AAP Level IV clueless question. FCPS second grader

[Anonymous]

My kid's scores were 121 composite which was 93th percentile grade and 75th percentile locally. Is there any chance at all that she will get selected through the parent application process? Is there a reason to fill out the application or not? i.e., what is the point of the parent application if it is a test driven process?

I'm fine with her ES, but all things considered, I think she would benefit from smaller classes and more one-on-one time given her personality. I think she could handle the work fine.

[Anonymous]

AAP classes are actually larger than Gen Ed classes.

[Anonymous]

AAP is generally a much larger class with much less individual attention.

The kids are expected to do a lot much more independently than gen ed and at a much faster pace.

My youngest has identical scores to what you posted. Having two other kids clasifed AAP (one center and one base level 3) and based on the limited info you posted (including wanting more idividualized instruction) AAP center placement is not what you are looking for to make your daughter a successful learner.

[Anonymous]

People can give you the "just give it a try" advice and you can do that. But, realistically, 121 isn't AAP unless you have some other test or data showing her to be in the 97th or higher.

It doesn't get said much around here -- but it's no shame to be in the top 10% of kids nationally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People can give you the "just give it a try" advice and you can do that. But, realistically, 121 isn't AAP unless you have some other test or data showing her to be in the 97th or higher.

It doesn't get said much around here -- but it's no shame to be in the top 10% of kids nationally.

AND (2nd poster here) it is also a huge confidence builder for a kid to be at or near the top academically at the base school when the highest kids leave for center.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People can give you the "just give it a try" advice and you can do that. But, realistically, 121 isn't AAP unless you have some other test or data showing her to be in the 97th or higher.

It doesn't get said much around here -- but it's no shame to be in the top 10% of kids nationally.

AND (2nd poster here) it is also a huge confidence builder for a kid to be at or near the top academically at the base school when the highest kids leave for center.

yes, OP here. Agreed. I didn't realize AAP was larger classes and I don't want her going to a different physical location. I thought her school had APP in-location. Not really sure. Yeah, top 10% nationally with zero test prep is fine with me. she is a great kid.

[Anonymous]

OP here again. I guess I don't really understand anything about AAP.

Is APP a ticket to TJ, Ivies and beyond?

Or is APP the must if you want to take AP classes at Oakton or Madison and have a decent chance at getting into W&M, UVa or VA Tech?

I'm guessing not if AAP is 97th percentile and up.

[Anonymous]

Neither of those requires AAP. It is simply a more in depth/demanding elementary and middle school experience. Different AAP programs (at different locations) have more or less homework. If you have a really good base school program, you might not see much difference with AAP. If your local school isn't great, you may see a significant difference in AAP (we did).

That said, I know kids who have gone to TJ without AAP and at least half if not more of the kids taking AP classes were not in AAP. Those are unrelated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People can give you the "just give it a try" advice and you can do that. But, realistically, 121 isn't AAP unless you have some other test or data showing her to be in the 97th or higher.

It doesn't get said much around here -- but it's no shame to be in the top 10% of kids nationally.

AND (2nd poster here) it is also a huge confidence builder for a kid to be at or near the top academically at the base school when the highest kids leave for center.

yes, OP here. Agreed. I didn't realize AAP was larger classes and I don't want her going to a different physical location. I thought her school had APP in-location. Not really sure. Yeah, top 10% nationally with zero test prep is fine with me. she is a great kid.

OP, after this month is over, ask your teacher about AAP level 3 pullouts at your school. That might be what you are thinking of. One of my kids does those and they are smaller group instruction. I think his grade has around 20 kids pulled out for level 3 instruction, compared to the center classes of aroun 32 kids that my older kid had.

You can refer for level 3 at any point for next year's placement. Level 3 does not have the same January deadline as center placement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People can give you the "just give it a try" advice and you can do that. But, realistically, 121 isn't AAP unless you have some other test or data showing her to be in the 97th or higher.

It doesn't get said much around here -- but it's no shame to be in the top 10% of kids nationally.

AND (2nd poster here) it is also a huge confidence builder for a kid to be at or near the top academically at the base school when the highest kids leave for center.

yes, OP here. Agreed. I didn't realize AAP was larger classes and I don't want her going to a different physical location. I thought her school had APP in-location. Not really sure. Yeah, top 10% nationally with zero test prep is fine with me. she is a great kid.

OP, after this month is over, ask your teacher about AAP level 3 pullouts at your school. That might be what you are thinking of. One of my kids does those and they are smaller group instruction. I think his grade has around 20 kids pulled out for level 3 instruction, compared to the center classes of aroun 32 kids that my older kid had.

You can refer for level 3 at any point for next year's placement. Level 3 does not have the same January deadline as center placement.

So level III they get more undivided attention? Why then are people clamoring for level IV? Something doesn't add up. Is this true for a principal placed level III kid?

[Anonymous]

Level III services vary from school to school. Ours is one morning per week before school. So while it may be a small group, it's really very little time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People can give you the "just give it a try" advice and you can do that. But, realistically, 121 isn't AAP unless you have some other test or data showing her to be in the 97th or higher.

It doesn't get said much around here -- but it's no shame to be in the top 10% of kids nationally.

AND (2nd poster here) it is also a huge confidence builder for a kid to be at or near the top academically at the base school when the highest kids leave for center.

yes, OP here. Agreed. I didn't realize AAP was larger classes and I don't want her going to a different physical location. I thought her school had APP in-location. Not really sure. Yeah, top 10% nationally with zero test prep is fine with me. she is a great kid.

OP, after this month is over, ask your teacher about AAP level 3 pullouts at your school. That might be what you are thinking of. One of my kids does those and they are smaller group instruction. I think his grade has around 20 kids pulled out for level 3 instruction, compared to the center classes of aroun 32 kids that my older kid had.

You can refer for level 3 at any point for next year's placement. Level 3 does not have the same January deadline as center placement.

So level III they get more undivided attention? Why then are people clamoring for level IV? Something doesn't add up. Is this true for a principal placed level III kid?

PP here.

At my base kid's school AAP is once/week pull out for about an hour. The kids refer to it as AAP.

If OP is asking for some sort of AAP that is small group instruction and individual attention, that she thinks she heard is at her school, then I bet she is talking about level 3.

If her school was LL4 or a center, she would likely be aware already that it was at her school.

[Anonymous]

No, not aware of anything. Its Oakton ES.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:AAP classes are actually larger than Gen Ed classes.

That's what I thought -- but a neighbor said our center has only 14 kids per classroom. Is that even possible? Of course, I was shocked to learn our gen Ed classes have more like 17 kids per class versus 24 in the immersion classes. :-/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AAP classes are actually larger than Gen Ed classes.

That's what I thought -- but a neighbor said our center has only 14 kids per classroom. Is that even possible? Of course, I was shocked to learn our gen Ed classes have more like 17 kids per class versus 24 in the immersion classes. :-/

Different school but the AAP classes in our school are at max capacity.