Van reco: Sienna, Odyssey or Pacifica

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:For the Sienna owners, any regrets with the capacity since the 2nd row seats can't be removed?


We haven’t missed it yet in over a year. We don’t do projects with big stuff and whenever we travel there are humans in the 2nd row anyway.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For the Sienna owners, any regrets with the capacity since the 2nd row seats can't be removed?


We haven’t missed it yet in over a year. We don’t do projects with big stuff and whenever we travel there are humans in the 2nd row anyway.


This brings up something else I've wondered about: what the heck do people actually use the second row stow and go for? Just moving and plywood sheets? The third row I totally get, which is why I think all four vans have it. But I cannot figure out the use case for the second row. If anyone who has it could give an example where its come in handy, I would appreciate it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have experience with the Carnival? I’m outside of the DMV and the dealers can never get them in stock.


Great looks. Terrible name. It's one of those that the Koreans refused to understand didn't translate as well as they thought.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For the Sienna owners, any regrets with the capacity since the 2nd row seats can't be removed?


We haven’t missed it yet in over a year. We don’t do projects with big stuff and whenever we travel there are humans in the 2nd row anyway.


This brings up something else I've wondered about: what the heck do people actually use the second row stow and go for? Just moving and plywood sheets? The third row I totally get, which is why I think all four vans have it. But I cannot figure out the use case for the second row. If anyone who has it could give an example where its come in handy, I would appreciate it.
With the Pacifica, we often stow the third row, and rarely stow the second one. We have car seats in the second row and will do just about anything to avoid taking them out. So yeah, only for really large items. When we left town for three months, we found the hidden compartments that the second row would go in to be very helpful for additional storage. I was amazed how much I could fit in there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For the Sienna owners, any regrets with the capacity since the 2nd row seats can't be removed?


We haven’t missed it yet in over a year. We don’t do projects with big stuff and whenever we travel there are humans in the 2nd row anyway.


This brings up something else I've wondered about: what the heck do people actually use the second row stow and go for? Just moving and plywood sheets? The third row I totally get, which is why I think all four vans have it. But I cannot figure out the use case for the second row. If anyone who has it could give an example where its come in handy, I would appreciate it.
With the Pacifica, we often stow the third row, and rarely stow the second one. We have car seats in the second row and will do just about anything to avoid taking them out. So yeah, only for really large items. When we left town for three months, we found the hidden compartments that the second row would go in to be very helpful for additional storage. I was amazed how much I could fit in there.


Ah good point on the hidden compartment. I hadn’t thought of that use. Also good for ambushing imperial storm troopers.
Anonymous
We have a 2018 Sienna where you can remove the seats and I’ve done it maybe 3 times, when I’ve bought and sold furniture.

The new hybrid Siennas have something like 50 cubic feet less cargo space than my older one though.

Ours is AWD and with good tires will beat any SUV (DH has had several) for winter driving. We had a 2011 prior that was totaled by hail.
Anonymous
I'm kind of suprised. I just found the Pacifica and Sienna interiors so hideous, and a so so inferior to the Odyssey interior. Factor in the crazy premium Sienna gets (for hybrid I guess??!?) and Odyssey was an absolute no brainer. I'm always suprised when people buy a different van.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm kind of suprised. I just found the Pacifica and Sienna interiors so hideous, and a so so inferior to the Odyssey interior. Factor in the crazy premium Sienna gets (for hybrid I guess??!?) and Odyssey was an absolute no brainer. I'm always suprised when people buy a different van.


I don’t remember the Odyssey interior being more attractive than the Sienna, but I’m not very particular about that. For us it was the hybrid and the fact that the middle seats slide way back (we have tall people) that sold us on the Sienna.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm kind of suprised. I just found the Pacifica and Sienna interiors so hideous, and a so so inferior to the Odyssey interior. Factor in the crazy premium Sienna gets (for hybrid I guess??!?) and Odyssey was an absolute no brainer. I'm always suprised when people buy a different van.


I don’t remember the Odyssey interior being more attractive than the Sienna, but I’m not very particular about that. For us it was the hybrid and the fact that the middle seats slide way back (we have tall people) that sold us on the Sienna.


I absolutely hated the giant center thing between the two front seats. It also has this hideous faux-looking wood grain and I really disliked whatever type of leather they used on the seats. This was on the top trim.

Sienna:
https://www.autoblog.com/2021/03/11/2021-toyota-sienna-interior-storage-review/

Odyssey:
https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/honda/odyssey/photos-interior

And the $10k extra for Sienna is just in explicable to me. When I see them driving on the road, I think "That person flushed $10k down the toilet."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm kind of suprised. I just found the Pacifica and Sienna interiors so hideous, and a so so inferior to the Odyssey interior. Factor in the crazy premium Sienna gets (for hybrid I guess??!?) and Odyssey was an absolute no brainer. I'm always suprised when people buy a different van.


I don’t remember the Odyssey interior being more attractive than the Sienna, but I’m not very particular about that. For us it was the hybrid and the fact that the middle seats slide way back (we have tall people) that sold us on the Sienna.


I absolutely hated the giant center thing between the two front seats. It also has this hideous faux-looking wood grain and I really disliked whatever type of leather they used on the seats. This was on the top trim.

Sienna:
https://www.autoblog.com/2021/03/11/2021-toyota-sienna-interior-storage-review/

Odyssey:
https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/honda/odyssey/photos-interior

And the $10k extra for Sienna is just in explicable to me. When I see them driving on the road, I think "That person flushed $10k down the toilet."


Yeah, those interiors look very comparable to me. I must not have your refined eye. Also, there’s not a $10k price difference for comparable trim levels. I’m glad you’re so happy with your Odyssey!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm kind of suprised. I just found the Pacifica and Sienna interiors so hideous, and a so so inferior to the Odyssey interior. Factor in the crazy premium Sienna gets (for hybrid I guess??!?) and Odyssey was an absolute no brainer. I'm always suprised when people buy a different van.


I don’t remember the Odyssey interior being more attractive than the Sienna, but I’m not very particular about that. For us it was the hybrid and the fact that the middle seats slide way back (we have tall people) that sold us on the Sienna.


I absolutely hated the giant center thing between the two front seats. It also has this hideous faux-looking wood grain and I really disliked whatever type of leather they used on the seats. This was on the top trim.

Sienna:
https://www.autoblog.com/2021/03/11/2021-toyota-sienna-interior-storage-review/

Odyssey:
https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/honda/odyssey/photos-interior

And the $10k extra for Sienna is just in explicable to me. When I see them driving on the road, I think "That person flushed $10k down the toilet."


Yeah, those interiors look very comparable to me. I must not have your refined eye. Also, there’s not a $10k price difference for comparable trim levels. I’m glad you’re so happy with your Odyssey!


When we looked we were quoted just under $50k (before taxes) for the Odyssey Elite and just shy of $60k (before taxes) on Sienna Platinum. Clearly a lot of people agree with you because I see the Siennas as often as I see Odysseys.
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