Anyone become a member of LDS (Mormon) Church?

[Anonymous]

Ever noticed that there are no preschools in the basements of Mormon churches? It's because they want small kids home with their mothers and, and this is the bigger reason, they don't want to risk having Mormon mothers leaving the home to work at them. They think church nursery schools harm families. (Though, of course, Mormons are allowed to send their kids to preschools in general.)

[Anonymous]

Or they bring the children in with them to the Sunday meeting hall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't drink alcohol, smoke, or do drugs. I drink decaf coffee. I put my family first. I don't need religion to guide my values but I do appreciate the fact that Mormons don't drink. The world would be better without alcohol. I also think that all religions devide people though.[/quote]Ever heard of Jack Mormons?
Mormons who drink

Not quite true. It refers to a lapsed Mormon who believes in all the wild stuff but doesn't practice the religion. He's still culturally friendly with the close-knit Mormon community but doesn't attend services. He doesn't have temple privileges. When he dies he will not go to the Celestial (no. 1) heaven. He may or may not drink. But, frequently, when Mormons "go bad" they go bad seriously, as did my ex-bro. in law. Drinking, gambling, women, lying, failure to pay child support (a must to get a Temple Recommend), etc.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_mormon

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I met some Mormon guys at my last job. One thing that was striking was that they were children of, or married to people that had converted and came to this country. One guy was converted in Brazil and was sponsored by Mormon family in Utah to study at BYU. Another one, his mom was Mormon from Brazil. He married a convert from Ireland.

None of their wives worked outside the home. They seem little chauvinistic and would flirt with women at the office. I think one was having an affair. It's like an exclusive club. If you put BYU on your job resume, you will have a good chance of getting an interview.

I don't doubt you, but I just wanted to note that this is completely the opposite of every mormon man I've met (which is not tons, but at least a solid handful). All were really, really nice guys. Not flirtatious in the least, but still friendly. Didn't come off as chauvinist, either. Of course, they very well may have had private beliefs that they just kept to themselves, but I knew several Mormons in law school, and I never a got a "you don't belong here" kind of vibe. I remember one guy mentioning that his wife considered herself to be a feminist, and he said it without any sort derision (and I think it was in a conversation about how it was possible to hold some values typically thought to be "liberal" in the LDS faith, but I don't recall specifics).

Overall, every Momon I've met has been a very, very nice person. I'm secularly Christian and very liberal, but I'm also perfectly happy to spend time with people who have different political or religious views, as long as I don't feel like they're pushy about them, or feel judged around them.

DH jokes that the Mormons are going to take over the US with their large families, and because they're such nice people, no one will see it coming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I met some Mormon guys at my last job. One thing that was striking was that they were children of, or married to people that had converted and came to this country. One guy was converted in Brazil and was sponsored by Mormon family in Utah to study at BYU. Another one, his mom was Mormon from Brazil. He married a convert from Ireland.

None of their wives worked outside the home. They seem little chauvinistic and would flirt with women at the office. I think one was having an affair. It's like an exclusive club. If you put BYU on your job resume, you will have a good chance of getting an interview.

I don't doubt you, but I just wanted to note that this is completely the opposite of every mormon man I've met (which is not tons, but at least a solid handful). All were really, really nice guys. Not flirtatious in the least, but still friendly. Didn't come off as chauvinist, either. Of course, they very well may have had private beliefs that they just kept to themselves, but I knew several Mormons in law school, and I never a got a "you don't belong here" kind of vibe. I remember one guy mentioning that his wife considered herself to be a feminist, and he said it without any sort derision (and I think it was in a conversation about how it was possible to hold some values typically thought to be "liberal" in the LDS faith, but I don't recall specifics).

Overall, every Momon I've met has been a very, very nice person. I'm secularly Christian and very liberal, but I'm also perfectly happy to spend time with people who have different political or religious views, as long as I don't feel like they're pushy about them, or feel judged around them.

DH jokes that the Mormons are going to take over the US with their large families, and because they're such nice people, no one will see it coming.

+1. I met a number of Mormon guys (never women) in law school and in college. All were very nice guys and came across open minded -- I think they had their private views on wife, family, religion etc. but they got that there is a time and place and they didn't seem like they were judging others' life choices. In chatting with them some over the years, I got the view that many LDS (most?) see themselves as ambassadors of their faith. Even if they aren't trying to convert you, it is important for them that you were left with a nice/good image of LDS bc their view is -- if everyone thought LDS people were rude, mean, etc. who would ever consider the faith. I have a feeling there was some of that at play in college and law school -- at the east coast ivy schools, they saw themselves as having a "responsibility" to represent their faith the "right" way to people who maybe had never spent time around any LDS.

That being said almost all went back to Utah or Idaho, started their own businesses, and have little to do with their friends from school. I don't think it's a matter of -- we can't be friends because you aren't living your life in a Godly way -- though who knows. I just think they have a certain view on what is right or wrong and if you don't live that way -- marrying young; lots of kids; church being your primary activity outside of work etc., then they don't have that much of interest/time for you. I have a non-LDS friend who moved to Utah for work and felt the same way. He lived in a development where every home on the cul de sac was LDS and the men (bc my friend is a single man) all stopped by to welcome him, invited him to participate in neighborhood things at first etc. but after a while it became apparent that church was 99% of their life and if he wasn't interesting in learning more about it, they didn't have time to "waste" watching the game with him -- but they were all still nice to him, just not friends.

[Anonymous]

Is there a prohibition in the LDS church of not spending too much time with/being friends with non-LDS? Or is it just a cultural thing? I.E. Is it a belief that faith will be deluded if you're around others and you'll be tempted to drink/drink coffee etc.

You see it in most faiths -- orthodox Muslims mostly socialize with each other in part bc it makes it easier when it's time to stop hanging out to go pray etc; though I know plenty of non-orthodox from every faith who hang out with everyone regardless of religion. Is it similar for LDS or is it just bc they spend so much time in church that between work, family, and church there really is no time for anyone else?

[Anonymous]

I would have difficulty with the underwear...

[Anonymous]

We lived in a town in Utah that was about 90% Mormon, and it really, really turned me off from the religion. We learned a lot about it, though.

One, it was ridiculous the amount of 'work' the wives had done to make themselves look nice for their husbands. My daughter was a middle schooler while we were there and it was seen as pretty much a normal thing, as in "Oh yeah, my mom's having her surgery today..." This surprised me a lot, as I always thought of Mormons as being rather modest, non-concerned-with-appearances type people.

As a whole, the group was very, very insular. My husband and I are very outgoing people, and have not ever had issues making friends wherever we've lived. There, however, it was so difficult. We'd sit out on the patio with a beer or glass of wine and could literally see the neighbors go inside and shut their blinds. It was definitely unlike anything I've ever seen. My daughter was elected captain of the soccer team and it was questioned whether or not she should really be captain since she's not Mormon. So much of their lives revolved around church, it was difficult to be a 'part' of it if you weren't Mormon.

While I'm sure there are some fine Mormons out there, living in an area with so.dang.many of them really made the religion look unattractive to me. There are lots and lots religions and groups that offer morals and families without being so insular.

[Anonymous]

If you come from a traditional Christian experience, being Mormon will be difficult. They have a view on Christ that is completely different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think being as Mormon is logistically difficult, especially in a large city. You are supposed to marry young and have lots of kids, but if you have lots of kids, you need a good income, so you need college and grad school, but it's hard to do that if you marry young and have lots of kids. If you are a woman, you are supposed to get a college degree that you never use, as you can't work with eight kids. In addition to all of these work and family responsibilities, you are supposed to go to church, be a home teacher, lead a scout troop, and take a turn leading your church. You do all of this while tithing and saving for your sons' missions (at 20 k apiece), in addition to saving for college and retirement.

They set standards that few can meet.

So much better to be a worker drone who lives in a DC condo, never gets married, never has kids, and never gives back to the community except for maybe doing the AIDS walk every other year. Your employers will like you much better than those religious co-workers with "commitments," at least until they don't need you any longer, and then you realize you're the one who has really been in the cult for the last umpteen years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:in mormonism, you're supposed to actually believe that stuff.

It's a relatively new religion, remember, and it's still in the fundamentalist stage.

Mormons don't even use the term "believe"- they say that they"know" certain things are true.

Religion is religion.

Judaism is no better than Mormonism or any other religion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in mormonism, you're supposed to actually believe that stuff.

It's a relatively new religion, remember, and it's still in the fundamentalist stage.

Mormons don't even use the term "believe"- they say that they"know" certain things are true.

Religion is religion.

Judaism is no better than Mormonism or any other religion.

This comment is nonsensical.

[Anonymous]

"They set standards that few can meet."

Jodi Arias met the standards for conversion...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think being as Mormon is logistically difficult, especially in a large city. You are supposed to marry young and have lots of kids, but if you have lots of kids, you need a good income, so you need college and grad school, but it's hard to do that if you marry young and have lots of kids. If you are a woman, you are supposed to get a college degree that you never use, as you can't work with eight kids. In addition to all of these work and family responsibilities, you are supposed to go to church, be a home teacher, lead a scout troop, and take a turn leading your church. You do all of this while tithing and saving for your sons' missions (at 20 k apiece), in addition to saving for college and retirement.

They set standards that few can meet.

So much better to be a worker drone who lives in a DC condo, never gets married, never has kids, and never gives back to the community except for maybe doing the AIDS walk every other year. Your employers will like you much better than those religious co-workers with "commitments," at least until they don't need you any longer, and then you realize you're the one who has really been in the cult for the last umpteen years.

that's it -- you totally sold me on Mormonism!


haha just joking

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:in mormonism, you're supposed to actually believe that stuff.

It's a relatively new religion, remember, and it's still in the fundamentalist stage.

Mormons don't even use the term "believe"- they say that they"know" certain things are true.

Religion is religion.

Judaism is no better than Mormonism or any other religion.

This comment is nonsensical.

Beg to disagree. It's perfectly true. The tenets on LDS are no more silly or unbelievable than the tenets of Christianity, Judiasm, Islam. Myths and rules designed to control behavior and funnel money to the clergy.