Why do people allow kids to play sports at the expense of academics?

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Anonymous wrote:Question says it all. Unless your kid is truly scholarship material, I seriously don't understand why you'd let your kid play sports when they are bringing in low Bs. I know colleges like sports because the student seems more well-rounded, but that's stupid if it comes at the expense of grades.


You don't need to understand it because it's not your child nor is it any of your business. Nothing like a sanctimonious "I don't understand people who aren't as good a parent as I" post to get your day started, hunh?


It's too early to be so over sensitive.


It's a stupid question with obvious answers designed only to make the OP feel smugly superior.


It's today's edition of the DCUM perennial, "Why do people who are not me do things that I wouldn't do?"
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Anonymous wrote:For some kids, Bs might be what they are getting for their best efforts and sports is an area where they can easily excel. We all have our strengths and challenges and we need to learn to make the best of our strengths and work hard at our challenges. It's good to have a balance in our days of things we are good at and things we have to work at. In addition, athletic participation teaches kids a lot about cooperation, leadership, how to win and lose in a graceful manner, persistence, and discipline, not to mention the physical fitness and health benefits.

Why do some people allow their kids to spend all their time on academics and make no effort to improve their athletic skills?


Because kids with good grades have more options and opportunities than kids with bad grades. If two kids are competing for the same opportunity, the kid with the good grades is going to have an edge over the low B kid.


You are oversimplifying and ignoring PP's point. Let's say you have a B student who, if they dropped all of their other sports and focused exclusively on academics, can only really bring their grades up to a B+ overall. An increase from B to B+, all else being equal, may result in some better opportunities, but the opportunities for a B+ student who does nothing else still may not be as good as for a child with Bs who is also a dedicated athlete who has developed (and can demonstrate) maturity, teamwork, leadership, etc.) would be. They also may be much happier and emotionally healthy getting Bs and playing sports than if they were getting B+s and not playing sports.

If we're talking about a kid who could be making straight As without sports but is barely making Cs with sports, I will grant that there's good reason to reassess the place of sports in the kid's life. But those students are very few and far between, and they're certainly not representative of all student athletes.
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Anonymous wrote:Question says it all. Unless your kid is truly scholarship material, I seriously don't understand why you'd let your kid play sports when they are bringing in low Bs. I know colleges like sports because the student seems more well-rounded, but that's stupid if it comes at the expense of grades.


Because I don't expect all A's at all. I expect my child to study hard but be active, social, healthy and happy. Sports helps with all of those things. And ironically my daughter does WORSE in school this exact marking period. When she isn't playing a sport (she is off winter) and the days are cold and dark. She lacks focus when there is too much time on her hands. So I think without sports, she would be an uptight, unhappy kid striving for only A's to show she belongs.

Now if she was getting C and D's, then we would have to figure some things out or drop a sport if time was an issue. But I have found most kids that get A's, get them while playing sports. And most kids that got C's, gets them during sports too.


Some schools (like Basis) have short sports programs specifically in Jan-Feb, followed by regular sports in March, to give kids activity and keep them in shape.
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Some kids ARE excelling (personal best) when they are archieving low Bs. Additional hours studying aren't going to help. On the other hand, exercise helps build healthy bodies and release stress. And sports foster self-control, decision-making, and team work skills.

I teach and used to also tutor. Initially, I had your mindset. Then I worked with several driven families with B- star athletes. These families willingly paid for $70 an hour tutoring four times a week (I was just one subject) and all they got for their money was frustrated kids who would have been better off going to bed an hour earlier. Swim practice is ridiculously early.
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When I was on the recruiting committee of biglaw firm I learned that the managing partner nearly insisted that the good candidates have strong team sports on their resume -- preferably at the college level. So you can't just blanket say "better grades equals more opportunities". You'd be wrong.
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Actually, they might be worse students without the sports. Time spent at academics isn't the only determining factor. There are other things at play, like happiness, focus, health, etc. Some people are at their most creative during or after exercise. I work in education, and I will often "prescribe" more physical activity for students who are not doing well. It can give the day structure, help them focus, stave off depression/anxiety, make them more self-confident, and decrease screen time, which can compound other issues.
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Anonymous wrote:When I was on the recruiting committee of biglaw firm I learned that the managing partner nearly insisted that the good candidates have strong team sports on their resume -- preferably at the college level. So you can't just blanket say "better grades equals more opportunities". You'd be wrong.


I'd say that's an anomaly and a quirk. Most law firms hiring their summer associates don't give a damn about if you played a college level sport. They want grades, journal, clerkships.
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Anonymous wrote:When I was on the recruiting committee of biglaw firm I learned that the managing partner nearly insisted that the good candidates have strong team sports on their resume -- preferably at the college level. So you can't just blanket say "better grades equals more opportunities". You'd be wrong.


I have seen this in other fields also. People who have never played a team sport frequently are missing a lot of important skills that are important in a business setting. Working with teammates to win at a sport has many similarities to working with associates to put a winning case together or write a winning sales presentation. Sports develop a lot of qualities that the classroom does not.
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When did Bs become such a horrible grade? This idea that every kid will get an A in every subject is just mind boggling to me...

But in answer to the question. Our first priority is and always will be academics. That doesn't mean that I expect straight A's in every subject. But I would be concerned if the kid went from mostly A's to mostly B's. It's good to get a baseline of their performance w/o extra curriculars before getting them started up in a sport. But once you have that baseline set, you also know what you can expect from them academically. If grades start to suffer, they know that they better study harder or they will have to drop the activity.

I remember how well that worked for me. I was highly motivated to stay in my extra curricular activity when I was a tween/teen so I was intrinsically motivated to study hard and keep my grades up.
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In our case, it's not at the expense of academics but we probably give it equal weight. They're kids (not mini-adults) and they should have fun. Then there's the fact that physical activity actually enhances academic performance. Behavior and focus deteriorate when they're sedentary. They sit in school for 7 hours a day so it's important they get up and moving.

My kids are good students, but no matter how hard my kids work in school (and they work super hard), they are unlikely to ever be the top academically and we aren't expecting them to go to the Ivies. Yet on the field, they stand out. Not enough for a college scholarship but enough that they receive praise from their friends and coaches. They never receive praise in school for anything no matter how hard they work. Every child should have a chance to feel good about themselves.
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Anonymous wrote:My kids are Middle School A students. Both in advanced math (IM 6th and Geometry 8th) and Languages. So I am not exactly what you are asking about. But still, I personally would love if they spent the 12hours + a week doing academic things instead of the sports they do -- or at least 50% and less competitive Sports. I truly would, travel sports suck all our time. But my kids would not spend the 12 hours doing anything productive. They would play on phones, watch tv or socialize. So I really do not look at it as an either or. They put enough time in school to do well enough but nothing extraordinary. But they enjoy the sports and want to do it. So I let them choose. It had nothing to do with thinking they will get athletic scholarships. And it irks me how every non sport parents think that the parents of kids that play sports are looking for athletic scholarships.

This is the point people like OP always seem to miss. Unless you are trying to balance both extraordinarily demanding academics and athletics (like a top TJ student who is also a nationally competitive equestrienne), you can still spend a significant amount of time playing sports and be a highly successful student, so long as you are motivated and academically capable.

Sports have had a huge positive impact on both my high-school aged kids, both of whom are A students at a demanding MoCo school. One does not find school to be interesting at all, and would rather spend the time when he is not at school or practice/games (he spends at least 20 hours on sports each week and travels overnight for games 10 weekends per year) texting or hanging with friends. But he wants to play in college and knows he needs to keep his grades high to have the options he hopes for. My other child will likely just be an intra-mural level player in college, but loves the friendships and stress relieve that come from practicing/playing 6 days a week. She would do well in school with or without sports, but wouldn't be nearly so healthy or happy. I think these things are true for many or most kids who play sports.
Anonymous
We have an advanced musician in the house and are struggling with the same balance. This is a kid who could probably make straight A's with more time, but who instead is spending hours each day practicing or rehearsing and has several performance obligations each month. Goal is a top conservatory. So we balance and accept that school is important but not the be all end all. Do what works for your family.
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My kids do better in school when they have are doing sports. I've seen grades for both my kids decline when they didn't have an after school sport. They both do better academically when they have a busier routine. They certainly wouldn't come home and study all afternoon if they didn't have sports practices. Sports are a great outlet after school for them and they come home happy, ready for dinner and then they do their homework.
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Anonymous wrote:Some people wrongly believe that the kids will get scholarships, when in fact only 2% of high school kids get sports scholarships to college.

Just like some parents think their kid will get into a highly selective college.
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They do it so their kids will be more popular. Plain and simple.
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