AP Stats

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here, weird that some folks think I’m trolling, but thank you to those who offered helpful comments! In answer to the latter, DC’s other classes next year in addition to AP Stats would be as follows: AP Physics C, AP English, post-AP French, post-AP Computer Science, and post-AP Math (Number Theory). He’d be forgoing a History/Social Science class such as AP Government or AP Economics by taking AP Stats (he’s already taken AP US and AP Euro).

That seems fine to me, plenty of rigorous classes. I assume you are not in VA where government is required?

Correct, not in VA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My Junior is taking AP Stats and AP Calc AB and has enjoyed both so much that he is now looking at being an applied math major. Go for it!

DC will do the same for Senior year.

Business major.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here, weird that some folks think I’m trolling, but thank you to those who offered helpful comments! In answer to the latter, DC’s other classes next year in addition to AP Stats would be as follows: AP Physics C, AP English, post-AP French, post-AP Computer Science, and post-AP Math (Number Theory). He’d be forgoing a History/Social Science class such as AP Government or AP Economics by taking AP Stats (he’s already taken AP US and AP Euro).

Wait, so he only takes 6 classes, not 7?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here, weird that some folks think I’m trolling, but thank you to those who offered helpful comments! In answer to the latter, DC’s other classes next year in addition to AP Stats would be as follows: AP Physics C, AP English, post-AP French, post-AP Computer Science, and post-AP Math (Number Theory). He’d be forgoing a History/Social Science class such as AP Government or AP Economics by taking AP Stats (he’s already taken AP US and AP Euro).

Wait, so he only takes 6 classes, not 7?

Correct, at our school students can only take 6 classes if they’re taking a lab science such as AP Physics (because lab time takes up an extra class slot).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here, weird that some folks think I’m trolling, but thank you to those who offered helpful comments! In answer to the latter, DC’s other classes next year in addition to AP Stats would be as follows: AP Physics C, AP English, post-AP French, post-AP Computer Science, and post-AP Math (Number Theory). He’d be forgoing a History/Social Science class such as AP Government or AP Economics by taking AP Stats (he’s already taken AP US and AP Euro).

Not weird at all. You may have posted in earnest, but it's still a pretty troll-y post. Your kid is good on rigor, clearly. Asking this is a troll move or super ignorant of rigor. You really think a college is going to look at AP Stats and conclude that your kid peaked at 11th grade? Give me a break.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here, weird that some folks think I’m trolling, but thank you to those who offered helpful comments! In answer to the latter, DC’s other classes next year in addition to AP Stats would be as follows: AP Physics C, AP English, post-AP French, post-AP Computer Science, and post-AP Math (Number Theory). He’d be forgoing a History/Social Science class such as AP Government or AP Economics by taking AP Stats (he’s already taken AP US and AP Euro).

Not weird at all. You may have posted in earnest, but it's still a pretty troll-y post. Your kid is good on rigor, clearly. Asking this is a troll move or super ignorant of rigor. You really think a college is going to look at AP Stats and conclude that your kid peaked at 11th grade? Give me a break.

The concern is that taking AP Stats over AP Econ or AP Gov might be considered a cop-out to colleges looking for maximum rigor. I think it’s a valid, non-troll-y question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here, weird that some folks think I’m trolling, but thank you to those who offered helpful comments! In answer to the latter, DC’s other classes next year in addition to AP Stats would be as follows: AP Physics C, AP English, post-AP French, post-AP Computer Science, and post-AP Math (Number Theory). He’d be forgoing a History/Social Science class such as AP Government or AP Economics by taking AP Stats (he’s already taken AP US and AP Euro).

Wait, so he only takes 6 classes, not 7?

Correct, at our school students can only take 6 classes if they’re taking a lab science such as AP Physics (because lab time takes up an extra class slot).

Hmmm, then I think he should take a history/SS course instead of AP Stats to round out his core. Selective colleges look for the 5 core classes every year. Has he already taken AP World History? If so, then go with AP Government. If he truly wants to take AP Stats, then he should self-study for the AP Govt test and make sure he notes this in the "additional info" section on the common app.

[Anonymous]

My concern as an AO would be why your kid didn’t skip high school and just go straight to college? What a slacker.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here, weird that some folks think I’m trolling, but thank you to those who offered helpful comments! In answer to the latter, DC’s other classes next year in addition to AP Stats would be as follows: AP Physics C, AP English, post-AP French, post-AP Computer Science, and post-AP Math (Number Theory). He’d be forgoing a History/Social Science class such as AP Government or AP Economics by taking AP Stats (he’s already taken AP US and AP Euro).

Wait, so he only takes 6 classes, not 7?

Correct, at our school students can only take 6 classes if they’re taking a lab science such as AP Physics (because lab time takes up an extra class slot).

Hmmm, then I think he should take a history/SS course instead of AP Stats to round out his core. Selective colleges look for the 5 core classes every year. Has he already taken AP World History? If so, then go with AP Government. If he truly wants to take AP Stats, then he should self-study for the AP Govt test and make sure he notes this in the "additional info" section on the common app.

3 years of humanities is fine for selective colleges. Check the CDS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here, weird that some folks think I’m trolling, but thank you to those who offered helpful comments! In answer to the latter, DC’s other classes next year in addition to AP Stats would be as follows: AP Physics C, AP English, post-AP French, post-AP Computer Science, and post-AP Math (Number Theory). He’d be forgoing a History/Social Science class such as AP Government or AP Economics by taking AP Stats (he’s already taken AP US and AP Euro).

Not weird at all. You may have posted in earnest, but it's still a pretty troll-y post. Your kid is good on rigor, clearly. Asking this is a troll move or super ignorant of rigor. You really think a college is going to look at AP Stats and conclude that your kid peaked at 11th grade? Give me a break.

The concern is that taking AP Stats over AP Econ or AP Gov might be considered a cop-out to colleges looking for maximum rigor. I think it’s a valid, non-troll-y question.

Disagree. Kid is clearly fine on rigor. Stats v Econ makes no difference if kid is 2 years out of BC. It is a troll-y question and just bragadocious, not something quite precocious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Current junior DC is pretty advanced in math (BC calc in 9th, MV in 10th, Linear Algebra in 11th, and will be taking Number Theory in 12th). He wants to also take Stats next year because he really loves math, but it’s going to be ridiculously easy for him. Will ad coms view this as a cop-out when he could be taking something more rigorous?

Take a calculus-baaed statistics course with DE, or maybe something different like discrete math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:AP stats is Pretty easy. Many kids take AP stats as an elective. Not as their main math course (number theory). But as an extra class.

Yes, he’d be taking Number Theory as his main math course and Stats as an elective (at the expense of taking a more rigorous elective).

If he doesn't take the most rigorous courses available to him he will be viewed as a slacker.

[Anonymous]

Another option would be taking AP econ and self studying the (mathematical) statistics he wants at his level. He could also use a calc-based intermediate econ text like Varian if he wanted to go in depth into econ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Current junior DC is pretty advanced in math (BC calc in 9th, MV in 10th, Linear Algebra in 11th, and will be taking Number Theory in 12th). He wants to also take Stats next year because he really loves math, but it’s going to be ridiculously easy for him. Will ad coms view this as a cop-out when he could be taking something more rigorous?

It's a discouraging trajectory.l that screams overacceleration. BC Calc in 9th, but then spent a year in each of the 1-semester follow up classes? Number theory is a softball math elective -- middle schoolers take that at AoPS.

I hope he has a strong AIME + USAMO to show that he really learned the math and didn't just rush through cramming it.

Why call it discouraging? If the kid took these classes at school, they were likely full year classes. If through dual enrollment, then they would be similar to college classes which are semester-long anyway. Besides, a college level number theory class is no joke -- too many theorems!! The AOPS NT is just simple stuff that is covered in the first week of a college level class and is mostly algorithmic.

A strong middle school math team member could solve half this UMD 400 level final exam with no additional training or notes, and solve at least half the rest given a few weeks to go over the specific mateirial

https://www.math.umd.edu/~immortal/MATH406/exams/finalspring2020.pdf


This Harvard final exam is quite harder, on the other hand.
https://wstein.org/edu/Fall2001/124/final/examfinal2.pdf

[Anonymous]

You can tell it's a troll because the OP question isn't really about the title.