Computer science and engineering at George Mason

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:wonderful program that punches significantly above its weight, both in terms of quality of instruction and job placement. Not quite at the UVA or VaTech level, but i would definitely consider it a peer of UMD at this time - good luck!

? UMD is higher ranked than UVA or VA tech or GMU for CS.

What are you smoking? Or you just hate UMD?

I did not post that however I agree.

Here is why, jobs. The goal of college is to graduate and get a job. UMD does not do as good a job at this as George Mason does. A student at Mason also has better internship opportunities.

I hire a lot of graduates in this field. Mason kids are great, so are UMD students however if I had to tip the scale I would pick a George Mason over UMD. Mostly because of their better resume. Many have worked jobs prior to graduating from college they understand the work place. Lots of UMD students haven't worked at all except maybe an non paid internship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:wonderful program that punches significantly above its weight, both in terms of quality of instruction and job placement. Not quite at the UVA or VaTech level, but i would definitely consider it a peer of UMD at this time - good luck!

It's much easier to get internship during the year when you can easily drive to Tysons/Reston/Dulles than it is in Charlottesville or Blacksburg

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:wonderful program that punches significantly above its weight, both in terms of quality of instruction and job placement. Not quite at the UVA or VaTech level, but i would definitely consider it a peer of UMD at this time - good luck!

? UMD is higher ranked than UVA or VA tech or GMU for CS.

What are you smoking? Or you just hate UMD?

I did not post that however I agree.

Here is why, jobs. The goal of college is to graduate and get a job. UMD does not do as good a job at this as George Mason does. A student at Mason also has better internship opportunities.

I hire a lot of graduates in this field. Mason kids are great, so are UMD students however if I had to tip the scale I would pick a George Mason over UMD. Mostly because of their better resume. Many have worked jobs prior to graduating from college they understand the work place. Lots of UMD students haven't worked at all except maybe an non paid internship.

? this year is a bit different, but just a couple of years ago, CS majors from UMD all had jobs lined up before college. And UMD CS students do get paid internships.

If you go by jobs and pay, UMD > GMU.

https://www.payscale.com/college-roi/major/computer-science

I'm sure GMU is a great school. My other DC is looking at GMU for a different major, but, no ranking shows GMU > UMD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:wonderful program that punches significantly above its weight, both in terms of quality of instruction and job placement. Not quite at the UVA or VaTech level, but i would definitely consider it a peer of UMD at this time - good luck!

? UMD is higher ranked than UVA or VA tech or GMU for CS.

What are you smoking? Or you just hate UMD?

I did not post that however I agree.

Here is why, jobs. The goal of college is to graduate and get a job. UMD does not do as good a job at this as George Mason does. A student at Mason also has better internship opportunities.

I hire a lot of graduates in this field. Mason kids are great, so are UMD students however if I had to tip the scale I would pick a George Mason over UMD. Mostly because of their better resume. Many have worked jobs prior to graduating from college they understand the work place. Lots of UMD students haven't worked at all except maybe an non paid internship.

? this year is a bit different, but just a couple of years ago, CS majors from UMD all had jobs lined up before college. And UMD CS students do get paid internships.

If you go by jobs and pay, UMD > GMU.

https://www.payscale.com/college-roi/major/computer-science

I'm sure GMU is a great school. My other DC is looking at GMU for a different major, but, no ranking shows GMU > UMD.

sorry, I meant "before graduating".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think GMU is a really good school for those areas, as well as a bargain for in-state. The only problem with GMU is that kids in northern, VA do not want to go there b/c it is too close and b/c they have a high acceptance rate (so they do not consider it selective enough). So the school kind of has a stigma (fair/unfair) amongst high schools students in NOVA. However, the things that matter, like the program, cost and career placement rates, are excellent.

agreed, when we toured the campus my DD who is interested in CS said "there are no good looking/trendy looking guys ", it definitely did not seem like a party or fun college vibe

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think GMU is a really good school for those areas, as well as a bargain for in-state. The only problem with GMU is that kids in northern, VA do not want to go there b/c it is too close and b/c they have a high acceptance rate (so they do not consider it selective enough). So the school kind of has a stigma (fair/unfair) amongst high schools students in NOVA. However, the things that matter, like the program, cost and career placement rates, are excellent.

agreed, when we toured the campus my DD who is interested in CS said "there are no good looking/trendy looking guys ", it definitely did not seem like a party or fun college vibe

My kids is looking at GMU for grad school and is not concerned with the party scene or how good looking people are. Just wants the best education and internship/job opportunities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think GMU is a really good school for those areas, as well as a bargain for in-state. The only problem with GMU is that kids in northern, VA do not want to go there b/c it is too close and b/c they have a high acceptance rate (so they do not consider it selective enough). So the school kind of has a stigma (fair/unfair) amongst high schools students in NOVA. However, the things that matter, like the program, cost and career placement rates, are excellent.

+1. They had an admitted student day last Sunday. One of the presenters said that the median salary for all of GMU grads is 72K. We talked a few professors in the CS and CE departments. They didn't have numbers but said that a lot of kids get 95K+ salaries. Multiple offers. The CE prof. said that a few kids have job offers after their sophomore or junior year internships and switch to part-time. So, yeah. Getting internships and jobs won't be a problem. The dept. of engineering building is also fairly new and very nice. Of course, DC does not want to go there because 'no one goes to GMU' and would rather go to VCU or JMU. To be fair, both are great schools but CS/CE is far better at GMU than those schools.

[Anonymous]

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My kids is looking at GMU for grad school and is not concerned with the party scene or how good looking people are. Just wants the best education and internship/job opportunities.

In Engineering/CS, GMU is fine for a professional Masters degree, but a poor choice for a PhD.

The departmental/faculty politics at the PhD level means that GMU produces a lot more ABDs (meaning did not get the PhD, finished everything, but the dissertation was not accepted/ signed off) than PhDs. For a PhD, a higher ranked school will do a better job of getting students out the door with a PhD. I know it sounds a bit odd, but I have watched this for decades now. Caveat Emptor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think GMU is a really good school for those areas, as well as a bargain for in-state. The only problem with GMU is that kids in northern, VA do not want to go there b/c it is too close and b/c they have a high acceptance rate (so they do not consider it selective enough). So the school kind of has a stigma (fair/unfair) amongst high schools students in NOVA. However, the things that matter, like the program, cost and career placement rates, are excellent.

+1. They had an admitted student day last Sunday. One of the presenters said that the median salary for all of GMU grads is 72K. We talked a few professors in the CS and CE departments. They didn't have numbers but said that a lot of kids get 95K+ salaries. Multiple offers. The CE prof. said that a few kids have job offers after their sophomore or junior year internships and switch to part-time. So, yeah. Getting internships and jobs won't be a problem. The dept. of engineering building is also fairly new and very nice. Of course, DC does not want to go there because 'no one goes to GMU' and would rather go to VCU or JMU. To be fair, both are great schools but CS/CE is far better at GMU than those schools.

Does your school post the list of how many kids last year went to X, Y and Z university? Our FCPS high school does (Madison). In 2022, 39 graduates went on to GMU. In 2023, 41 graduates went on to GMU.

Soooooo.... maybe it seems like "no one" goes to GMU --- but actually, GMU is the 3rd MOST attended school from Madison after VT and NVCC (which switch positions from year to year).

There are clearly plenty of people from each FCPS high school attending GMU, they just don't crow about it as much as some of the other schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think GMU is a really good school for those areas, as well as a bargain for in-state. The only problem with GMU is that kids in northern, VA do not want to go there b/c it is too close and b/c they have a high acceptance rate (so they do not consider it selective enough). So the school kind of has a stigma (fair/unfair) amongst high schools students in NOVA. However, the things that matter, like the program, cost and career placement rates, are excellent.

+1. They had an admitted student day last Sunday. One of the presenters said that the median salary for all of GMU grads is 72K. We talked a few professors in the CS and CE departments. They didn't have numbers but said that a lot of kids get 95K+ salaries. Multiple offers. The CE prof. said that a few kids have job offers after their sophomore or junior year internships and switch to part-time. So, yeah. Getting internships and jobs won't be a problem. The dept. of engineering building is also fairly new and very nice. Of course, DC does not want to go there because 'no one goes to GMU' and would rather go to VCU or JMU. To be fair, both are great schools but CS/CE is far better at GMU than those schools.

Does your school post the list of how many kids last year went to X, Y and Z university? Our FCPS high school does (Madison). In 2022, 39 graduates went on to GMU. In 2023, 41 graduates went on to GMU.

Soooooo.... maybe it seems like "no one" goes to GMU --- but actually, GMU is the 3rd MOST attended school from Madison after VT and NVCC (which switch positions from year to year).

There are clearly plenty of people from each FCPS high school attending GMU, they just don't crow about it as much as some of the other schools.

Of course! But try logic with a 17 year old!

[Anonymous]

And it’s not a cool school as my DD said and no cool kids go there tbh it did seem boring af when we were there

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And it’s not a cool school as my DD said and no cool kids go there tbh it did seem boring af when we were there

If your DD is making decisions based upon what "cool kids" are doing .... she's not smart enough to go to college.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And it’s not a cool school as my DD said and no cool kids go there tbh it did seem boring af when we were there

If your DD is making decisions based upon what "cool kids" are doing .... she's not smart enough to go to college.

Well apparently I’m dumb too and most likely have a better career than you

The social aspect college is very important

You can catch up academically much easier than socially

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And it’s not a cool school as my DD said and no cool kids go there tbh it did seem boring af when we were there

If your DD is making decisions based upon what "cool kids" are doing .... she's not smart enough to go to college.

Well apparently I’m dumb too and most likely have a better career than you

The social aspect college is very important

You can catch up academically much easier than socially

We can agree on that!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And it’s not a cool school as my DD said and no cool kids go there tbh it did seem boring af when we were there

If your DD is making decisions based upon what "cool kids" are doing .... she's not smart enough to go to college.

Well apparently I’m dumb too and most likely have a better career than you

The social aspect college is very important

You can catch up academically much easier than socially

We can agree on that!

I feel bad for your kid if they have to put up with your parenting-hopefully the other parent has more self insight than you