see what noble medieval armor looked like (hint it was built for a lot of NFL lineman in mind). This fat bast@%! literally created a new religion so his new hot plaything could become his trophy wife.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha I don't think you know what the word "idealized" means. Hint: it doesn't mean universally made fun of, as Henry VII.

I repeat: fat men have never in the history of time been idealized. Never.

"Idealized-Regard or represent as perfect or better than in reality." According to the OED I think i realize exactly what it means. Let's ask a simple question. If you had to go back in time to another life would you rather be woman with all the rights that entailed, a minority who was so well treated in that economic system, a skinny peasant thin and muscular from working his lords crops all the time or would it be a cushier life to be this fat f@#%. I'm not arguing that fat is attractive today. I'm not arguing it's healthy to be fat. I'm 6'3" and 195 so don't think is a personal front. I do however take an issue with such a blatantly stupid and false statement. For most of human history fat men were idealized, they set fashion trends ruled lands and countries. Fat used to be a symbol of power. Of plenty, abundance etc. All things we still love today, now it's just supplanted by money.

Henry the VIII wasn't widely made fun of. He was one of the most powerful monarchs of his time. Just like this fat dude

Dude. He was powerful because he was born as a king. He was widely ridiculed at the time for his obesity. For you to say his body was idealized either shows, again, a total lack of knowledge of what the word "idealized" means, or a desperate attempt to skirt the issue. This is not about did "have all fat men had horrible lives" this is about "what male figure was idealized" and the reality of that is that it has never, ever been fat men. This is contrast to fat female figures which have been idealized fairly consistently throughout history.

You asked why the double standard exists- that's part of it. It is what it is. No amount of sting pictures of Jabba the Hut and claiming because he had a slave his figure is "idealized" is going to convince anyone

Powerful=Fat. That's what you're missing. Only kings and nobles could be fat during the time, I'm not saying they were the male models of the middle ages, but they were the men everyone wanted to be. Much like idealization. Umberto Eco wrote about this very thing in the History of Beauty and talked about the changing attitudes during the renaissance and Victorian era's if you actually want to read a historian's take.

Right, we're not talking about power, political or otherwise. We're talking about the physical body and what has been idealized, purely physically, throughout time. Which has never been fat.

Next you're going to try to tell me that Harvey Weinstein is the current model of male beauty since he's got power. I don't think you understand the subject we're talking about, to put it kindly.

Someone said fat men have never been idealized in all of human history and they didn't say that that was just limited to the physical realm of beauty. That, as these examples show is not true for one simple reason; for most of human a man's value has not been determined by his level of physical attraction. The look of a man simply matters less to most women than the reverse. Wealth, power, influence were historically more important. That is still idealization, it's just a realistic one. Fat guys used to be the catch.

Some of that still rings true today. If you asked me who I think is more likely to have a hot spouse, Harvey Weinstein or Rosie O'Donnell most betting people will pick the fat guy every time.

This is what the crux of the issue is, isn’t it? Men are mad that women are expressing purely physical preferences. That’s why you came into the thread complaining.

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Anonymous wrote:The double standards between this thread and the one about fatter wives is astounding. it's ok for a wife to lose interest when he gets big, but not the other way around, got it.

Weight looks different on men and women. Never in the history of time have fat men been idealized

Except for most of human history? I have trouble believing some of you on here ever revived a higher education. Fat men were often wealthy men for most of history because they were the only ones who could afford to get fat. Seriously, go look at a museum and see what noble medieval armor looked like (hint it was built for a lot of NFL lineman in mind). This fat bast@%! literally created a new religion so his new hot plaything could become his trophy wife.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha I don't think you know what the word "idealized" means. Hint: it doesn't mean universally made fun of, as Henry VII.

I repeat: fat men have never in the history of time been idealized. Never.

"Idealized-Regard or represent as perfect or better than in reality." According to the OED I think i realize exactly what it means. Let's ask a simple question. If you had to go back in time to another life would you rather be woman with all the rights that entailed, a minority who was so well treated in that economic system, a skinny peasant thin and muscular from working his lords crops all the time or would it be a cushier life to be this fat f@#%. I'm not arguing that fat is attractive today. I'm not arguing it's healthy to be fat. I'm 6'3" and 195 so don't think is a personal front. I do however take an issue with such a blatantly stupid and false statement. For most of human history fat men were idealized, they set fashion trends ruled lands and countries. Fat used to be a symbol of power. Of plenty, abundance etc. All things we still love today, now it's just supplanted by money.

Henry the VIII wasn't widely made fun of. He was one of the most powerful monarchs of his time. Just like this fat dude

Dude. He was powerful because he was born as a king. He was widely ridiculed at the time for his obesity. For you to say his body was idealized either shows, again, a total lack of knowledge of what the word "idealized" means, or a desperate attempt to skirt the issue. This is not about did "have all fat men had horrible lives" this is about "what male figure was idealized" and the reality of that is that it has never, ever been fat men. This is contrast to fat female figures which have been idealized fairly consistently throughout history.

You asked why the double standard exists- that's part of it. It is what it is. No amount of sting pictures of Jabba the Hut and claiming because he had a slave his figure is "idealized" is going to convince anyone

Powerful=Fat. That's what you're missing. Only kings and nobles could be fat during the time, I'm not saying they were the male models of the middle ages, but they were the men everyone wanted to be. Much like idealization. Umberto Eco wrote about this very thing in the History of Beauty and talked about the changing attitudes during the renaissance and Victorian era's if you actually want to read a historian's take.

Right, we're not talking about power, political or otherwise. We're talking about the physical body and what has been idealized, purely physically, throughout time. Which has never been fat.

Next you're going to try to tell me that Harvey Weinstein is the current model of male beauty since he's got power. I don't think you understand the subject we're talking about, to put it kindly.

Someone said fat men have never been idealized in all of human history and they didn't say that that was just limited to the physical realm of beauty. That, as these examples show is not true for one simple reason; for most of human a man's value has not been determined by his level of physical attraction. The look of a man simply matters less to most women than the reverse. Wealth, power, influence were historically more important. That is still idealization, it's just a realistic one. Fat guys used to be the catch.

Some of that still rings true today. If you asked me who I think is more likely to have a hot spouse, Harvey Weinstein or Rosie O'Donnell most betting people will pick the fat guy every time.

This is what the crux of the issue is, isn’t it? Men are mad that women are expressing purely physical preferences. That’s why you came into the thread complaining.

Nope I'm fine with women having purely physical preferences. It's why I cleaned up in my single days since I'm so tall. Being tall doesn't make me any inherently better of person just like large breasts don't for a woman. but there's a reason both are preferred among the opposite sex. I simply don't like the simplification of history and acting like fat men have always been hated, found disgusting and were not a catch. It does a disservice to the actual nuanced truth.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you still be attracted to him? Would you want to have sex?

My ex was fat. Like actually sloppy fat. He's even fatter now. But what made him unattractive was his personality. I stopped having sex with him because he was verbally abusive and financially controlling. It made me want to puke at the thought of giving him my body.

I actually am most attracted to husky, kinda blocky guys. I like a man with meat on his bones, but not ripped. I remarried a man who is fit, but has thickened with age and I think he's so hot.

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When I have been with heavier men I find sex more difficult. Their bellies get in the way and they aren't as agile as fit men. My husband has gained about 25 to 30 lbs. Sex is good but not like it was when he was fit.

I do not find fat men attractive.

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Anonymous wrote:The double standards between this thread and the one about fatter wives is astounding. it's ok for a wife to lose interest when he gets big, but not the other way around, got it.

Weight looks different on men and women. Never in the history of time have fat men been idealized

Except for most of human history? I have trouble believing some of you on here ever revived a higher education. Fat men were often wealthy men for most of history because they were the only ones who could afford to get fat. Seriously, go look at a museum and see what noble medieval armor looked like (hint it was built for a lot of NFL lineman in mind). This fat bast@%! literally created a new religion so his new hot plaything could become his trophy wife.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha I don't think you know what the word "idealized" means. Hint: it doesn't mean universally made fun of, as Henry VII.

I repeat: fat men have never in the history of time been idealized. Never.

"Idealized-Regard or represent as perfect or better than in reality." According to the OED I think i realize exactly what it means. Let's ask a simple question. If you had to go back in time to another life would you rather be woman with all the rights that entailed, a minority who was so well treated in that economic system, a skinny peasant thin and muscular from working his lords crops all the time or would it be a cushier life to be this fat f@#%. I'm not arguing that fat is attractive today. I'm not arguing it's healthy to be fat. I'm 6'3" and 195 so don't think is a personal front. I do however take an issue with such a blatantly stupid and false statement. For most of human history fat men were idealized, they set fashion trends ruled lands and countries. Fat used to be a symbol of power. Of plenty, abundance etc. All things we still love today, now it's just supplanted by money.

Henry the VIII wasn't widely made fun of. He was one of the most powerful monarchs of his time. Just like this fat dude

Dude. He was powerful because he was born as a king. He was widely ridiculed at the time for his obesity. For you to say his body was idealized either shows, again, a total lack of knowledge of what the word "idealized" means, or a desperate attempt to skirt the issue. This is not about did "have all fat men had horrible lives" this is about "what male figure was idealized" and the reality of that is that it has never, ever been fat men. This is contrast to fat female figures which have been idealized fairly consistently throughout history.

You asked why the double standard exists- that's part of it. It is what it is. No amount of sting pictures of Jabba the Hut and claiming because he had a slave his figure is "idealized" is going to convince anyone

Powerful=Fat. That's what you're missing. Only kings and nobles could be fat during the time, I'm not saying they were the male models of the middle ages, but they were the men everyone wanted to be. Much like idealization. Umberto Eco wrote about this very thing in the History of Beauty and talked about the changing attitudes during the renaissance and Victorian era's if you actually want to read a historian's take.

Right, we're not talking about power, political or otherwise. We're talking about the physical body and what has been idealized, purely physically, throughout time. Which has never been fat.

Next you're going to try to tell me that Harvey Weinstein is the current model of male beauty since he's got power. I don't think you understand the subject we're talking about, to put it kindly.

Someone said fat men have never been idealized in all of human history and they didn't say that that was just limited to the physical realm of beauty. That, as these examples show is not true for one simple reason; for most of human a man's value has not been determined by his level of physical attraction. The look of a man simply matters less to most women than the reverse. Wealth, power, influence were historically more important. That is still idealization, it's just a realistic one. Fat guys used to be the catch.

Some of that still rings true today. If you asked me who I think is more likely to have a hot spouse, Harvey Weinstein or Rosie O'Donnell most betting people will pick the fat guy every time.

This is what the crux of the issue is, isn’t it? Men are mad that women are expressing purely physical preferences. That’s why you came into the thread complaining.

Nope I'm fine with women having purely physical preferences. It's why I cleaned up in my single days since I'm so tall. Being tall doesn't make me any inherently better of person just like large breasts don't for a woman. but there's a reason both are preferred among the opposite sex. I simply don't like the simplification of history and acting like fat men have always been hated, found disgusting and were not a catch. It does a disservice to the actual nuanced truth.

Sure, your rage is transparent, as are your attempts to dismiss women's physical preferences.

And- no one said fat men were "hated"- you sound absolutely hysterical. The truth is the idealized male figure has never been a fat man, in contrast to the ideal female figure being fat at various times throughout history. But, you seem allergic to fact and much more comfortable trying to guilt people from talking about their preferences, so I eagerly await more whining. (btw- just because men like large breasts on women, doesn't mean women want them on a man)

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Anonymous wrote:He is fat. Gained 60 pounds since we got married 20 years ago. We do have sex but it's to maintain the marriage. I just do it to keep the peace.

Ditto my husband...married 30 years. The weight is a physical turn-off to be sure, but I'm shocked at the meanness of this thread. A married couple goes through all kinds of things together, including sickness and health and not always being our best selves. There are no guarantees when you say I do, far worse things that being overweight, and far more important things that make for a solid marriage.

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I used to be thin. I'm not any more. Chicks dug me back in the day. Guess what, they still do. It may not be as universal as it was but I'm not wanting in any way.

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Never had sex with a fat man and I don't think I'd like it.