Loyola versus other Baltimore privates

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would Send my son to Loyola in a heartbeat if our family was Catholic. The college matriculation data for the top students at any school In Baltimore is pretty similar, if your son is a top student, going to Loyola vs gilman isn't going to hurt his chances. but the community at Loyola is leaps and bounds better than any of the other boys schools. Most Of the other boys schools in balto are just a$$hole factories, but not Loyola. That school produces good humans.

Wtaf.

I assure you that every public and every private school in Baltimore is populated by humans, some of whom are good and some of whom are bad.

It says nothing good about you that you need this pointed out.

[Anonymous]

Gilman chooses the top students. Period. Loyola and Calvert Hall attract Catholic students as well as non-Catholics who are looking for a non-public, semi-affordable option. Catholic schools aim to educate Catholic students of all abilities. That is their mission. So that's why you see their college lists not looking as awesome as Gilman's.

I personally think Calvert Hall is more down to earth and diverse than Loyola but I'm biased. My son and grandfather went there. My son received an excellent education there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would Send my son to Loyola in a heartbeat if our family was Catholic. The college matriculation data for the top students at any school In Baltimore is pretty similar, if your son is a top student, going to Loyola vs gilman isn't going to hurt his chances. but the community at Loyola is leaps and bounds better than any of the other boys schools. Most Of the other boys schools in balto are just a$$hole factories, but not Loyola. That school produces good humans.

Wtaf.

I assure you that every public and every private school in Baltimore is populated by humans, some of whom are good and some of whom are bad.

It says nothing good about you that you need this pointed out.

Loyola recently had to expel and discipline some boys for truly atrocious behavior at a charity event. It definitely has its share of bad apples.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would Send my son to Loyola in a heartbeat if our family was Catholic. The college matriculation data for the top students at any school In Baltimore is pretty similar, if your son is a top student, going to Loyola vs gilman isn't going to hurt his chances. but the community at Loyola is leaps and bounds better than any of the other boys schools. Most Of the other boys schools in balto are just a$$hole factories, but not Loyola. That school produces good humans.

Wtaf.

I assure you that every public and every private school in Baltimore is populated by humans, some of whom are good and some of whom are bad.

It says nothing good about you that you need this pointed out.

Loyola recently had to expel and discipline some boys for truly atrocious behavior at a charity event. It definitely has its share of bad apples.

Meh, I stand by what I said about the a$$hole factories. I'm a transplant to Baltimore and have studied both the current student populations and the adults who graduated from these boys schools who still live in the area since we moved here in the early 2000s.
Gilman produces jerks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would Send my son to Loyola in a heartbeat if our family was Catholic. The college matriculation data for the top students at any school In Baltimore is pretty similar, if your son is a top student, going to Loyola vs gilman isn't going to hurt his chances. but the community at Loyola is leaps and bounds better than any of the other boys schools. Most Of the other boys schools in balto are just a$$hole factories, but not Loyola. That school produces good humans.

Wtaf.

I assure you that every public and every private school in Baltimore is populated by humans, some of whom are good and some of whom are bad.

It says nothing good about you that you need this pointed out.

Loyola recently had to expel and discipline some boys for truly atrocious behavior at a charity event. It definitely has its share of bad apples.

Meh, I stand by what I said about the a$$hole factories. I'm a transplant to Baltimore and have studied both the current student populations and the adults who graduated from these boys schools who still live in the area since we moved here in the early 2000s.
Gilman produces jerks.

I’ve lived in Baltimore for 25 years. I’ve known both adults and children who attended every school in the area. They are all human beings. No school produces “jerks” vs “good humans”, as if they were useful or defective widgets rolling off an assembly line.

There is something deeply wrong with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would Send my son to Loyola in a heartbeat if our family was Catholic. The college matriculation data for the top students at any school In Baltimore is pretty similar, if your son is a top student, going to Loyola vs gilman isn't going to hurt his chances. but the community at Loyola is leaps and bounds better than any of the other boys schools. Most Of the other boys schools in balto are just a$$hole factories, but not Loyola. That school produces good humans.

Wtaf.

I assure you that every public and every private school in Baltimore is populated by humans, some of whom are good and some of whom are bad.

It says nothing good about you that you need this pointed out.

Loyola recently had to expel and discipline some boys for truly atrocious behavior at a charity event. It definitely has its share of bad apples.

Meh, I stand by what I said about the a$$hole factories. I'm a transplant to Baltimore and have studied both the current student populations and the adults who graduated from these boys schools who still live in the area since we moved here in the early 2000s.
Gilman produces jerks.

I’ve lived in Baltimore for 25 years. I’ve known both adults and children who attended every school in the area. They are all human beings. No school produces “jerks” vs “good humans”, as if they were useful or defective widgets rolling off an assembly line.

There is something deeply wrong with you.

I agree with this. Something weird about an adult making broad sweeping generalizations about children and a$$hold factories. This person has issues.

[Anonymous]

50 Years ago upper crust Catholic families sent their sons to Loyola; Upper Crust WASPs to Gilman. Gilman's a lot more diverse now; Loyola is still very Catholic. Its great school; one of my best friends is graduate, got accepted into an Ivy and handful of other name brands. Ended up at Duke.

[Anonymous]

My son is a senior at Loyola - it’s been an anmazing experience for him. As you’ve stated, solid academics and a beautiful campus. It also has an excellent cyber program, strong athletics; it’s over 170 years old so it also has lots of traditions including the Turkey Bowl. We are Catholic, though he has plenty of friends there who are not. He has received lots of support and encouragement from friends, teachers, and staff during his four years. Colleges attended by classmates who have graduated or have been accepted to this year represent a wide spectrum including Duke, Northwestern, Amherst, Yale, Penn, Hopkins, UNC, Wake, Naval Academy, Maryland, Loyola U., Towson, UMBC, Penn State, and the SEC schools. Your son will do well wherever he goes and the other schools mentioned on this string are spectacular options too. Good luck!

[Anonymous]

Greyhound! Just kidding. They’re both great schools. You can also send a kid to public school and have the child get into an Ivy for free. Still, I would choose Gilman or Loyola over public for the values, especially regarding service.

Beyond that, I would think about who I would want the kids’ childhood experiences, formative and possibly lifelong friends to be. The schools have different offerings and different kinds of diversity

[Anonymous]

Loyola’s facilities are beautiful - it’s a wealthy school. The cyber program is very strong. They do very well in hacking competitions etc. I do think a non-Christian kid might be uncomfortable. My DS went to Calvert Hall, which is considerably more diverse, likely due to the lower price tag and the larger merit scholarships.
Have you taken a tour?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just commenting that Loyola's website says 10:1 student to faculty ratio. Who knows what that means in real life.

College list 2022-23 isn't bad: https://loyolablakefield.myschoolapp.com/ftpimages/869/download/download_2082878.pdf

I glanced at BL (2023 matriculation available) and Gilman (2019-2014) and while I can see Gilman looks stronger, there's plenty of overlap with Loyola matriculations as well as plenty of Gilman grads going to weaker schools. And Loyola does have Ivy-bound students and I know enough that no school is going to turn a B student into Harvard material and Gilman's advantage has to do with having more high performing kids from high performing families in the first place. And I know Baltimore well enough to know that plenty of Gilman grads end up living in Baltimore

Leaving aside the Jesuit/secular differences, can a compelling case be made that the teaching at Gilman is stronger? Is Loyola really that much more provincial?

First of, let me say, I think Loyola is a terrific option, especially given it’s cost. Its alumni are extremely loyal which speaks well of their experience. 75 percent of its students receive aid, which is tremendous. Gilman provides aid to only around 25 percent of students, which is typical of a Baltimore independent school.

think you are looking at the college matriculations with rose colored glasses. Here’s some of the Loyola matriculations that you won’t find at Gilman:

Belmont Abbey
Baltimore County community college
East Tennessee
Flagler
Hartford Community College
Penn State Harrisburg
Nazareth
Regis
Rider, etc. . .
I only look at where kids are attending for both schools. In addition, a little more than three percent of the class at Loyola doesn’t attend college after graduation. Not sure what schools from the Gilman list are “weaker” than this. Loyola’s list combines 2022 and 2023 acceptances. If you look by individual year (I.e. class insta accounts),you’ll see that Gilman places more kids at the top schools each year despite having a significantly smaller class, especially when looking beyond sports recruits.

This year, Gilman had 8 national merit semi finalists, Loyola had none. Park had 2, Mcdonogh 4, Bryn Mawr 2.

Gilman offers coed classes in upper school, Loyola does not. Loyola requires religion classes, Gilman does not. Gilman has a very strong classics program, offering five years of Latin and four of Greek. Loyola doesn’t appear to offer either. Generally the Loyola course catalog fits on one chart in the link you attached, Gilman offers many more options across subjects.

My friend's son takes Latin in the
Middle
school at Loyola.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would Send my son to Loyola in a heartbeat if our family was Catholic. The college matriculation data for the top students at any school In Baltimore is pretty similar, if your son is a top student, going to Loyola vs gilman isn't going to hurt his chances. but the community at Loyola is leaps and bounds better than any of the other boys schools. Most Of the other boys schools in balto are just a$$hole factories, but not Loyola. That school produces good humans.

Wtaf.

I assure you that every public and every private school in Baltimore is populated by humans, some of whom are good and some of whom are bad.

It says nothing good about you that you need this pointed out.

Loyola recently had to expel and discipline some boys for truly atrocious behavior at a charity event. It definitely has its share of bad apples.

Meh, I stand by what I said about the a$$hole factories. I'm a transplant to Baltimore and have studied both the current student populations and the adults who graduated from these boys schools who still live in the area since we moved here in the early 2000s.
Gilman produces jerks.

I would heavily disagree....

Out of all of the schools reputations, Gilman students are the most respected. St. Pauls......though...go grab the rehab application.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would Send my son to Loyola in a heartbeat if our family was Catholic. The college matriculation data for the top students at any school In Baltimore is pretty similar, if your son is a top student, going to Loyola vs gilman isn't going to hurt his chances. but the community at Loyola is leaps and bounds better than any of the other boys schools. Most Of the other boys schools in balto are just a$$hole factories, but not Loyola. That school produces good humans.

Wtaf.

I assure you that every public and every private school in Baltimore is populated by humans, some of whom are good and some of whom are bad.

It says nothing good about you that you need this pointed out.

Loyola recently had to expel and discipline some boys for truly atrocious behavior at a charity event. It definitely has its share of bad apples.

Meh, I stand by what I said about the a$$hole factories. I'm a transplant to Baltimore and have studied both the current student populations and the adults who graduated from these boys schools who still live in the area since we moved here in the early 2000s.
Gilman produces jerks.

I would heavily disagree....

Out of all of the schools reputations, Gilman students are the most respected. St. Pauls......though...go grab the rehab application.

Sounds like a Gilman alum throwing a peer school under the bus.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, no need to make random smears against St. Paul's School for Boys. All of these schools, as well as the public schools, have kids with drug problems. Certainly no one school has a lock on that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would Send my son to Loyola in a heartbeat if our family was Catholic. The college matriculation data for the top students at any school In Baltimore is pretty similar, if your son is a top student, going to Loyola vs gilman isn't going to hurt his chances. but the community at Loyola is leaps and bounds better than any of the other boys schools. Most Of the other boys schools in balto are just a$$hole factories, but not Loyola. That school produces good humans.

Wtaf.

I assure you that every public and every private school in Baltimore is populated by humans, some of whom are good and some of whom are bad.

It says nothing good about you that you need this pointed out.

Loyola recently had to expel and discipline some boys for truly atrocious behavior at a charity event. It definitely has its share of bad apples.

Meh, I stand by what I said about the a$$hole factories. I'm a transplant to Baltimore and have studied both the current student populations and the adults who graduated from these boys schools who still live in the area since we moved here in the early 2000s.
Gilman produces jerks.

I would heavily disagree....

Out of all of the schools reputations, Gilman students are the most respected. St. Pauls......though...go grab the rehab application.

What the heck? St Paul’s has no more or less drugs than anywhere else. What a weird comment.
-Gilman family