Anonymous wrote:Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but no top D1 program is going to let a player major in engineering.
If you want to pursue engineering, you should be looking mainly at D3
+1 Wondering if people are just replying from recent topics who have no clue about athletic recruiting.
Not true. I was a heavily recruited D1 athlete and coaches had no say in my major. And we had engineering majors on athletic scholarships on my team.
OK genius. How many students on UVA men lacrosse roster major in Engineering in 2022-2023? Last time I checked, NONE. There are 50 players on the roster, and even if you have two players who major in Engineering, that's about 4%. It is almost impossible to study STEM while being a D1 athlete. Those that did are both incredible smarts and unbelievable work ethics.
It is like saying "Bryce Young" is a Heisman trophy winner and is also a STEM major. Not going to happen.
I would not base anything on the UVA lax roster. UVA isn’t even an engineering school. Those kids are likely destined for commercial real estate or finance. Seven players on Stanford’s women’s lacrosse team have declared a major and 4 are engineers. Choosing an easier major to be able to play lacrosse is so incredibly short sighted and I would not play for a team requiring that. It’s not like anyone is going to have a lacrosse career after college.
UVA is not an engineering school? Say who? Look at Virginia Tech lax roster and see how many of them are majoring in engineering or Computer Science, likely none.
Anonymous wrote:It really depends on the level of competition. Michigan, Johns Hopkins, Duke, Air Force, Naval Academy, West Point. Ohio State, and UVA for D1.The rankings also are dependent on engineering disciplines.
There are really good engineering schools that offer club programs.
Do people even read the OP's topic? The OP specifically said Aerospace Engineering - Duke, UVA and Hopkins don't even had departments for that. As an engineering graduate from one of those schools, I wouldn't really recommend any of them for someone that is only thinking about getting a Bach of Science in engineering. Those schools lean more to the theoretical end of the academic spectrum and want their students to work toward a master or Ph.D. over just an undergrad degree.
UM, OSU and the Academies obviously do (though AFA and USNA are head and shoulders better engineering schools than Army). They also lean more toward the practical end of the engineering education for those students that want a BS and go work somewhere right after school.
Most of the best aerospace departments are out west - think Stanford, ASU, Cal Tech etc. or big state schools like Purdue, UT, TAMU, etc. Most of those schools only have club teams. That doesn't mean they aren't good lax programs just they don't play in the NCAAs and you pay club fees to pay rather than just be on the team like for D1, D2, or D3.
You might also want to think about D3 schools that might lean toward the liberal arts but offer 3/2 programs. Those are programs where you attend the school and earn a BA degree in 3 years in the major of the students choice and then get a BS from another school in your engineering field. I have no idea if schools that F&M affiliates with have aerospace programing but here is F&M's info on it. https://www.fandm.edu/ospgd/stem-professions/engineering-professions-advising Other more liberal art D3 schools have similar programs.
Not true, a good family friend's son is a a lacrosse player who attended UVA in Engineering with a focus on aerospace and now secured a great job at Northrup Grumman.
UVA doesn't have a specific aerospace department. Sure, there maybe some classes but it isn't like going to a school with a specific aerospace engineering major. As for Northup Grumman, you do know they do more than just airplanes, right? He could be in any number of fields that might require some aerospace knowledge but use his other background.
Anonymous wrote:It really depends on the level of competition. Michigan, Johns Hopkins, Duke, Air Force, Naval Academy, West Point. Ohio State, and UVA for D1.The rankings also are dependent on engineering disciplines.
There are really good engineering schools that offer club programs.
Do people even read the OP's topic? The OP specifically said Aerospace Engineering - Duke, UVA and Hopkins don't even had departments for that. As an engineering graduate from one of those schools, I wouldn't really recommend any of them for someone that is only thinking about getting a Bach of Science in engineering. Those schools lean more to the theoretical end of the academic spectrum and want their students to work toward a master or Ph.D. over just an undergrad degree.
UM, OSU and the Academies obviously do (though AFA and USNA are head and shoulders better engineering schools than Army). They also lean more toward the practical end of the engineering education for those students that want a BS and go work somewhere right after school.
Most of the best aerospace departments are out west - think Stanford, ASU, Cal Tech etc. or big state schools like Purdue, UT, TAMU, etc. Most of those schools only have club teams. That doesn't mean they aren't good lax programs just they don't play in the NCAAs and you pay club fees to pay rather than just be on the team like for D1, D2, or D3.
You might also want to think about D3 schools that might lean toward the liberal arts but offer 3/2 programs. Those are programs where you attend the school and earn a BA degree in 3 years in the major of the students choice and then get a BS from another school in your engineering field. I have no idea if schools that F&M affiliates with have aerospace programing but here is F&M's info on it. https://www.fandm.edu/ospgd/stem-professions/engineering-professions-advising Other more liberal art D3 schools have similar programs.
Not true, a good family friend's son is a a lacrosse player who attended UVA in Engineering with a focus on aerospace and now secured a great job at Northrup Grumman.
UVA doesn't have a specific aerospace department. Sure, there maybe some classes but it isn't like going to a school with a specific aerospace engineering major. As for Northup Grumman, you do know they do more than just airplanes, right? He could be in any number of fields that might require some aerospace knowledge but use his other background.
Aerospace Engineering Program
Graduates of the Aerospace Engineering program at the University of Virginia have the knowledge, skills and attitudes that will allow them to make tangible contributions, meet new technical challenges, contribute effectively as team members, and be innovators in the analysis, design and implementation of creative solutions to problems with aerospace vehicle systems. They communicate effectively and interact responsibly with colleagues, clients, employers and society.
Aerospace engineering is a highly specialized, yet widely diverse field. Aerospace engineers are involved in such varied and exciting activities as enabling hypersonic flight, sending a spacecraft to Mars, designing an artificial heart, and improving tomorrow’s automobiles. We have come a long way since the Wright brothers at Kitty Hawk. In just a few short years, we have converted aviation from daredevil and barnstorming adventures to a safe, fast, and widely used mode of transportation. There is every reason to believe that the next fifty years will bring about even more dramatic advances, and UVa is playing a major role. With the increasing need for high-speed civil transport or more efficient, higher performance commercial and military aircraft, Aerospace Engineering will continue to offer ample opportunities for careers and advancement.
The Undergraduate Curriculum
The Aerospace Engineering curriculum provides a thorough background in fluid dynamics, structures, propulsion, controls, flight dynamics and design. The curriculum provides flexibility with regard to all areas of potential aerospace practice by emphasizing applied science, design, and technology while providing a firm foundation in mathematics and physics. With a strong science and mathematics based education, aerospace engineers have also found employment opportunities outside of the traditional aerospace industry. Many work in oceanography, biotechnology, weather prediction, energy conservation, and in the petrochemical, nuclear or automotive industries. In addition, the aerospace design provides an excellent background for business, law or medicine. Of course, people with the ambition to become pilots, either military or commercial, find the aerospace degree very attractive.
Aerospace engineering principles are reinforced and integrated through design assignments and significant “hands-on” experience with the latest in test equipment and modern experimental methods. A two-semester lab sequence in the third year builds on a basic skills and science background to develop an appreciation for measurement techniques and apparatus as well as to demonstrate aerodynamic concepts. Students also develop communications skills and learn about the complex cultural, legal, ethical and economic factors which influence the engineering profession. Students who wish to may select courses that satisfy the requirements of a minor area of study (e.g., mechanical, bio-medical, environmental management, economics).
Aircraft Design
The 4th year aerospace undergraduates spend the year designing an aerospace vehicle. This experience is a culmination of all the engineering courses that they have taken at UVa. The image below is a supersonic commercial airliner, designed to fly overland at supersonic speeds with low sonic boom. This design won first place in a national NASA aircraft design competition.
While many courses in the program contain elements of design, the curriculum is capped by a year-long design course. This course brings together most of the aerospace subjects taken and requires the students, working in teams, to demonstrate their creativity as well as their basic knowledge. The course is often culminated by the public presentation of the final aircraft design to a panel of judges and by entry in a national competition. Our students continue to excel at such competitions (1st place in 2009 and 3rd place in 2010 in the NASA’s National Aircraft Design Student Competition).
Research
Research Experience for Undergraduates Research is an important component of our undergraduate program in Aerospace Engineering. Many students are involved in hands-on research in one of the many active research laboratories within the department, either as paid research assistants or eager volunteers.
From the Aerospace Research Lab, to the Morphing Structures Lab, or the Combustion Lab—-opportunities abound. Our students have won more Harrison Research Awards than any other department in SEAS, as a testament to the many excellent opportunities that exist. Many students even begin this research in their second or third year, preparing them for outstanding senior thesis projects. Twice over the last decade a UVa 4th-year has been recognized as the outstanding aerospace student in the US, and numerous times a student has been recognized as the outstanding student in the mid-Atlantic region by the Sigma Gamma Tau Aerospace Honor Society.
Anonymous wrote:It really depends on the level of competition. Michigan, Johns Hopkins, Duke, Air Force, Naval Academy, West Point. Ohio State, and UVA for D1.The rankings also are dependent on engineering disciplines.
There are really good engineering schools that offer club programs.
Do people even read the OP's topic? The OP specifically said Aerospace Engineering - Duke, UVA and Hopkins don't even had departments for that. As an engineering graduate from one of those schools, I wouldn't really recommend any of them for someone that is only thinking about getting a Bach of Science in engineering. Those schools lean more to the theoretical end of the academic spectrum and want their students to work toward a master or Ph.D. over just an undergrad degree.
UM, OSU and the Academies obviously do (though AFA and USNA are head and shoulders better engineering schools than Army). They also lean more toward the practical end of the engineering education for those students that want a BS and go work somewhere right after school.
Most of the best aerospace departments are out west - think Stanford, ASU, Cal Tech etc. or big state schools like Purdue, UT, TAMU, etc. Most of those schools only have club teams. That doesn't mean they aren't good lax programs just they don't play in the NCAAs and you pay club fees to pay rather than just be on the team like for D1, D2, or D3.
You might also want to think about D3 schools that might lean toward the liberal arts but offer 3/2 programs. Those are programs where you attend the school and earn a BA degree in 3 years in the major of the students choice and then get a BS from another school in your engineering field. I have no idea if schools that F&M affiliates with have aerospace programing but here is F&M's info on it. https://www.fandm.edu/ospgd/stem-professions/engineering-professions-advising Other more liberal art D3 schools have similar programs.
Not true, a good family friend's son is a a lacrosse player who attended UVA in Engineering with a focus on aerospace and now secured a great job at Northrup Grumman.
UVA doesn't have a specific aerospace department. Sure, there maybe some classes but it isn't like going to a school with a specific aerospace engineering major. As for Northup Grumman, you do know they do more than just airplanes, right? He could be in any number of fields that might require some aerospace knowledge but use his other background.
Aerospace Engineering Program
Graduates of the Aerospace Engineering program at the University of Virginia have the knowledge, skills and attitudes that will allow them to make tangible contributions, meet new technical challenges, contribute effectively as team members, and be innovators in the analysis, design and implementation of creative solutions to problems with aerospace vehicle systems. They communicate effectively and interact responsibly with colleagues, clients, employers and society.
Aerospace engineering is a highly specialized, yet widely diverse field. Aerospace engineers are involved in such varied and exciting activities as enabling hypersonic flight, sending a spacecraft to Mars, designing an artificial heart, and improving tomorrow’s automobiles. We have come a long way since the Wright brothers at Kitty Hawk. In just a few short years, we have converted aviation from daredevil and barnstorming adventures to a safe, fast, and widely used mode of transportation. There is every reason to believe that the next fifty years will bring about even more dramatic advances, and UVa is playing a major role. With the increasing need for high-speed civil transport or more efficient, higher performance commercial and military aircraft, Aerospace Engineering will continue to offer ample opportunities for careers and advancement.
The Undergraduate Curriculum
The Aerospace Engineering curriculum provides a thorough background in fluid dynamics, structures, propulsion, controls, flight dynamics and design. The curriculum provides flexibility with regard to all areas of potential aerospace practice by emphasizing applied science, design, and technology while providing a firm foundation in mathematics and physics. With a strong science and mathematics based education, aerospace engineers have also found employment opportunities outside of the traditional aerospace industry. Many work in oceanography, biotechnology, weather prediction, energy conservation, and in the petrochemical, nuclear or automotive industries. In addition, the aerospace design provides an excellent background for business, law or medicine. Of course, people with the ambition to become pilots, either military or commercial, find the aerospace degree very attractive.
Aerospace engineering principles are reinforced and integrated through design assignments and significant “hands-on” experience with the latest in test equipment and modern experimental methods. A two-semester lab sequence in the third year builds on a basic skills and science background to develop an appreciation for measurement techniques and apparatus as well as to demonstrate aerodynamic concepts. Students also develop communications skills and learn about the complex cultural, legal, ethical and economic factors which influence the engineering profession. Students who wish to may select courses that satisfy the requirements of a minor area of study (e.g., mechanical, bio-medical, environmental management, economics).
Aircraft Design
The 4th year aerospace undergraduates spend the year designing an aerospace vehicle. This experience is a culmination of all the engineering courses that they have taken at UVa. The image below is a supersonic commercial airliner, designed to fly overland at supersonic speeds with low sonic boom. This design won first place in a national NASA aircraft design competition.
While many courses in the program contain elements of design, the curriculum is capped by a year-long design course. This course brings together most of the aerospace subjects taken and requires the students, working in teams, to demonstrate their creativity as well as their basic knowledge. The course is often culminated by the public presentation of the final aircraft design to a panel of judges and by entry in a national competition. Our students continue to excel at such competitions (1st place in 2009 and 3rd place in 2010 in the NASA’s National Aircraft Design Student Competition).
Research
Research Experience for Undergraduates Research is an important component of our undergraduate program in Aerospace Engineering. Many students are involved in hands-on research in one of the many active research laboratories within the department, either as paid research assistants or eager volunteers.
From the Aerospace Research Lab, to the Morphing Structures Lab, or the Combustion Lab—-opportunities abound. Our students have won more Harrison Research Awards than any other department in SEAS, as a testament to the many excellent opportunities that exist. Many students even begin this research in their second or third year, preparing them for outstanding senior thesis projects. Twice over the last decade a UVa 4th-year has been recognized as the outstanding aerospace student in the US, and numerous times a student has been recognized as the outstanding student in the mid-Atlantic region by the Sigma Gamma Tau Aerospace Honor Society.
Interesting...still not a department and with a departments comes sizeable amount of money to said program. Notice how UVA engineering part of the school (and I'd agree that it isn't a well known engineering school) has specific departments like Civil, Biomedical, etc. That's what the poster was asking.
Anonymous wrote:It really depends on the level of competition. Michigan, Johns Hopkins, Duke, Air Force, Naval Academy, West Point. Ohio State, and UVA for D1.The rankings also are dependent on engineering disciplines.
There are really good engineering schools that offer club programs.
Do people even read the OP's topic? The OP specifically said Aerospace Engineering - Duke, UVA and Hopkins don't even had departments for that. As an engineering graduate from one of those schools, I wouldn't really recommend any of them for someone that is only thinking about getting a Bach of Science in engineering. Those schools lean more to the theoretical end of the academic spectrum and want their students to work toward a master or Ph.D. over just an undergrad degree.
UM, OSU and the Academies obviously do (though AFA and USNA are head and shoulders better engineering schools than Army). They also lean more toward the practical end of the engineering education for those students that want a BS and go work somewhere right after school.
Most of the best aerospace departments are out west - think Stanford, ASU, Cal Tech etc. or big state schools like Purdue, UT, TAMU, etc. Most of those schools only have club teams. That doesn't mean they aren't good lax programs just they don't play in the NCAAs and you pay club fees to pay rather than just be on the team like for D1, D2, or D3.
You might also want to think about D3 schools that might lean toward the liberal arts but offer 3/2 programs. Those are programs where you attend the school and earn a BA degree in 3 years in the major of the students choice and then get a BS from another school in your engineering field. I have no idea if schools that F&M affiliates with have aerospace programing but here is F&M's info on it. https://www.fandm.edu/ospgd/stem-professions/engineering-professions-advising Other more liberal art D3 schools have similar programs.
Not true, a good family friend's son is a a lacrosse player who attended UVA in Engineering with a focus on aerospace and now secured a great job at Northrup Grumman.
UVA doesn't have a specific aerospace department. Sure, there maybe some classes but it isn't like going to a school with a specific aerospace engineering major. As for Northup Grumman, you do know they do more than just airplanes, right? He could be in any number of fields that might require some aerospace knowledge but use his other background.
Aerospace Engineering Program
Graduates of the Aerospace Engineering program at the University of Virginia have the knowledge, skills and attitudes that will allow them to make tangible contributions, meet new technical challenges, contribute effectively as team members, and be innovators in the analysis, design and implementation of creative solutions to problems with aerospace vehicle systems. They communicate effectively and interact responsibly with colleagues, clients, employers and society.
Aerospace engineering is a highly specialized, yet widely diverse field. Aerospace engineers are involved in such varied and exciting activities as enabling hypersonic flight, sending a spacecraft to Mars, designing an artificial heart, and improving tomorrow’s automobiles. We have come a long way since the Wright brothers at Kitty Hawk. In just a few short years, we have converted aviation from daredevil and barnstorming adventures to a safe, fast, and widely used mode of transportation. There is every reason to believe that the next fifty years will bring about even more dramatic advances, and UVa is playing a major role. With the increasing need for high-speed civil transport or more efficient, higher performance commercial and military aircraft, Aerospace Engineering will continue to offer ample opportunities for careers and advancement.
The Undergraduate Curriculum
The Aerospace Engineering curriculum provides a thorough background in fluid dynamics, structures, propulsion, controls, flight dynamics and design. The curriculum provides flexibility with regard to all areas of potential aerospace practice by emphasizing applied science, design, and technology while providing a firm foundation in mathematics and physics. With a strong science and mathematics based education, aerospace engineers have also found employment opportunities outside of the traditional aerospace industry. Many work in oceanography, biotechnology, weather prediction, energy conservation, and in the petrochemical, nuclear or automotive industries. In addition, the aerospace design provides an excellent background for business, law or medicine. Of course, people with the ambition to become pilots, either military or commercial, find the aerospace degree very attractive.
Aerospace engineering principles are reinforced and integrated through design assignments and significant “hands-on” experience with the latest in test equipment and modern experimental methods. A two-semester lab sequence in the third year builds on a basic skills and science background to develop an appreciation for measurement techniques and apparatus as well as to demonstrate aerodynamic concepts. Students also develop communications skills and learn about the complex cultural, legal, ethical and economic factors which influence the engineering profession. Students who wish to may select courses that satisfy the requirements of a minor area of study (e.g., mechanical, bio-medical, environmental management, economics).
Aircraft Design
The 4th year aerospace undergraduates spend the year designing an aerospace vehicle. This experience is a culmination of all the engineering courses that they have taken at UVa. The image below is a supersonic commercial airliner, designed to fly overland at supersonic speeds with low sonic boom. This design won first place in a national NASA aircraft design competition.
While many courses in the program contain elements of design, the curriculum is capped by a year-long design course. This course brings together most of the aerospace subjects taken and requires the students, working in teams, to demonstrate their creativity as well as their basic knowledge. The course is often culminated by the public presentation of the final aircraft design to a panel of judges and by entry in a national competition. Our students continue to excel at such competitions (1st place in 2009 and 3rd place in 2010 in the NASA’s National Aircraft Design Student Competition).
Research
Research Experience for Undergraduates Research is an important component of our undergraduate program in Aerospace Engineering. Many students are involved in hands-on research in one of the many active research laboratories within the department, either as paid research assistants or eager volunteers.
From the Aerospace Research Lab, to the Morphing Structures Lab, or the Combustion Lab—-opportunities abound. Our students have won more Harrison Research Awards than any other department in SEAS, as a testament to the many excellent opportunities that exist. Many students even begin this research in their second or third year, preparing them for outstanding senior thesis projects. Twice over the last decade a UVa 4th-year has been recognized as the outstanding aerospace student in the US, and numerous times a student has been recognized as the outstanding student in the mid-Atlantic region by the Sigma Gamma Tau Aerospace Honor Society.
Interesting...still not a department and with a departments comes sizeable amount of money to said program. Notice how UVA engineering part of the school (and I'd agree that it isn't a well known engineering school) has specific departments like Civil, Biomedical, etc. That's what the poster was asking.
UVA offers a BS in Aerospace Engineering accredited by the ABET. You're wrong, stop digging.
Anonymous wrote:Again, is D3 really less demanding than D1? Yes D1 are better players but do they spend more hours/week working out and practicing than D3?
Yes, why is this surprising to you? Not only is there a lot more hours of practice, there tends to be a lot more travel.
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