Is there a new entrance test structure for TJ this year (for 2023 students)

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Any update about new entrance test structure for TJ admission?


FCPS will decide after consulting with NAACP.


Given the under-representation of the AA demographic, it's clear their current process discriminates, so consulting on how to improve this with the NAACP seems like a great idea.


can't tell if this is a troll or genuine, this is joke this is exactly what they did last time and we got the crappy results we all see here aka less quality folks from advanced AAP centers and more random kids from other schools (thanks geogrpaphic quota) with lower GPAs and taking Algebra I in 8th. Folks taking Algebra 1 in 8th aren't advanced by any objective measure.

The most hilarious part is after all this the percentage of African Americans attending barely budged.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any update about new entrance test structure for TJ admission?


FCPS will decide after consulting with NAACP.


Given the under-representation of the AA demographic, it's clear their current process discriminates, so consulting on how to improve this with the NAACP seems like a great idea.


can't tell if this is a troll or genuine, this is joke this is exactly what they did last time and we got the crappy results we all see here aka less quality folks from advanced AAP centers and more random kids from other schools (thanks geogrpaphic quota) with lower GPAs and taking Algebra I in 8th. Folks taking Algebra 1 in 8th aren't advanced by any objective measure.

The most hilarious part is after all this the percentage of African Americans attending barely budged.


It's easy to tell which groups are being favored by looking at the ratio of %admit/%population for each demographic. This was more or less what the judge did to dismiss the case.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any update about new entrance test structure for TJ admission?


FCPS will decide after consulting with NAACP.


Given the under-representation of the AA demographic, it's clear their current process discriminates, so consulting on how to improve this with the NAACP seems like a great idea.


can't tell if this is a troll or genuine, this is joke this is exactly what they did last time and we got the crappy results we all see here aka less quality folks from advanced AAP centers and more random kids from other schools (thanks geogrpaphic quota) with lower GPAs and taking Algebra I in 8th. Folks taking Algebra 1 in 8th aren't advanced by any objective measure.

The most hilarious part is after all this the percentage of African Americans attending barely budged.


Weird I read it doubled.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any update about new entrance test structure for TJ admission?


FCPS will decide after consulting with NAACP.


Given the under-representation of the AA demographic, it's clear their current process discriminates, so consulting on how to improve this with the NAACP seems like a great idea.


can't tell if this is a troll or genuine, this is joke this is exactly what they did last time and we got the crappy results we all see here aka less quality folks from advanced AAP centers and more random kids from other schools (thanks geogrpaphic quota) with lower GPAs and taking Algebra I in 8th. Folks taking Algebra 1 in 8th aren't advanced by any objective measure.

The most hilarious part is after all this the percentage of African Americans attending barely budged.


1) The Class of 2025's incoming average GPA was higher than the Class of 2024's

2) Percentage of Black students increased seven-fold year over year

Anything else you'd like to be wrong about?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any update about new entrance test structure for TJ admission?


FCPS will decide after consulting with NAACP.


Given the under-representation of the AA demographic, it's clear their current process discriminates, so consulting on how to improve this with the NAACP seems like a great idea.


can't tell if this is a troll or genuine, this is joke this is exactly what they did last time and we got the crappy results we all see here aka less quality folks from advanced AAP centers and more random kids from other schools (thanks geogrpaphic quota) with lower GPAs and taking Algebra I in 8th. Folks taking Algebra 1 in 8th aren't advanced by any objective measure.

The most hilarious part is after all this the percentage of African Americans attending barely budged.


1) The Class of 2025's incoming average GPA was higher than the Class of 2024's

2) Percentage of Black students increased seven-fold year over year


Anything else you'd like to be wrong about?


Sounds like the new admission process worked incredibly well since it resulted in a strong and more diverse cohort. Bravo FCPS!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any update about new entrance test structure for TJ admission?


FCPS will decide after consulting with NAACP.


Given the under-representation of the AA demographic, it's clear their current process discriminates, so consulting on how to improve this with the NAACP seems like a great idea.


can't tell if this is a troll or genuine, this is joke this is exactly what they did last time and we got the crappy results we all see here aka less quality folks from advanced AAP centers and more random kids from other schools (thanks geogrpaphic quota) with lower GPAs and taking Algebra I in 8th. Folks taking Algebra 1 in 8th aren't advanced by any objective measure.

The most hilarious part is after all this the percentage of African Americans attending barely budged.


1) The Class of 2025's incoming average GPA was higher than the Class of 2024's

2) Percentage of Black students increased seven-fold year over year

Anything else you'd like to be wrong about?


Hey woke idiot, first reading comprehension fail

At 3.9, the average GPA for applicants is higher this year than it has been in the past five years. The average GPA for students offered admission remains extremely high at more than 3.95.

Also I'm talking 2026 please keep up

Black Students 5% were offered admission





Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any update about new entrance test structure for TJ admission?


I don't think they will introduce tests again since many colleges are removing that requirement too. I just hope they add an additional criteria about STEM extra curricular activities and give them weightage for it which is not in the current process and will be important since TJ is a STEM school


I doubt they will do this as the availability of STEM extracurriculars at ES/MS are correlated with SES - the lower performing schools don't always offer the same activities that require lots of parental support/$ and STEM programs outside schools can be very expensive, require transportation, etc. And I am a TJ parent so I fully understand that a passion for STEM is critical to enjoying TJ, I just don't think that is the direction admissions will go.


Since they have a per school quota, they can use STEM extracurriculars when picking the top kids at each school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any update about new entrance test structure for TJ admission?


FCPS will decide after consulting with NAACP.


Given the under-representation of the AA demographic, it's clear their current process discriminates, so consulting on how to improve this with the NAACP seems like a great idea.


can't tell if this is a troll or genuine, this is joke this is exactly what they did last time and we got the crappy results we all see here aka less quality folks from advanced AAP centers and more random kids from other schools (thanks geogrpaphic quota) with lower GPAs and taking Algebra I in 8th. Folks taking Algebra 1 in 8th aren't advanced by any objective measure.

The most hilarious part is after all this the percentage of African Americans attending barely budged.


1) The Class of 2025's incoming average GPA was higher than the Class of 2024's

2) Percentage of Black students increased seven-fold year over year


Anything else you'd like to be wrong about?


*FACTS*
Anonymous
Moving is the best possible prep you can give your child.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any update about new entrance test structure for TJ admission?


I don't think they will introduce tests again since many colleges are removing that requirement too. I just hope they add an additional criteria about STEM extra curricular activities and give them weightage for it which is not in the current process and will be important since TJ is a STEM school


I doubt they will do this as the availability of STEM extracurriculars at ES/MS are correlated with SES - the lower performing schools don't always offer the same activities that require lots of parental support/$ and STEM programs outside schools can be very expensive, require transportation, etc. And I am a TJ parent so I fully understand that a passion for STEM is critical to enjoying TJ, I just don't think that is the direction admissions will go.


Since they have a per school quota, they can use STEM extracurriculars when picking the top kids at each school.


Eh, STEM extracurriculars don’t always tell you much. Some kids only participate because their parents want them to, some don’t participate because of lack of money or time.

My TJ kid loved math and science but didn’t do a lot of STEM extracurriculars in middle school because he was heavily involved in a sport that required about 15 or so hours each week. He just didn’t have time for a laundry list of activities. He went on to a top STEM college and graduated with a computer science degree, so his lack of extracurriculars certainly did not indicate any lack of interest.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any update about new entrance test structure for TJ admission?


I don't think they will introduce tests again since many colleges are removing that requirement too. I just hope they add an additional criteria about STEM extra curricular activities and give them weightage for it which is not in the current process and will be important since TJ is a STEM school


I doubt they will do this as the availability of STEM extracurriculars at ES/MS are correlated with SES - the lower performing schools don't always offer the same activities that require lots of parental support/$ and STEM programs outside schools can be very expensive, require transportation, etc. And I am a TJ parent so I fully understand that a passion for STEM is critical to enjoying TJ, I just don't think that is the direction admissions will go.


Since they have a per school quota, they can use STEM extracurriculars when picking the top kids at each school.


Teacher recommendations would be a better indicator. Frequently teachers have insight into the students' impacts in said STEM activities.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The school board does not want to touch TJ admissions again.

If you want your child to attend TJ, your best bet is to rent an apartment in one of the MS where very few kids apply and have them attend for 8th grade.


Wrong - they're trying to trick you. The wealthy schools have the highest admit rate. More kids are from Longfellow or Cooper than one of the poor schools.


It is very hard to get in from these top feeders - Longfellow, Cooper, Carson, Rocky Run because it is heavily competitive. You literally need GPA 4 to get in from those schools. Kids from other schools have gotten in even with B grades. It is true these top feeders get more than 1.5% and instead around 5% but still not every kid with GPA 4 there gets into TJ. Other schools have to thank TJ for the genius process change where they are not giving admission to really smart kids from top feeders and instead giving to average kids in other schools who happen to be in top 1.5%. Really sucks.


True.

If you want to improve your odds, move.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any update about new entrance test structure for TJ admission?


I don't think they will introduce tests again since many colleges are removing that requirement too. I just hope they add an additional criteria about STEM extra curricular activities and give them weightage for it which is not in the current process and will be important since TJ is a STEM school


I doubt they will do this as the availability of STEM extracurriculars at ES/MS are correlated with SES - the lower performing schools don't always offer the same activities that require lots of parental support/$ and STEM programs outside schools can be very expensive, require transportation, etc. And I am a TJ parent so I fully understand that a passion for STEM is critical to enjoying TJ, I just don't think that is the direction admissions will go.


Since they have a per school quota, they can use STEM extracurriculars when picking the top kids at each school.


Eh, STEM extracurriculars don’t always tell you much. Some kids only participate because their parents want them to, some don’t participate because of lack of money or time.

My TJ kid loved math and science but didn’t do a lot of STEM extracurriculars in middle school because he was heavily involved in a sport that required about 15 or so hours each week. He just didn’t have time for a laundry list of activities. He went on to a top STEM college and graduated with a computer science degree, so his lack of extracurriculars certainly did not indicate any lack of interest.


Agree here..extracurriculars is just extra. That's why a race-blind test was the best option. Now that's gone too. Best of luck all...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any update about new entrance test structure for TJ admission?


I don't think they will introduce tests again since many colleges are removing that requirement too. I just hope they add an additional criteria about STEM extra curricular activities and give them weightage for it which is not in the current process and will be important since TJ is a STEM school


I doubt they will do this as the availability of STEM extracurriculars at ES/MS are correlated with SES - the lower performing schools don't always offer the same activities that require lots of parental support/$ and STEM programs outside schools can be very expensive, require transportation, etc. And I am a TJ parent so I fully understand that a passion for STEM is critical to enjoying TJ, I just don't think that is the direction admissions will go.


Since they have a per school quota, they can use STEM extracurriculars when picking the top kids at each school.


Eh, STEM extracurriculars don’t always tell you much. Some kids only participate because their parents want them to, some don’t participate because of lack of money or time.

My TJ kid loved math and science but didn’t do a lot of STEM extracurriculars in middle school because he was heavily involved in a sport that required about 15 or so hours each week. He just didn’t have time for a laundry list of activities. He went on to a top STEM college and graduated with a computer science degree, so his lack of extracurriculars certainly did not indicate any lack of interest.


Agree here..extracurriculars is just extra. That's why a race-blind test was the best option. Now that's gone too. Best of luck all...


It was the best option until a nine-figure industry propped up in the Northern Virginia area that was narrowly tailored not to general academic enrichment, but specifically to separating parents from their hard-earned money with an eye toward getting their kid into a school where they may or may not belong.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any update about new entrance test structure for TJ admission?


I don't think they will introduce tests again since many colleges are removing that requirement too. I just hope they add an additional criteria about STEM extra curricular activities and give them weightage for it which is not in the current process and will be important since TJ is a STEM school



This type of statement is such a joke
Any comment about those forcing their kids (who have not gone there otherwise, at least from historical data) to TJ
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