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Well, that's what I was thinking! Thanks for that!
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Anonymous
I know I should just ignore these comments, but they still burn my butt. I am a vegetarian who intended on breastfeeding until a medical condition surfaced almost immediately after labor. I had to be put on medication right away. although the docs told me that breastfeeding while on that med would "probably" be OK, I didn't want to take the risk. so am I formula-feeding, glad that there are so many options for parents (including vegetarian/vegan parents) who formula-feed. |
Anonymous
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One thing to be aware of with soy is that a large percentage (most?) soy grown in the U.S. is genetically modified. The geniuses at Monsanto Corp. created "Roundup Ready" soybeans so that soybean fields can be more easily sprayed with Roundup (glyphosate, not sure I'm spelling correctly)--it kills the weeds, but not the soy plants so it's easier for farmers to apply--don't need to be careful about only getting the weeds.
It's heavily used in Argentina too, not sure where else in the world since it's been a while since I did work related to the subject. |
Anonymous
I know. We're hijacking a good thread, but I feel the same way. I have a friend who sees her baby for maybe three or four waking hours a WEEK but she pumps, and therefore she gave me several lectures about breastfeeding. It was like she thought she was a better mother than me. Finally I had to tell her that I couldn't do it for medical reasons (and reveal that personal condition). I never felt the same way about her or our friendship. Different values. You sound like a great mother (and so am I). Your children will grow up with a million advantages because of ALL your choices. Good luck and ignore the crazies. |
SurelyYouNest
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I agree with PPs on getting protein from alternate veggie sources and seeking out local farms. We get our meat from Polyface and up until recently got milk from South Mountain Creamery (at the moment we're getting local grassfed milk from the Dupont Farmer's market).
There's a DCUM who recently set up a business with drops for local (PA and MD) grassfed/org beef and lamb (which can also be ordered kosher, and I am sure she's the only one in the area who does this) -- she's posted before on the forums but for convenience's sake her info is: To order email: devora @ kolfoods.com For details on cuts go to: www.kolfoods.com/goodforkfoods I blogged about soy a while back and have links in my post about research both pro and con for soy. In general, the cautious approach seemed to be to select traditional (ie fermented for the most part) soya foods and to eat them in traditional ways (ie in moderate amounts, cooked if it's tofu, etc). Meaning that lots of fake meat products aka texturized veggie protein may be problematic. Not saying that hormone-laden meat is better! Just that the usual culprit is the same here - convenience foods. |
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| whoops, link to my blogpost here http://surelyyounest.blogspot.com/2007/11/soy-vey.html |
Anonymous
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"Meaning that lots of fake meat products aka texturized veggie protein may be problematic. Not saying that hormone-laden meat is better! Just that the usual culprit is the same here - convenience foods."
Thank you for FINALLY bringing some sense to the soy/no soy conversation! We end up eating the fake stuff (veggie dogs) once/week. Other than that, it's all striaght from the earth for us! |
Anonymous
Tofu, soymilk, and soy formula are just as bad. The only really "safe" soy is fermented soy like miso and soy sauce. |
Anonymous
Then use tempeh.... it is fermented |
Anonymous
Organic tofu too? If we buy organic soy products, which are not expensive, they use this too? |
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| Dear SurelyYouNest, thank you SO MUCH for the tip on the source for kosher, organic, grass-fed meat. I checked out the website and emailed Devora. What a rare find. |
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| I cut way back on my soy consumption when I realized I was drinking soy milk; adding soy powder to baked items; and eating tofu, edamama, Moriningstar products, and soynuts on a daily basis. I was pregnant at the time and happened upon some research on eating soy, basically the info in the article you posted. I like beans and rice better anyway. I think the soy industry's marketing and advertising has done an effective job of leading consumers to believe that soy is a healthier alternative to pretty much everything. The jury may still be out, but as usual the best route may be moderation and a varied diet. |
Anonymous
| It's fairly easy to buy soy-based products that use non-GMO soy, and to eat whole foods most of the time rather than processed ones. A recent issue of Vegetarian Times rounded up some of the research and I don't feel all that concerned about the limited amounts of soy products that my child eats. It sounds like many of you use local farms for meat, which is terrific unless you're veggie, as I am. I'd love to find an organic version of South Mountain Creamery. |
Anonymous
Since these animals are non-indigenous to the region, I cannot countenance using goats' milk. This speaks to the whole monoculture issue. Instead, wild turkeys - native to the DC region - produce a milk which, while a little sour and hard to access, is natural, non-allergenic, nutritious, and truly suitable for locavores. |
Anonymous
| oh dear, this thread is making my head spin. i thought my organic milk from whole foods was good enough?!? |