DCI didn't offer any non-preference seats for 6th grade Chinese or Spanish - What gives?

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Anonymous wrote:Because the demand for slots from preferenced students (feeders + siblings + staff) exceeds the available seats in the more popular language tracks (chinese and spanish). They can't just shift all excess spots away from french, as they need a certain number of students in the french track to make class sizes and scheduling practical.
And they would not have known until the preferenced students accept or reject their offers whether they would have extra spots in Chinese and Spanish, so how could they have told you? In any case, you can tell by looking at the past numbers that you had a slim chance of getting in off the lottery even if they had a couple extra spots.

Chances for Chinese aren't that slim. Last year they made 23 5th grade offers to an initial waitlist of 59 kids. For 8th, 44 offers were made and only 48 kids were on the initial waitlist.

Same question as OP. Why not just have 20 open slots instead of zero slots with a default to waitlist? I thought that it might be explained by growth in feeder school cohort sizes (siblings?) but it looks like they've only needed to add a handful of preference slots each year.

I think because they want to keep the no-preference kids from matching until all siblings and preference kids have been admitted. So like if a kid at YY matched for 6th, then enrolled, that would trigger a preference for their sibling who didn't attend YY, the sibling would jump to the top of the Chinese no-preference list. Right?

I bet this is correct—I believe at least some of the Spanish feeders did not take all of their spots, so there would presumably be spots once they figure this out.

You can view it now. https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/aaron2446/viz/MSDCSeatsandWaitlistOfferData_draft/MSDCPublicDisplay

DCI-YY matched 52 out of 52 spots offered, with 2 kids waitlisted (not sure how that works-- maybe the weird sibling match rule?)

DCI-Stokes French matched 19 out of 20 spots offered, 0 on the waitlist. So I guess that opens a seat for a non-feeder French kid. Non-feeder French matched 30 out of 30 spots offered with 130 on the waitlist.

DCI-DCB matched 43/43 with 0 on the waitlist.
DCI-Stokes Spanish matched 16/19, so I guess 3 kids didn't list it or matched elsewhere. So that opens 3 seats for non-feeder kids.
DCI-LAMB matched 45 out of 46 seats offered, with 0 on the waitlist. So that's 1 seat left over.
DCI-Mundo matched 66/66, with 0 on the waitlist.

I'm not sure how they decide how many seats to offer, maybe it automatically sets to equal the number of applicants, the way the Early Action preschool seats do?

Very helpful and proves that there is likely going to be no seats for non-feeder families in the next 1-2 years. Also disproves that high performers from feeders are not tracking to DCI, especially from the vocal anti-YY crowd.

Well, not necessarily. There were 30 French non-feeder seats offered in this year's lottery, with 30 matches and 130 on the waitlist. Even if every single kid from Stokes Brookland and Stokes East End matriculated to DCI, there would still be 10 or so spots left over.

Also, this is just the initial lottery results. Last year, non-YY Chinese track DCI offered 20 seats, matched 20 kids, and made 23 further offers. Either they don't have a high offer acceptance rate for those seats (totally possible), or some YY kids matched and then declined the match later and their seats were offered to non-feeder kids. I'm really not sure.

[Anonymous]

So essentially the feeders that expanded (Mundo and stokes) will be super competitive in a couple of years? Does DCI plan on accounting for this expansion by adding/offering more seats?

[Anonymous]

I would say DCI is becoming the Deal middle school EOTP although it’s not part of DCPS.

It has a critical mass of grade level and above grade level kids. It’s a big enough school but not too big, with the plus that it doesn’t have the overcrowding issue like Deal. It has great facilities, and a large offering of sports, clubs, and extracurriculars like Deal. It has an IB curriculum like Deal.

Your choices for middle schools EOTP are DCI, Latin, and Basis. We toured Latin and Basis and the facilities are sadly lacking and so are the sports, clubs, and extracurriculars. We are not even going to play the lottery for Latin or Basis although we have a high performing kid. I’m sure many feeder families like us have made similar decisions.

Of the 3 middle schools above, DCI is most similar to your typical suburban middle school with good academics, facilities, sports, and extracurriculars. We had that experience, and it’s what we want for our DS.

DCI has passed the point now where they have buy in from middle and UMC families. And as the overwhelming majority of families track to DCI, the cohort of kids will become stronger and stronger, because the cohort coming up the feeder schools are stronger than what they were just 3 or 5 years ago.

Non-feeder kids won’t have any chance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would say DCI is becoming the Deal middle school EOTP although it’s not part of DCPS.

It has a critical mass of grade level and above grade level kids. It’s a big enough school but not too big, with the plus that it doesn’t have the overcrowding issue like Deal. It has great facilities, and a large offering of sports, clubs, and extracurriculars like Deal. It has an IB curriculum like Deal.

Your choices for middle schools EOTP are DCI, Latin, and Basis. We toured Latin and Basis and the facilities are sadly lacking and so are the sports, clubs, and extracurriculars. We are not even going to play the lottery for Latin or Basis although we have a high performing kid. I’m sure many feeder families like us have made similar decisions.

Of the 3 middle schools above, DCI is most similar to your typical suburban middle school with good academics, facilities, sports, and extracurriculars. We had that experience, and it’s what we want for our DS.

DCI has passed the point now where they have buy in from middle and UMC families. And as the overwhelming majority of families track to DCI, the cohort of kids will become stronger and stronger, because the cohort coming up the feeder schools are stronger than what they were just 3 or 5 years ago.

Non-feeder kids won’t have any chance.

Hello Booster. Do you mean that the Spanish feeders will be allowed to consume the extra French seats?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So essentially the feeders that expanded (Mundo and stokes) will be super competitive in a couple of years? Does DCI plan on accounting for this expansion by adding/offering more seats?

You can add LAMB to the expansion too. DCB I heard have talked about expanding.

DCI has already been approved for more seats. That is not the factor. The factor is the physical space which can’t accommodate all the kids. They would need to find a 2nd space or building in the complex or outside the complex. If they did, it would be most easiest to divide it into a middle and a high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would say DCI is becoming the Deal middle school EOTP although it’s not part of DCPS.

It has a critical mass of grade level and above grade level kids. It’s a big enough school but not too big, with the plus that it doesn’t have the overcrowding issue like Deal. It has great facilities, and a large offering of sports, clubs, and extracurriculars like Deal. It has an IB curriculum like Deal.

Your choices for middle schools EOTP are DCI, Latin, and Basis. We toured Latin and Basis and the facilities are sadly lacking and so are the sports, clubs, and extracurriculars. We are not even going to play the lottery for Latin or Basis although we have a high performing kid. I’m sure many feeder families like us have made similar decisions.

Of the 3 middle schools above, DCI is most similar to your typical suburban middle school with good academics, facilities, sports, and extracurriculars. We had that experience, and it’s what we want for our DS.

DCI has passed the point now where they have buy in from middle and UMC families. And as the overwhelming majority of families track to DCI, the cohort of kids will become stronger and stronger, because the cohort coming up the feeder schools are stronger than what they were just 3 or 5 years ago.

Non-feeder kids won’t have any chance.

Hello Booster. Do you mean that the Spanish feeders will be allowed to consume the extra French seats?

I’m not a booster. What above is not true about my post? We looked hard at Latin and Basis and passed.

As to your question, I don’t know. But what is stopping the school from doing that when the expansion years hit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would say DCI is becoming the Deal middle school EOTP although it’s not part of DCPS.

It has a critical mass of grade level and above grade level kids. It’s a big enough school but not too big, with the plus that it doesn’t have the overcrowding issue like Deal. It has great facilities, and a large offering of sports, clubs, and extracurriculars like Deal. It has an IB curriculum like Deal.

Your choices for middle schools EOTP are DCI, Latin, and Basis. We toured Latin and Basis and the facilities are sadly lacking and so are the sports, clubs, and extracurriculars. We are not even going to play the lottery for Latin or Basis although we have a high performing kid. I’m sure many feeder families like us have made similar decisions.

Of the 3 middle schools above, DCI is most similar to your typical suburban middle school with good academics, facilities, sports, and extracurriculars. We had that experience, and it’s what we want for our DS.

DCI has passed the point now where they have buy in from middle and UMC families. And as the overwhelming majority of families track to DCI, the cohort of kids will become stronger and stronger, because the cohort coming up the feeder schools are stronger than what they were just 3 or 5 years ago.

Non-feeder kids won’t have any chance.

Hello Booster. Do you mean that the Spanish feeders will be allowed to consume the extra French seats?

I’m not a booster. What above is not true about my post? We looked hard at Latin and Basis and passed.

As to your question, I don’t know. But what is stopping the school from doing that when the expansion years hit.

I was under the impression that they have to offer some non-feeder seats per their charter agreement. But you seem to be awfully positive about it-- funny because Mundo continues to be a mess, Stokes continues to lag academically, and Latin and BASIS continue to appeal to feeder families within my social circle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would say DCI is becoming the Deal middle school EOTP although it’s not part of DCPS.

It has a critical mass of grade level and above grade level kids. It’s a big enough school but not too big, with the plus that it doesn’t have the overcrowding issue like Deal. It has great facilities, and a large offering of sports, clubs, and extracurriculars like Deal. It has an IB curriculum like Deal.

Your choices for middle schools EOTP are DCI, Latin, and Basis. We toured Latin and Basis and the facilities are sadly lacking and so are the sports, clubs, and extracurriculars. We are not even going to play the lottery for Latin or Basis although we have a high performing kid. I’m sure many feeder families like us have made similar decisions.

Of the 3 middle schools above, DCI is most similar to your typical suburban middle school with good academics, facilities, sports, and extracurriculars. We had that experience, and it’s what we want for our DS.

DCI has passed the point now where they have buy in from middle and UMC families. And as the overwhelming majority of families track to DCI, the cohort of kids will become stronger and stronger, because the cohort coming up the feeder schools are stronger than what they were just 3 or 5 years ago.

Non-feeder kids won’t have any chance.

Hello Booster. Do you mean that the Spanish feeders will be allowed to consume the extra French seats?

I’m not a booster. What above is not true about my post? We looked hard at Latin and Basis and passed.

As to your question, I don’t know. But what is stopping the school from doing that when the expansion years hit.

I was under the impression that they have to offer some non-feeder seats per their charter agreement. But you seem to be awfully positive about it-- funny because Mundo continues to be a mess, Stokes continues to lag academically, and Latin and BASIS continue to appeal to feeder families within my social circle.

I went to the Latin open house this year. The principal explicitly said that they don't have many feeder families. Maybe the few there are in your social circles.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So essentially the feeders that expanded (Mundo and stokes) will be super competitive in a couple of years? Does DCI plan on accounting for this expansion by adding/offering more seats?

You can add LAMB to the expansion too. DCB I heard have talked about expanding.

DCI has already been approved for more seats. That is not the factor. The factor is the physical space which can’t accommodate all the kids. They would need to find a 2nd space or building in the complex or outside the complex. If they did, it would be most easiest to divide it into a middle and a high school.

DCB also expanded a couple of years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would say DCI is becoming the Deal middle school EOTP although it’s not part of DCPS.

It has a critical mass of grade level and above grade level kids. It’s a big enough school but not too big, with the plus that it doesn’t have the overcrowding issue like Deal. It has great facilities, and a large offering of sports, clubs, and extracurriculars like Deal. It has an IB curriculum like Deal.

Your choices for middle schools EOTP are DCI, Latin, and Basis. We toured Latin and Basis and the facilities are sadly lacking and so are the sports, clubs, and extracurriculars. We are not even going to play the lottery for Latin or Basis although we have a high performing kid. I’m sure many feeder families like us have made similar decisions.

Of the 3 middle schools above, DCI is most similar to your typical suburban middle school with good academics, facilities, sports, and extracurriculars. We had that experience, and it’s what we want for our DS.

DCI has passed the point now where they have buy in from middle and UMC families. And as the overwhelming majority of families track to DCI, the cohort of kids will become stronger and stronger, because the cohort coming up the feeder schools are stronger than what they were just 3 or 5 years ago.

Non-feeder kids won’t have any chance.

Hello Booster. Do you mean that the Spanish feeders will be allowed to consume the extra French seats?

I’m not a booster. What above is not true about my post? We looked hard at Latin and Basis and passed.

As to your question, I don’t know. But what is stopping the school from doing that when the expansion years hit.

I was under the impression that they have to offer some non-feeder seats per their charter agreement. But you seem to be awfully positive about it-- funny because Mundo continues to be a mess, Stokes continues to lag academically, and Latin and BASIS continue to appeal to feeder families within my social circle.

Thank you for sharing your anecdata. But Let’s talk about data.

These data show that kids from the feeders are going to DCI:

Here's 5th grade enrollment audit data from this year-- it's from October so it's unclear that all of those kids were still attending their school at lottery time.

YY-52, looks like all kids matched with DCI.
Stokes has 43 kids total, not broken down between Spanish and French. A total of 35 Stokes 5th graders matched at DCI, so that's 8 unaccounted for.
DCB, 47 5th graders. Yet only 43 seats at DCI were offered, I wonder why.
LAMB, 49 5th graders, only 46 seats offered at DCI, wonder why.
Mundo, 68 5th graders. Only 66 DCI seats were offered.


These data show how many kids are in each feeder: https://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/page_content/attachments/Audit.xlsx

The two DCI feeders that you mentioned have around 1250+ students total. A lot of families are choosing DCI feeders + DCI, no mater what your “social circle” tells you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would say DCI is becoming the Deal middle school EOTP although it’s not part of DCPS.

It has a critical mass of grade level and above grade level kids. It’s a big enough school but not too big, with the plus that it doesn’t have the overcrowding issue like Deal. It has great facilities, and a large offering of sports, clubs, and extracurriculars like Deal. It has an IB curriculum like Deal.

Your choices for middle schools EOTP are DCI, Latin, and Basis. We toured Latin and Basis and the facilities are sadly lacking and so are the sports, clubs, and extracurriculars. We are not even going to play the lottery for Latin or Basis although we have a high performing kid. I’m sure many feeder families like us have made similar decisions.

Of the 3 middle schools above, DCI is most similar to your typical suburban middle school with good academics, facilities, sports, and extracurriculars. We had that experience, and it’s what we want for our DS.

DCI has passed the point now where they have buy in from middle and UMC families. And as the overwhelming majority of families track to DCI, the cohort of kids will become stronger and stronger, because the cohort coming up the feeder schools are stronger than what they were just 3 or 5 years ago.

Non-feeder kids won’t have any chance.

Hello Booster. Do you mean that the Spanish feeders will be allowed to consume the extra French seats?

I’m not a booster. What above is not true about my post? We looked hard at Latin and Basis and passed.

As to your question, I don’t know. But what is stopping the school from doing that when the expansion years hit.

I was under the impression that they have to offer some non-feeder seats per their charter agreement. But you seem to be awfully positive about it-- funny because Mundo continues to be a mess, Stokes continues to lag academically, and Latin and BASIS continue to appeal to feeder families within my social circle.

Thank you for sharing your anecdata. But Let’s talk about data.

These data show that kids from the feeders are going to DCI:

Here's 5th grade enrollment audit data from this year-- it's from October so it's unclear that all of those kids were still attending their school at lottery time.

YY-52, looks like all kids matched with DCI.
Stokes has 43 kids total, not broken down between Spanish and French. A total of 35 Stokes 5th graders matched at DCI, so that's 8 unaccounted for.
DCB, 47 5th graders. Yet only 43 seats at DCI were offered, I wonder why.
LAMB, 49 5th graders, only 46 seats offered at DCI, wonder why.
Mundo, 68 5th graders. Only 66 DCI seats were offered.


These data show how many kids are in each feeder: https://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/page_content/attachments/Audit.xlsx

The two DCI feeders that you mentioned have around 1250+ students total. A lot of families are choosing DCI feeders + DCI, no mater what your “social circle” tells you.

I take it you’re not the same booster as the “anyone would take those odds because families leave and open up more spaces for meeee”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would say DCI is becoming the Deal middle school EOTP although it’s not part of DCPS.

It has a critical mass of grade level and above grade level kids. It’s a big enough school but not too big, with the plus that it doesn’t have the overcrowding issue like Deal. It has great facilities, and a large offering of sports, clubs, and extracurriculars like Deal. It has an IB curriculum like Deal.

Your choices for middle schools EOTP are DCI, Latin, and Basis. We toured Latin and Basis and the facilities are sadly lacking and so are the sports, clubs, and extracurriculars. We are not even going to play the lottery for Latin or Basis although we have a high performing kid. I’m sure many feeder families like us have made similar decisions.

Of the 3 middle schools above, DCI is most similar to your typical suburban middle school with good academics, facilities, sports, and extracurriculars. We had that experience, and it’s what we want for our DS.

DCI has passed the point now where they have buy in from middle and UMC families. And as the overwhelming majority of families track to DCI, the cohort of kids will become stronger and stronger, because the cohort coming up the feeder schools are stronger than what they were just 3 or 5 years ago.

Non-feeder kids won’t have any chance.

Hello Booster. Do you mean that the Spanish feeders will be allowed to consume the extra French seats?

I’m not a booster. What above is not true about my post? We looked hard at Latin and Basis and passed.

As to your question, I don’t know. But what is stopping the school from doing that when the expansion years hit.

I was under the impression that they have to offer some non-feeder seats per their charter agreement. But you seem to be awfully positive about it-- funny because Mundo continues to be a mess, Stokes continues to lag academically, and Latin and BASIS continue to appeal to feeder families within my social circle.

Thank you for sharing your anecdata. But Let’s talk about data.

These data show that kids from the feeders are going to DCI:

Here's 5th grade enrollment audit data from this year-- it's from October so it's unclear that all of those kids were still attending their school at lottery time.

YY-52, looks like all kids matched with DCI.
Stokes has 43 kids total, not broken down between Spanish and French. A total of 35 Stokes 5th graders matched at DCI, so that's 8 unaccounted for.
DCB, 47 5th graders. Yet only 43 seats at DCI were offered, I wonder why.
LAMB, 49 5th graders, only 46 seats offered at DCI, wonder why.
Mundo, 68 5th graders. Only 66 DCI seats were offered.


These data show how many kids are in each feeder: https://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/page_content/attachments/Audit.xlsx

The two DCI feeders that you mentioned have around 1250+ students total. A lot of families are choosing DCI feeders + DCI, no mater what your “social circle” tells you.

I'm the one who wrote up that data! And as I said earlier, that shows initial lottery matches. It does not show who accepted the match, and it does not show who didn't enroll.

Are feeder students attending DCI? Sure. But you are overstating the case if you think all those matches enrolled and matriculated. DCI made a lot of non-feeder wait-list offers last year in addition to 40 initial lottery non-feeder matches. 23 offers for Chinese, 16 for French, and 42 for Spanish. How is that possible unless there's a significant loss of enrollment over the summer?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would say DCI is becoming the Deal middle school EOTP although it’s not part of DCPS.

It has a critical mass of grade level and above grade level kids. It’s a big enough school but not too big, with the plus that it doesn’t have the overcrowding issue like Deal. It has great facilities, and a large offering of sports, clubs, and extracurriculars like Deal. It has an IB curriculum like Deal.

Your choices for middle schools EOTP are DCI, Latin, and Basis. We toured Latin and Basis and the facilities are sadly lacking and so are the sports, clubs, and extracurriculars. We are not even going to play the lottery for Latin or Basis although we have a high performing kid. I’m sure many feeder families like us have made similar decisions.

Of the 3 middle schools above, DCI is most similar to your typical suburban middle school with good academics, facilities, sports, and extracurriculars. We had that experience, and it’s what we want for our DS.

DCI has passed the point now where they have buy in from middle and UMC families. And as the overwhelming majority of families track to DCI, the cohort of kids will become stronger and stronger, because the cohort coming up the feeder schools are stronger than what they were just 3 or 5 years ago.

Non-feeder kids won’t have any chance.

Hello Booster. Do you mean that the Spanish feeders will be allowed to consume the extra French seats?

I’m not a booster. What above is not true about my post? We looked hard at Latin and Basis and passed.

As to your question, I don’t know. But what is stopping the school from doing that when the expansion years hit.

I was under the impression that they have to offer some non-feeder seats per their charter agreement. But you seem to be awfully positive about it-- funny because Mundo continues to be a mess, Stokes continues to lag academically, and Latin and BASIS continue to appeal to feeder families within my social circle.

Thank you for sharing your anecdata. But Let’s talk about data.

These data show that kids from the feeders are going to DCI:

Here's 5th grade enrollment audit data from this year-- it's from October so it's unclear that all of those kids were still attending their school at lottery time.

YY-52, looks like all kids matched with DCI.
Stokes has 43 kids total, not broken down between Spanish and French. A total of 35 Stokes 5th graders matched at DCI, so that's 8 unaccounted for.
DCB, 47 5th graders. Yet only 43 seats at DCI were offered, I wonder why.
LAMB, 49 5th graders, only 46 seats offered at DCI, wonder why.
Mundo, 68 5th graders. Only 66 DCI seats were offered.


These data show how many kids are in each feeder: https://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/page_content/attachments/Audit.xlsx

The two DCI feeders that you mentioned have around 1250+ students total. A lot of families are choosing DCI feeders + DCI, no mater what your “social circle” tells you.

I'm the one who wrote up that data! And as I said earlier, that shows initial lottery matches. It does not show who accepted the match, and it does not show who didn't enroll.

Are feeder students attending DCI? Sure. But you are overstating the case if you think all those matches enrolled and matriculated. DCI made a lot of non-feeder wait-list offers last year in addition to 40 initial lottery non-feeder matches. 23 offers for Chinese, 16 for French, and 42 for Spanish. How is that possible unless there's a significant loss of enrollment over the summer?

NP, just because they made however many offers does not mean there are that many seats. For example, they could have 2 seats but if families decline the spot, they could move 10 spots down the waitlist. It doesn’t mean they have 10 seats. Waitlist numbers don’t always correlate with number of seats.

We have to wait and see if there is any movement on the waitlist but it’s very clear from the majority if families track to DCI.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would say DCI is becoming the Deal middle school EOTP although it’s not part of DCPS.

It has a critical mass of grade level and above grade level kids. It’s a big enough school but not too big, with the plus that it doesn’t have the overcrowding issue like Deal. It has great facilities, and a large offering of sports, clubs, and extracurriculars like Deal. It has an IB curriculum like Deal.

Your choices for middle schools EOTP are DCI, Latin, and Basis. We toured Latin and Basis and the facilities are sadly lacking and so are the sports, clubs, and extracurriculars. We are not even going to play the lottery for Latin or Basis although we have a high performing kid. I’m sure many feeder families like us have made similar decisions.

Of the 3 middle schools above, DCI is most similar to your typical suburban middle school with good academics, facilities, sports, and extracurriculars. We had that experience, and it’s what we want for our DS.

DCI has passed the point now where they have buy in from middle and UMC families. And as the overwhelming majority of families track to DCI, the cohort of kids will become stronger and stronger, because the cohort coming up the feeder schools are stronger than what they were just 3 or 5 years ago.

Non-feeder kids won’t have any chance.

Hello Booster. Do you mean that the Spanish feeders will be allowed to consume the extra French seats?

I’m not a booster. What above is not true about my post? We looked hard at Latin and Basis and passed.

As to your question, I don’t know. But what is stopping the school from doing that when the expansion years hit.

I was under the impression that they have to offer some non-feeder seats per their charter agreement. But you seem to be awfully positive about it-- funny because Mundo continues to be a mess, Stokes continues to lag academically, and Latin and BASIS continue to appeal to feeder families within my social circle.

Thank you for sharing your anecdata. But Let’s talk about data.

These data show that kids from the feeders are going to DCI:

Here's 5th grade enrollment audit data from this year-- it's from October so it's unclear that all of those kids were still attending their school at lottery time.

YY-52, looks like all kids matched with DCI.
Stokes has 43 kids total, not broken down between Spanish and French. A total of 35 Stokes 5th graders matched at DCI, so that's 8 unaccounted for.
DCB, 47 5th graders. Yet only 43 seats at DCI were offered, I wonder why.
LAMB, 49 5th graders, only 46 seats offered at DCI, wonder why.
Mundo, 68 5th graders. Only 66 DCI seats were offered.


These data show how many kids are in each feeder: https://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/page_content/attachments/Audit.xlsx

The two DCI feeders that you mentioned have around 1250+ students total. A lot of families are choosing DCI feeders + DCI, no mater what your “social circle” tells you.

I'm the one who wrote up that data! And as I said earlier, that shows initial lottery matches. It does not show who accepted the match, and it does not show who didn't enroll.

Are feeder students attending DCI? Sure. But you are overstating the case if you think all those matches enrolled and matriculated. DCI made a lot of non-feeder wait-list offers last year in addition to 40 initial lottery non-feeder matches. 23 offers for Chinese, 16 for French, and 42 for Spanish. How is that possible unless there's a significant loss of enrollment over the summer?

NP, just because they made however many offers does not mean there are that many seats. For example, they could have 2 seats but if families decline the spot, they could move 10 spots down the waitlist. It doesn’t mean they have 10 seats. Waitlist numbers don’t always correlate with number of seats.

We have to wait and see if there is any movement on the waitlist but it’s very clear from the majority if families track to DCI.

Well yes, I believe that's common knowledge. But it's an awful lot of offers to make for just a few seats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would say DCI is becoming the Deal middle school EOTP although it’s not part of DCPS.

It has a critical mass of grade level and above grade level kids. It’s a big enough school but not too big, with the plus that it doesn’t have the overcrowding issue like Deal. It has great facilities, and a large offering of sports, clubs, and extracurriculars like Deal. It has an IB curriculum like Deal.

Your choices for middle schools EOTP are DCI, Latin, and Basis. We toured Latin and Basis and the facilities are sadly lacking and so are the sports, clubs, and extracurriculars. We are not even going to play the lottery for Latin or Basis although we have a high performing kid. I’m sure many feeder families like us have made similar decisions.

Of the 3 middle schools above, DCI is most similar to your typical suburban middle school with good academics, facilities, sports, and extracurriculars. We had that experience, and it’s what we want for our DS.

DCI has passed the point now where they have buy in from middle and UMC families. And as the overwhelming majority of families track to DCI, the cohort of kids will become stronger and stronger, because the cohort coming up the feeder schools are stronger than what they were just 3 or 5 years ago.

Non-feeder kids won’t have any chance.

Hello Booster. Do you mean that the Spanish feeders will be allowed to consume the extra French seats?

I’m not a booster. What above is not true about my post? We looked hard at Latin and Basis and passed.

As to your question, I don’t know. But what is stopping the school from doing that when the expansion years hit.

I was under the impression that they have to offer some non-feeder seats per their charter agreement. But you seem to be awfully positive about it-- funny because Mundo continues to be a mess, Stokes continues to lag academically, and Latin and BASIS continue to appeal to feeder families within my social circle.

Thank you for sharing your anecdata. But Let’s talk about data.

These data show that kids from the feeders are going to DCI:

Here's 5th grade enrollment audit data from this year-- it's from October so it's unclear that all of those kids were still attending their school at lottery time.

YY-52, looks like all kids matched with DCI.
Stokes has 43 kids total, not broken down between Spanish and French. A total of 35 Stokes 5th graders matched at DCI, so that's 8 unaccounted for.
DCB, 47 5th graders. Yet only 43 seats at DCI were offered, I wonder why.
LAMB, 49 5th graders, only 46 seats offered at DCI, wonder why.
Mundo, 68 5th graders. Only 66 DCI seats were offered.


These data show how many kids are in each feeder: https://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/page_content/attachments/Audit.xlsx

The two DCI feeders that you mentioned have around 1250+ students total. A lot of families are choosing DCI feeders + DCI, no mater what your “social circle” tells you.

I take it you’re not the same booster as the “anyone would take those odds because families leave and open up more spaces for meeee”

No, I am a DP, I am sorry to disappoint you. I am just someone that loves data.