If your base school has a local Level IV program,

[Anonymous]

are they still willing to support those in-pool students to move to the center? Or do they try to keep "good" students in the local school?

[Anonymous]

I'm confused by your first question. (I understand the second one, and yes, I'd say my LLIV school promoted itself and its abilities highly once the eligibility determinations were made and the open house was held. And I can't blame them one bit!) But the first question asks about in-pool student support. Support for what?

My LLIV school supports it students. We kept my child there, but if we'd elected to send him to the center, I wouldn't expect any "support" from the LLIV school from 3rd grade onward, because he'd no longer be one of their students. I think I've misunderstood the question. Can you be more specific about what you mean by "support"?

[Anonymous]

Yes you misunderstood the first question. "Support" means local school will try their best to prepare packages for their in-pool students for the incoming screening procedure.

[Anonymous]

Our base school now has a LLIV program, but did not when my DC#1 went into AAP. They were extremely supportive for DC#1 to go to the center. When DC#2 was found eligible, however, they had started LLIV. The base school was less supportive of DC#2 going to the center because they wanted to keep DC#2 there. I really felt like I was no longer welcome after I decided DC was not going there - even thought the main reason was so that both of my children were in the same school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our base school now has a LLIV program, but did not when my DC#1 went into AAP. They were extremely supportive for DC#1 to go to the center. When DC#2 was found eligible, however, they had started LLIV. The base school was less supportive of DC#2 going to the center because they wanted to keep DC#2 there. I really felt like I was no longer welcome after I decided DC was not going there - even thought the main reason was so that both of my children were in the same school.

How do you know they were not supportive? Did you get phone calls? Emails? When do you typically have to make the decision to choose between a Local Level IV and a Center? We'd most likely go to the Center for a variety of reasons, but I don't want to feel pressure from our school once I turn in my decision.

[Anonymous]

No, our local level iv sold itself and approximately 1/4 of the kids went to the Center, 3/4 stayed. It is an extremely robust local level iv class with no principal designees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:are they still willing to support those in-pool students to move to the center? Or do they try to keep "good" students in the local school?

What's a "good" student?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, our local level iv sold itself and approximately 1/4 of the kids went to the Center, 3/4 stayed. It is an extremely robust local level iv class with no principal designees.

Same for our LLIV. I wonder if we're the same school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My LLIV school supports it students. We kept my child there, but if we'd elected to send him to the center, I wouldn't expect any "support" from the LLIV school from 3rd grade onward, because he'd no longer be one of their students.

+1

The AART at our base school did her best to put a great screening file together for consideration by the central screening committee. When we learned that DC was found Center-eligible, we went to open houses at the Center and the base school (for Local Level IV).

At our base school, most families opt for the Center instead of staying for Local Level IV.

[Anonymous]

Our base school has a LLIV program. Many kids qualify for level IV and unfortunately many of those race to the center even though the base program is a good one with at least one excellent teacher out of four. I would say two more are quite good and the fourth is fine, from what I have heard. I don't understand how people can think that schools would try to "keep their kids" by lowering their GBRS or by not giving good work samples.
The process is subjective, but there is no way schools would purposely do it so that kids don't qualify and have to stay at their base school. I highly doubt any of our kids are so special that our schools identify them as keeper and want to prevent them from qualifying.

[Anonymous]

I never thought about the brain drain part.. our school has a level IV but I wonder if DC got in and we sent him to the center if this would hurt our second child if he also makes the pool.

[Anonymous]

I think the OP's question misunderstands the local school's role in the selection process.

If your local school has Level IV AAP, the school will be motivated to make sure enough of their own students get in to AAP (so that they can fill their class, and also tout the strength of their own AAP program so that they can "compete" with the Center school).

This means they will be highly motivated to produce high quality files that are sent off to the County for AAP selection process.

When the local school sends these packets off, they have no idea which students (if selected) will choose the local school, and which will choose the Center school. So there really is no way for them to game the system.

Once the AAP selections are made, it is completely 100% up to the parent to decide whether the child will attend the Center or the Local program. The local school has no power over that decision (other than the power of persuasion).

At that point, it is really irrelevant whether the local school "supports" the child going to the center or not. The decision is up to the parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our base school has a LLIV program. Many kids qualify for level IV and unfortunately many of those race to the center even though the base program is a good one with at least one excellent teacher out of four. I would say two more are quite good and the fourth is fine, from what I have heard. I don't understand how people can think that schools would try to "keep their kids" by lowering their GBRS or by not giving good work samples.
The process is subjective, but there is no way schools would purposely do it so that kids don't qualify and have to stay at their base school. I highly doubt any of our kids are so special that our schools identify them as keeper and want to prevent them from qualifying.

Oh yes they would. And yes they do. Experienced it first hand!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the OP's question misunderstands the local school's role in the selection process.

If your local school has Level IV AAP, the school will be motivated to make sure enough of their own students get in to AAP (so that they can fill their class, and also tout the strength of their own AAP program so that they can "compete" with the Center school).

This means they will be highly motivated to produce high quality files that are sent off to the County for AAP selection process.

When the local school sends these packets off, they have no idea which students (if selected) will choose the local school, and which will choose the Center school. So there really is no way for them to game the system.

Once the AAP selections are made, it is completely 100% up to the parent to decide whether the child will attend the Center or the Local program. The local school has no power over that decision (other than the power of persuasion).

At that point, it is really irrelevant whether the local school "supports" the child going to the center or not. The decision is up to the parent.

Agree 100%. That's why I don't get what kind of "support" the OP was actually expecting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:are they still willing to support those in-pool students to move to the center? Or do they try to keep "good" students in the local school?

What's a "good" student?

What's a dumb question?