COGAT - Low Verbal score but decent composite score

[Anonymous]

We received the COGAT scores, composite of 138 but very low verbal of 102. Found from couple of my child's classmates that their score also had the same pattern, is it it normal to have such variations? My kid's verbal skills are good, it may be it's an aspect of verbal skills they were trying to asses in COGAT. Anybody noticed similar patterns in the COGAT score.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We received the COGAT scores, composite of 138 but very low verbal of 102. Found from couple of my child's classmates that their score also had the same pattern, is it it normal to have such variations? My kid's verbal skills are good, it may be it's an aspect of verbal skills they were trying to asses in COGAT. Anybody noticed similar patterns in the COGAT score.

It is creepy that you're discussing this in a non-anonymous way. I get it here, but among folks you know????

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We received the COGAT scores, composite of 138 but very low verbal of 102. Found from couple of my child's classmates that their score also had the same pattern, is it it normal to have such variations? My kid's verbal skills are good, it may be it's an aspect of verbal skills they were trying to asses in COGAT. Anybody noticed similar patterns in the COGAT score.

Could be that they read the instructions wrong or just missed something. Even if your child was stronger in math/nonverbal, I think that a difference that large would be rare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We received the COGAT scores, composite of 138 but very low verbal of 102. Found from couple of my child's classmates that their score also had the same pattern, is it it normal to have such variations? My kid's verbal skills are good, it may be it's an aspect of verbal skills they were trying to asses in COGAT. Anybody noticed similar patterns in the COGAT score.

Does not sound right, unless your child got full score on the other 2 sections. What is the age of the child when the test was taken?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We received the COGAT scores, composite of 138 but very low verbal of 102. Found from couple of my child's classmates that their score also had the same pattern, is it it normal to have such variations? My kid's verbal skills are good, it may be it's an aspect of verbal skills they were trying to asses in COGAT. Anybody noticed similar patterns in the COGAT score.

It is creepy that you're discussing this in a non-anonymous way. I get it here, but among folks you know????

Creepy? Why don't you put that special word away and save it for when it makes more sense. By the way, your use of four question marks is, um, profligate and dispiriting.

[Anonymous]

No, creepy is exactly the word I use to describe anyone who sits around an casually discusses their kid's private academic information with anyone but a spouse or family member (maybe a really, really close friend). One day your 8 year old will be 18, FFS-- and is going to be seriously pissed that the school gossip still remembers and discusses his test scores. Besides that, it's often bragging and always tacky. PS-- you should also feel free to keep your HHI to yourself.

[Anonymous]

No, creepy is exactly the word I use to describe anyone who sits around an casually discusses their kid's private academic information with anyone but a spouse or family member (maybe a really, really close friend). One day your 8 year old will be 18, FFS-- and is going to be seriously pissed that the school gossip still remembers and discusses his test scores. Besides that, it's often bragging and always tacky. You should also feel free to keep your HHI to yourself. PS-- let me guess-- you also wonder why parents in FCPS are so competitive, right? Here's a hint, this type of BS is the reason.

[Anonymous]

Agree with the poster who said it's hard to imagine getting a composite of 138 with a single score of 102. I would think that is very unusual.

FWIW, though, my DC is very strong in reading and writing and VCI was his strongest category on the WISC, but actually did better on quantitative on the COGAT. I was surprised by that, as he has less natural number sense than his brother who scored much lower. Who knows what they're testing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, creepy is exactly the word I use to describe anyone who sits around an casually discusses their kid's private academic information with anyone but a spouse or family member (maybe a really, really close friend). One day your 8 year old will be 18, FFS-- and is going to be seriously pissed that the school gossip still remembers and discusses his test scores. Besides that, it's often bragging and always tacky. PS-- you should also feel free to keep your HHI to yourself.

You are living in a fantasy world if you think a teenager is going to care about something like that or that anyone including mom is going to remember these discussions ten years from now.

What possibly is creepy is fixating on the scores and school placement of strangers' childrens to the point that you get an emotional reaction while ready a parents blog on the internet. Now THAT is creepy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Agree with the poster who said it's hard to imagine getting a composite of 138 with a single score of 102. I would think that is very unusual.

FWIW, though, my DC is very strong in reading and writing and VCI was his strongest category on the WISC, but actually did better on quantitative on the COGAT. I was surprised by that, as he has less natural number sense than his brother who scored much lower. Who knows what they're testing.

I can't believe the score, either. Something is wrong. My child's composite was 140 but to get that, he was high in all areas (a 132 and above).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree with the poster who said it's hard to imagine getting a composite of 138 with a single score of 102. I would think that is very unusual.

FWIW, though, my DC is very strong in reading and writing and VCI was his strongest category on the WISC, but actually did better on quantitative on the COGAT. I was surprised by that, as he has less natural number sense than his brother who scored much lower. Who knows what they're testing.

I can't believe the score, either. Something is wrong. My child's composite was 140 but to get that, he was high in all areas (a 132 and above).

Correction, the verbal score was 108 and not 102. It does seem strange, but she almost aced the other 2 sections.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree with the poster who said it's hard to imagine getting a composite of 138 with a single score of 102. I would think that is very unusual.

FWIW, though, my DC is very strong in reading and writing and VCI was his strongest category on the WISC, but actually did better on quantitative on the COGAT. I was surprised by that, as he has less natural number sense than his brother who scored much lower. Who knows what they're testing.

I can't believe the score, either. Something is wrong. My child's composite was 140 but to get that, he was high in all areas (a 132 and above).

Correction, the verbal score was 108 and not 102. It does seem strange, but she almost aced the other 2 sections.

I still don't get it, but I don't get how the composite is reached anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We received the COGAT scores, composite of 138 but very low verbal of 102. Found from couple of my child's classmates that their score also had the same pattern, is it it normal to have such variations? My kid's verbal skills are good, it may be it's an aspect of verbal skills they were trying to asses in COGAT. Anybody noticed similar patterns in the COGAT score.

Exactly how many

[Anonymous]

What are the other two scores?

[Anonymous]

I am wondering if OP's child missed a page in the booklet or somehow didn't answer a lot of questions? I would be inclined to pay for a WISC if my child was like that and seemed to be getting along pretty well with reading at school.

If that score on verbal holds true, I would be worried about putting my kid in AAP. It is very language intensive. That is not my child's strong suit (the one who got in... the one who didn't get in had a 149 verbal but more like a 118 quant). Anyway.... I would hesitate to put a kid in AAP with a 108 verbal.... what percentile is that for local? I think my AAP kid was 95th percentile national and 92nd local. He has a bit of a challenge when it comes to the writing -- but he does pretty well with the spelling/meanings and reading.